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Try tuning your bottom head of snare drum to an F# or G then tune the top head to where your ears like it. I find it to be a great snare drum tuning process. I used to tune reso up to G# but lately I find the F# to have more breath to it if that makes sense ha haaa. Lower snare sound top head c# higher tuning D# sharp. Usually anywhere in between those tunings sound awesome. Take care and thanks for checking out my awful video lol 🥁🔥

Thank you. I’ve been obsessed with drum tuning for many years. Still am it always seems to change a bit. Thanks for checking out the poor quality video ha haaa and I hope it helped with anything. I love these drums. Recently I took down the 10 tom and just have 12 14 and that changed and started an entirely new set of tuning problems but I got it dialed in ha haaaaa 🥁🔥

Hi there. Let me see try 163 top 174 bottom that will give you a G I believe. One step lower would be F# so top 154 bottom 164 and one step above the G would be G# 173 top 184 bottom. Try those out see if it works for you. Sorry for a long late response I just saw your comment. Thanks for checking out the videos I know they are awful quality but just sharing any helpful info I can.

Hey what’s up. Sorry just seeing this question here I literally just today found a setting I liked for the 12 as I’m 12 up and 14 down now. Top is 178Hz bottom is 207Hz open note is 115hz I think it’s an A or a sharp A. I tune my snare c# or d over F# reso so I found this Tom tuning to be as close as I can get it to not reacting with the 12 tom. I do get snare buzz but it’s the best I can get it at a minimum. Take care 🔥🥁hope this helps.

Hi thank you very much. This is such an old video and now that I actually own a supraphonic I should make a new one. I unfortunately do not use Bonham tunings for my Tom’s but if you look up a video by Jeff Ochaltree (I own the dvd lol) he teched for Bonham for an album and he has a green sparkle kit all tuned up and he goes through the entire kit. If your ears are good you can put in headphones and try tuning your heads to the video as he taps tops and bottoms with a mallet. This is pretty much how I came up with this snare tuning it was from this video and trying to copy the tuning. Then with the tune-bot I was able to figure out what I had just done lol. Hope this helps you out. Take care have a great weekend.

That’s awesome it’s the best when you get it dialed in. I have to try the cotton balls out I’ve been curious to try it out🔥🥁

I usually tend to go higher on bottom but that is just me. That combo would prob work good for that size tom that way you don’t get the bawwwwwmmmnnnn pitch bend. If it sounds good to you then that is the right decision. I have a 14x14 X shell DW and my bottom is an A-A# so around 117 hz - to 120hz bottom I now go around 120hz - -124hz on the top just for the feel of when I play it and it just brings the pitch up enough to we’re I like it. So sound and feel are what you should aim for no rules no right or wrong

This floor Tom’s tuning was also based on a large kit. 8 10 12 14 16 so I went in intervals around a 4th to 5th apart I believe this was a long time ago and the kit is gone unfortunately I sold it. So if there were less drums I may have tuned it differently

Gees I’m sorry I do not remember this video was from like 8 years ago buuuuut I can look on my tunebot and get back Roy you I think it’s still the same now as it was then. Do you want Hz for each head example top bottom open for each drum?!

Thanks man I’ll try that out. I no longer have that kit but my DW kit the 10 reso I believe is 220 which is a B then I go just a semi tone on batter. I’ve recently gone to a one up setup which totally changed how I tune the 12 and I had to bring the 14 up a bit too. I love drums take care. I have a bunch more shitty videos like this on my channel wish I had quality recordings and sound. This is all on a zoom recorder

I don’t remember off hand I believe it was 4 ounces thinner to a quart roughly. I recently switched to megavar conversion varnish where you add the catalyst or whatever it is and wow HUGE difference. I think my biggest problem was the temperature it was winter in Buffalo in a non heated un insulated garage. I had to fire up propane heaters while I prepped and sprayed it would get hot but I’d leave and shut it down and it would get freezing cold. I also sprayed some ML Cambell conversion varnish in a professional spray shop and wow crazy how different it is with a nice machine and gun to spray out of. That product dries flawless and sands like glass. I also learned a lot about priming it has to be heavy or two coats sanding in between.

Hey yes I’m sorry about that it’s an old shitty video that I thought I’d share after messing around for a bit trying out different tunings. It should all be listed in the video description. I was using a zoom recorder to make the entire video which was mounted up in the basement ceiling

Sorry it’s not listed I just checked. Top is around 300 for a D and 320 for a D sharp and bottom is 400 for around G# and 380 for around F#

Was it on ganibets?

What did you do to fix it after bubbles?

@@jorgerivas9167 it was on entry doors. I sanded them down and coated with shellac then sprayed my laquer.

Undercoaters are related to conversation varnish, Primers Undercoaters Sand an sealers Are 3 different types. Have to do your homework.

Dude that sucks. This was my first time dealing with this issue of being told I could use a latex primer and spray lacquer over it. My rep thinking I was talking about spraying water based lacquer. The one guy I would ask questions to told me that he sprays that lenmar primer over anything. Shellac is probably the best thing or a sanding sealer just to be safe.

Thanks bro much appreciated

No sorry vinyl primer for lacquer, y'all do it yourself dudes watch way too much RUclips.

@@mikeevangelista1177hello brother I spray lacquer primer on top the urethane paint do you think that will work?

@@andryjcisneros2334 hello I hope it works. Maybe just try one piece or a small area to be safe. I used that lenmar lacquer primer on top of urethane paint and it worked

@@mikeevangelista1177 thank you so much brother I sprayed last night and feels good

Just lacquer thinner nothing fancy I couldn’t find anything like a conditioner that slows the drying time anywhere so I haven’t experimented with any of that. I use the thinner to clean up also

I have recently used the megavar conversion varnish you have to add the solvent to it or catalyst whatever it’s called for it to harden and dry and I’ll tell ya it blows lenmar lacquer out of the water. Same company makes it but it’s waaaaayyyyyyy better and easier to use. Try it out if you can. Also I sprayed ML Cambel conversion varnish and primer and wow that stuff dries flawless it’s an awesome product.

Ya man for sure it’s always good to tune it up then down because it’s going to loosen up as we hit it. Same theory involved I guess

Me too bro me too haven’t played since this show March 2020

Awwww thanks man it’s such shitty quality I wish I could have done better but I’m happy it’s helped out man. All the best drum away 🥁🔥

@@mikeevangelista1177 Dude, the information you provided far outweighs the quality of the video. I mean that! I was thinking about buying a new snare because I couldn't get mine to sound right. This video changed that! Straight up, man! Thank you!

That’s great sorry it’s such an old shitty video I’m going to make a new one with a supraphonic soon so happy it worked for your snare sound all the best

That is the question I feel ya. Before I had DWs I had to figure this out also. What I did was took ALL the hardware off the drums lugs everything down to just the shell and brand badge hold it like John Good does and give the shells a side fist tap and compare it to notes on a key board or a guitar or tuner kind of thing and find what the note is. Once you’ve done that you can make sure your kit shells are in tune with themselves in intervals example my kit goes like from ten to twelve 6 semi tones down then 5 from 12-14 then like 8 -9 for the kick. If your kit shells dont have a good interval you can get a problem drum I had a mapex Saturn 8 10 12 14 16 22 the 14 floor was mounted and 12 deep and that drum would not resonate with the kit dinggggggg dangggggg dooooommmm bonk booooooom dooooooooooooom ha haaaaaa move the 14 away from the kit it was a cannnon take away the 12 and 16 the 14 sounded huge it was weird but that’s what timbre matching is about. Anyway that’s how you can determine the pitch of the shell and most drums are all in the ball park pitch wise. Hope this makes sense and if you do this it’s not worth doing it to the kick just tune the kick to follow the sequence of notes.

@@mikeevangelista1177 i have 2 yamaha stage customs from the 90s. Tom sizes 10 12 14 . . . 22kick . . what do you recommend intervals between each drum should be?

@@friedpickles342 shit well it depends what style your playing but I like 5 semi tones give or take between it gives each drum space to be it’s own sound and has a nice scale but that what my ears like now remember that would be the notes of the bottom heads being 5-6 semi tones apart the overall note if the drum when you hit it may about 7 semi tones or notes between again give or take how you tune the top if any of that makes sense ha haaaaa. Honestly just start with your 10 and tune the bottom to how you want your drum to sound in your head then do that to 12 and 14 if you have a tunebot you can see the note as well hertz and you can then determine from the 10 down to the 12 keeping it 5-7 notes lower. The twelve may sound better 4 notes down and the 14 6 notes down or vice versa but after your bottom heads are a nice scale then tune up the tops until the drum sounds good to what your ears want to play. The tunebot has saved me sooooooooo much aggravation and time because I can save the settings for top bottom open so I retune up in minutes not hours and is the bottom head out or top head? I used to only seem to focus on the top head but the bottom was out too. Reso head is very important that it’s tuned evenly remember we smack the top head so it’s naturally going to detune over time but that bottom head will carry the tone in my opinion. I took a Sonor s Classix kit apart 8 10 12 14 16 and tried to timbre match technique to find the notes of the shells even though oddly they had a letter stamped in each one that turned out to be the note anyway I just had to know. I remember the 8 being a way bigger higher up note then the rest of the kit. I’ve heard John good refer th 8s always being pitched high hence x shells and vlt which my kit has it’s a vlt toms x floor and a vlx+ kick 20 it’s fn amazing I’ve never went away from a 20 after my laying this bass drum. Anyway back in topic I hope any of this helps you and makes sense. Good luck and happy tuning

@@friedpickles342 also if you look up the tunebot calculator it gives you settings for tuning configurations of kits see each drum is roughly pitched the same some a bit high some low but matching the entire kit I think really makes sense for overall sound. But ya there is a threshold for each drum and a ballpark pitch it should be check out the tunebot calculator and if you don’t have a tunebot they are worth it takes a second to figure it out and learn to trouble shoot if your getting an off reading. For done reason and I’ve had 2 the same do the same thing but the lug to my immediate right if the tuner sometimes just gives me a totally different note or reading like way off so I have to pick it up and move it down and boom perfect so shit like that can happen. That’s more with a snare bottom or top not to much with toms but sometimes. Take care please don’t hesitate to ask more questions if I’m confusing you in any way. Some people tune the bottom head to pitch then tune the top 1 or 2 or 3 notes lower like say your snare bottom head F# or G to G# and your top head d to a d sharp for medium to medium high

@@mikeevangelista1177 I'm in s cover band. We normally play rock/alternative music. I've had alot of time to kill recently. And I've been tweeking around with my drums alot lately. I do own a tunebot also use one of those phone apps. Which are just as good as tunebot. Anyways. I've noticed that the 12 and 14 ince toms seem to cancel each other out when mounted on the same stand. More like the 12 is messing with the 14 floor tom resonance. I remove the 12 and the 14 rings like a bell. I use the 1 up 2 down set up. The 14 floor tom is legless. .

Do you mean you cannot see the tuner? It’s in view sorry if it’s hard to see it’s a very old video I should make new ones sorry if you did not find this helpful or interesting it’s just how I tuned that drum at that time and there are no mics just a hand held digital recorder

@@mikeevangelista1177 Thanks for the response Mike. What I meant to say was I couldn’t-see the tun bot in the last half of the video. Not a big problem I was just so interested in what you were doing I wanted to see all of it. Very informative video and I like your style

@@boblenzen7490 wow thanks for the kind words maybe I should make some updated videos with some better footage

They are different but I like them as for Camco drums I’ve never played a set but I know CCR drummer used them and I like his sound. Take care

Jake Gibson sorry the video is so shit ha haa but hopefully somewhat informative

mike evangelista the video was excellent.

Chuck O thank you for the kind words. These videos are old and not the greatest but if it helps anyone great. I’ve been using a mallet for awhile also works great and saves the finger ha haaaaa. If you get a tough drum the rim can takes it toll on our poor finger. All the best hopefully I have some new videos soon. If your bored and want to watch some of my cover band shit check out my playlist for zep tributes and 5 foot giant. Thanks later

William Mills hey thanks in that video it’s the DW coated clear stock heads with the stock clear bottoms. I’ve since used Evans and Remo single ply coated

@@mikeevangelista1177 i have to get me a set of dws. Collector series. I have a pearl road show. Right now. I am going to try a different head on them. To see what's up. What would you recommend?

William Mills hey pearl makes a great drum. I had an export kit for like 12 years maybe more. Depends what sound your looking for really. You can’t go wrong with Evans coated G12 on tops and a clear or coated G1 on the bottoms or if your a remo guy ambassador x I think is the same thickness as G12. I find them to be right between a single and double ply head. I like Remo but I’ve tried Evans and man does that level 360 technology really work. The head just sits flat whereas the remos wiggle and feel tight. Anyway hope this helps you out and tuning is key for your sound good heads or not

Berj hey it’s the resonant or bottom head that would be tuned to a G. Anywhere from an E to an A I think is a good tension for reso heads. E being less tension and A being high tight tension. I’ve come to favour F# for my snares and then usually D -D# for the batter. This video refers to the overall sound being a G or G# when you hit the drum. Find what sound you like. Try tuning or tensioning bottom head to a G it’s a common ground tuning. It allows your snares to make good contact and respond well then tune or tension top or batter head to where you like it to sound. For me a D is a bit low sounding say medium tension and down from there for a big fat sound usually needing some type of muffling and up from a D to get a nice crack tight sound. In drum tuning or tensioning there is no right or wrong just what gets you the sound you want. Hope this helps you out or answers your question. Yes in my opinion G cranked up on the batter top head would be crazy tight but if it’s the sound one desires then it’s perfect for them. 🥁 🥁 🥁

setitfree78 thank you that’s very kind. The video is awful ha ha but it keeps his spirit and my memories alive. The tung oil really enhanced the colour of the stain and brought them back to life. Not that they looked bad before they weren’t old and beat up or anything and it was a risky project if I screwed them up I would have been pissed ha haaa. Again thanks for the kind words 🥁 🥁

Edson Picasso the TUNEBOT is a great tool to save your tunings you like so you can retune after any situation like lots of playing or new heads. Also once you tune by ear or feel you can use the tunebot to tweak in anything that may be off. Remember I’m using no mics this is just a zoom HD recorder and if you watch my DW all tuned up video you will hear the kit being played again with just the zoom recorder mic and you’ll hear how good the kit sounds. Take care have a great day

@@mikeevangelista1177 Yeah it's good for saving and the added accuracy. However if a drummer has pitch capable ears he can get away without. Won't be as accurate as the tunebot lug to lug though. Still considering to get one or stick with my ears. I've tuned drums to just feel and experimentation. There are tunings that stray away from the tunebot settings which I did manually following the tunebot calculator. I googled a free frequency calculator online and used a phone tuner tone generator to match the pitches to the frequencies suggested. This works if you have the pitch correct ear. But it's a tedious task. Not completely useless to drummers that can tune by ear. It's accuracy and saving function that you pay for. For a tone deaf drummer. It's a godsend. To me? I'm thinking about it for now. I saw Virgil Donati and Thomas Lang pre clinic tuning drums. They just tapped and tuned by ear. It was so fast. They sounded great.

Lol.. John Good.. Can't understand why people fall prey to his hype.

matty jazzy I get them at a music store in Canada but it’s weird that guitar center doesn’t have them. I’m sure any music store could order one in it’s called a tunebot but I’m sure you already know. Love them really helps fine tune and u can save settings for each head for easy retune

@@mikeevangelista1177 cool...I need to move back home to montreal! I might try amazon...they have everything. I also use moongel to get rid of overtones...if you're lookin to do that, check it out

Billy Nolan well thanks for your opinion. Obviously the video and my recorder doesn’t give the drum justice. The kit has 3 rack Toms and two floor so if I just get rid of wrinkles the entire kit will sound the same. Maybe watch the all tuned up video and let me know what you think. I was going for a specific sound. Your way works for you my way works for me. I do not tell you or anyone how to tune drums just show how I tune mine. Trusting the ears is one thing if your ear is trained. I was going for specific pitches for an entire kit and sometimes when you trust your ear it can be off and you may get weird overtones but if your just going for some low wrinkles out tuning which I have done then yes that works for a specific sound. A drum to you may just be a drum but to me it’s an art a creation a living organism communication and so much more. If you played that Tom and I played it it’s possible that it would sound different no two drummers are alike. Just for the record listen to the s classix all tuned up video and you’ll see it doesn’t sound like ass it sounds fucking awesome and right where I wanted it to sound. I made a birch shell resonate for days. I like women and I like their asses so if your referring to my Tom sounding like a sweet firm shapely ass then thanks. 🥁 on

Billy I agree ear tuning is always best .

Janetski top 300ish bottom 400-412

Janetski bottom for wood shell 355-380 works and tune to taste for top