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NETA Apparatus and Relay Testing
I'm a NETA level 4, NICET EPT level 4, and have 11 years in the field. I have worked at power plants, utility substations, hospitals, hyperscale data centers, government, and heavy industry.
This channel is an independent project and is not associated with any company, association, or sponsor. Any statements shared here are entirely my opinion. The information contained here shall not be considered a substitute for or superseding to proper training, codes, laws, or any other guidelines. Only trained, competent, and qualified electrical workers can perform electrical work. RUclips videos DO NOT make you a qualified electrical worker.
I'm a NETA level 4, NICET EPT level 4, and have 11 years in the field. I have worked at power plants, utility substations, hospitals, hyperscale data centers, government, and heavy industry.
This channel is an independent project and is not associated with any company, association, or sponsor. Any statements shared here are entirely my opinion. The information contained here shall not be considered a substitute for or superseding to proper training, codes, laws, or any other guidelines. Only trained, competent, and qualified electrical workers can perform electrical work. RUclips videos DO NOT make you a qualified electrical worker.
The Ultimate Guide to Electrical Theory and Math for the NETA Exam
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This video covers almost every math problem and formula you'll run into on the NETA and NICET EPT exams.
References Mentioned:
Khan Academy
www.khanacademy.org/
All About Circuits
www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/
@EngineeringMindset "How 3 Phase Power Works"
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0:00 - Intro
4:00 - Engineering Notation
9:37 - Ohm's Law Basics
12:35 - Ohm's Law Power
13:44 - RMS vs. Peak Voltage
17:22 - P-P vs. P-N Voltage
19:13 - Resistance vs. Impedance
23:47 - Inductive Reactance
26:46 - Capacitive Reactance
28:43 - RLC Impedance
32:41 - Series/Parallel Resistors
36:52 - Series/Parallel Inducto...
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This video covers almost every math problem and formula you'll run into on the NETA and NICET EPT exams.
References Mentioned:
Khan Academy
www.khanacademy.org/
All About Circuits
www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/
@EngineeringMindset "How 3 Phase Power Works"
ruclips.net/video/c9gm_NL7KyE/видео.html
0:00 - Intro
4:00 - Engineering Notation
9:37 - Ohm's Law Basics
12:35 - Ohm's Law Power
13:44 - RMS vs. Peak Voltage
17:22 - P-P vs. P-N Voltage
19:13 - Resistance vs. Impedance
23:47 - Inductive Reactance
26:46 - Capacitive Reactance
28:43 - RLC Impedance
32:41 - Series/Parallel Resistors
36:52 - Series/Parallel Inducto...
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NEW Doble F8000 / F8300 - Review from the Field
Просмотров 835Месяц назад
Is it time to upgrade to the new Doble F8000 or F8300 from your old F6150? What are the key differences and updates? Is this relay test set ready take out into the field? I present an unbiased, honest review of this exciting new powerhouse and share some of my issues and reservations about it, from the context of an experience relay tech. 0:00 - Intro 2:33 - Key Features 8:15 - Connecting to th...
Basler BE1-50/51 - How to Test Relays ep8
Просмотров 8022 месяца назад
The Basler BE1-50/51 is a great solid state instant & time overcurrent relay from the 90's. Today we take a deep-dive on this cool relay and I show you how to test all of the functions, including the pickups, time overcurrent trip, instantaneous trip, and targets. 0:00 - Intro 3:14 - Inspect the Relay & Case 8:56 - RTFM & DIP Switch Settings 17:20 - Create a Test Plan 20:42 - Time OC Pickup 24:...
How to Test an Energy Revenue Meter with a Watthour Standard [SEL-735 + Radian RD-21]
Просмотров 4672 месяца назад
In this video I give a detailed overview of the theory and methodology of testing a high accuracy #energy revenue #meter like the SEL-735 offline using a watt-hour standard like the Radian RD-21. Chat with me on LinkedIn! linkedin.com/in/holland-joel/ 0:00 - Intro 1:20 - Defining Meter Accuracy 5:36 - NETA Testing Spec 7:04 - Watt-hour standard 9:14 - Testing Voltage or Current 11:40 - Power Eq...
Q&A#2 Cheat Code for Testing Bus Duct
Просмотров 6985 месяцев назад
A viewer asked how they're supposed to test bus duct that's longer than their DLRO leads. There's actually a simple trick to use the other phases of the bus duct AS PART OF THE TEST SET. If you've got an idea for a video or a question you're too afraid to ask anyone else, let me know! It might be the topic of my next video.
GE IAC Masterclass Part 2: TESTING - How To Test Relays ep6
Просмотров 6706 месяцев назад
This is part 2 where we talk about testing the GE IAC! The GE IAC relay was one of the most popular electromechanical relays on the planet. It is very similar to the Westinghouse CO series of relays (CO8, CO9, CO10, CO11, etc) and is the predecessor to the GE IFC relay. In fact, most of the testing procedures are identical between all three of these. There are still tens of thousands of electro...
GE IAC Relay Masterclass Part 1 - How To Test Relays ep5
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The GE IAC relay was one of the most popular electromechanical relays on the planet. It is very similar to the Westinghouse CO series of relays (CO8, CO9, CO10, CO11, etc) and is the predecessor to the GE IFC relay. In fact, most of the testing procedures are identical between all three of these. There are still tens of thousands of electromechanical overcurrent relays still in service all over...
Learn Protection Suite in 45 Minutes - How To Test Relays ep4
Просмотров 1,6 тыс.7 месяцев назад
Learning the software is often the hardest part of relay testing. Today I fly through the major functions you need to know in Protection Suite! This video was a long time in the making, but I'm excited to be able to bring it out for everyone. You obviously wont be a master overnight, but this is the first step in a long series of videos designed to get new guys in the field up to speed on relay...
Q&A#1 - Why do you short transformer windings for Power Factor but not Insulation Resistance testing
Просмотров 2 тыс.7 месяцев назад
A viewer asked, "Why do we need to short the windings for the Power Factor test, but we don't for Megger (Insulation resistance)?" When testing large power transformers or distribution transformers for acceptance and maintenance, there's a lot of things we do which don't make sense on the surface. I try to break that down in understandable terms, with just enough math to make it sound legit! Th...
Download Settings in a GE Multilin Relay - How to Test Relays ep3
Просмотров 2,7 тыс.8 месяцев назад
Today we fire up the GE Multilin 469 to take a look at downloading and uploading settings! I talk about the similarities and differences in the software user interface between these and the other GE Multilin relays like the UR series (B60, T60, T90, F35, etc), the 8-series (850, 869, 889, etc). I also give a brief overview of the settings menus and how to handle the settings files. Link to my f...
Purpose, Types, & Applications of Protection Relays - How to Test Relays ep2
Просмотров 1,8 тыс.9 месяцев назад
Gentlemen welcome back! Today we're taking a look at the major types, vintages, and applications of protection relays, as well as the basic building blocks of circuit protection as power systems have evolved over the last 100 years. Useful Links: My video on low voltage circuit breaker testing (Thermal Curve Explanation) ruclips.net/video/3o6jNp7KVkM/видео.html Another very good video about the...
How to Download/Install Settings on SEL Relays - How to Test Relays ep1
Просмотров 6 тыс.10 месяцев назад
Here's a step-by-step guide on downloading settings files from (or installing them into) SEL relays! I also show how fix USB driver issues, download event files, and view the sequential event recorder (SER). As mentioned, here are the links to everything I talk about in the video. SEL AcSELerator QuickSet software (you need an account to download): selinc.com/products/5030/ SEL C662 Cable: seli...
How to Test Relays ep0: Series Intro
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Here's a quick rundown for what to expect as I start the "How to Test Relays" Series!
MASTER Load Studies with the AEMC PEL103
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MASTER Load Studies with the AEMC PEL103
What is Maintenance Mode? (MMS, ERMS, ARMS, RELT, DAS)
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What is Maintenance Mode? (MMS, ERMS, ARMS, RELT, DAS)
NETA vs NICET EPT - Which one's better? (Plus exam study tips!)
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NETA vs NICET EPT - Which one's better? (Plus exam study tips!)
40 Phrases and Slang you NEED TO KNOW as an Electrical Technician
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40 Phrases and Slang you NEED TO KNOW as an Electrical Technician
Write Professional IR Scan Reports with FREE Flir Thermal Studio
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Write Professional IR Scan Reports with FREE Flir Thermal Studio
How to Test Breakers ep2: Medium Voltage Vacuum Circuit Breaker
Просмотров 8 тыс.Год назад
How to Test Breakers ep2: Medium Voltage Vacuum Circuit Breaker
How to Program Siemens ETU500 & ETU800 Trip Units with Sentron Powerconfig
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How to Program Siemens ETU500 & ETU800 Trip Units with Sentron Powerconfig
ABB vs States Test Switch Paddles - Flexitest FT1 vs FMS
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ABB vs States Test Switch Paddles - Flexitest FT1 vs FMS
Test Equipment Repair - 1 MASSIVE FAIL, 1 success!
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Test Equipment Repair - 1 MASSIVE FAIL, 1 success!
How to Test Breakers ep1: Thermal Magnetic Trip Units
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How to Test Breakers ep1: Thermal Magnetic Trip Units
Inexcusable Problem with NEW ABB Breakers
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Inexcusable Problem with NEW ABB Breakers
Enjoying your work . Really learning. 😅Hope i dont sound like a nuisance but one of the topics im really waiting on would be a deep dive into protection schematics. From explaining whats going on with the circuits the wiring tricks that might help in designing and testing. Thankyou again im watching religiously
It's definitely on the list!
Rent a electric scooter next time
I love those days like…I can’t believe I get paid to do this.
Also is that Nolan Partridge??
Lol it is.
@@testingtechtips Great guy! That’s good company in a creepy long tunnel lol!!!😂
I recently got possession of a few of these through an auction. I would like to clean them up, test them to see whether or not they are working status and flag them for various defects. I do work in tech so your video is generally easy to follow but you don't go into any detail on the power setup. If I wanted to be able to mock up a power supply for one of these, what is your homebrew for that?
I'm assuming most, if not all the relays you want to fire up take 125VDC. There are a couple ways to make a DIY power supply that can handle that but they're all varying levels of sketchy. Maybe I'll make a video about that someday, but for your use case I'd recommend just getting a 120V DC bench power supply. Last I checked there were a few on Amazon for $80.
@@testingtechtips Sweet thanks man.
Bullshit. You were straight A's.
Lol I assure you I was not 😅
Where is your link for reading TOC Curves?
ruclips.net/video/3o6jNp7KVkM/видео.htmlsi=PP9s7cLUWjzsE3QC around the 20 minute mark
Awesome information ! thank you for this video. It's difficult coming by good resources such as yours!
I'm happy to help! I love doing this.
@@testingtechtips THAT IS AWESOME!!! I really appreciate you at the moment!! 👍
I'm at the point where I came from the Construction side of things but was never shown electrical theory, so I am scratching y head trying to figure it out! I love your videos and enjoy the content, but I am struggling remembering a lot of formulas for my NETA 2 exam. Any tips?
Fortunately the give you a sheet with the formulas during your exam. It's just up to you to know how to apply and solve them.
Like TTT said you have access to a formula sheet and you can download a copy at the NETA exam website to review. It doesn't have everything though (for example available SC current), my advice is to practice using them and get an understanding of what the formula is "doing" rather than just trying to hammer them all into your skull through wrote memorization. As a simple example instead of trying to memorize that I = E/R, remember that your current should be higher as voltage goes up and lower as resistance increases. Probably not needed for that example but for more complex formulas that sort of thing can help you remember what should be included and where and help jog your memory if you start getting confused. That approach also helps on questions where you're not asked to calculate anything directly but are asked "what happens when ... is increased in a circuit" Good luck.
when you added up your parallel resistance, you missed typed your 60 Ohm resistance. you marked it down as '0.166' when it should have been '0.0166'. This changed the final calculation quite a bit. your answer of '3.215 Ohms' should be closer to '6.25 Ohms'. I have been wrong more than once in my life, so double check me. Great videos FYI!
Dang, I had two other mistakes that I caught in editing lol great catch. Thanks
Great Video !
Nice work, this is a very difficult topic to cover quickly. Over the last couple years I’ve seen more people coming into testing with little or no electrical background. Two of my newer guys asked what the difference was between apparent, real, and reactive power. A couple minutes in I realized they needed a more fundamental understanding of circuits before they would get what the power really meant.
Thanks! Yeah RUclips videos aren't a complete replacement for classroom learning but I like to think I can help a little bit.
Trigonometry is the basis for most math a NETA tech requires.
Thank you for putting your life on the line for our convenience and comfort. Stay safe out there, brother.
It doesn't feel dangerous when we're doing it! We take a lot of time and effort to make sure we're equipped to do everything comfortably and safely - and to make sure we don't cause more switches to blow up haha.
Nice video quality! What did you use for the video?
Wow I really appreciate the upload, really cool stuff.
Thank you 🙏
We got about 20 6150’s. Few 61850 subs. No one really knows or gives a fuck about that thing. They just sit there. 6150 is where it’s at.
Why mess with it if it works, right?
I was wondering how these units were in the field. I started on a F6150 with Protest and used one for 12 years exclusively. This past year I got a CMC and why it isn't perfect, I'm really enjoying the experience. I am finding Test Universe much easier to work with than Protection Suite. Thanks for taking the time to make this video!
I found the Omicron software a bit limiting for what I wanted but I never actually got training on it so I'm sure I was missing something haha.
@@testingtechtips try the new Omicron CMC500! That is "the real Device"!
Ever played with Omicron?
I have a few hours with it under my belt but not a ton. I've always used an F6150 and protections suite, and never had a compelling reason to use anything else. I know it's solid hardware and all the guys I know who use the CMC have a similar love/hate relationship with the software. Maybe I'll play with it more at some point and report back.
@@testingtechtips I find the omicron does so much for you it turns you into a push button tester.
You forgot to mention, is there an embarrassing number of beeps when you open-circuit the current output?
Oh my god yes! It's terrible. Though I think I forgot to mention that was my favorite benefit over the 6150 was that you can program how loud the beeper is.
Your rant has me rolling 😂😂😂
@electricianu Dustin! Go high voltage with Joel! You gotta check this guy out. get with Joel holland for a collab !!! Please!!!!
We've had a couple presentations from Doble trying to push the F8. Our consensus as a group was, it has some cool gimmicky colored light rings and is worse in basically every other way. We use our F6150's on IEC61850 with GOOSE (No SV yet) and they work fine. We were missing the hands on demo of an F8 but I'm glad after seeing your first experience that we made the right decision to not pursue the F8.
Agreed. The 6150 is such a good test set, I'm not sure what the push was to abandon it for F8.
Seems like they focused too much towards bench testing/manufacturer testing. When we’re working in the field, we don’t want to deck around with changing modules or troubleshooting our test equipment. Just give me a product that works the way it is. I’m supposed to be testing and troubleshooting relays, not test sets.
Couldn't agree more.
Shermco?
Yup. It's going well so far, compared to my last few gigs!
@@testingtechtipsthat’s where I work too, great company.
Good to hear, I love working for Shermco. Well rounded teams all around. Glad to have you aboard.
Zeus the god or son of god .
good stuff, thanks for taking the time.
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful.
Hey, Joel. Do have any videos with the Multilingual 889 series?
Sorry, nothing on the 889 yet. I make about one video a month so it'll take a while to work my way down the list.
I really hope "Whats for lunch?" is mentioned somewhere in the middle of the video.
A manta 5100 makes me the tech I think I am 😩
Awesome video,Sir. Thank you.
Of course! Thanks for the support.
I swear i learn more from you than i ever did from ShermcoU back when i worked for them. Not officially a Neta 2 but gonna test for it soon with the new company im at. But great video man
My biggest complaint with most "training" classes has always been that they're too vague, and you can't take what you learned and immediately use it in the field. One thing I focus on is lasering in on one topic with real examples, start to finish just like I'd train guys in the field. Thanks and good luck on your test!
Good video! I will say Powermetrix makes a phatom load test set that makes meter testing even easier
I've seen the Powermetrix units used for in-service checks. I'm assuming they work almost exactly the same way.
@testingtechtips They can do both in service and they have a waveform generator. They spit out a nice looking report as well. The software runs windows xp and is kind of janky but after it's all set up it's really convenient. Powermetrix Powermaster 7 series
I'll check it out! Thanks!
I hate how everything has a warning label now
Are you talking about the disclaimer at the beginning of my videos?
You're doing an amazing service to the NETA community, keep up the excellent work. I recommend your channel to everyone I can.
Hey thanks! I appreciate the support!
Thank you for putting the work in to do these videos. Learning alot and proven things I think I know.
Happy to help, and thanks for the support!
Thank You
Happy to help!
Thanks a lot. As someone who is weak in math, what type of formulas do I need to know? Or is there much math on the neta level 2 test?
There is definitely some math. If you have the fundamentals of algebra down and can solve power equations (ohms law), parallel/series resistors and capacitors, then you should have enough to pass the exam.
Thank you for this video! I have been a testing tech for around 6 months and before that I was an electrician for about 6 years. I have an associate's degree so hopefully my company will let me take the NETA 2 around my 1-year mark. I am glad that there is a channel out here that gets in depth with a niche field like this one.
Thanks, happy to help and good luck!
That's a great video. I really appreciate all the explanations. I am new to SEL products. Do you have a video about setting relay parameters such as CT ratio? Thank you
My videos are more tailored to the technicians doing the work in the field. Generating settings is definitely more of an engineering activity, but I'll have some videos covering a little of that scope as it relates to testing relays coming soon!
Thank you for sharing your experiences in Relaying testing. This is really important and helpful to a lot of relay tech . Great job. Now if you upload a video of ENOSERV RTS 7.1 much needed. See you soon. Keep up the good work.
I probably wont be making any RTS videos, for a few reasons. #1 I'm a protections suite guy. #2 the whole point of RTS is that it does all of the work for you and you're just a pushing buttons. In my relay testing series, I'll do my best to explain the concepts and help you understand the math behind what we're doing when we test relays. Hopefully that'll make the steps RTS runs make more sense. If you need immediate help with RTS they have some very good paid training classes.
For a guy that claims "I am not an engineer", you ably prove that you don't have to be to be engaged in your craft. great job.
Haha thanks, I mostly use it as a caveat in case I get the facts wrong. (The comment section is always smarter than I am!)
Hi in our substation , we have this switch in the incomers and tie and also in the mcc outgoings. But not in the triristor and feeders outgoings. Could you help me understand why some outgoings has this switch and other not?
Man I'm sorry but I don't have anywhere near enough detail on your specific application to help you with that one.
thank you!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching
Hello, is it safe to retrieve the settings file from an active relay of a running motor?
For most modern relays, if you are only downloading the settings from the relay to your computer, it should be fine. I would suggest against it if the motor powers something critical, but for most cases yes. You would want to take the relay out of service to install new settings as they may occasionally trigger outputs when new settings are loaded in. That said, you're doing it at your own risk so get a thumbs up from whoever runs the site.
I don't comment on many videos but yours are fantastic and always cover all of my questions. Thank you!
I appreciate that and I'm glad to help!
For s Siemens system, do we need to disconnect the load side conductors of the breaker for arc flash reduction switch testing?
It depends how you're testing it and if you've properly isolated the system upstream.
Great Channel. Relay Tech for the power company in my area. Respect from Washington D.C. 🤝👍
Awesome! Glad to have the support
No that is not correct Arcing current is not 40 percent of bolted fault current, Arcing current percentage variation depend upon the k factor which is computed by taking into account the electrode configuration and other factors reference ieee 1584 2018
I have to go off the few sources I've read including NFPA 70E D.3.1 which calls out the "industry accepted minimum" arcing current as 38% of bolted fault current. I preface that oversimplification by stating I'm not an engineer because it's absolutely not my area of expertise and is clearly not a key takeaway from this video.