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@@fooshman5163 was my comment in the video I can’t see anything without glasses. To be fair I’ve worn it on and off for over a week now and I’ve got used to it and can tell the time easily. Issue Merkur have is the movement and not their design really. They are bound by the confines of the movement size and discs. At least sea gull is making a movement with this feature

It’s a sub £100 watch, you can’t buy much for that money especially if you want a mechanical movement.

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​@mywatchreviews Price isn't everything even if you a working to a small budget. For c.£150, for example, you can buy a Baltany with an excellent finish, sapphire crystal, great lume, screwdown crown, and most importantly a japanese movement that a watch repairer will be prepared to service.

@@michaelbedford8017 hmm. I do lots of Baltany and yes they are good £150 also get you a San Martin . £150 is still 50% more than this Seizenn. I am an amateur watchmaker of 7 year plus. My main channel shows many watches I work on but I have serviced on and off camera 100s of watches of all brands. Why people get hung up on Japanese movements is beyond me. Miyota is proper budget and are not that impressive inside and only on a par really with this Sea Gull. Seiko are bullet proof and don’t die but extremely limiting on what they offer. NH35,38 and 34 that’s about it. No hand wind no sub seconds position. Any microbrand has only a few manufacturers to use for their designs because of these limitations. Look at the last Baltany I reviewed. Miyota calendar, about the most useless combination. Month day date . It gives the appearance of a complication / chronograph but it’s not. A month complication is not needed and besides if you don’t wear it often then your forever setting it. This seizenn is not perfect either but for £85 it’s feel, finish and fit is better than a lot of other stuff I’ve reviewed , repaired or worked on.

Fair enough. As much as we all like lume I never need it as I am never in a dark place that requires it.

To make the hour disc numbers bigger would require a much bigger disc so you can still evenly space the 12 numbers. This would then make the case bigger and all that goes with it. I understand that visibility at night is an issue but I don’t see it as a watch for that. It’s not an every day watch or your only watch. If it was it’s not practical enough for its purpose. A conventional 3 hander would always be the only choice.

Wow. I can’t say I’ve ever broken a glass other than fitting them which occasionally happens. Sapphire it should be but it’s working to a budget clearly.

Thing is everyone is hung up on lume. Every single jump hour I own or have seen and I have about 15 of them. Non have lume. Non are easy to read at a glance and thats the design of them. Not all watches tell the time easily or glow in the dark all night long . For that purpose 3 hander are the only viable choice other than digital . This has to be considered as a novelty watch, something a bit different rather than an every day do it all. Sea gull to my knowledge are the only ones making this movement that you can use for a jump hour. VARIO watches made one not too dissimilar a few years back. The hour disc would have to be bigger to accommodate bigger numbers which would mean a bigger case and dial and then the question would be does the movement actually have enough torque to then turn it . Granted where the minute passes the hour it could be more visible which might be a bit of an oversight but trust me I have many watches that are much harder to read than this and that’s what I actually like.

@@mywatchreviews I alluded to the fact that my daily wear is a Grand Seiko, a brand on which lume is seldom used and stated that 'better still' I would drop the lume altogether and skeletonise the minute hand in order not to obscure the jumping of the hour. The simplest solution would be to lume the hour as is, small as it might be, ...the best solution would be to drop the lume altogether and skeletonise the minute hand so that we could better enjoy the jumping of the hour in general. A win/win, cutting cost, whilst simultaneously stepping up the watch's jump hour game. It's a rather poor show that the minute hand obscures the whole point of this watch, ...its jumping hour. I wouldn't comment if I didn't actually appreciate the general design of this watch. I have a 34mm Hamilton 1973 pilot's watch of a similar case design that I am particularly fond of.

@@MrWansty any watch that requires you to look at it more carefully is really not a bad idea if you are really into watches like I am. Means you have more time to just stare at them 😂 Trust me when I say that this is one of the most legible jump hours I own and I have many!

@@mywatchreviews i get what you,re saying mike but i,m at an age were i have to spend 5 minutes finding my glasses just to see what the time was 5 minutes ago

@@MrWansty haha, find your glasses? I have to wear them at all times now !

Yes I’ve seen a few Sea Gull using that setup . There are even some Swiss stuff that has.

Well yes. You cant compare this with the Lip at all. Lip is x3 the price and has a purpose made 3 disc movement. I just like that there is still this feature being produced.

@@mywatchreviews well, i got my hoga 5 years ago for around $80 (1.300.000 idr) with 90% condition and +- 2 sec/day...for 1970s technology...

Thanks Simon, well you got to see this one in person so pleased you still like it enough to watch the video!

So you can see the our at 12 as the hand passes over? I never really saw that as an issue but it a good point.

Well I dont agree as I can still read the time even with my bad eyes. Its different and not all watches have to be 3 handers. If you see my jump hour collection from the 70s most of them you cant tell the time at a glance. Its different, not for everyone but interesting nether the less. Jump hours have been around since I think the 1920s actually on pocket watches and early wristlets.

On reflection I am assuming you mean that the minute hand covers the hour window. This is only for 3 minutes roughly as I shown in the speeded up part of the video. I dont really have issue with it as on a normal day for me I know what hour I am in without needing a watch to tell me as time is now everywhere especially on my phone.

maybe but ask yourself when are you ever out of sync by an hour in your daily life. I know I am not. It passes over in only 3 minutes as my speeded up footage shows.

@mywatchreviews Sometimes I don't even know what day it is 😊

True, but it means you can't really see it "jump" properly which is kinda the whole point

@@philw4053 I get that but it’s the limitation of the movement. There are no 2-3 rotating disc movements out there and a small stubby minute hand would not work either. A slightly skeletonised hand might which is what many are suggesting in comments. There’s a lot of comments actually! As I own so many jump hours I am used to the impracticality of them so don’t really see the issues like may another do.

Its to a budget but equally Seiko & Miyota are just not offering a movement with these features. Seiko do not even do a movement that has a subdial second hand position. Its a good jewel count even at its lowest spec of 20 which is more than enough to aid a friction free movement which shows on the reasonably clean trace on the timegrapher.

@@mywatchreviews You're right , I'm expecting too much for the money. Nh35 s can be very poorly regulated too, the last one I had was almost 2mS beat error.

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I don't believe Miyota offer a movement with this complication (correct me if I am wrong) but agreed on the crystal in todays world. Maybe they worry that by costing more they would not shift as many units?

@@mywatchreviews I know almost nothing about movements so you’re probably right. I guess I meant for their more traditional three handers. And you’re probably right about that, they are probably worried about cost. I also believe their primary market is the Chinese / Asian Markets who probably worry less about movements than us pain in the ass Westerners…

I believe it’s because of the minutes being shown as the markers. A Field Watch would have “12” at the top with 1,2,3 etc. going clockwise.

Well I say they class it as pilots probably from the minutes on the hour markers but a pilots should be big, clear and legible which the hour window is not. I wound not get hung up on what category it falls into.

Maybe he landed ;)

Its basically something a bit different and thats what I like the most about it.

I meant it was a new brand to me. I had not heard of Seizenn.