Видео

The Galaxy Class was commissioned in the late 2350's and the Ambassador by 2330's, you are getting your dates a little off.

Yes starbases are mobile, the original Earth spacedock was moved !

They would never give Garth a commission to captain a starship again. Infact, just going by the original episodes, the hero of Axanar, is the very reason I believe Starfleet is actually afraid of or wary even of Kirk. Kirk is a combat strategy savant, but Starfleet's first combat savant is Garth if Izar. So in the episode M-5, the very officers that replaced Kirk as captain with the M-5 to control the Enterprise are also the people that immediately believe Kirk is responsible for killing so many of them during the battle simulation. Why would they think it was Kirk, if the knew M-5 was supposed to be controlling everything? Simple, Garth of Izar. Starfleet is scared of the man who is even more cunning and effective than Garth, and one has to wonder, if Kirk goes crazy like Garth ... who in Starfleet could stop him? I believe the possibility of Kirk being a serious threat to Starfleet if he ever defects or goes crazy as Garth did is in the back of every big wig's mind within Starfleet. I also think it is why they chose to replace Kirk with the M-5 over every Starfleet captain. If Starfleet thinks the risk Kirk poses is so great that they tried to replace him with a computer, then they sure as hell aren't going to risk putting Garth back in the chair!!!

Excellent review.

Fighters would do nothing in the star trek universe. they'd be seen and picked off as easily as they were when the Borg invaded sector 001.

According to novels canon, the original DS9 was destroyed after Bajor joined the federation, and a new one was built by Starfleet.

1) lack of Andromeda, Orion, Atlas, M103, Thuban, Sirius, Dubhe, Faulmout, and the other galactic council memberships; 2) lack of United federation of planet annual space budget; …

A starbase is not a military base, it's a "drydock". This is star trek tech, it's only a matter of cubic footage and the station had plenty for upgrades.

Time. Resources. Do you think they could clap their hands and materialize a space station out of thin air?

The entire series of DS9 took place OUTSIDE of Federation space (except for the few episodes on earth and in that space station during the war). Bajor never joined the Federation during the run of DS9. IN FACT, Sisko's mission from Starfleet as stated by Captain Picard in the very first episode was to "do everything short of violating the Prime Directive to ensure that they are [ready to join the Federation]." So my question is this: why would Starfleet build a space station in space that doesn't belong to them?

I would also argue the galaxy class could serve as a carrier, the hanger bay is massive and could easily be modified in a time of war

Wait…are you suggesting that the a Galaxy Class design was “old” by the Dominion War? The class was still in full production at the time, the very, very oldest Galaxies would have been pushing like a decade, but newer ships like the Venture would have been 2-3 years old? I’m not really sure why fans treat federation ships like cellphones. A Klingon Vorcha was about 25 years old by the war and the BoO design is more than a century old. We even see K’Tinga ships from the 23rd century. The Romulan D’Deridix seems to be significantly older than the GC, as does the Galor. Even the Ambassador design would really only be entertaining middle age by Trek standards.

Wait…are you suggesting that the a Galaxy Class design was “old” by the Dominion War? The class was still in full production at the time, the very, very oldest Galaxies would have been pushing like a decade, but newer ships like the Venture would have been 2-3 years old? I’m not really sure why fans treat federation ships like cellphones. A Klingon Vorcha was about 25 years old by the war and the BoO design is more than a century old. We even see K’Tinga ships from the 23rd century. The Romulan D’Deridix seems to be significantly older than the GC, as does the Galor. Even the Ambassador design would really only be entertaining middle age by Trek standards.

Because it was a TV show and it didn't follow the plot.

This is how memory alpha … and all trek presentations, should be. Some of the language might change, fitting ASA type standards, with citations and commentary displayed in the UI

These are great and so immersive, I forgot this was fantasy.

They Loved the Cardassian design, Stockholm Syndrome

I think the Bajorans declined cooperation with StarFleet and were subsequently conquered by the Cardadsisns. If not by Cardassia then some other power. Bajorans were light of military for having such an asset.

A 10-year-old ship isn't exactly old...

I have always wanted a series about a fully functional federation star base. Once usually run by the defunct rank of Commodore. I guess today it would be a fleet captain. A higher rank for a Star Base to put all visiting starships captains in check. Could you see Fleet Captain Benjamin Sisko in charge of a federation behemoth of a station.

You forgot the Defiant-class starships.

That map is wrong. Cardassians are on the other side of the quadrant from klingons

While Fans regard the Steamrunner, Akira, Sabre and Norway as New Michael Okuda creator of the Registry in TNG says these shops were designed and built before Galaxy Class. Nor are they powerful. All these ships have 3 or less phasers and all but one lacks torpedo tubes of any kind. They are under armed

I'll speak hypothetical, since the Federation was invited in, they should have stripped the station of anything that could be a security risk, I mean replicators and the computer core, but then we'd not hav ea show

The Star Trek Armada games taught us how important Phasor and Torpedo Platforms/Turrets are around a wormhole :D

the defensive layout seems too 2 dimensional......

Cardassia did nothing wrong.

RL reason: Building the set for a starbase for the DS9 show would have cost a lot of cash that the people paying for the show didn't want to pay. So they wrote the story around what they had. 😋

why not also review what the federation actually did to strengthen it? New software and hardware integrations to leverage existing systems (such as they were) into working alongside more advanced Starfleet tech that was brought in to replace or augment systems that needed it. new power generation to increase energy availability which powered new shields and a massive array of new phaser and photon turrets installed on the system.

I just wanted to say that your analysis of both the political and engineering aspects of the situation were spot on, and I totally agree with your assessment.

I wonder if some of your ideas used by the mirror Terran Rebellion I wonder post Kelvin Timeline Starfleet after Vulcan destroyed

We know that DS9 was still in service just after the Dominion War but we don't know, really, what happens after that except for fanfiction I always wondered what happened next Kira became the commanding officer and, presumably, became a full colonel (the Army/Marine/Air Force equivalent of a captain) LT. JG Nog became her assistant Dr. Bashir and Ezri Dax became a romantic couple and stayed on DS9 O'Brien and his family moved to Earth where he became a teacher at Starfleet Academy teaching engineering Federation ambassador Worf and Chancellor Martok went to Quonus Grand Nagus Rom and Leeta left for Ferenginar Quark stayed on DS9 and, as Lower Decks says, he opened up franchises of a couple of dozen other Quark's around the Federation And Odo went to join The Great Link in order to bring peace. According to Picard, it didn't last But what happened after that at DS9? No one knows

i sort of saw the FASA Derf class as one of the ships that took on some of the maintenance retrieval tasks that sometimes would got to the Ptolemy.

You forgot to add the most powerful shield generators you could get and relocate the stations vital points behind those massively overpowered shield generators. This combined with your suggestion means DS9 is going to be a very costly battle

I have written a fanfic a few years ago where a starfleet cadet visited DS9. I thought the same thing and came up with the conclusion, that although orignially TerokNor was a prisoncamp, after the liberation of Bajor, over the years, it became a symbol of hope and embracing the future while not forgetting the past, as it was the frontline againt the dominion and the watchtower over the wormhole. That's why, although Bajor joined the Federation a few years after the war, the Bajorans wanted to keep DS9 and not getting a "modern" starbase, a wish both Starfleet and the Federation respectfully fulfiled. Beacuse the Station transferred into a symbol of resurrection and triumph over the past.

Akira class.

Awesome videos I'm really enjoying these

The simple answer is in DS9: the Bajorans did not want an occupying force or the perception of one. It's important to remember that Bajor was in charge of the station, and Sisko's choices went that route as well as the Federation, which made his job so difficult in the early moments of the series. The show is very clear on this question. A good question would be about the other side of the station and the Dominion's ridiculous choice not to have a strong presence on the other side, perhaps with another station, once it was discovered. This would have been interesting in the story.

Because PLOT

Thanks for the video. I like all of your suggestions regarding increased security and defense of the station. Still, I have to point out that any off-station defensive designated assets, whether platforms or attack fighters, would be perceived by everyone as a provocation. I thought years ago the Federation should lease their older ships to the Bajorans. Think of it as "lend-lease." Any concerns or official complaints that would be levied against Star Fleet for beefing up the station's offensive capabilities would be moot. The Bajorans would be the operators of said vessels. If those 'old' ships happen to be upgraded, oh well. The Bajorans do not have any plans to conquer anyone. Their history has yet to show that. Upgrading their "home guard" would be sensible and necessary. Even the other three major powers would agree to that, with few reservations. The Klingons would have no reservations; in fact, they would insist on participating in such planning. The thought of planning a defense against overwhelming odds would have them drooling. The Romulans would be cautious in their approval. Still, they would insist on observers/spies through the planning and initial operation phases but would have been excluded from participating in the full-scale implementation. The Bajorans would be aware of this Romulan duplicity; they haven't forgotten Romulan treachery during the war. The Bajorans see the entire concept as an opportunity to spy on the Romulans for their own security, which they pitch to and ask for guidance from Star Fleet intelligence (in reality Section 31). The Bajorans know 31 will use this as an opportunity on their end. During the war they were privy to the lengths Section 31 would go to 'win.' In fact, the Bajorans are more concerned about Section 31 than the Romulans. For the Bajorans, it's a double-blind operation. Get both parties to watch each other while they watch them. After all, both governments believe the Bajorans are only onery, old-fashioned, superstitious, farmers and free minded artists. They aren't capable of being devious (like them.) The Cardasians will remain somewhat aloof. Officially pestering Star Fleet and the Bajorans with their promise they won't launch "retribution squads" against a weakened Cardassia. But in reality, the Cardassian Resistance, now rebuilt and governoring the Union, are still operating somewhat in the shadows, and have been in backdoor talks with the Bajorans. They, too, are concerned about Section 31, and both parties are slyly observing the ins and outs of that shadowy genocidal 'Terran" organization. So far, they are at a loss to counter Section 31's machinations if their worlds are threatened, but "Counselor Garak" may have an idea. Something he secretly hopes will work but at the cost of a friendship, an adopted family, and his soul. Still, this doesn't mean DS9 couldn't get upgrades or a total overhaul. And if that overhaul means a larger powerplant, better armor, shield, and weapons, so be it. Hell, why not add some extra decks while we are at it! Afterall, "These are the times that try men[s] souls." As long as those upgrades are integral to the station, nondeployable combat-designated assets such as strike fighters and/or weapons platforms, there will no need to protest. As for those weapons platforms, I would substitute them with sensor platforms that can be used as counter-sensor platforms when needed. Without long-range tracking, any ship/fleet foolish enough to attack the station would have to close into the "kill zone." If not stopped by the Bajoran Home Guard first. If not, the Home Guard could attack that foolsi enemy fleet from behind. Acting as a cavalry unit. For attack fighters, I would triple the usual complement of runabouts. But instead of all of them being housed "on station," I would set up Landing Zones throughout the system that can facilitate repairs and arm/re-arm if the need arises. These "away stations" could also act as aux command/flight stations if or when the station is compromised. They would be officially called "Transit Centers."

A minefield around a station that's got commerical interests probably would be a bad idea.

Practically they did totally redo DS9 enhancing every system and turning it into a battlestation with 5000 photon torpedoes!

This guy doesn’t understand the Bajorians or the Federation.

Why does this map have the Cardassian Union and Klingon Empire next to each other? They are opposite ends of the Federation. The Klingon & Romulan Empires are in the Beta Quadrant, while the Cardassian Union is at the far end of the Federation territory in the Alpha Quadrant.

biggest reason government Red Tape like OSHA, do we use union or non-union labor does davis bacon act apply? environmental impact studies and so on ... that's the real reason why

Why would they when there’s already a perfectly usable facility already there?

Keeping the Bajorans a weak power was smart. There was no genocide against them, though to be fair that was never Cardassia’s intention. And since Bajor’s resources were already depleted, they were more like contraband than prisoners of war.

Because the DS9 model was distinct and had a unique character of it's own. From a storyline perspective, starting with a broken down, crippled ore processing centre almost gives the station a character arc as it becomes a trade hub and then a battle ready station.

3:10 That's not a starbase; that's a spacedock. You might have a starbase on a spacedock, but you can also have starbases on planets or smaller stations.

0:37 I don't know if they ever use the word "protectorate," but Bajor is not a protectorate of the Federation. A protectorate governs its own internal affairs while recognizing the suzerainty of another state. Bajor is what is known as a "protected state." It is under the Federation's protection, but it remains sovereign.