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To save or to scrap? (my first pc)
This machine is what is left of my main pc. Due to unfortunate circunstances, it has ended up in Canada with my relatives instead of being in the UK with the rest of my machines. This is also the same machine I mentioned in a previous video of that '08 Packard bell imedia. In its original form, it was overclocked to 3ghz and had a radeon hd 5850 in it which was fine for the games I played back then (mainly train simulator and minecraft :/)
Let me know on what you guys think I should do with this machine considering the fact that its 9 hours away from home. Enjoy!
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The AMD A4. Is it really that bad? (Packard Bell imedia S2190)
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First off. Thank you for 300 subscribers! As you guys probably know that my motive for this channel is to keep things chilled and not to force nonsense down your throats, this milestone makes me really humbled and I really appreciate it all. This is just an overview to see if these old pre-ryzen low end AMD chips have any life left in them a decade later. As some of you may know, these A-series...
Early 2000s? Canarm/Astor(SMC) 6" "frankenfan" clip fan
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Title says it all. I might attempt to repair the Canarm in a later video. Enjoy!
Late 90s? Lloytron Executive 7" table fan
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Title says it all. Its a shame that we dont really get that many good 7" fans anymore. Enjoy!
A budget pc from 2008. What can it do? (Packard Bell imedia D2315 AIO)
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Got this machine thinking it would be slightly interesting with its Nvidia nforce 610i chipset. If you guys have any suggestions on what to do to this machine, please leave them in the comments.Thanks and enjoy!
2003 HM design 12" pedestal fan with rotating grills
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This is by far the strangest fan I own. Even though its quite loud, its still a pretty decent fan. Enjoy!
A 99p pc. Can it game? (Dell Dimension 9200)
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Yes. you read the title correctly. Thanks to Ebay auctions, I now have this nice Dimension 9200. Still not sure if Im going to keep it or not so if you want, you can share what you think should be done with the machine. Enjoy!
An Overview of my "retro gaming" machine (Dell Dimension 8300)
Просмотров 2 тыс.28 дней назад
First off, Happy 4th of July to my american viewers! this is just an overview of an old machine I got from a nice family friend. I do hope to significantly upgrade this machine as much as possible. Also, as stated in the video, if anyone knows how to get older early 2000s games from steam to work on old machines running on unsupported operating system, Please leave a comment down below! Thanks ...
Kuo Jun BF-20-24 21" Box fan (Holmes box fan clone)
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Another fan I did not expect to own! this is a fan from my childhood that I've been looking for around 15 years now (yes, it doesnt look that special but its got a place in my memories). I looked everywhere online and in different stores to try find it but yet somehow, some nice guy posted it on FB marketplace and now here it is! Enjoy!
A look at my mid 2000s ex-gaming machine and cpu swap
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This thing was in shambles when I first got it. Very dirty and full of cobwebs, missing screws, dangling cables etc. now that Its all cleaned up and has a new cpu. What do you guys think I should do with it? keep it or sell it? Enjoy! (lets see if you can stand with 33 mins of me being dumb 🫠)
Mid 2010s? Honeywell HT900E 9" "TurboForce" fan
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Title says it all. This fan feels weaker then my old chillout fan I had in Qatar.
1970s/1980s Vortice Nordik 30 12" table fan
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(Reupload due to editing error) Here is a fan I did not expect to own! hopefully some day I will be able to get it to run freely even if it is severely out of balance. Enjoy!
Overview of my Virtual machine host/future file server (Dell precision T7600)
Просмотров 531Месяц назад
(apologies for the weird orientation later in the video. My phone has been acting up lately) As usual. I forgot to mention some details about the machine which Dell has thankfully listed on a spec sheet that is linked below. spec sheet: Enjoy! (if you have any questions, ask away in the comments section)
1982 Xpelair-Taurus T12 (12") table fan (from @fans9695)
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Thanks to Fans96. I now own this lovely Xpelair-Taurus T12. While it may not be in the best of condition, it is a very smooth runner and its been in constant use since I got it. I might make a video of me servicing this fan later on. Enjoy!
Early 2000s? Honeywell DT-9E 9" table fan
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Early 2000s? Honeywell DT-9E 9" table fan
(long awaited) 1990s GET G12FW 12" table fan
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(long awaited) 1990s GET G12FW 12" table fan
1980s Tatung DS-16AP 16" table fan
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1980s Tatung DS-16AP 16" table fan
How well does a pentium dual core hold up in 2024? (Eid mubarak!)
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How well does a pentium dual core hold up in 2024? (Eid mubarak!)
Micromark MM9070 9" table fan (mid 90s?)
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Micromark MM9070 9" table fan (mid 90s?)
Argos 7" table fan (mid 2000s?)
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Argos 7" table fan (mid 2000s?)
Unboxing of a 1980s Pifco 1089 8" fan
Просмотров 554Месяц назад
Unboxing of a 1980s Pifco 1089 8" fan
CED (SMC) 16" wall fan and a quick look at my messy loft...
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CED (SMC) 16" wall fan and a quick look at my messy loft...
Still alive! whats happened in 2 years
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Still alive! whats happened in 2 years
Samsung Galaxy Z flip 3 unboxing.
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Samsung Galaxy Z flip 3 unboxing.
2014 Nissan Patrol y62 Xforce varex exhaust sound in tunnel
Просмотров 5 тыс.2 года назад
2014 Nissan Patrol y62 Xforce varex exhaust sound in tunnel
world war z gameplay
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world war z gameplay
battlefront 2 cringe...
Просмотров 232 года назад
battlefront 2 cringe...
Asus XG49VQ 49 inch monitor and other new stuff
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Asus XG49VQ 49 inch monitor and other new stuff
Receiver shenanigans (and some other things)
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Receiver shenanigans (and some other things)
My small audio setup and my new pc case
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My small audio setup and my new pc case

Комментарии

  • @donaldnemesis393
    @donaldnemesis393 16 часов назад

    but can it run windows 7 without lag?

  • @sergeantsapient
    @sergeantsapient День назад

    I wish I had kept my first PC. Hold on to if you can. It's a nice case too.

  • @donaldnemesis393
    @donaldnemesis393 День назад

    of course save it. You can upgrade the gpu on it and turns it into stable diffusion machine

  • @sajeucettefoistunevaspasme
    @sajeucettefoistunevaspasme День назад

    save brother, this could be very useful in the future. if you save it you can scrap it later if you're forced to, but if you scrap it well... you can't save it anymore

  • @asdassdgfdf7509
    @asdassdgfdf7509 День назад

    I am late but Eid Mubarak! I have a system with q8400 a very good cpu

  • @more2008
    @more2008 День назад

    Save. You can make a server with it :)

  • @37Kilo2
    @37Kilo2 2 дня назад

    If nothing else, the case is worth keeping, or selling.

  • @epidoxxsoc8484
    @epidoxxsoc8484 2 дня назад

    keep it as collection or you can test it if you want, just keep it, don't scrap it

  • @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC
    @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC 2 дня назад

    I would take these over a Vornado Flippi.

  • @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC
    @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC 2 дня назад

    6:31 I’d never buy a vornado flippi lol

  • @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC
    @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC 2 дня назад

    Has the Geepas fallen down and smashed?

  • @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC
    @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC 2 дня назад

    Has the Geepas fallen down and smashed?

  • @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC
    @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC 2 дня назад

    I do hope to find another DS-12P, but with a not crumbling neck bracket. I’m gonna look for a DS-12P, but in pristine condition. I do not like the ABS neck bracket on these fans.

  • @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC
    @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC 2 дня назад

    You should try a Metal SMC

  • @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC
    @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC 2 дня назад

    3:49 my theory about Honeywell oiling their motors was correct

  • @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC
    @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC 2 дня назад

    I trust you more than a hardware store lol

  • @mrvomit101
    @mrvomit101 2 дня назад

    Worth saving

  • @TheOneWhoWins.
    @TheOneWhoWins. 2 дня назад

    my honest opinion i wouldn't scrap something like this, especially if it's your first pc. wish i still had mine, it was a late 90's Compaq and first computer i ever used to go on the internet at the time, it accidentally got thrown out in the trash, crazy how time fly's and things change. also these type of systems are a bit rare nowadays even if it had dead hardware in it. if you want to repurpose it (if the hardware is not dead) get a ryzen APU and a micro ATX motherboard, what ever the cheapest that you can afford. but it's your choice what ya do with it.

  • @rysterstech
    @rysterstech 3 дня назад

    Make it a remote nas for offsite backups using OMV and Tailscale, AthlonXP should be perfectly capable

  • @chase7974
    @chase7974 3 дня назад

    Yeah they weren't great. About on par with a Core 2 Duo, but less power draw.

  • @mrudon3908
    @mrudon3908 3 дня назад

    Whatever you do with that PC, I hope you're happy with your choice.

  • @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC
    @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC 3 дня назад

    This is the sort of PC I would buy, beautiful, well built and just not filled with ads.

  • @fans9695
    @fans9695 3 дня назад

    anyone who does crack or LSD would never able to use this fan

  • @goqwertygo
    @goqwertygo 3 дня назад

    It's not pirating if you own the game ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I love The Sims 2 still semiregularly play my 15 year continuous game save currently running it on a Dell precision 5810 Windows 7 32GB quad channel DDR4 and a GTX660 until i get the special 8+6pin GPU power cable. Then it'll have my old Titan Black

    • @Theutmostgeek
      @Theutmostgeek 3 дня назад

      @@goqwertygo Fair enough. It seems that quite a few people still enjoy the older sim games. You definitely got quite a neat setup. It'll run real nice with the titan!

  • @nushnume
    @nushnume 3 дня назад

    Well you could try to recreate the original build if you want. I guess it depends if you cared enough about it to keep it so to save it or scrap it is only up to you. I still have my first original Athlon XP build from 2004. I kept it for nostalgia reasons,and to play my old games when i don't have anything better to do

  • @j.lietka9406
    @j.lietka9406 3 дня назад

    A Long time ago...!!! I built my first PC, back in.. '96? had it for some years but it had Win ' '98. It still worked, but because of it's age, I gave it to the Goodwill. You might want to keep it.

  • @patg108
    @patg108 3 дня назад

    save it, test it and see what happens

  • @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC
    @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC 3 дня назад

    I always look back on this video

  • @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC
    @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC 3 дня назад

    I swear I saw this in a House of Fraser once

  • @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC
    @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC 3 дня назад

    This feels & looks inferior for 1981 Pifco 9” desk fan

  • @Foddley
    @Foddley 3 дня назад

    I've been looking for one of these for a sleeper build, but they're proving to be quite rare in the UK now. 😥

    • @Theutmostgeek
      @Theutmostgeek 3 дня назад

      @@Foddley Yeah its a shame really. Now there are plenty of idiots around who think these are worth paying £50+ for a pentium 4 machine...

    • @Foddley
      @Foddley 2 дня назад

      @@Theutmostgeek Tell me about it. I offered £80 to someone on eBay listing one for £160 and they declined 😅

  • @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC
    @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC 4 дня назад

    I like the patina on mine as it shows character but yes it needs a service

    • @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC
      @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC 3 дня назад

      I’ll send it to you if my dad trusts you enough to service it. I’ll talk with him about it.

  • @j.lietka9406
    @j.lietka9406 6 дней назад

    Even though its a stock case, it has potential!! Its what you put in it!

    • @Theutmostgeek
      @Theutmostgeek 6 дней назад

      @@j.lietka9406 Exactly that!

    • @j.lietka9406
      @j.lietka9406 6 дней назад

      ​​​@@Theutmostgeek the mobo looks to be quite clean! Did you remove dust, cobwebs, junk before recording? Thank you 8:42 not an expert, but I agree: replace the cap! What to do with the Packard Bell? Keep the case but if you can afford it, build a cooler PC!

    • @Theutmostgeek
      @Theutmostgeek 6 дней назад

      ​@@j.lietka9406Yep I cleaned the machine before recording to just make it less of an eye sore to look at. I might attempt to replace the cap just to practice soldering although I will consider making a sleeper build with this case if I ever have the funds to do so!

    • @j.lietka9406
      @j.lietka9406 6 дней назад

      @@Theutmostgeek as a kind of hobby I look for electronics in dumpsters and curbside stuff. There's an e-waste dumpster not too far from me, but most of what is there is rendered unusable. Lots to look at and dig through but not much worth taking. I check apartment and business dumpsters. Sometimes I get lucky! Thank you

    • @j.lietka9406
      @j.lietka9406 5 дней назад

      @@Theutmostgeek at one of my regular places I check for electronics, I found a tossed out Acer R 14 (screen is cracked! 😡) But looks pretty much complete. Also found an e- machine. Not sure what brand or processor. It's kind of a smaller case PC.

  • @GODDeliversMinistries
    @GODDeliversMinistries 8 дней назад

    Did yall know God's Son Jesus Christ Died On The Cross and Rose Again From The Dead out of The Tomb on The 3rd Day. He Died for Everyones Sins even Mine. He Paid the Horrible Price we should have Paid. But He Paid it So We Would Have A Way into Heaven. if We Repent for Our Sins and Believe in Him and Serve Him and Obey Him. So I Encourage Those We Are Living In The Last Days I Encourage Anyone Not Saved Now Its the Time To Repent And Live For The Lord Before Its To Late and God's Final Judgment Comes. After you accept Jesus Christ into your heart and you Repent for Your Sins Your Name Gets Written Down in The Lamb's Book Of Life. and You Gotta Continue to Serve the Lord and Repent for Your Sins all the days of your life until Jesus comes back to call His Church home. Because No Ones Perfect we all Sin. but we need to Not Willfully Sin. and i will admit i have willfully sinned multiple times and I feel Guilty About it So I Repent we Were Made sinners because of Adam And Eve. but we dont need to Sin on Purpose. But We Sin All The Time Because we Humans get Angry and hurt people. and Are Hateful toward people when God commands us to Love Our Neighbors. and Pray for Our Enemies. there is all kinds of Sins. We Are Allowed to Be Frustrated at Peoples Actions. Without getting Angry and injuring People and breaking Stuff. Or Name Calling thats Wrong to. Heaven And Hell Are Real... and after Jesus Christ comes back and calls His Church home. Alot of people will be left behind because of being to caught up with the world and not believing in God. and other stuff And During that time the Anti Christ will reveal himself and Lie to People and Say Hes Jesus Christ. and he will try and Deceive the ones in Israel. and in turn Try and And Deceive the Entire World. and he will try to force People to Receive a Chip in their Right Hand or Foreheads.The Anti Christ hasn't Revealed Himself yet Though. and If you havent noticed they are trying to push for digital currency but we dont know who the Anti Christ Is. Only the ones left behind will know unless people make things right with GOD. Revelation 20:11 KJV And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. Revelation 20:12 KJV And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. Revelation 20:13 KJV And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Revelation 20:14 KJV And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Revelation 20:15 KJV And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

  • @Connectitthefancollector
    @Connectitthefancollector 8 дней назад

    Ah didn't realise you have one on these. It is certainly in better shale than mine is lol.

  • @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC
    @LiftEnthusiast2020OFFTOPIC 12 дней назад

    Check out my new digicam

  • @FFFFFFFFFF493
    @FFFFFFFFFF493 12 дней назад

    I have one of these, I popped in a QX6800, GTX260 and 4GB of RAM, sweet XP machine.

  • @freddyorihuela1631
    @freddyorihuela1631 12 дней назад

    Hello friend, a question, I have a Foxconn CN15235 motherboard saved, it is old with the INTEL05 E2168 processor.

  • @Pond6
    @Pond6 13 дней назад

    I had a similar computer to this made by dell (looked the same as your computer) and it had the first SATA cables that I'd ever seen, AMD processor, and it was one of the last Dell's with Windows XP on it. There was a sale on the website so I bought one. I wish I had kept that computer but I eventually sold it to a friend.

  • @j.lietka9406
    @j.lietka9406 13 дней назад

    Checked: the similar model I have is the Dimension 3100. Front label says it has the Pentium 4 HT, roughly 3.2 Ghz. Think it still works with Win XP. Is your PC a 32 or 64 - bit?

    • @Theutmostgeek
      @Theutmostgeek 13 дней назад

      ah. I have the SFF version of that pc called the 3100C. As far as I know, all core 2 duo cpus were 64 bit. Yours might also have the later 64 bit prescott or cedar mill pentium 4s in it although prescott is missing a few instructions for it to actually be usable in 64 bit windows. Works great for linux though!

    • @j.lietka9406
      @j.lietka9406 13 дней назад

      @@Theutmostgeek I am not too sure if the Pentium 4 HT / Dimension 3100 CPU can be upgraded or not. Thank you when I got that PC, there were some other PCs, around the same age - Win 7, Vista 🙄😴, XP, one has a ransomware notice on it! 😱🤣

    • @Theutmostgeek
      @Theutmostgeek 13 дней назад

      @@j.lietka9406 Always good to check Dell's handy service manuals for info like that. That kind of stuff is just so goofy lol.

  • @ScarletAmethyst
    @ScarletAmethyst 13 дней назад

    The Dell Dimension 9200 is also known as the Dell XPS 410. As for gaming, the Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM (or maybe 2 GB), and a good video card could play most PS3/Xbox 360 era titles. For newer games, you may need something like a GTX 750 or 950, at least 64-bit Windows 7 (since most games from 2014 onwards are 64-bit only), 8 GB RAM, and Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 or Q6700 for games that require a Quad Core processor. Obviously, the Core 2 processor and the 8 GB DDR2 will be inadequate for today's ninth generation games especially with games needing 16 GB RAM although anything with lower requirements should work fine.

    • @Theutmostgeek
      @Theutmostgeek 13 дней назад

      @@ScarletAmethyst Havent come across one branded as an XPS yet. Will search that up! You are definitely right about the capabilities of this machine. I might consider maxing it out later on once im done with my custom q9550 machine shown in an earlier video.

  • @WhoCaresGamingIsDead
    @WhoCaresGamingIsDead 13 дней назад

    w10 id drop in 4GB (2x2GB) minimum or better 2x4GB DDR3 dimms..

  • @WhoCaresGamingIsDead
    @WhoCaresGamingIsDead 13 дней назад

    need more ram

  • @WhoCaresGamingIsDead
    @WhoCaresGamingIsDead 13 дней назад

    or a lightweight linux distro

  • @WhoCaresGamingIsDead
    @WhoCaresGamingIsDead 13 дней назад

    id put windows 7 on it u be better off

    • @Theutmostgeek
      @Theutmostgeek 13 дней назад

      if I was keeping it. I probably would have put 7 on it or linux like you said. The amount of ram it has seems to be still suffiecent enough to use for a daily machine.

  • @j.lietka9406
    @j.lietka9406 13 дней назад

    I think the case is still cool! Thank you what you might be able to do is check dumpsters (believe you call them bins) for tossed out PCs, laptops.. as a kind of hobby I look for electronics in dumpsters and curbside stuff! Found 2 Dell Latitude 5420 laptops to-day in an apartment dumpster! I believe I have a Dell tower like yours (also a dumpster find). 🤓

    • @Theutmostgeek
      @Theutmostgeek 13 дней назад

      I totally agree with you! they look really damn good for their age. Unfortunetly, here in the uk. People arent really allowed to stick computers into dumpsters so the only way I can really find machines like that is by going to the landfill and seeing if anyone is about to dump something as even taking from there is illegal. Thats a really good find!

    • @j.lietka9406
      @j.lietka9406 13 дней назад

      @@Theutmostgeek where I live, in the US, people, companies toss out PCs, laptops, servers, some networking equipment... There is a couple of e-waste dumpsters not too far from where I live (NC) but what is in the bins - PC cases, monitors, laptops, etc has been rendered unusable. Lots to look at & dig through but not much worth taking. It's the business and apartment dumpsters I find electronics in. Found 2, yes 2! Dell Latitude 5420 laptops to-day. Tossed out in an apartment dumpster I periodically check. I don't live there, but have found some other laptops there before. Have to find a suitable USB - C power supply to see if they work! They are the same, appears to be in great condition...

  • @zhongj
    @zhongj 13 дней назад

    Do you plan to daily drive it? I still uses a Dell Vostro 1400 when going outside and mid 2009 iMac as a daily driver at home.

    • @Theutmostgeek
      @Theutmostgeek 13 дней назад

      Nah. I got a thinkcentre tiny m73 that I use as my daily machine. I also had a vostro 200s a few years back. Those machines you are using are still plenty for daily use.

    • @zhongj
      @zhongj 12 дней назад

      @@Theutmostgeek I run BSD on the iMac and Ubuntu ESM to keep the system light on the old hardware. What about you?

    • @Theutmostgeek
      @Theutmostgeek 12 дней назад

      @@zhongj Im still stuck to using windows for now. I have tried out a variety of different distros of linux and Ive been really pleased with how they perform on my older machines. Only issue I have is that I just cant figure out how to do basic stuff like downloading programs from the web etc. Prob gotta find one of those linux for dummies books lol.

  • @MrHeHim
    @MrHeHim 14 дней назад

    Those weren't the worst, Great for budget PC's in light use at the time. The worst was the lower power C, E, and G lines. Insanely slow to use as a desktop CPU, were good for lower powered firewalls or NAS. The quad core variants were barely tolerable, but perfectly usable with light use. And, yes.. there is a single core C-30 that's slower than a CPU from 1999

    • @Theutmostgeek
      @Theutmostgeek 14 дней назад

      @@MrHeHim Yeah I was told that the other versions were pretty pathetic (specifically the E series). That C-30 sounds like hell to use.

  • @laurencejohnson4106
    @laurencejohnson4106 14 дней назад

    That was a good deal!👍👍 Installing an SSD., and a Linux OS., such as Linux Mint Mate would vastly improve it's performance.

    • @Theutmostgeek
      @Theutmostgeek 14 дней назад

      It was a very good deal indeed! Everything that you said as well as 8gb of ram will make this machine a pretty decent daily machine.

    • @laurencejohnson4106
      @laurencejohnson4106 14 дней назад

      @@Theutmostgeek Yes, 8 gig., of ram., will certainly help!👍👍

  • @dgorry
    @dgorry 15 дней назад

    Acer use a similar case here in Australia. The side intake for cpu and top intake for gpu is fantastic. Pity more OEM's didn't use such a simple and logical layout.

    • @Theutmostgeek
      @Theutmostgeek 15 дней назад

      Ah. Yeah I think these are one of the best OEM SFF cases out there in terms of airflow. Everybody else seems to screw it up.