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We need a movie adaptation of the trawn/ascendency books

I read these books when they came out and I loved them dearly. I have passed them onto my boys and have never shown them the three 'sequels' they made. They have seen Rogue One and seen a few of the TV shows but I never watched the last film and only half of The Last Jedi and I knew it was garbage. Disney had the opportunity to make a Trilogy based on these books that would have really renewed and revived the world of Star Wars. It was the perfect blueprint to expand into the the Star Wars Universe and bring back new excitement for both the old and the new series. Instead Disney cast it aside and did their own dumb thing. They could have saved so much money and time just sticking with these books. Thrawn was my all time favorite villain for years. He was so clever and strategic and calculating that it was always a joy to read these stories. Great video, by the way.

The Thrawn Trilogy is excellent!

I feel like the Meatbag name was taken from HK in Knights of the Old Republic.

This was a compelling and stimulating essay. My comments fall mostly into disagreement, but I both learned from and was entertained by the video. Great job! But… Mara Jade is an interesting character except for three things: 1. There is zero, and I mean zero, chemistry between her and Luke. Zahn is great at creating characters and very good at plotting. His writing is reliably solid and occasionally quite good. But he has some shortcomings, and relationships are probably his weakest area. Not just romantic relationships either - he has trouble conveying friendships too. If anyone ever read the Heir To The Empire trilogy without having seen SW, they’d be at a total loss for why, say, Han and Lando are friends. Not because of the lack of history, but because of how they speak to one another, and how they interact in general. And the relationship between Mara and Luke really suffers from this problem. 2. Mara’s motivation to kill Luke makes no sense, but all the other characters behave and speak as though it does. Sure, we eventually learn why she’s so single minded about it, but her stated reasons boils down to her losing her job. It was just…laughable. I had no sympathy for her whatsoever, and I could never understand why the other characters didn’t immediately call her on it. 3. Mara is, SURPRISE, implied to be ridiculously beautiful. True, Zahn doesn’t describe her every last curve. And maybe you could argue the Emperor recruited her for her looks, but that’s not what the book says at all. And whether or not Zahn spells it out for us, certainly every inch of cover art depicts her as a cat-suited buxom babe. So it’s just a tired trope reflecting the fantasies of a typical straight mail author, and it makes her relationship with Luke even more like something from a pulp romance novel. As for Leah and Han…I found their relationship almost as weak and unconvincing as any of the others. You read a lovely passage, but it’s at best an isolated and unconnected sentiment. It’s notable more for its rarity than its continuity. And as revelation or explanation, it’s unsupported except by solicited leaps of the readers’ imagination. As well, we don’t get any insights into Han that might validate why he would care about those - almost any other - qualities in Leah; in fact, much of his persona seems neutral at best to what we are supposed to “know” about her. And that problem, again, is reflected in nearly all the characters in the story. None of them, with the arguable exceptions of Luke and Karrde, have an appreciable depth of personality. Even Thrawn, brilliant a character as he certainly is, fails to translate under the weight of current standards of what makes a great villain. For all his acumen and refreshing differences from other SW antagonists, he’s motivations are uninspired and cartoonish. All of this makes sense, however, since Zahn was obviously much younger and unseasoned in many of the nuances he thankfully displays in most of his more recent novels. Just as he’s done away with his too-frequent call backs to the films that pepper the Heir trilogy, his characters now have much greater depth.

I hope you’re still planning on writing more essays, and that your interest in Thrawn has led you to what REALLY happens to Thrawn after Rebels, the brilliant fanfic, Last Known Trajectory.

Those original Thrawn books - specifically an audio recording of The Last Command - were my very first introduction to Star Wars, and they went a long way towards shaping my understandings of the Star Wars universe. Thrawn is a great villain. He's definitely a bad guy, something even Zahn himself seems to have forgotten in later books. But the cool thing about him is that he's a truly Machiavellian bad guy, who doesn't revel in power and cruelty for their own sake, or indulge in his own personal aggrandizement and ego-protection at the expense of pursuing his larger goals. This makes him pretty unique among Star Wars villains, and it means he's generally not inclined to make the same sorts of classic mistakes they tend to fall into. Mara Jade is one of my all-time favorite Star Wars characters, and I would say these three books constitute her finest outing. Because of her hatred of Luke and the circumstances of the books' action, she's riddled with internal conflicted for the bulk of the story, in a way I find particularly delicious. She's still great in *most* of her later appearances, but without that internal conflict, her character is missing one of her layers. Also, you refer to Mara as Luke's love interest, and I adore their relationship together in later books, but I also deeply appreciate how they're really not romantic in these three. Given where the two of them start at beginning of "Heir to the Empire," a romance between her and Luke by the end of the cycle would've been incongruous. I respect how Legends took its time and built up toward them becoming a couple over many years in-universe, as I think it makes their eventual romantic connection all the more plausible and enjoyable. My understanding is that Lucasfilm has decreed living creatures can't push away the Force, which makes sense philosophically, because if the Force constitutes life and all life comes from the Force, then living beings without the Force or that project anti-Force should be impossible. So this is why ysalamiri and their unique properties haven't appeared in the Disney canon. You could maybe do a work-around by saying they just push back a Jedi or other magic-wielder's ability to tap *into* the Force, but even that seems like it would take a lot of cosmological explaining, so I guess I don't blame the Story Group from saying "Never mind, it's just not a thing in the new continuity." Don't get me wrong, I agree the ysalamiri are cool, and the storytelling opportunities their abilities open up, but I can also sympathize with the reasoning behind relegating them to permanent Legends status

"I don't care. They killed my mom." -Tony Skywalker

In Disney thrawn it's not smart, he has to use witches to solve his problems instead of his brains.

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0:18 You say that, but I doubt you ever read much Marvel or DC. XD

Great video

Thrawn is probably my secoms favouritr SW character

I had a lot of pacing issues with The Thrawn Trilogy, especially with the second book. HOWEVER. It had a vision and stuck to it, and that alone makes it better than Disney. It wasn't just a rehash of the original Trilogy, telling its own story and standing just fine on its own two feet. Was very happy to have read them.

" I would like to introduce you all to Grand Admiral Prawn, the galaxie's deadliest punching shrimp, here to bring order to the insurrection of the pitiful dancing crabs, who dared to defy the Empire, with the might of our Empirial Navy! " - Emperor Palpatine

The Dark Side there can only be one. Is most fookish that gives me eveything.

When some ine stsnds up abd says Im God, we all die. Ok, please.

Princess Leah never be Queen. Kearn that sex with daddy is not a loypop thing.

Nuclear be held over you. I can scence it, I i allow. Only.

Priness Leah us oegnant with twins, party time, please.

Emperor is your half sister and Aunty.

We are playing 21 , Priness Leah has decided to Split at sex with Daddy.

Medical study takes up all our spare time, please.

Our family is curxed Thrawl and we need our privacy, please.

Because evryone is dead.

One can be a God and rule over scorpians.

All three Thrawn Trilogies are great. The Legends 1 and the Canon 2. I do prefer the original, but I love book 1 of the Canon Thrawn Trilogy.

Was. Disney killed SW

That was the sequel we should have gotten; the sequel we deserved. In the books and in a lesser extent, Thrawn is scary. Like Spock with with a beard.

Dude you butchered his name. It’s pronounced Sah-Bioth ruclips.net/video/4p8_uan2AsQ/видео.htmlsi=JQ7ubFY32EICg0rT

All Disney had to do was adapt the Thrawn Trilogy for the big screen. It was that easy

At this point, I don't trust anything to come out of Disney's Star Wars. There has been good, from the finishing of The Clone Wars to even certain other shows. But the people who make the content don't see Star Wars as anything other then a means to push their own ideas, and Acolyte is a prime example of it. I've been reading through the books myself quite a bit and more and more I just find myself getting more and more angry/annoyed with Disney. I liked Rogue One a lot because it gave us a "this is more of what's happening" feel. But sadly only that show seemed to have pulled it off and come out untouched or bruised

It was never meant to be infinite. Only the universe can be infinite, and whatever is outside the universe. Star Wars had a very specific beginning, middle and end, and part of the reason why it was destroyed is because of fans Who don’t know how to let go of something and move onto something else.

I love the audio books

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You deserve more subs, this was really well done

I have not read the legend books, but I've read a few of the cannon books by the same author. I always admired how Thrawn treated his crew.

A what "ex machina machine" ?? Ouch.

Captain Pellaeon is one of the most underrated yet consequential imperial characters in the whole EU. Ultimately rising himself to the rank of Grand Admiral and leading the fractured Empire back together and into peace with the New Republic. His presence in the trilogy is very endearing to read as he's basically the Watson to the Thrawn's Sherlock Holmes.

Could you cover the swarm wars

Maul: Hmm I don’t remember anyone having much of any opinion of him when Episode I came out, not good or bad. He was very slight. Personally I thought the guy looked like a generic Halloween costume you’d see in a catalog. He barely said a word, and while the double bladed saber is pretty neat, it’s not exactly a character trait. And then he was hacked in half.

Disney shill

Thrawn was incredibly smart. If Palpy had just listened to him and used Death Star resources on the Imperial Fleet, the empire would have never fallen.

Disney threw out millions of dollars by not doing these books as movies. Talk about stupid.

To me, this IS the canon continuity of SW. Everything Disney's filthy fingerprints on it is nothing but expensive fanfiction.

Wait... if Thrawn would've transported those creatures, wouldn't they have negated the force powers of Ahsoka and her companions if their abilities added up?