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Two friends. One older. One younger. The older says the younger does not contact me but she knows I care and that I'm here for her. The younger says the older does not contact me but she knows I care and that I'm here for her. It's a bit like my laptop that just froze and needed a reboot.

We have to stop caring about INFJs who disappear. It’s a really bad ENFJ habit to looking to love and help and care for the loners. We have to leave them alone if they leave us alone. They know we care about loyalty as much as they do and they still walk away. They know exactly what they’re doing. Only hurting ourselves. Our big Fe lets us care about people who don’t even like us. Waste of time and energy.

My best friend for ages is an ENFJ and I'm an INFJ! 😊

I estimate I'm a 5 and find it difficult to determine what the non-5 part of me is. It's easier for me to determine what I am not. 4s tend to be described or identified with feeler types. Maybe there is a thinker type 4. It's the independent aspect of 4 I relate to but I don't relate to the 4s desire to be unique. However given my type I do see little worth in ideas already thought. But this also depends on context. I'm currently learning to play chess, not by re-inventing the wheel but by learning from others. On the other hand I see in myself that with any new arena I first observe to learn what others have done or thought or believed and then after some indeterminate time I let go of what I have learned and go my own way. Also 4s are described as creative. In many respects I am not at all creative. Certainly not artistically or musically creative, but there is a force within me that drives me to explore what has not been thought or believed before.

80% of the time ENFJs have no time?

Do some use the words trust and loyal interchangeably? i.e. When they say can I trust you are they saying will you be loyal to me? To some these are two different questions. To some these are the same question. And your problem reminds me of the stress of serving two masters; and has it depressed you somewhat or evoked within you some self doubt? This too will pass. You are generous with your time and I'm sure if you did not share your insights you would be much missed. ENFJs are rare on youtube and therefore your sharing all the more valuable. Nothing is valued so much as when it is lost. Over many years I have observed that there are those who trust the people they know easily and not strangers, and those who trust strangers easily but not the people they know.

To misquote Yoda, fear is the dark side and difficult to see clearly these things are. But surely the NTPs are the iconoclasts and devils advocate in the abstract world.

What's with ENFJ 4s that have these amazing art skills 😍

They are Socionics Duality.

Enfj here, for me if you ask me I will tell you without hesitating. I've had people I like think I didn't and people I don't like think I do but yeah for me if you ask me I'll let you know.

Totally off topic, even for me, but just watching a chess video and I think you'll be fascinated that it is two feeler types (in my assessment) discussing chess moves. They use words like happy, worry, comfortable. They ask how would you feel about this move? The video is by a chess vlogger called lurarobs and is Beginner Chess Lessons Episode 1 that she posted 10 months ago.

I notice in myself those I listen to and those I don't, or more accurately those whose words I engage with my thinking function and those I listen to like listening to sonic wall paper as though hearing the sounds without thinking and I notice those who please me and those who annoy me. There are many ways my brain interacts with words some of which surprise me. I noticed that just as most conflict occurs between similar species of animal so I am in conflict with those who most closely match myself. I noticed this when for a while I listened to astrology monologues because I found them relaxing because my brain did not engage with the content. So for me there are those who stimulate my Ti and those who don't. For me the most 'persuasive' are those who engage my Ti who are those whose every word I wish to listen to and I don't wish to miss a word. i.e. they persuade me to listen to every word and my mind does not wander within me. But this is not about doing or thinking or believing, its receiving the words. I notice in the last few decades the saying what would Jesus do became common. It's not a question I ask nor do I seek an answer. But I do frequently ask what is he thinking. For me it's so much about thinking and the absence of thinking and the process of thinking and to do what another says is in a sense a form of detachment for me in the sense of I can't be bothered to think about it. I don't listen as part of an audience because I don't identify as being one with an audience, however, I've also noticed when interacting one to one with NFJs regarding some things, it is as though their words go into me, or I allow their words to go into me without resistance, or to put it another way, I am less frequently offended by NFJs so as to prevent their words entering myself. Maybe this happens when the NFJ is not engaging my Ti. In fact I could not often say of myself 'I am persuaded that...' or 'I am convinced that...' as I prefer not to hold onto ways of doing or thinking, or if I hold only them I do so until the next exploration, like I am a sail boat content to continue on the same path until something changes. I can see how and that ENFJs are the persuaders, which reminds me of a TV series I enjoyed as a young boy captured by the John Barry opening theme music. The persuasive power of music.

I enjoy being surprised by surprising ideas and discoveries.

For decades I have noticed in myself and others the use of the possessive pronouns and prefer to avoid using them. What is my thoughts, my beliefs, my self, my house, my friend, my wife etc. What is her thoughts, her beliefs, her self, her house, her friend, her husband etc and needless to say the concept of my nation or my country or my tribe is utterly beyond my comprehension. I prefer not to exert right of ownership over things. I prefer to welcome what is unbound and free and always leave a way open for escape for them to go and come again. For this reason or to practice this I have avoided house and land ownership in preference to renting, and I was at a certain time alarmed and depressed for three days after I made my largest purchase of my life to that date. Over a thousand dollars for a hand crafted silk weaved carpet 4 foot by 6 foot., though I later spent much more than this on a laptop and then on a second bike and kit for bike-packing. A kind of fantasy I have had since my working life began is to own nothing or only what I am able to carry on my back, and now I am older and have gone through the process of disposing of a parents house and possessions after their death, I have an even stronger preference for non-ownership of stuff and regret having purchased so many books in my 30s. I am of course now making purchases for Christmas and during black Friday, the latter because I cannot take it with me and there are no pockets in shrouds (an NF expression?).

Enfj are just followers and will do anything to be cool. Had one tell me that they’re were fake towards everyone and matched everyone’s energy. Even told me that they were extra nice to the smartest kid in class so that person would help them cheat. But when I brought this up online I just get told that they are using they’re resources at a appropriate manner.

W9w i been subscribed since 2021 and havent seen your videos untill now

I was competitive in the arena of school grades and valued my position in the school grade ranking. In a sense I now see all achievement or that is seen as an achievement as the desire to defeat a part of the self and experience peace and contentment in incompleteness and joy in the moment I do not complete something. Does achievement by definition require the completion of something? One of the first times I consciously cultivated incompleteness was the leaving of one piece of a jigsaw puzzle unplaced. Another was my decision before I began peddling that I would not cone near to touch the 'end of' sign but after cycling 2200+ miles but chose instead to cycle 99.99% of the route. Before this I engaged in much hiking for a number of years and summited 200+ peaks of a nationally recognised list. As I neared the last few dozen unclimbed peaks, I decided to leave one peak unclimbed. I saw in myself that completing the list so to speak would not lead to peace of mind but only agitation. I had observed many hikers once they had summited all the peaks in the list had a great celebration as they stood on the last peak ... and after they had descended, the next year they began ticking off the list of summits from the beginning again. I assume I am one of many millions in the world who experience the joy of non-attainment via incompleteness. I see the eternal as eternally incomplete. In this way I see the eternal and eternity as delightful and I live as I intend to go on. How do those who value completeness and closure experience the prospect or concept of a never-ending incompleteness? Is this as the man said which of you is willing (are there any willing) to begin building what you are not able to finish or to begin pulling down what you are not able to destroy? As with many things he said, it was genius in its ambiguity and I imagine it divided the people at the end of the day and for much more than a thousand years some have thought and spoken and read about what he said so that some said it is foolish to start what we are not able to finish, and I assume there have been more than one who said we are willing to begin something we have no ability to complete and do not mind whether we are mocked as foolish for doing so. Indeed I now prefer that which cannot be completed over that which can be completed and to practice this leave incomplete that which I might otherwise com

It took me 2 months of not reaching out after 3 months of on/off pleading before I was able to get a neutral response to asking how they were doing. After a few more questions about how her kids were doing and how our shared rescue dog was doing, I clearly overstayed my welcome. I miss her terribly and feel we never got the right help when things got difficult in the last 2 years. I can't force forgiveness and a reconciliation. I can only work on myself and hope maybe it comes back around in a few months. Don't think it's healthy to wait around forever.

I don't think it's about women or men, I'm a man and my gf is an FA and it's painful because I still get attached.

Lmao! There are 0 unspoken words between entj and enfj. Both are team over self. They are actual a power couple to be reconed with. I saw an enfj infj couple on yt and they are amazing. I would only mesh with another entj as that is my soulmate but i love intj and intp and enfj as teammates they are amazing!

Ur sweet to help the couple. As entj i love love love enfj. They are my fav f and fj type. They are the most fun by far.

Ur so much more diplomatic than i. I love the fj they are sweet but omg sensitive. Its exhausting to worry about fj feeling. Fp are so much more than i can handle.

Thats interesting and pans out from what i have also seen.

Lol neither can shut up but enfp never shut up about how the world screwed them over and enfj never shut up about how great everyone is. There is your easy distinction point

Nice work. You must know a real one. Lots of estp like to think they are entj but we are team over self and estp are self over team so if you see an entj being selfish thats not an entj its an estp.

I think that its easy to bombard the fa with emails and texts begging to be close again. Thats not what the fa wants. They may just need time to process theit thoights and emotions. If they really love you and want to build a strong relationship with you, they will.

Yes, the answer to expectations about anything and from anyone is to do to a person the things I want that person to do to me. They are more likely to show or tell me whether they want to do it to me if I do that thing to them. What I hear people say is that they expect others to do to them what they have not already done or if they say they have already done it then they may have done something similar but not the same. If someone tells me that someone else has not spoken to them for a long time, I might ask what they want, and if they say I want them to speak to me, I might say speak to them after a long time and they might speak to you after a long time; do not speak to them after a long time and they might not speak to you after a long time. What one person is said to fear the other is said to love and visa versa and witnesses are divided. Some say he fears such and such. Some say he loves this and that. Some ask what do you fear. Some ask what do you love. Those in a crowd say what do the others fear. Those not in a crowd say what do those in a crowd fear. Some say what are you running from. Some say what are you running to. Like children in a market place. Some cry and say why are you not crying with us. Some dance and say why are you not dancing with us.

Yes Js wish to close the door. Ps wish to open the door. After the door is closed it will be opened. After the door is opened it will be closed. After the door is closed it will be opened. After the ...

Many years ago I wrote a reference for a friend. It was soon after I learned about MBTI and that my very best friend was an ENFJ. A good part of the reference I wrote for her was about her being an ENFJ and this would make her perfect for the job she was applying for (teacher). I think it possible that culture and nationality adds a flavour that affects how MBTI types behave, speak and think.There may be 16 useful descriptions in any nationality or culture, but variability that while significant is not enough to merge the types or blur the edges. This is my assumption at least. I would assume for example an ENFJ in Japan or the middle east or Tibet or Kenya would describe ENFJs with some noticeable degree of difference.

I am ENFP and my last two exes were ENTJs. They were both toxic as hell but I thibk they were just immature and I am still attracted to thme :D its really easy for me to attract them and connect with them fortunateley.

Enneagram 5 I think and possibly with 4 or 6. In some ways I found Enneagram to be more descriptive for me than MBTI, though the description I most often return to is tribal/non-tribal even more than introvert/extrovert. Which of the descriptions do you most often return to?

Why's my like nonexistent?? **Tap Like** Zero Likes?? ~ENFJ

Plz someone kind date me ;(

If I remember correctly Kiersey called them the Engineer, though it's not mentioned on youtube. For example I once visited a model engineering show which was mainly model steam engines. I believed it was an ENTP show!

ENTJ and INFP attract each other through what they lack, that the others have. ENTJ with their weak Fi, INFP with their weak Te

To me its all about level of energy and whether an NTP wishes to expend energy debating, because an NTP by definition does not care what others do, think, believe in the sense they are willing to live and let live and allow all people to believe, think and do as they themselves wish even if they do, think and believe what others tell them. My former girl friend wanted me to meet her best girl friend so she could listen to the two of us debate. Afterward she told me she was disappointed that I did not at all debate. And of course an NTP is one of the least likely to rise to a bait or do something for reward or praise, and so are difficult to manipulate or goad into things including debating. I go from being myself to being dead and back again. When another has the power to make me do, think or believe something, I consciously switch myself off and make myself a puppet. In one sense they have me and in another sense they have nothing. In some sense they have won everything and in another sense they have won nothing. In some sense I have lost everything and in some sense I have lost nothing. Two people who debate are surely two people whose mindset is in the same country and so they fight over the land, but almost by definition an NTP is exploring an undiscovered country and if they encounter others on the way it is simply to pass through. NTPs surely do not seek followers and so will not debate in order to gain them. NTPs surely do not seek justification and so have no need to gain it. What an NTP does to make money is surely the opposite of who the NTP is. Doing what I love for free and what I hate for money. If debate is about what is right or what 'should' be done or thought or believed ... there is surely no 'should' in the NTPs mindset and so little fuel to the fire or debate. Maybe if someone says thou shalt not believe, think or do such and such and NTP will appear to debate but probably in the style of Samson bringing the whole temple down. I could think people are scared of provoking a debate because the NTP does not seek common ground but undiscovered ground and so is willing to reveal all and every flaw in their own thinking, or believing or doing which could reveal that the debater is concealing much. I have observed in the work place a culture of 'I won't say what you are doing or not doing if you don't say what I am doing or not doing' but an NTP who self-reveals is impervious to fear of revealing. I'd guess NTPs are the most impervious to many forms of black mail whether moral or not because they are the more willing to be hit; they have nothing to win from the other. Is the NTP for or against anything or anyone? Maybe debating and fighting skill is a cognitive appendix to the NTP?