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Thanks for the footage and commentary. Always enjoy watching local races, and it's good to see some old friends out on the course too.

I was thinking of going and doing a post Labor Day road race, here in the Midwest crits and road races are pretty much done Labor Day weekend.... But at this point I'm in total CX mode and the road race is a 3.5 hour drive 🙄.... Yeah I'm going to do the local cyclocross races 😎.

The lightest I could get my size 52cm Madone SLR Disc (albeit with 60mm wheels Bora WTO Ultra wheels) was 7.99 kg (17.6 lbs) That's with SRAM Red AXS and Look Keo Blade Carbon Ti pedals. Some bikes are just big-boned I guess, lol

I have the Scott foil RC30. Got it back in January 2023. Maybe 1.5K miles on the road and only like 8 crits. Only 1 ride a week outside, other rides are on a trainer with an old bike. I can comfortably stay in an aero position for a long time on my foil... like 30 minutes. I could only hold an aero position for like 3 minutes on my Tarmac SL6 or 2023 BMC roadmachine. I think the Foil's higher stack helps with comfortably holding an aero position ( just my theory). I think being able to comfortably hold an aero position for an extended period of time is the best attribute of this bike and is the biggest watts saving (way bigger impact than the watts saved from the frame). Also my aero position on the Foil gives a crappy draft to my opponent behind me ... which is doubly beneficial. This bike feels more vertically stiff than my other bikes (It does a bad job of smoothing out the rough pavement... maybe I should try a 30mm rear tire. I also have carbon spoke wheels, so maybe that contributes to the harsher ride. My bike rear thru axle has no play like yours, but my bike has fewer miles (hopefully not foreshadowing...). I like the stock saddle. 3 part seat post is a dumb design. I'm afraid a one piece might make the bike an even rougher ride. My Tarmac SL6 is a much better handling bike in my opinion, more confidence inspiring in the corners than the Foil. Tarmac has quicker turn in and is more comfortable on the bumps. Tarmac handling (rapid turn in and ability to quickly change lines mid corner) is tangibly better than my Foil. Foil is more stable and planted for going in a straight line. I switched my Foil from 28mm GP5000 TT tires to 29mm Enve SES RaceDay (grippy and more compliant tires) and did some dedicated handling drills and that helped my Foil's handling. Tarmac SL6 is just so confidence inspiring for corners that I want to push my limits and I felt safe doing so (I was pedal stricking around turns within the first 2 minutes of test riding my buddies tarmac SL6, and even with a pedal strike the bike was like ... ok, no big deal... which is why I bought a used Tarmac SL6 2 years ago). I didn't get that feeling of cornering confidence from my Foil, I had to work my back to where I was comfortable attacking corners for crits. $4200 was a steal. Well done! Was $4200 after you subtracted out the $900 chase new credit card?). I thought I did well getting my RC30 for $3700. Thanks for the video.

Thats why I rock Michelin Power Cup 28 clinchers. Super fast, more supple then conti, better feeling on the road and waaaay lighter with tpu tubes. We are talking here at over 100g savings for a set of wheels. And yeah they are fast in tanwall. And tanwalls looks way better :)

Yeah but on bigger bike you wouldn't have to run a ton of spacers. And that's not only better for the looks but also front stiffness

I’ve also got a Scott Foil and I absolutely love it. I’m a big guy (6’6 and 230lbs), so I’m super conscious of creaking. I just put A LOT of carbon paste on the seat post and I haven’t heard a thing since. Hope it helps!

Great review. I’m always fascinated when a fellow 5’11/6’er is on a smaller bike.

Noises drive me crazy. If there's any noise I can't figure out, it's going straight to the shop.

Love these longform videos, and yupp shoutout GC Performance!

Thank you so much for such a detailed review.

Great vid. I enjoy hearing amateur racer's POV on their bikes and racing.

Great video for someone returning from the dead :D

I'm curious how you arrived at that saddle fore/aft setting?

Hylix has a one piece seatpost for the Foil. 150g/<$200 You got a great deal!

Wow, good save. Any idea what happened?

Looks like a race then a group ride

I cant even get my heart rate up to 180 with feeling like im going to pass out. I guess i should stick with solo riding

Any solution for my one cleat nut being loose all of a sudden and its making a cleaking sound when pedalling hard. Ty

Your cornering is very impressive. It seems like you're closing a gap or taking wheels on every turn.

Love tap 😂😂

You're all under arrest....it is clearly marked 25 mph speed limit! Awesome video, crazy watts over and over

Seeing Blake jump on the final time up the hill was one of those "game over" moments. Front row seat to a major watt bomb. Excellent work on 10th. Such a hard race.

I heard Eamon broke a pedal in the final sprint? 😅

Great footage of the race! Raced Master 50+ and looks and feels like a whole different race. Strong finish!

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watching this video makes this course look fing crazy especially doing as a 4/5 when I did it haha

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeetttttttttttttttttttttt let's go TERUN ELLLLLLLLLLLLLLITE!

Crash at 11:30 looked nasty 😢

tan wall tubeless still have thick sidewall for proper seal. on rolling resistant test the tan wall specialized turbo cotton tube type tyre with latex inner tube is faster than everything.

excellent useless knowledge It is not bike/tires fault that you are slow

Circa year 2000, Jobst Brant (author of The Bicycle Wheel) wrote many lengthy rants on colored tires - his position was that no one should ever buy a colored tire. His reasoning was that rubber is black. Adding colorants to something black just makes it look...black. Fancy colored rubber had to be chemically modified using plasticizers, which lightened the color but also altered the traction and rolling resistance of the resulting tire. His argument referred to the tread of the tire, not the sidewalls, so I'm not sure whether it applies here. Nonetheless, to this day, I'll only buy tires in black. In the absence of contradicting data, I figure it's better to be safe than sorry.

The sidewall colors aren't made for the looks. They're different compounds and those react differently to different surfaces. Especially the ability of damping micro impacts from the road surface vary greatly. Meaning under real conditions tires, that test slower in lab conditions, may outperform tires that perform better in the lab.

After destroying 3 Vitoria Corsa Pro tires in about 8 months from tears and a multitude of punctures in each tire, I've dumped using these and switched to GP 5000 AS TR. They have better puncture resistance, better handling in both wet and dry conditions but at the cost of about 2 watts/tire. I'll buy performance, longevity and reliability for 2 watts, Pat.

Ugliness of the Tan walls slows 🐌 you down

Id suggest people look at the continental contact urban. Very underrated tire for winter training. Great wet grip, rolls pretty damn fast, puncture protection is decent and comes in a variety of sizes. I'd got 32c for road and 42c + for comfort tourer. Imo one of the best bang for buck tires out there. Prove me wrong!

Lulz... $100 for a tire... how have we come here...

GP5000 STR are lighter for a reason, so unless you are racing I think its a bad purchase. The weight loss is taken from sidewall and general puncture protection

What about transparent vs black side wall?

Speed is over-rated.

There are so many gp5000 tyres😂😂😂. Very confusing.

Been riding GP5000’s with latex tubes for years. The fastest combo there is. The trick is lots of powder on the tube and the inside of the tire. This allows the tube to move freely inside the tire and reduces friction. Kinda the same principle as tubeless. A very snappy and supple ride compared to butyl tubes. Compared to other riders in my group I have way less tire related issues including flats. And that includes the guys running tubeless.

i do not buy tires, i get tires, but you don't look in the teeth of a gifted horse

no because i am purposely buying them. :P

I'm not sure where you got your information. Every tire company tests their own tires and the do comparative testing to other products on the market. Some publish the results and some do not. Then there are individuals who create their own testing. So there are and will be different tests on tires. And relying on one printed test would be selling yourself short. Obviously most riders cant afford to try many tires to find a conclusion to there personal preference. I suggest talking to people who ride like you and weigh similar to you and ride where you ride. Then read and search out many test reviews. Learn about tire construction. Learn why different materials have been used for so many years. Just educate your self before going on You Tube and announcing that one tire may be better than another.

If your vocabulary includes the words:"I was just cruising around on the BicycleRollingResistance" You know you are in deep with the cycling lifestyle. Is there even a way back at this point ? xD haha been there myself m8.

I'd rather hope that cyclists actually buy tyres for their needs. If you are going on a 100 mile ride, would you choose a fast tyre or a tyre that isn't going to cause punctures but may be heavier and slightly slower ? I'd go for puncture resistance on that ride.

Actually the fastest option tested by brr is the non tubless Conti GP5000 combined with latex tubes. The testing data in the table is tested with butyl tubes in case of a non tubeless tire. There is a specific article about different type of tubes and several other on the gp5000 in different sizes. So if you don't want to run tubeless for some reason, dont get the STR and safe some money.

Are you sure you can make any judgement based on these data alone? We all ride on different bikes, with different wheels, made of different materials, with different spokes, on different roads with different surfaces, we set different tire pressures, based on SILCA pro calculator for example, we use different tire sizes and inner tubes, we ride at different speeds, different weather conditions and temperatures.. the variables go on and on. Meanwhile we're here looking at like 1 datum for each at a nondescript "ultra high pressure" and smooth roller tests that show barely a difference. We need to campaign for higher standards in this kind of testing. There aren't even any error bars! My god man how can we trust any of this without open, reproducible testing and some frieking error bars and measure of uncertainty. "These tires are 1.2W faster than those". "What's your uncertainty?" "+/- 5W.... On each measurement." "le sigh"

You should try the Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport, on the bike at least the tube type version feels as it is a fraction faster than the 5000 (both ridden with Vredestein latex inner tubes).