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I think you should take them to at least 100 miles then see how you feel about them. I definitely liked them better then than at mile 1. Thanks for sharing!

@@racethenation You were right, after about 70is miles in them they feel more molded to my feet. Maybe it's because I'm getting fitter and can load the plate better but I'm not feeling the weight as much. They aren't the most responsive shoe but they are enjoyable to run in and get a little bounce when I go tempo or higher. Thanks!

@@PatrickStar-km1dm That's great to hear! Very much appreciate the follow up! Happy running!

I think you will find them worth the wait!

Ha! You certainly aren't the first person to say the Speed 2 was the best, however you may be the first to say the 4s are big pointed boats! I wish I had tried the 2s.

I believe you are correct about the Shift. It's a max cushioned that I believe has been replaced by the Kinvara. Thanks for watching!

@@racethenation ...then there's the Kinvara Pro, which is a conundrum.

@@Wings_nut Ha, indeed. It's sometimes quite difficult to tell what the difference is between models, but I believe any time Saucony adds "Pro" to the name it means the shoe has a carbon plate.

@@racethenation True

Looks like version 2 will be out in July this year. May start getting really good deals on v1 soon!

@@racethenation most likely avoid v2 being peba, far to soft for me.

Glad you found it helpful! Enjoy them!

Great race! We loved it! Keep up the great work!

I like it when others have the same experience! Thanks for the input!

Thanks for watching!

I just love trying different brands/models of running shoes; it's one of my favorite things about running. I thought some folks would find it useful to know how the different shoes held up for 300 miles. So here I am. Plus, isn't variety the spice of life?🙂

Thanks for watching and yes, Hillsborough NC

BTW, do you have a favorite local race?

@racethenation I ran Reids Goldmine Half Marathon a couple times but that was years ago. They dont have that race anymore. Grandfather Mountain Marathon is my favorite.

@@wmcintyre1166Several folks from run club running Grandfather this year, they also love it. I'm not since doing Lost Dutchman in AZ week before, but one of these years. Happy trails!

I think they are slightly smaller than the Nimbus 25, very slightly. Just wear thinner socks! 😀

@@racethenation oh okay thank you!! do you think it's worth sizing up half a size or is the difference not that big?

@@yugiringus4630 no. If possible, try them in first. But I wouldn’t recommend sizing up.

We are please you found it helpful! Many thanks for watching!

Yeah, I think it will be a while before I try another Diadora. Thanks for watching and the comment! It's nice to know that other people are having the same experience as you (good or bad).

The important part is that you are still out there moving forward! Certainly there are plenty of folks who just use one pair of shoes until they simply fall apart, and if that works for you, great! But there is no debating the shoe's support, cushioning, responsiveness, grip, etc. will break down over time. But everyone wants the most miles for their money and my goal is to provide some insight as to what to expect from certain shoes. Thanks for sharing!

Great advice. Unsure why so many people need so many trainers. Get them, run and be happy until they are ruined then buy more. Issue is all these people on RUclips get them for free on occasions so try and push them for the companies as much as possible.

@@phehibs Yes, I did a RUclips channel for a few years on running shoes for old farts like me.I bought all of them that I reviewed. I did a video once on ,if you compete in races all you really need are your daily trainers and some lighter weight ,more responsive racing shoes. I listed about 5 categories these days that the shoe companies want to sell you 5 or 6 pairs. You know ,one for recovery days , one for up tempo days , one for interval speed training days , one for race day, etc.etc.

Wow what a great run you have had bro…I was in the Indian Army trained in just one pair of thick shoe in which we would do our BPET, 10 miles x country n night matches of 80 km… the responses of my shoes was as good as my minds response. We would keep going in best of timings knowing well that if u don’t do it now, you are coming back again tomorrow 😂… stay fit n keep taking the next step !

@@alfa_romeo0701 thanks for the message.

It was simply terrific! Yes, north east England has so much to offer, we love it! Thanks for watching!

Wow. It's crazy how some shoes can cause such issues with certain folks. But it happens! What shoe do you run with now?

@@racethenation brooks ghost solved the problem.

@@nytnapoli8327 Good info! Thanks for sharing!

Simply put, the Great North Run should be on everyone's bucket list of must do races! One of our very favorites! You're lucky to be able to run it every year!

@caroloconnor2541 Thanks so much for the feedback! It’s so nice to know that folks enjoy them!

@@racethenation I particularly appreciate you noting the temperature at the start and finish!

@@caroloconnor2541 Great to know. We will make sure to keep that in there! Thanks!

Glad you found it useful! Thanks for watching!

I am so glad someone else experienced that same issue with the tongue, I knew it couldn't be just me! Thanks for the sharing!

tongue slide kills me - have tried so many lacing options to negate this and can't - very annoying but otherwise great shoe@@racethenation

Certainly if they feel good, doing what you want them to do, then just keep on rolling!

Great information! You experienced all of the same issues I had (though I didn't have the hip pain). And I forgot to mention that I also got rocks in the big groove on the sole, so thanks for that!

@@racethenation I had 2 times hip pain. I am 60... First in the Hoka Rocket X. Second time in the New Balance SC Trainer V2.. I probably run a million miles in my life.. 😁

@@i.p2088 It is crazy how the wrong shoe can cause such issues! Here's to running another million miles!

That's truly the mark of a great shoe! Thanks for the comment!

I am going to assume you don't really want to buy a pure trail shoe (I've never worn one, so couldn't provide any thoughts on that anyways). I can certainly understand that the Max isn't great on trails, it's too flimsy and as you note, not highly cushioned. I recently did a trail ultra and after a couple different shoes, settled on the Hoka Clifton for the trails. Of all the highly cushioned shoes, I felt that provided the most responsiveness while providing a very stable, reliable landing pad (particularly on the trails). Was a shoe that for me, gave my foot a nice break. Hope that helps!

We appreciate it!

Appreciate the info! I haven’t run in the Invincible yet. I will need to give them a go. And thanks for subscribing!

Thanks so much for sharing! I really thought I was going to like this shoe, but ran into issues, most problematic was that the outer rubber sole wore away before I even reached 100 miles! So spoiler alert, my 300 Mile review will not be complimentary!

Ha! That's one of the reasons I liked it, I've got quite narrow feet. But shoe width is one of the most critical parameters for folks, so many thanks for noting that!

I couldn't agree more. Once the bounce is gone, they just aren't as fun to run in. I certainly understand anyone trying to squeeze as many miles out of their purchase as possible (the main reason I do these reviews), but believe you are also more apt to get injured running on shoes during miles 300-500 than from 1-300. Thanks for sharing!

My favorite one thus far is Saucony Endorphin Speed (version 3). Loved everything about it. The version 4 is supposed to come out April 2024. Thanks for watching!

Thanks for the info!

I can’t say I disagree, and don’t think Kipchoge was exactly thrilled with his likeness. Thankfully it has two sides! Thanks for watching!

Interesting indeed! It's nicely affirming when someone has the same experience as you, so thanks for sharing!

That's great because if you love this shoe, you will get a TON of miles out of it! Thanks for watching!

If we were to run a marathon in Canada, which one would you suggest?

Ha! Much of that is thanks to you!

Most definitely!

We had fun! Hope you made it to work just fine!

Had computer problems for the last month, finally resolved! Thanks again for talking!

Thanks so much for the comment! We don't get as many on our race videos as we do our shoe reviews, so we appreciate it! You'll have a wonderful time, enjoy!

That's great info, thanks for sharing!

Happy you liked it! Thanks for watching!