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What is this place? I dream of visiting here

Fishing that range also made me want a regular fly rod to reach out into the lakes

That mountain range isn’t named after winter weather for nothing

it didnt click at first for me either. i learned tenkara and then when i picked up a slightly better fly rod. the cast came more naturally, the muscle memory did transfer over. start with the line in front of you flick it backwards with a sort of tossing away an apple over your shoulder, except the rod is your hand and the line is the apple now, let the line load the rod, you'll feel it with practice, it will feel like an increase in pressure, not a tug when your rod is loaded with the weight of the line, start your forward cast gently with a forward push and gentle wrist rotation until you are sure the you've gathered all your tippet into moving the same direction as your main line (this is how you avoid whipping) Only when you are sure that your main line and tippet are moving toward you from the back, NOW you can cast, accelerate the forward and rotational pressure until rod is at stopping point and stop decisively. my visual for this is throwing darts. again, the rod is your hand allow the line to pass through your left fist as it shoots out. keep in mind that the timing of your cast will need to change as more line is in play

Some attention to your nomenclature might help your comparisons. Since when is a tenkara rod not a REAL fly rod? I don't think you'd call a tenkara rod a FAKE fly rod. I'm left with the perception you chose those words to stir emotions and get more clicks. If a rod is made to cast unweighted flies, it's a fly rod. Might I suggest "western fly rod" will better match the literature and help avoid sowing discord.

I have that same rod combo but in a 2wt. Love Moonlit and Nirvana rods in addition to Tenkara.

The wind can be your friend in that it pushes the trout’s food against the windward shore and the splash back zone if there are ripples to wave action. So, you want to be casting into the wind and parallel to the shore where the trout will be patrolling looking for their next bite, often within inches of the shore line. It is often said that the difference between lakes and streams is that streams have current and lakes do not. But when the winds blow, lakes also have current. By casting into the wind, you can set yourself up to get drag free drifts of your fly pattern and imitate the direction the trout’s food will be moving naturally. In comparing Tenkara to fly fishing under windy conditions, like fly fishing Tenkara will do much better when PVC fly lines are cast on Tenkara rods. Of course you will loose a lot of the ability to hold the line up and off of the water in casting a PVC line but holding your line off of the water does not work all that well when it is windy anyway. On your casting problems, if you adopt the first finger on top casting hand position on the rod grip, that will stop you from breaking your wrist on the back casi, which causes the rod to move back farther than 90 degrees, causing the line to drop. Just as in Tenkara casting, more effort should be put into the back cast (with an abrupt stop in western fly casting) than is needed for the forward cast to load the rod for the forward cast. After you get the feel of loading the rod, you can go back to using the more powerful thump on top of the grip, grip for western tackle…Karl.

I was a fly reel fisherman for YEARS! Stick to tenkara. It’s so much better! Good video again.

Fun! Kinda surprised at that fish are in that little “pool”. Kinda looks like it would completely freeze in the winter @ that elevation! Obviously not. No telling how many times we(I) overlook fishing holes! Fun video and congrats on your “walk on the wild side”(trying something different). Keep em coming & we’ll keep “liking & subscribing”! Neil.

The mechanics of casting a fly rod vs a tenkara rod is similar but not the same. It is important with casting fly line to keep the tip of the rod moving in less of an arc than in a straight line, so rather than just hinging at the wrist or elbow as you’d do with a tenkara rod, it is more akin to throwing a dart, if that makes sense. Yes, you still have the hard start/stop at the beginning and end of the movement, with wrist snapping the rod from the 10 - 2 positions during the casts. There are many excellent yt vides that show and explain it better than I can verbally. I’ll include a link. ruclips.net/video/MvaTGTmbSUw/видео.htmlsi=0WP9EcoEnpXln32g And this one (casting instructions start at 4:52). ruclips.net/video/00Acb90Lq7c/видео.htmlsi=vKZfxZaabw9sgMLj

This is a brilliant video. I love the new style and it’s good to see the struggle. As someone who began with a spinning reel, has been learning fly fishing for the last decade, and picked up tenkara from you (so still suck at that!) I love to see the progress. Your scenery is always amazing and thank you for putting in the work to show this!

You did awesome for your first time and you caught some fish! That's a win in my book :) I have been fly-fishing for over 40 years and Tenkara for 4 and it takes practice and a lot of time on the water to get really good. Like you said practice makes progress. You never become an expert in fly-fishing, there is no such thing! There is always something new to learn and discover in this sport. It's a life long pursuit and passion. Keep practicing! When I first started I would cast on the lawn at a target and side arm cast so I could watch my loops. A phone helps now-a-days to see what you are doing right or wrong. Presentation is key in fly-fishing, above everything else. if you can cast accurately to a fish and present the fly in a natural way, you will catch fish! That matters so much more than fly selection. Unless you are high sticking with the rod, keep the rod tip low and line tight to the fly. It will help with your hook-ups. Good Luck!

Your comment about "practice makes progress" rather than "practice makes perfect" hit home. First I thought of my daughter who is quite talented in many things. However, she is a perfectionist as you said your son is, and as a result she often gets frustrated and won't further engage in something simply because she's worried she can't achieve her level of perfection. In other words, if it doesn't come easy to her, then she doesn't want any part of it. As I thought about how maybe I could change my approach to parenting, I also was struck by a thought... are we all guilty of this in one way or another? I know I have been in regards to fly fishing... I have a fly rod and end up leaving it at home or back at my vehicle and instead fall back on using lures because I am most comfortable with that method. Thanks for your example of getting out of your comfort zone and trying something different from what you're used to and also finding the pros in the new skill you're practicing, rather than downplaying it so you can feel justified not pursuing the skill. I'd LOVE to see you catch a golden trout, so you have my support in making another attempt!

fly fishing alpine lakes is hard! there's always a hea d wind, very little space for the back cast...it just takes time! you did great.

Congratulations on trying something new! And I think you did just fine. Practice that good counsel you offer your son: “Practice makes _progress_.” The very best fly fishers I know are constantly trying new things and striving to improve their technique. Give yourself time to let your body learn the tempo of casting, and a bit more time still for left hand line management to become virtually unconscious. Improved accuracy comes with time, too; and someday you will simply look at where you want your fly to land, and lo and behold, it does! I’ve been a fly fisher for 65 years, as of this year, and a tenkara angler for ten. Love them both; most trips find me equipped with each. Each has its rewards. Enjoy your learning and savor your progress!

I started out tenkara a few years ago and love it. This summer though, I bought an Orvis Clearwater 9' 5wt setup. It's tough to get long casts unless I have a lot of weight. It's a bit clunky, line everywhere. But that said, I can still cast waaayyyyy further than with even my 15' tenkara rod. It's taken me some time and I'm still not quite used to it. One issue I have is keeping my line tight enough (there's so damn much of it) when using nymphs, so I decided to get some indicators to help with that and I will try it on my next time out. Mostly I just got it to try and go for some Steelhead here in WA during the winter months, so I'll be throwing some pretty heavy streamers. If I still need a bit more weight, I may throw on a big nymph or some shot in addition to streamers. May try changing up my line too. Anyway, have fun, you're already doing ok since you're at least catching some fish. Also, just pack a tenkara rod with you for when (if) it starts to get frustrating. I've been switching between the two to make sure I at least get some fish in the net one way or the other.

Just cast it exactly like you would a tenkara rod. The physics are the same. You don't need the exaggerated arm movement. Also, it will be easier if you use a fly that is less wind resistant. Finally, you can probably wait until day 2 to master a double haul! Have to say, though, tarn nation is beautiful ;-)

i really like those rods. i’ve got the 5wt.

Seems like a matter of application and personal preference to me. Traditional fly rods, tenkara rods, Spey rods all have their advantages/disadvantages, unique manipulation, etc. The common thread being they are (mainly) used to target trout/salmon with flies and were created to do so and to solve a specific problem. Spey rods were developed in the river Spey, which is large. Tenkara in the small mountain streams of Japan. The debate for superiority is very similar and equally stupid to bass fisherman arguing spin vs bait casting setups in my opinion. Different applications and personal preferences.

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You said casting a fly. You're not casting a fly but lobbing them. In my experience in curiously trying out just the fly because of the front facing hackle, I found out that at least where I trout fish in the Ozark's, trout hammer them. in the lower currents where they like to feed. Now, I have over 700 flys...(experience). So, after that experience I bout about 50 different type of Tenkara flies. The Black Shinpuru this week I caught 5-trout 13-16" , 2 hours on that one fly alone using Tight Line Euro Nymphing with my 22' built leader ,10'.5" Moonshine Epiphany with Redington Tilt. That is a very well balanced combination using all 3-one once weights. But, since I have 19 fly rods...(experience), 3wt-8wt...(experience) and use all of them regularly bass, bluegill and trout, (I'm retired and that's pretty much all I do) I find that traditional fly fishing is real fly casting fishing and there is way more skill involved with the equipment and technique. Than Tenkara and Euro lobbing a fly fishing. I do a lot of French Euro Nymphing and found it to be tediously boring but though slightly MORE PRODUCTIVE because the drag a fly line creates, yet, the main emphasis is catching trout since what else does those 2 types of lobbing a fly can do. Sort of like hunting deer with a bow rather than a rife which I've done much of both too. There isn't anything special thinking that Euro Nymphing and Tenkra is big deal. It's a lazy mans type of fishing that you think your in the category of traditional FF. So, stop griping about what we think and calling us snobs. Then you're going to get a reaction. Just do what you do and keep you mind on that rather than what we are all supposedly thinking when most are not. Right!! Who is saying we can't get along???

Very refreshing to see folks not holding fish out of the water or over handling trout for the "Glory" shots. Like how many pics do people need of themselves and fish. Every time you handle fish mortality rates go way up. Leave them in the net and take the shots, pull the fly and say goodbye.

I do both as well , people that think that are mouth runners, pioneers of fly fishing river Cain and horse mane is pioneers I forgot the Indigenous invented the fly reel thousands of years ago 😂🎉 Great video nice fish and very good form

Awesome video mate

Wow that footage was amazing good job

This is what it's all about for me 🙌 backpack in to beautiful places and catch beautiful trout 😍 I've been fished a slot canyon like that. So cool! Thanks for sharing!

Another awesome video! Those browns are gorgeous.

Nice👍💗💗

i use streamers 50% of the time. it requires more technic then a fly because i present it as if its alive and moving through the water as apposed to a fly that the water dictates its path. you can also pop a streamer on the top of the water and get hits. most trout leave the water to slam it. my favorite thing is to get them to chase it full speed while jigging quick and watch them just inhale it! if your not fishing streamers you don't know what your missing.......literally.

What state?

Beautiful water…. Just bouncing along like a bunny!

Definitely a great part of the state. Those little streams tend to get overlooked by anglers, being just outside of the great trout fishing mecca.

Gorgeous canyon. Love seeing petroglyph aliens! Those browns are really bleached out. Cool sucker too. Cheers, Chris.

Incredible country, wow!! Too bad you had to force yourself to go back there. 😅

4:40 Bernoullis principle in action!

Quite a magical setting. Beautifully photographed. And I absolutely loved that sucker - what a neat bonus!

Beautiful canyon and beautiful video. Thank you!

Excelente ❤

Hey Chris, I can see why this location sparked your addiction to tenkara. I don't think I've ever seen a more stunningly beautiful location, and you captured it in your singularly outstanding manner. You continue to amaze with your cinematographic skill and creativity. You're lucky to have this place on your list. Thanks for sharing!

Nice video, beautiful scenery!!

Thus guy ever say at least what vicinity gets in ? N/S/E/W ? I know ppl Don’t reveal their secret spots but would be nice to know.

I would like to see the flies you tie on when you change during the video

Great stuff guys. I'm a big fan of the Big Horns. Thanks for keeping those spots a secret! And nice catches, especially the brown at the end.

Nice Chris! Sorry haven't commented recently, ive been watching you on my TV. So today I thought, man I need to support my Tenkara homie🙃 Stunning camera work as always and beautiful fish!✌️

nice fish! with all those willow thickets, looks like prime moose country

I totally agree regarding your statement, "I don't even know if flies matter that much. General shape and presentation is about all."

Yeah, what they said! 😀

First video. New sub. Clean audio. Cool cameras work. 🎉

That was one beautiful river - and some truly impressive brown trout. Well done, and thank you for sharing this!

Awesome video mate