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I really appreciate the concerns, advice, and ideas. Most of those subjects and issues have been addressed in past episodes, however with the flood of new viewers and supporters, in my next 3-4 episodes I’ll be starting a detailed build breakdown where I will discuss the current setup, goals, and how I got to the current setup through over more than 7 years of engineering, research, building, and development. As for going to spectate at Pikes, my wife and I have been twice, went to practice days, and even got to spend race day with David Donner, whom you can imagine was a wealth of knowledge. Also, you might want to stay tuned to see about the plans for ‘25, you’re on the right track there. Thanks again for the comments!

@@johnfiore91 Carroll Smith wrote several books back in the 70s and 80s that were recommended to all beginning SCCA racers. "Prepare to Win" and "Tune to win" were his originals. One of the best ideas was what he called "paper dolls". You measure all of the suspension components and pick up points and then cut out posterboard facsimiles and draw your suspension pickup points on an adequately sized flat surface and then you put the posterboard trailing arms, etc on the flat surface and work the parts through their travel. Nowadays you would use CAD programs to do the same thing.

Agreed with tailshaft. My old Supermodified [1968 forerunner to a Sprintcar] has this issue and is possibly longer @ 92". You need the suspension to go up and down, through a very small arc. I have clearanced both front and rear yokes to gain angle. You will only require max 6" of travel, 5" will do ok. 3.5 down and 1.5" up from ride height. And yes I once hillclimbed it,,,, rear brakes only, chassis set remotely square and even dia tyres. I just needed 3 hands!,, one to steer, one to change gear and one for the brake. It now has a hand clutch which will make it harder. Coilovers would be simpler and easier to 'tune' and using one torsion bar per end could make a good sway bar. I doubt you would need one front but a softer front bar in the rear would be ok rear,, make it adjustable. That is the way I set up my road race tintops for hillclimbs

No way!!! Winners push forward!!! The best testing is during racing!!! If it’s not right, then you will know, talking to racers, is important, but seat time!! Is far more valuable!! This isn’t just a video, to win. It’s a race!!

@@metalted6128 "Seat time" is just a meaningless phrase If the car never runs anywhere near it's potential. Winners do their winning in the preparation of the car before it ever is at a track. The driving is the easy part.

Why?

He came to many right hand turns. WTH are you talking about???

People who speak without doing any research on the car or watch the other 28 episodes just make themselves sound really silly huh

Thanks man!!! It’s definitely something you have to ease into lol

@@HJR17 it’s an RPM 88/41.5 1/2” RR originally specced out for Kasey Kane Racing, it was Daryn Pittman’s car for the World of Outlaws in 2017. We’ve made a bunch of subtle modifications for it to work with this setup. I appreciate the interest!

Thanks man! It did slip so that’s why called it after only one run. I’m new to trans gearing and it’s proving to be an expensive education lol

Thanks man. The car he drove was not actually a sprint car, it’s a sprint car’s bigger and heavier brother, a next generation “silver crown” or “champ car” car that was run wingless on pavement super speedways in the early 2000s for 3 years, mostly as a support series for Indy car. My best friend was on the tour for 2 of the 3 years. For comparison, his car is 2500lbs while mine is about 1900lbs. I like his car and what he and Roger Johnson accomplished but it’s not a sprint car (even though he proclaimed it was lol). My car’s chassis ran with the World of Outlaws Sprint Car Series in 2017. I know some will try to argue that but midgets and silver crown cars are not sprint cars.

@@racenriggs98 I agree, we started with 1025s all the way around, I’m thinking about 1050s in the front

I’m not sure I know that one lol

Good call, that’s the plan, we will have twins on for Pikes!!! We start at 9000ft and go to 14115ft, definitely need a turbo, blowers are rpm limited but a turbo never stops spooling. I had a great conversation with a couple engineers from the Sendy club about that same subject.

I’m at a loss right now boss, I’m gonna call Quarter Master today.

I would love to go that route but there isn’t an auto trans that is small enough and able to support 500+ hp, I plan to get a TTi sequential 4 or 5 speed but it’s $10k.

That is the eventual plan, I want to concentrate on the car without aero first and figure out what kind of modifications an oval car wing needs besides the obvious.

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@@genxunclekey I would absolutely love that!!!!

Thank you! I think I should drive it a few hundred more times lol.

@@johnfiore91 go for it! Jealous you get to run it for the hill climb no worry about traffic or pedestrians

@@davidaarons2488 growing pains lol

I soaked that area really well from all sides, you can use a nylon brush for the details, just get all you can see with the header off. There is a lot of discoloration from the welding in that area and the paint will adhere better there since I think they’re painted while they’re still hot.

Thank you! There isn’t much left of a traditional car so that it would turn both ways lol

Thanks and great meeting you also!!!

Thanks man, we definitely will be better prepared after learning a lot from this. We will definitely be running wings eventually (especially for Pikes) but they’ll have to be custom a probably very expensive. I’m not worrying about aero right now though, there is a lot to sort out and I have to learn how to drive both the car and hillclimbs. Like you said, two more marks!

Ive always wanted to build a Pikes Peak Car as a (kid but believe it or not ) when they forced paved it i lost a little interest .Being a huge fan of Jim Hall’s Chaparral’s i wanted to have a adjustable WING…! Now seeing you have run this midget gives me some hope again like old SMOKEY THE Ford Pickup…! So I think the FACTORY FIVE CARS would be interesting..LIGHTWEIGHT, BUILD IT YOURSELF, ADD A WING for a little downforce, ‘’CHEVROLET POWER ‘’ BIG T.B.M. BRAKES and dad your on TOP..!!! …. GOOD LUCK TO YOU IN THE FUTURE …!

@@Hotrodclassic Its a SPRINT CAR they have 8 PISTONS LOL

@@HotRodMonza1776 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN..? KYLE LARSON DRIVES SPRINT CARS AND YES THEY ARE POWERFUL WEDGE V8’S .. ?? 🤷🏻‍♂️ HE ALSO DRIVES MIDGETS THAT ARE NOT V-8’S ..? SO ? ? 🤷🏻‍♂️🤔🏁

@@Hotrodclassic You called this car a MIDGET so it is a SPRINT CAR NOT A MIDGET and to be TRUTHFUL its not a WEDGE V8 the heads have moved past that for like 30 years

Overall I’m happy with our efforts but racing Sunday would have been very beneficial and a lot more fun lol. Great meeting you as well!

Very appreciated, thanks and we’ll do our best!

Thanks Dave, I noticed that too, wasn’t too noticeable in the car but after watching the videos I noticed that too. Just got the trans back, I messed up, when I put the new shifter in the throw was the opposite of the old one so I was actually leaving in direct drive.

@@johnfiore91 That will do it, and your probably not the only one that has done that ether.

@@davidaarons2488you were spot on!

@@johnfiore91 I was a auto tech for over 25yrs and thank the Lord my ears still work. I watch ya and if I can hear or see something I will help. Glad ya found it and now ya can let it eat. Hope all is well.

@@davidaarons2488 thanks man!!!

@@davidaarons2488 thanks man, it is hydraulic, this one came from a dirt Modified. Coleby Frye drives one and had one in stock at his shop which turned out great as you saw.

Can’t wait to watch it rip!

It’s a winters 2 speed external clutch late model trans for now but will likely move to a sequential for Pikes Peak. The TTI 5 speed will fit and work great but it’s a 10-12k investment unfortunately.

Exactly what I thought, better there than at a hillclimb. I’ll cover the clutch soon, I want the shifter to be ironed out completely first though.

Thank you!

Thanks brother!

I agree, I think the root problem is that there is something wrong with the clutch installation or it needs some kind of adjustment. I hope my late model buddy can stop over before the race to help me sort it out.

@@johnfiore91 Oh yes, they run them and multiply disk clutches also

Like your build. Was curious to why you didn’t use a traditional Jacob’s ladder instead of the watts linkage? Looks very well laid out and built. Good luck on the race!!

Thanks man, the rear end housing wouldn’t allow for a traditional Jacob’s ladder since it’s a closed tube late model rear. Had to use that so I can have the limited slip differential.

@@johnfiore91 makes sense. Didn’t figure in the limited slip diff. I too have always wanted to do a sprint car up pikes peak, I went on vacation up there and got altitude sickness so I don’t think I could do it. I’ll stick to my dirt stuff locally for fun as I’m getting older and would not ever have the funds anyway. I look forward to watching your Journey. 👍👍👍

I can’t wait either, coming soon enough! I appreciate the support!

It would be very hard to beat “The Green Demon” Damian Gardner’s record at 211 mph but the experience in it self would be epic, it would also be very expensive though lol

Thank you so much, I appreciate you noticing the details, only racers, especially sprint car racers would know what it has taken, 99% of the car is different from a conventional sprint car. It’s for that reason that I started this build series.

Good advice again! Good thing this one has the s bend for the tire at the one end so it’s kind of idiot proof for me lol. Not sure if you do already or not but we always taped around the drag link straps on the frame and drag link which could prevent it spinning off. Do you still run?

@@johnfiore91 i cant wait to see this car run in anger. Very very cool machine.

That’s good advice but it’s not how to measure the car that I’m worried about, that I’ve done too many times than I wanted to unfortunately lol, it’s the actual measurements for squaring, blocking, desired ride heights, etc. I have help with bars and shocks from Frank’s Shocks and Newlin Bar Service I’m fortunate to say. We’re making it turn both left and right so there isn’t any data and we have to start from scratch mostly. I like using a piece of aluminum angle off the motor plate for squaring, what’s your favorite thing to use and what class?

Hope you’re doing better! I did see your last comment, it was after I mounted the new arm but great minds think alike! lol, and it’s a twin disc 7” clutch from Quartermaster.

Hope you’re doing better, the flipped arm worked out great!

That’s correct sir! The ECU does learn as far as tuning goes but you still have to tune a lot of things besides the fuel mapping such as, turning the fans on at a certain temp, idle speed, etc. What’s nice is I can use the gauge screen to change things like that. I did use the Holley HP ECU for that reason though, it’ll help with elevation changes at Pikes.

@@johnfiore91 Good call, was at Pikes Peak when I was 39yrs old and that alt, effected me. Good luck

Can’t wait to race with you!

93 pump gas right now, will be race E85 soon, it’s running a base global file tune so that will require more work, it’s a stock gen 4 5.3 with 799 heads and better valves and valve train, stock bottom end, big camotion cam. I believe the 799 heads make 10.5:1 . This combo should be around 425-500whp. It will be rebuilt for Pikes Peak and will have twin turbos that should make 800+ whp. At least that’s the plan! lol

Thanks man!!!

Gen 4 5.3

@@johnfiore91 What'd ya have to do, bump the timing fwd a tad? Sounded awesome.

@@T0mmyTune I had a bad ground and lose plug wire. Easy fix after diagnosing.

Very kind words, thank you so much!

Yes it is! Currently a 2 speed late model trans with a 7” external clutch. Hope to have a sequential some day.