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Following your own advice, you might benefit from some research on me before posting? For example, the introductory video to this channel? I'm sorry to disappoint you but I don't need your authority figures to validate my work. I do look forward to collaborating with them on these very important topics which I trust they are all fully engaged with.

@@TheEmptyChairMind I watched all your videos before making my comment but I watched them on premiere so I probably forgot what was in those videos. I am just curious if you discussed your theory with some other psychologists and Jungians. Those aren't my authority figures, they just came to my mind because you are mentioning Jung in your videos and I thought that would be interesting collaboration. You didn't disappoint me but I didn't expect so defensive response on such neutral questions, I am not a native speaker and I didn't mean to offend you. Good luck with your work.

Both parents are very important in the psychological development of a child. However, I previously commented in an interview on Adam Lanza who shot his mother dead before he conducted the Sandy Hook massacre. Could you reduce that level of aggression to merely his relationship with his mother? Now extend that to the examples I have given in previous videos about misogyny acts in rape and murder, sexual abuse, domestic violence and institutional discrimination. Perhaps that requires a different analytic starting point - which is what I am attempting here?

how do you know I haven't researched it? Because I'm not a feminist?

yes, generalisations are a problematic in any discipline. Does that make it impossible? Given the problem of misogyny, we have to start somewhere?

I agree. I was responding to the criticism of being too general in my argument. Gender and society level issues are hard to talk about without generalizing.

@@adifferentlight5530 ah! - sorry - I misread your statement.

You forget the male brain? We are all one in consciousness. Male brain , we are just different in lifestyle cultures and how we think! It’s not generalization it’s a fact

why do you want me to do a presentation on misandry when I haven't even opened up or explained misogyny, let alone racism and fascism which this channel was set up for? Isn't it the task of men to work together to analyse and attempt to resolve our lunacy, before we make pronouncements about women's psychology? I would welcome any comments that you or other men have about any knowledge gaps or errors in my work. This is a collaborative endeavour and I don't have all the answers. But perhaps one step at a time - with the first step being ourselves as men?

@ did my suggestion trigger you? i’ve already said for balance and relevance but if you want more: if you did the same for misandry, not only would it give you a better understanding of misogyny, so you can deliver your message better, but by showing you’re coming from a balanced and neutral place, you’ll engender more trust and engage men better. You’ll actually get your message across to your desired audience. Unless of course you’re just trying to pander to women. Further, I speak for “black” men who have been called inherently violent, told they need to be re-educated/civilized, and implied to be predators historically here in the west. Feminists have gone to perpetuate the exact same messages with zero regard for this, thinking if they insult white men enough it’ll erase the abuse they have doled out to their own allies. Just read the comments under this video. There are a lot of bullies here and in 2025 it’s to time correct this. This is not 1995, where your message belongs. Any overt misogyny you see today is in response to f*male bullies/abusers. You’re also undermining the work of men who’ve already spread your message ad nauseam.

​@@peterGnashwhy are you trying to tell Pravin how to run his channel, tf. Make your own channel, L. 😂

@@peterGnash Misandry is a response to misogyny. Look around can you blame women for disliking men. It’s like asking why does the gazelle hate lions

@@peterGnash thanks for contextualising your comment about misandry. I'm working in a tradition that has been repeatedly rejected by both society and the medical world, so definitely not interested in pandering to women or starting a men's movement. And I wasn't triggered. What I saw was an incapacity to process the violence and destruction of men when isolating and then analysing it psychologically, just as you would in a chemistry lab if you were trying to identify and understand a volatile and dangerous chemical substance. You would want to examine its structure, properties and predictable characteristics before trying to find solutions to fix it. To do that, you isolate it? So the need to speak about misandry seems to be a psychological need in men - something that I hope to look at in the next video. For now, I'll just say that it repeats a dependency on women in order to appear balanced, when psychologically what is happening is a deflection. When a chemist is analysing a volatile chemical substance, you usually don't ask them to be balanced. Hopefully, you are interested in the analysis? Once the analysis is over, the next step would be integration rather than misandry. That integration will hopefully help men not to step into misandric relationships or behaviours, but sustain more positive relationships from a secure psychological base. I'm sorry if you find my content repeated ad nauseam. I'm just analysing - I'm not trying to be original. Thanks for your comments and your time.

yeah but we’re also the same species. this is what the women on this page (including the presenter) are missing

No this is just how humans reproduce. It's biologically how it's always been, not a measure of whatever "success" you think it is. Women are selecting for the best genetics -is it possible for everyone to be the best? Obviously not. Do we want them to reproduce? Obviously not. Men aren't born valuable, it has to be earned through successes in the world. Women are as they have the ability to iterate through time. The mistake that is getting made here is thinking that this is a world made by men, it's not. Physically produced by men through work yes, by shaped by women through literally all of time of human existence. Women have the reigns and always have. No one believes women to be inferior. But no one believe men are either we are different and not supped to be the same.

thanks for that great insight. You can see the "transpersonal" position very clearly. The difficulty for men particularly is to get there through the shadow work. Otherwise a dysfunctional ego gets hold of transpersonal energy and that leads to quite disastrous outcomes. I hope this channel will finally get there - but there is a lot of preliminary psychological work to be done on the shadow?

I think it's better to keep scientific rather than esoteric terminology. A woman is not some kind of portal to the atman or the soul. And once again, how should this affect men's fear of women or feelings of inferiority? Both sexes are necessary to create life. It is only in union that the act of creation takes place. And before the threshold of death, both men and women are equal. There has been very little research on death and what happens after it, and there is practically no answer to this question. And it is unlikely that it will ever exist.

​@@FlaiderX you wouldnt know because youre not a woman. The average mother has attributes that are closer to Godlike attributes than any man and his attributes every existed, lmao.

@@FlaiderX I forgot to respond to your scientific bias as a form of skepticism. Vol 8 of Jung's Collected Works "The Structure and Dynamics of the Psyche" worked from biology and physics to find both evidence and analogies for how the psyche might operate in a close (perhaps identical) relationship between psyche and soma. Jung did a lot of work with Wolfgang Pauli, and prior to that work, Gustav Fechner also attempted to use physics as an analogy for the mind (psychophysics) ie energy is invisible but can be measured in how it manifests materially. So you may find that volume interesting as well - separate to the archetypal work. Jung also discusses synchronicity as an acausal principle of time in that volume. If you look up "paranormal research" there are a lot of studies on life after death - to me they are of marginal interest given my clinical work dealing with the living rather than the dead - but research is available and Jung also had his encounters with the paranormal, although it was in symbolic form ("The Red Book"). I do have the video prepared for the question of science and psyche - but that is for much later, I'm afraid.

@ Understood. Thank you. The message of the previous comment in this thread was rather not that. I really don't know much about psychoanalysis, and therefore I have a skeptical grain in relation to it. But your recommendations are interesting. I will definitely study them as soon as I have time. As for my comment above, it did not apply to psychoanalysis. If Jung really approached the study of certain aspects of the human psyche from a scientific point of view, then this is quite interesting to me.

Comparing misogyny to misandry is like comparing apples to oranges. Misandrists do not use violence, r@pe, murder, abuse,war, genocide, torture, gang r@pe, financial abuse as a method of expressing their inner shadow inferiority. But then , I do not expect you to even comprehend what he is trying to point out. I doubt you even had the patience to watch 10 minutes of the video. To understand what he is saying is to accept that the male species has killed his fellow man, woman , children and animals for millennia. As Sebastian Kraemer , child & adolescent psychiatrist implied, “Maleness, is a genetic disorder”

​@@kaliversuspatriarchywrong , there's a forum of Korean misandrists that encouraged the raping of a 14 yeard old boy in australia by a korean women and after the fact they financed her trail and defended her actions

thanks for these great insights. Developmentally, you are quite right in working through the parental imago figures in the psyche. My worry is that when men talk about the feminine (Mother) it is too easy to distract from the realities of our masculine shadow? So I wanted to isolate the analysis in a way that men don't to see what we can understand about ourselves. And the biological component becomes as important as the primary parental relationships. Thanks so much for listening. Looking forward to more of your thoughts!

@ sure but in 2025 i’m not sure this is so relevant. I think the pressing concern is the monstrous growth in narcissism among women which is perpetuating repression in men which is leading to said shadow. Ie it’s the female shadow that needs to be addressed and its issues nipped in the bud. In Addition being solution oriented, one must face and forgive their mother. Otherwise this knowledge is useless and only serves to feed said narcissism (just see this comment section, the delusion and self importance is unbearable).

@@kaliversuspatriarchysure sure reread your comment tell me that’s not misandry. These are strawmans and false dichotomy type of arguments you make but i doubt you have the intellect to process such a contradiction. in fact when kali holds the head of shiva while standing on his body, this is the precursor of female narcissism and misandry. It’s not ironic that you identify with her.

Right. P orn is 'twisted reality'. The women in the images are welcoming, inviting and never say no or later. They are truly worshiping the 'image of the beast'. Edit: not that women are beasts. Thinking more in terms of JESUS saying our flesh is beast like.

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women suffer from envy

Of course just like with people of color. Yte men are so fragile that they had to built a whole systen and push it down everybodys throat for centuries to make the whole world believe theyre superior, while they mostly just stole and plundered to silence their feelings of inferiority. You dont do that if you already KNOW youre better.

​@@peterGnashenvy from men, yes.

There is no man superior to me. I’m not superior to any man or women.

This brings to mind the early days of feminism, when women were saying that (g)rape benefits all men & that's why men don't want to confront the problem. No man has ever asked his buddies, "hey have you ever (g)raped anybody?" even though SA statistics indicate that a majority of men have had a (g)rapist in their circle of friends and acquaintances. Men went nuts when they heard that because they felt falsely accused. What the women were pointing to is that (g)rape keeps all women in a state of fear, and all men get a leg up in the hierarchy for being protectors.

An interesting thought. But in fact, yes, all people strive to be needed. Both men and women. But I'm not entirely sure about your statement about the uselessness of men in the absence of a threat. They say men are needed only for protection. To be honest, this is a controversial position. If we look at the activities of society, then society is very actively exploiting men's labor and without it the infrastructure would be destroyed. The only question is when and under what circumstances men genuinely consider themselves needed. Someone finds himself taking care of his children. Someone is at work. It all depends on the individual.

Always been. Same goes with rules or law people see it is absolutes while its just guidelines

@@FlaiderX women strive more to be wanted because our role as child bearers makes us needed. Perhaps men sense their superfluous nature biologically and are trying to justify their importance. That is from the survival based mindset. Part of evolving past mere survival is getting past need and neediness based relationships. What would we do if our basic needs get met? We’d have to invent something to focus on.

@ Maybe. Or maybe not. In fact, quite a lot of men also strive for children and their upbringing, showing their paternal instincts and feelings (I am one of them). And not all women strive to have children (every year there are more and more such women). Women don't feel needed because they're giving birth. It doesn't take much to give birth. The body is initially designed for this. The main work is raising children. This is probably where women find themselves and consider themselves needed. That's the way it is in our society. But we can't exclude men from this equation. Millions of men raise their children and see this education as their goal. And with women, everything is not so simple, because more and more women find less and less satisfaction and this "necessity" of yours in education. Even after giving birth, a woman may well not feel this "need". Well, that's just thinking. The versatility of the human mind is amazing. One way or another, there are thousands of assumptions that can be made. Everyone strives to be needed and find a place in this world. It can be parental care, creativity, hobbies, and much more. Anyway, my initial comment challenges your thesis that men allegedly have no "need." In order to draw such conclusions, it is worth collecting massively large statistics. For "necessity" is an absolutely subjective term and for everyone it will be expressed in different guises. Statements like: men are not peaceful, are also, in my opinion, absolutely false. Someone wrote here that generalizing is wrong, etc. So, generalizing is really wrong. Otherwise, I've said everything I wanted to say. I have nothing more to add. But in essence, if I understood the end of your main comment, then yes, with generations, over time, the trend you are talking about may gradually change. For example, it is already noticeable that men in any case (ON AVERAGE) began to pay more attention to children. Men and women began to differ less in empathy (judging by meta-analyses). Although the self-reports haven't changed much yet. Etc. Everything is changeable.

Very true. I was never interested in coddling the male ego, so I never learned how. Although there were good things in my relationships, I eventually left them because I held them to standards of conduct and emotional intelligence that men are just not skilled at. I felt dissatisfied, they felt devalued and defeated. My friends who stayed in their marriages acknowledged that it took a lot of work and lowered expectations, and I was so disappointed in the language they used to describe their husbands' stunted development, like they were trained monkeys or something. I can't help wonder "Is this it for human beings? Aren't we capable of more than this?" I'm learning to think like Previn, seeing this as a historical movement, a sea change in human psychology where men are being forced by the pain of isolation to begin self-reflection. I see positive changes with each new generation, so there's hope.

Yes. I can kind of understand what they're talking about. But there is no need to generalize. Men also have problems with your female ego. Judging from my experience and that of my male colleagues in my country, the female half of humanity is often unpleasant. It's not that simple with a woman's ego. It is often difficult for us to resist him, and we are forced to make concessions (to be "knights", to appease, etc.). In the future, I would like to study the female ego and shadow in order to better understand how to coexist with women. Because here, in the comments, women present themselves as exceptional victims, which they are not.

​​@@FlaiderXHistorically and sociologically there is no denying that women have been exploited by men.

@@stellai06 Ummm. 1) You can. 2) Men were also exploited by society. The times of the past are a class society. The rich rule the poor. I doubt that a woman from a rich family was exploited by men from the middle or lower classes (which is 90% of the population). I understand it's important to talk about women's issues. Women have been treated unfairly in the past. But I'll tell you what: do you think that society has not exploited men? In tsarist Russia, ALL men were obligated to serve for 20+ years in the army. The mortality rate is incredible. And if you want to say that it was men who exploited men, then no. Russia had many female rulers who also actively participated in wars. Women received bonuses for the fact that men served in the army and defended their country. Societies of the past actively exploited men and women. But each sex was used in its own way. This fact is simply indisputable, and your attempts to pull the blanket over women, in my opinion, look childish.

I found this to be woefully true when my so called feminist brother got irritated with my quiet leadership in the care of our dying father. I did everything for the family. Set everything up so my brothers could visit at leisure with our dad. It was my own husband that had to correct my brother. (I thought, 'dude, you SAY you are all for women leaders, but when one does lead, you get butt hurt'). I still find I have to tip toe around him or he will lose it.

These? ""misogyny (n.) "hatred of women," 1650s, from Modern Latin misogynia, from Greek misogynia, abstract noun from misogynēs "woman-hater," from miso- "hatred" (see miso-) + gynē "woman" (from PIE root *gwen- "woman"). Its opposite is philogyny (1620s)."" ''""*gwen- Proto-Indo-European root meaning "woman." It forms all or part of: androgynous; banshee; gynarchy; gyneco-; gynecology; gynecomastia; gyno-; misogyny; polygyny; quean; queen. It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit janis "a woman," gná "wife of a god, a goddess;" Avestan jainish "wife;" Armenian kin "woman;" Greek gynē "a woman, a wife;" Old Church Slavonic zena, Old Prussian genna "woman;" Gaelic bean "woman;" Old English cwen "queen, female ruler of a state, woman, wife;" Gothic qino "a woman, wife, qéns "queen."

This is fear. I know it's scary, but we can't worry about things that are outside of our control. That will erode your health over time. Trust that even more powerful benevolent forces are working in humanity's favor, and are overlooking Earth and all of its inhabitants. Having faith and trust in a divine higher power is what helps me find (and cultivate) peace. 💛 Love is the most powerful form of energy in the universe. Without love, we would cease to exist. Nothing would exist without love - even the darkness, even chaos. Love over Fear.

Putin's insecurity? Tell me, do you know a lot about politics? First you need to understand the causes of the conflict, so as not to write such nonsense that you are writing.

I’m more worried about Israel, the USA and the UK. They are lawless at the moment.

@@FlaiderX Most YT commenters will indicate which country they're from before trying to start a geopolitical fight. I'm in the U.S.A. - we struck out for independence from a country we no longer wanted to be a part of. Our owners at the time fought back, but we won. That's why we support a free Ukraine.

@@gtaylor6937

thanks for listening. I didn't want to get into alternative sexual identities because you have to establish the psychological frame first to anticipate all the emotionally reactive backlash from all sides of the debate. But these models of mind are not gender specific - so you would use the same frame, model, language but run it through the sexual variables of LGBTQIA and then clearly differentiate how the shadow is different in each group.

As an American black woman is this my opinion based on my anecdotal experience: I feel like men that are a part of the LBGTIA community also hate women just as much as hetero-men. However, because they are not sexually attracted to us they are not as sexually aggressive towards us. They are just as quick to get violent with women. However, I trust men that are a part of the LBGTIA community to defend me against another man before a heterosexual man will physically and verbally. They slightly (maybe because of increased estrogen) have more empathy for women than hetero. Just my opinion, not based on anything academic. I love that this topic is being explored by men. Men will only listen to men. Thank you for tackling the topic

​@@aging80sbaby just want to agree as a woman I've met plenty of misogynistic gays. They're probably more likely to bring the violence on themselves rather than externally.

thanks for listening. It feels very incomplete. It's linked to the next video on Freud's two drives, and then a follow up video to combine both models into a psychological statement about misogyny. I'm just not used to putting material together for a public audience so it's taking me a lot longer. But I'm relieved that it appears to be accessible.

thanks for listening. It's good to know that other men are working on this.

could you possibly share his name or work here?

@@TheEmptyChairMind His name was Lew Epstein, and he has since passed on. In the 80's and 90's he and his wife worked with couples in group settings to learn to communicate better. He went pretty deep into male fears that drive dysfunction in relationships. It felt pretty radical back then to hear a man putting the onus on men to own up to what they do to women. The practice of blaming and punishing women for their OWN failures, was often discussed and the men often relayed all the times they did this. The group got smaller over time because Lew continually said that when men have the humility to do this, it's the women's job to forgive for the relationship to get back on track. That got old over time as the women realized it created a vicious cycle - you screw up, I forgive, rinse and repeat. Many women left their relationships, and ultimately the group, including me. He made a big contribution to this topic but in the end, women still have to know when to leave. That was 40 years ago and today we have the "male loneliness epidemic" which I think is the natural progression of this problem.

@@cwest4370 thank you for sharing this really rich and valuable experience, even though it didn't appear to resolve the problem of male aggression. I'm glad you found a way to stay safe.

@@TheEmptyChairMind Yes the changes have to be transformative, not just more of "Yeah I'm a jerk but what can I do?"

yes, Karen Horney based her whole work on that. I never made the time for her that she deserves - but possibly someone who may interest you - unless you are already familiar with with her work?

This is just one of the hypotheses. In general, later researchers of the Oedipal conflict described envy of the penis and envy of the womb as two phenomena that both sexes have. Women also have envy of the womb (expressed in the form of envy of the mother), but it is expressed in slightly different features than men. Men also have envy of the womb (initially expressed in the form of envy of the mother). Envy of the penis is also initially expressed in the form of envy of the father (in both sexes). But later, boys and girls may have different ways of resolving these conflicts. Although both of these concepts have always seemed controversial to me. As it is, this term was coined by Karen Horney, but she did not develop it much. She introduced it as an antithesis of penis envy. In fact, it's purely feminist propaganda.

@@FlaiderX feminist propaganda or undeveloped thesis?

that would be my reading - he did not look at the shadow implications of male psychology in that model. However, if you work with that more as a metaphor of the physical and social superiority of men over women, then there could be an inferiority complex in women that corresponds to what he said? But what women did with that inferiority was to reclaim their strength. Men haven't even begun to see our inferiority at all. So how can we find any psychological strength that has confronted our shadow inferiority? Thanks for listening!

thank you so much for sharing this. There is a way out. But unfortunately there are no short cuts. Thanks for listening.

thank you. Please be patient with me as I am not used to speaking to a public audience and only take part in professional conferences or seminars. So it is hard to plan the content in the videos correctly. But there are more on the way..

@@TheEmptyChairMind We'll take anything. It doesn't have to be perfect. We just want to hear more from you. You're doing amazing!

@@TheEmptyChairMind I first heard you on the High Powered Podcast with Princella. I was fascinated and educated at the same time! I really appreciated the respect you both gave each other! I have found in my relationship with my husband of 35 years, that solid open, non judgmental communication is extremely important and enlightening!

Princella is a one of a kind!

I would be happy to work with the Chinese community remotely - but I think if I came to China I would be arrested at the airport?

@@TheEmptyChairMind lol. Pls don’t get arrested, I wait eagerly for your videos :)

@@kaliversuspatriarchy :)

thanks for this insight. It also illustrates why I keep restricting the analysis to "heterosexual men" because the psychological complexities of LGBTQIA are too variable to get into without a basic psychological framework. Also remember that I'm not defining the whole of masculinity, but just concentrating an investigation into the "shadow".

Take your trans theory somewhere else. He's not talking about that. He's talking about men and women in reference to biological sex.

Indeed

Do you think it is also biological? (we want children?) As an older woman, I no longer yearn for baby making. I would like meaningful friendship.

It depends on which "issues" you have in mind that need to be conquered? And that really needs a therapeutic space with someone you feel has the skill set and can track your unconscious contents? This means that it is hard to get that kind of psychological processing through books - but it is possible. Probably the best introduction would by Jung's "Two Essays on Analytical Psychology" mentioned in the previous video on Jung and the Shadow Psychology. After that you have two options. For a more positive take on the feminine, there is the Jungian Jean Shinoda Bolen who explores a number of images of the feminine archetype. You may also find Esther Harding, an early Jungian, interesting. However, they do not elaborate on the feminine shadow. For the second option, you can look up "the bad mother complex" here on RUclips and check out available videos on that. And then if you felt brave enough, Melanie Klein's "Love, Guilt and Reparation" or "Envy and Gratitude" are classics in our psychological relationship with our mother. But Klein may need some background to the Freudian framework (called his "metapsychology") which I will be doing a video on. And it may help to get some introductory literature on Klein first. Hope that helps.

@@TheEmptyChairMind Advise me, a man, what I can read on this topic. What do you think would be sufficient reading?

@@FlaiderX thanks for asking. Apart from the Bolen, you could attempt the same books I have just recommended here. But once you engage with the literature, it depends on what comes up in your unconscious contents - for which you need a skilled therapist who can track your unconscious contents. If you can be patient and follow the literature in my videos, you should have plenty of reading to be working on. I sense the Darian Leader book may be of particular help from the first half of the book. In psychoanalysis models of mind, they are not worked out as gender specific models, but were pioneering an understanding of shared mental characteristics that could explain mental health issues. You will see from my upcoming videos where I recommend specific literature that you need to know those models before applying them to masculinity. To my knowledge, this has not yet been done, and certainly not with the focus on shadow that I bring - although there are plenty of Jungian books on men (avoid Robert Bly) and particularly fathers. Please feel free to let me know your responses to anything I recommend or that you come across - and I hope you can be patient while I try to adapt my content for a public audience which is much more difficult than talking to those working in the field.

@@TheEmptyChairMind Thank you for your recommendations. Yes, I will be patient, although the comments under your videos certainly amuse and annoy me at the same time. I understand why, but it's still an interesting springboard for social research. As I have already said, I am a curious person, and in general, the topic of psychoanalysis has become more interesting to me (thanks to you, among other things). No matter how scientific or truthful I find it, I'm still a skeptic by nature. Another point of view or thought has always worried and interested me. I haven't had time to watch some of your recent videos yet. However, I am not English and do not speak English as a native speaker, so I have to use translators. But I'll do it soon. I would like to point out once again that I may not completely agree with you on everything, especially with regard to interdisciplinary statements and statements that are not related to psychoanalysis. But it doesn't distract me from the content, and I'd like to learn more... In general, I understand your position, and I would really like to study material that is not intended for men or women. To get to the bottom of it. I tried to read Eric Neuman, but to be honest, I wasn't satisfied with what he wrote. That's why I left him almost immediately. But based on your recommendations, I will try to find these books, perhaps they are in my native language, and read them. Thanks again for the recommendations. If I'm interested in something or have any questions, I can ask them, right?) I hope you will forgive me my English or, again, slightly incorrect words and expressions that you consider offensive. Once again, I don't want to offend anyone. Thank you and my low bow to you) Yours sincerely, Тау

@@FlaiderX your amusement and annoyance are of great interest to me as a psychotherapist - but this is not the right space to engage with them. I think from a previous comment you said you were Russian? You may find the work of Sabina Spielrein in Russian (she started the Russian Psychoanalytic Association and died in Riga) - she was a patient of Jung and then gave Freud the idea of the death instinct which moved him away from his bio-sexual models into group psychology and its destructiveness. Neumann was writing for a Jungian audience so you need the Jungian basics. There is a collection of Jung edited by Anthony Storr - I'm not sure if it is available in Russian.... Any interdisciplinary work always creates objections from purists or from partial understandings that are required for it to be interdisciplinary. The objective then is to work together and improve the model? You can always use the contact form on the website if you have specific queries. Good luck - and thanks for being here!

See. This is what I do not understand about the Genesis account. Adam is with 'god', creator, knower of everything. Why was Adam considered to be 'alone' ("it is not good for the man to be alone: I will create a help mate for him.") And then we are told that 'god' is all we need! And then Adam throws Eve under the bus.

thank you. Have you written up any of your work or got it published?