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Thanks for commenting. We find there's a lot of confusion between various Gore products, with the biggest being that all products made with Gore are waterproof. Windstopper fabric has no backing layer and as you imagine, it's hard to glue a seam tape to the non-stick teflon membrane. Under Gore licensing, you can't call a Gortex garment waterproof unless it's seam-sealed and tested by Gore. Not many people uderstand this difference. Down here, we can go from -2 to +24 in 5 hours. Wind and rain are a factor, way more than snow, that users will face. Knowing that this jacket will get the user through a reasonable amount of rain is good, but they have to know there are limits. We also have user responses telling us how well the jackets did in rain for something that is regarded as "not waterproof". So, it's important to know these things down here.

HI George, thanks for watching and commenting. We try very hard to satisfy customers with information and are quite surprised that you don't want to know that both bags will work with the Defence 4 to provide an extreme cold bag system, with the felxibility of covering a vast range of conoditions. Nothing random about that, and being that that's an important fact in the decision process, we scripted it into the video. If you want to be told what you should buy so you don't need to think about it, or expend any effort in making a decision, just tell us where you want to go and what time of the year and we can tell you which of our sleeping bags to buy. Otherwise, feel free to tell us the content you want to hear, how the features should be included, explained or excluded, and how you want it related to Australian conditions and what those conditions are. On the "Australian Conditions" note, please feel free to list the brands and products that you feel relate best to Australian conditions. We're always interested in the views and experiences of others and use them to help shape our products and offerings. Thanks again for watching and participating in the coments.

When you've used your skill and knowledge to develop a quieter IR treatment for face fabrics, let us know. We'll put it to Gore.

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 might want to talk to the guys over at arc'teryx with their LEAF line of clothing.

Hi Tjay, we've had no reports of issues with the durabilty of cordura panels in any of our brands. Generally, the cordura will be the last thing to go, but if you're contunually kneeling on sharp stuff with the hard pads inserted, you will experience accelerated wear, which is only natural for the conditions. Under normal hard use, the cordura shouldn't be a problem.

Fancy seeing you here!

@@NoNo-uy2bq 😂😂😂 ???

@@Tooligan2021helloyouTooligans I follow your channel, just didn’t expect to see you here. If I may ask, how well does the MIG stand up to the rain?

@NoNo-uy2bq ahh thanks for subbing to my channel, its a great all round jacket warm and has good water proofing, its not Goretex but water runs off well. Better than my Arc'teryx leaf cold wx.

@@Tooligan2021helloyouTooligans brilliant thanks very much, think I’ll have to pick one up :)

There’s a Finnish Company, Varusteleka that carries these bags and they ship worldwide.

I've got a MIG 3.0 and it sounded like I was wearing a crisp packet for a couple of weeks. No issues after that.

it wears off after a while

Hi Jay, the answer is yes and no. Yes, because you can shove any bag inside or outside another, but no, depending upon wether there is enough room for you inside, once they're together. When a two-bag system is made, the outer bag should be made with a greater circumference so as to fit around the inner bag, without crushing the insulation. As you'd be aware, if you crush the insulation, it doesn't insulate. Carinthia haven't tried this combination and tested it so there is no themal rating for this it and adding the ratings won't give you an answer. Really, the only way to find out is to give it a go. Hope this helps.

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 Thank you for the reply. I'll just have to give it a go 😎👍

@@jaywalker5561 my defense 1 does seem rather roomy, but that lessens when using the grizzly liner.

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 ok just checked i am 66 cm so should be good to wear a light synthetic puffy if needed I think...im sure my hips will be fine.....thanks for your response

RUclips decided that was what it was going to be. We'll get aorund to re-uploading it in higer res. Unfortunaltely, we'll loose the comments when we do.

Hi Tony, great question! Answer is they are fro securing the Polly-Cotton Liner that is available as an accessory. Not a very popular accessorie as you can use a grizzly and it really boosts the temp rating. Thanks for getting in touch!

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 oh so that was 550 Aussie dollars not US dollars?

@@OFFICIALUND You were clear in your first post and I tried to hint that you should check out some info on it, but ok. Treatments of fabrics for IR and NIR remission have been around for over thirty years (you've probably worn some and you haven't heard of them?) and it also includes choosing the dyes and pigments for how much they reflect in the spectrums, known as IR/NIR Values. The internet is full of images showing the differences between treated and untreated fabics, paints, buckles etc. As to thermal, anything that fully blocks heat transfer will defeat it. Are you, with your white phos DTNVS going to go to Gore's engineers and the defence technicians that develop and test this stuff, and tell them they are wrong? Our experience starts at AN/PVS 2 and continues, as we offer Act-In-Black products via Andres Industries, which means when we write a techincal document for a night vision tender, we had better know what we are on about. Our sniper products from Phantomleaf are carefully developed with techincal fabrics and dyes chosen solely for IR/NIR remission and are the best performers under NVG's that we have ever seen, and we have seen a lot. Now, everything has reflectance values and if your clothing and equipment values differ greatly from your surroundings, you will "beacon" under NVG's, and that's what its about, an IR type of camo. I appreciate your questions but you need to consider what your knowledge of the subject is before you say "that can't happen". We may be rough and unpolished in our videos, but we are knowledgable and the people who make this stuff are way smarter than us. We'd rather look a little slow than like "tactical wankers". you have a channel too, and your channel's targeted viewers will be merciless with you in their comments if you're just reading off the brochure. If you've had miltary experience, don't rely on that as your only knowledge base either, militaries teach just what you need to know to do the job and nothing more. We've been there too and these videos we do are to educate users on out prioducts to help them make better decisions with critical equipment. Get that knowledge built up and you can approach you videos with confidence. Stay Safe!

yes.

HI GadgetMart, the Tropen is a stand-alone bag made for hot-tropical conditions with a large temp variation. It does fit in the D4 and Carinthia sell Tropen and D4 as a system, but as far as we know from speaking with Cairnthia, it's not specifically made for bag-in-bag use. The main reason they put the two together is that with a center zip and side zip, it reduces the heat loss from having both zips located together. If you ever use the US Army bag-in-bag system, you'll know how painful the double zips are and that it causes a cold bridge. Hope this helps!

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 I have the Defence 4, it’s a great bag. I’ve just got the FECSA British Army modular sleep system for my G/F that does tie together. (Defence 4/Tropen copy)

@@GadgetMart Carinthia stuff for UK MoD is usually to their spec and will vary from the military-off-the-shelf gear. That will be a great combo!

Text copied from Carinthia sleepingbag catalog: SLEEPING BAG SYSTEM (TROPEN + DEFENCE 4) The system consists of the two sleeping bags described above. Considering the low weight of the system (approximately 3 kgs in total), it guarantees unbeatable thermal performance with minimum packing size and weight. The Defence 4 serves as the outer sleeping bag and the Tropen as the inner sleeping bag. Both bags fit into the compression bag of the Defence 4. This combination of a centre-zipper outer bag and side-zipper inner bag provides maximum comfort in extreme conditions. The inner sleeping bag also serves as a liner bag. It is easy to wash and dries quickly. There is no need to wash the complete system.

The outer fabric is a little noisey at first, but quietens down with with use and washes. The relativey new G-Loft Windstopper is not rated as low, but has a great outter fabric from Cordura. Not the same technical level as the Gortex, but has a realtively soft feel to it and is quiter. Unfortunately, as we're in lockdown again I don't have a video of that coming any time soon!

For the first time this week, it's trakkie daks!

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 In the video?

@@rpm6085 In the video, yes. In lockdown, not today!

Sorry Martin, why should we have this? We don't sell or support paragliders. If you are after one, go to your local or favourite paragliging supplier, tell them you want one and pass them our details. I'm pretty sure that you won't won't to buy a wholesale qty of carabiners but your retailer might be interested. Thanks for getting in touch.

Thanks Sarrienne, UF Pro really make the effort to fit that 95th percentile of users as they and others know that exactly how important fit is to function and comfort. Like you, I have noticed that no-one describes how the trousers are expected to be worn, which may cause measuring errors in fitting.

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 I might actually have to take back what I said, as a team-mate of mine is having problems with his knee pads... In his case, he has a 30" waist and 34" inseam... UF Pro just don't go that long, meaning he had to buy the 32" waist, which then hangs too loose and low for the kneepads, but can't be worn higher up with a belt, as it bunches up under the belt and causes serious chafing.

@@Sarrienne I hate to say it but your teammate is likely in the world of custom fitting to get any propper fit. In thier case, the Crye adjustment system is a benefit but whatever off-the-shelf size they get, there will be compromise. Most uniform makers aim to fit what is called the 95th Percentile of people, but there are some shapes that you will find outside this. Knowing Armin and the guys at UF Pro, if he contacts them, they might be able to do him some 30/34 trousers. I'd imagine there would be an additional cost involved. Maybe pass that one onto the boss...

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 I'll see about getting him in touch. I just find it odd that UFP stop at 32", as most other tactical brands I use go to 36" on their waist sizes... not sure about Crye, as I'm not a fan of their kit myself, but since they supply many of our units' standard uniforms, I'd guess they'd have to supply every imaginable size under the sun!

@@Sarrienne You mean 36" Middle Leg size and not waist?

HI. LIG Jackets run true to size. If you're a medium in a US BDU or other clohting that is sized correctly, you will be the same. You can find the sizing here: www.coolkit.com.au/sizing-info/ Also, the LIG 3.0 has now been replaced by the version 4.0.

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 thanks for tour time and reply they are nice jackets

@@ironkid8836 No problem at all. Stay tuned to the channel as with restrictions easing, we're gettring back together with the film crew to make more videos and update this one with the LIG 4.0. Thanks for watching!

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 will do thanks for the info

Hi, Thanks for getting in touch. We're the Australian distributor for UF Pro, so that's an Aussie accent you're hearing.

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 Thanks. Sorry for I didn't hear that.

@@premierdefenceagencies8145 I'm Scottish, but people often accuse me of being Australian. Bizarre, eh!

Hi James, thanks for watching! The General Purpose Jacket is free once you sign-on for a minimum four year enlistment contract with the Australian Army. In actuality, the ADF protects the AMCU pattern and therefore contols all items of equipment issued in it. Being in defence industry, we we're able to borrow one for the video and return it. You may find one being sold by some unscrupulous type somewhere, but that has it's own risks. Thanks again for watching and commenting and we plan to have some more gear videos posted soon, including some Rough & Ready short videos.

I know this is a really old comment, but Crossfire Australia was the manufacturer for the GP Jacket in AMCU and they made many for public sale in coyote brown.