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Hello I don't your name but if you answer I'd be so glad. There is a confusion between upper case "i" and lower case "l" in sans serif fonts that's why I researched fonts but there aren't so many fonts which don't have this confusion so I mean why they don't make fonts with a distinctive "l" charachter?

A study about legibility, not preference would have been more informative.

Bro! Check out ‘Anek’ by Ektype and you’ll unlock a whole another dimension

Not a bad font honestly, although there are a lot of technical problems and inconsistencies inside this typeface…

M, W or Z / y or stethoscope? #SmashingConfFreiburg ;)

Can I suggest "Typ1451" by Lineto

But these alternative fonts are nothing like Quicksand... ☹

Asap slaps as always! Omnibus FTW.

If you are looking for content ideas, I'd love to see you cover programming fonts. In recent years, there has been an explosion of monospace fonts supporting beautiful, and easy to read ligatures for common character combination found in code. The font that made ligature popular is named Fira Code, but there are many more. Lately there is also a new trend where some fonts having a completely different typeface for italics. Popular coding editor themes like VS Code use italics for certain programming keywords, and these fonts will make those look more visually distinct compared to plain old slanted characters. For example, the free Recursive font ("Rec Mono Duotone" variant) supports this. Common paid fonts that support this are Monalisa, Cartograph CF, and Operator Mono

May I suggest Arial Rounded MT? /s

it would be better if Alanna had an option to draw and show what she is talking about, when you are discussing the typefaces. She seems very nice. Good new knowledge, thanks

Do you think bricolague grotesque is good for an AI powered customer platform - like hubspot

I LOVE YOU MAN!!!!!!

I absolutely love it

I think nextjs by default uses Inter and i suspect a lot of products by default using it with next are in trouble now

I wondered about that yesterday, I set text to inter and I didn't look right. Thanks for the info

Damn i missed the live stream :(

I was able to learn so much from this session, thanks so much to the both of you for sharing your time and knowledge with us. Also, thanks for making this available to those of us who couldn't join it live. :)) 🤓

Very informative session! Thank you for doing this, Oliver and Nina. The mutual roasts were fun to watch, and while we can't do that over and over again, it's generally always useful to see site reviews, especially when they focus on one area like accessibility.

Thank you for having such an informative session. It was incredibly insightful and provided valuable information on how to make spaces and experiences more inclusive for everyone 🙏

Hot take: If you're designing for the web to the pixel, you're doing it wrong. Every style is a suggestion to the browser, and any declaration can be changes or ignored by it, either because of bugs, updates, add-ons or user preferences. If your design breaks because of small font metrics changes, it was already broken to a lot of users out there.

your shirt is infuriating and i’m here to take the engagement bait. I don’t mind the typo as much as the keming lol. them being a joke together.. that’s just rubbing salt in the wound

The moment they stopped letting me pick specific sizes is when it died

I have yet to see a website, where i decline cookies, change its font because of that. And i refuse to believe they all selfhost their fonts. So arent tons of sites breaking GDPR simply because of that?

I'm always using fontsource's packages with a pinned version to prevent this.

They did it with Roboto and they’ll do it again. Download your most important fonts, and better, DON’T DESIGN IN A WAY THAT DEPENDS ON THE FONT USED!

hey, I don’t know if it’s intentional, but your shirt says Typo graHper, I think it supposed to be Typo graPher

Always self-host your fonts, never trust and relay on third parties, avoid your users being tracked by those third parties, and that includes... never let third parties like Google Fonts auto-update your fonts and broke your site. Own your content.

LOL

The ending was so cute 😆

Thanks for almost 30K views in 3 weeks, your likes, and comments 🙌! But I was WRONG 😳. Google Fonts updated Inter to Version 4 right when I released the video. This brings some problems. I released an update how to fix them here: ruclips.net/video/_WBGIbRwYd8/видео.html.

4:00 I do not find the font (viewed fullscreen on a 13'' laptop) tiny. In fact, I have scaled down the OS font size to match similar sizes and find it perfectly acceptable. Less font = more content on screen.

Optical sizing and new italics are awesome but I also don't really love the alternates.

I personally like the shortened t and f but I'm not sure if I like it amongst the other letters. I also generally lean towards a lack of subtlety in fonts so I enjoy it for that reason.

New subscriber. I buy that that this is the MacDaddy of UI Fonts, Any recommendations for T-shirt Fonts? :D

While it is a good-looking font, I think it should stay clear of user interfaces for the time being. UI fonts should be focused on legibility and acessibility across a number of different devices, display sizes, and dimensions. Inter, Helvetica, and fonts like like Apple's San Francesco only look good on print or high dpi aplications, suffering from poor legibility at lower display scales without using too agressive hinting, and even then they still can't come anywhere clear the legibility of fonts like Clear Sans, DejaVu Sans, Noto Sans, Roboto, IBM Plex Sans and B612 which where all designed with computer interfaces and legibility in mind. Gnome developers recently proposed changing their purpose-made UI font, Cantarell, with Inter and while a good portion of supporters are onboard with it, I, and many others, think its a massive regression both in recognisability and accessibility by having a font that js both less unique and identifiable but also less readable and accessible. It's the same sentiment I had when apple moved away from Lucida Grande to Helvetica on most of the OSX interface. Helevtica was not only less reconizable as it was a more generic style of sans serif, but it was also less readable due to its letter shapes and stroke widths, as well as kerning and spacing being designed for print, rather than for digital displays. Although it matched Lucida Grande in it also being a print-first font, its more unique letter shapes, more recognizable ascenders and descenders, and looser spacing made it more suitable for computer displays than Helvetica was. While it is hard to objectively measure a font's readability and accessible, the choice between one typeface or another shouldn't boil down to "its trendy" or "looks good".

Heh, it's not everyday you see one typographer roast another. Sorry if I enjoy this, Oliver! 😄

Very exciting! I've used Inter before but haven't paid much attention to it. It turns out that Inter has a very robust and complex structure

I'm glad the algorithm did some justice for you this time Oliver :), but I gotta admit that the thumbnail and the title were enticing hehe

It’s not a good reason - and a bit snobbish - to discredit a font, because everyone uses it . remind that you aren’t never completely unique when it comes to choices for UI design . Think twice when you comment to prevent for sounding posh

IMDB scale rating: 7.6. Audience: 8.4. But I am kinda grumpy you know, so nothing personal.

What is the app that you are using to show off font feature? like the optical sizing slider

please we need more of this type of content

I don't think what you said about google fonts is true. A week ago my website broke because I'm using inter with italics. All of a sudden, the google fonts api returned 404 and my website didn't work anymore. It appears google updated inter over night and broke my website, removing the slant axis form the variable font.

Very hipster of you to tell people to avoid fonts just because they are popular. Also, editing comment, it would be nice if you showed examples and difference on screen for longer to give people more time to digest these sometimes subtle difference. You can do fade effects between them or put them above and below each other or side by side. But I have to pause your video every time to get a better grip of what you are trying to highlight.

authentic sans is my favorit

Please do more review content. Would definitely love a tech review style channel but for fonts>>>

Inter just solved all the problems i had with it. Great video, tells every change in short. btw, i can't access the optical sizing in Figma, how do i do that ?

It is so helpful to refer to some experimental knowledge. Thank you for going beyond reproducing acritically some marketing claims focused on a "captive segment of the population." The nonplus ultra would be to add some references to the studies you talked about to give us a chance to check their methodology and, therefore, the validity or at least scope. 😊

Intriguing. Might need a minor rename so systems recognize it as a separate font from inter classic and prevent website text formatting from being altered.