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@@dennistennyson4540 Those were good times reading articles by Skeeter and Elmer. I remember reading a story Skeeter wrote titled “The Treasure of Turkey Track”. He was getting a SA worked on by a fellow that had lots of spare parts. That caused my brother and I to order numerous barrels and cylinder’s for the single actions, probably over $700 in the 70’s. Still have them, but wishing I’d have bought two pythons instead. O.R.

I've been telling my son for twenty+years (or course he thinks I'm one beer short of a 6-pak), that we won't need to travel to Mexico to see how they live. Just start playing their music here. I could afford to buy primers by the 5K bricks in the 70's - $29.00. Close to $400 today. Was glad gov said that inflation was only 2.5% this year, and that wages have outpaced it... Maybe that wall has another purpose; don't need a north one, who wants to go that way. O.R.

@@dennistennyson4540 Thanks for the info. Turns out that I have used them before in other 38 guns and they are fine. They seem to be hit and miss as far as supply, but not in quality. I found the “zero” swaged to do as well, and a tad better in one gun. They have a slight taper at the base which in a nice feature when starting in the seating operation. Their availability was much better, and better price I believe. Sold by Rose Distribution, they also have a good selection of other bullets. O.R.

@@drivesideways6550 Glad you enjoyed it 👍. O.R.

@@taurushipointenthusiast1306 Thanks. Right, so would I. This one belongs to my brother. Midway had a sale on them probably 7-8 years ago. Think he paid $250, and he suggested I get one. Not that I’ll not cheap, just always been short on cash, short on brains and certainty short on other stuff. If it had been mine the sights might have been changed. Low could be fixed, but that windage issue on a SA usually means turning the barrel for correction. Anyway it surly shot good and surprised me. O.R.

@@oldranger3044 Yes sir I`d like to get one of them, I like to find it at the brothers price...hahahahahah looked the other day and cheap at double the price what he paid hahahahahah

Yeah there seems to be some voodoo that occurs between 25 and 50 yards, like you said, tight groups at 25 yards don't always equate to tight groups at 50 yards. I run custom match barrels in 1:16 for revolver (100g SWC) and 1:24 for pistol (115g SWC) and both can hold the x-ring at 50 yards with their pet loads, and have shot a few points shy of a perfect 240 in sanctioned competition. We need more guys like you in Australia, not many decent PPC/action gun builders left, and those that are left have big backlogs.

@@docholiday5385 Yes, and a gun that can hit where it’s aimed has fascinated me since I was a kid. I sort of envy your past and level of skill and knowledge to have created those style guns. And yes, an inch group at 20 doesn’t mean a 3 inch at 60. For some reason however there seem to be some that are actually able to improve (right gun and load) when they shoot further out. I’m not one of them because I think distance psychologically affects me. But my backstop is set for the shorter distance and since I no longer compete at 25 or 50 it suits what I’m doing. If the black powder guns can’t hold at 21, then their probably going to get real nasty at 50, and more distance is right out. Thanks so much for your comments and information. O.R,

@@TehBr0 I shot the Bianchi for years and met some of your colleagues, I was kidding them about having it made, running out to the outback with a few guns and having fun.. We don't have much here in the states, but the 2nd ammendment is all we have. I couldn't believe how anti gun you have it there. Anywhere the king or queen has touched, like canada. Here only police get to shoot PPC for real, so the rest of us shoot anything else. I had a business, building 1911's for bullseye shooters when it was in it's heyday and Bianchi guns. I used Barsto & Kart for the 1911's and Shilen or Douglas, 1:14 for the Smiths. H&G 68's or Zero 185's for the .45s and Zero or Speer for 38's. The secret was the powder and how much you put in. I did 9mm also, with Zero 115's. It was possible to get .75 to 1.5 inch groups at 50yds with all. The Ransom rest wiggles too much for .45acp 230 grain hardball. The results are false, so I built a barrel tester instead. Most else will work in low pressure loads in the rest. I hope you guys are hanging in there. I remember reading about how Soros's gal Rebecca Peters went to your country and tried to shut it down with guns. Best of luck.Jodi is back in the game. She shot the Bianchi this year. It's a great match of skill.

@@benpeirce2531 Thanks, but you’d have plenty of time to take cover while I’m loading and setting up for the shot. Not to mention finding my shooting glasses 🤓, adjusting sand bags and slowly squeezing the trigger. Happy new year. O.R.

That's what I thought. Check out Graf & Sons. It's apparently now called "Black". About the third review the fellow says that it is what Alliant discontinued. I can't say for sure, but can say that they don't give it away. O.R.

@@johnt.chambers4204 Thanks. Thats an interesting idea. I wasn’t aware that the S&W 38 was different than the 38 special but saw the video where Duelist 54 explained it. If the mold will cast maybe a.361 and most of the percussion barrels are.360, that might be enough to improve things. Appreciate your comment about this.

I agree. They won't turn it into a target style gun, but sure keeps them on the target. O.R.

@@davidlayne8755 David, thanks for the tip. O.R.

@@grassroot011 Yes, poorly cast bullets can’t help things. With all that’s going on with these types of guns, I feel that unless there was a pretty good sized air pocket, slight wrinkles or casting are not what gives issues. Just consider the target where most were tumbling. I suppose someone could conclude that was because of improper cast or defects. Turns out that would be a mile off. I have shot swaged wadcutters from a custom gun using a Ransom rest, and still they don’t all end up in one hole. But again yes, and thanks for drawing attention to this, but flyers, or those out of the group, I believe are probably due to something else. More likely a non centered hole in the base, or the marks the clamping device left that held the bullet while the base was being bored. O.R.

@@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV Hi, thanks for the info. I understand that you have provided molds in the past, but not sure if they are still available. Is there a source for them? Appreciate any help on this. O.R.

It's an amazing barrel that he (Davis) put on the gun, along with the other work. Recently I put back the original sight system, with is amazing itself. There is a slide at the front sight that allows for quick adjustment for distance. Seven, twenty five, and fifty Yards. There are separate adjustments for height at each position, so once zeroed for the ammo, just a flick with the finger and it is zeroed for the next distance in the competition. Now the rage is 3 gun, ok, but guess I like the old stuff, just couldn't move fast enough to compete modern. (It's probably more lethal, but sorry, got to say I'm too old to have got caught up in the black plastic zone). O.R.

@@oldranger3044 We still shoot PPC here in Australia, and the guns are quite similar in setup to yours, though the Aristocrat sight ribs now put the 3 settings at the rear sight, not the front, and operate via a dial rather than a slide. I've tried the run and gun games, but prefer the precision of PPC and similar matches. Thanks again for the video.

@@TehBr0 Great, thanks for your letter folks know what’s going on down under. You folks have a nice summer. O.R.

@@TehBr0 nice article I saw on Jodi Lyall from your country.. Team Bianchi!!

@@docholiday5385 I know who you're talking about, I've never met her, but understand she had an injury that put her out of the game for a while, but has overcome it and is now competing again. We have some very good Action 1920 shooters here that give a good account of themselves when over in the States.

@@kimoldham3328 Ok, that sure interests me. Would be nice to know a little more history of the gun: such as date code (usually a couple of letters stamped on the frame. When you got it and if it was used. Not prying, just interested in why there is a difference. Thanks for the comment. O.R.

@@Everythingblackpowder Thanks Jake. I was thinking about the same. Then I tried some that were pure lead rather than my usual range lead hardness (probably about 10), those didn’t work so well. They were more difficult to machine, more like stiff butter. Anyway it says I believe that other things besides wadcutter bullets have possibilities if hollow based. Have a great New Year’s party, wishing I could be with you guys where what little rules there are, it’s Black Powder that rules. O.R.

Thanks, I'll have to check that out. Ya, usually don't want to get much into the loads or powder used. Have read somewhere that RUclips frowns on that. These were pretty much the standard low power wadcutter loads used by most target shooters. Thanks for the comment. O.R.

@@martinkavanagh196 Thanks. That rain this time of the year here is a real pain here. Melts what little snow we have and then the frost goes down and could freeze up the septic, not to mention the water line from our spring. Boy, the wife will be pissed if she has to start hauling water from town to do the laundry, and if the septic quits, I can see a divorce won’t be far behind. Stay well, and keep one eye on the back side. O.R.

@@lelonbond6682 The ones I used were my normal cast from range lead, about 8-10 hardness. I then went to pure lead (which I’m pretty sure the HBWC is), thinking it would be better yet. Turned out that they didn’t machine well and results therefore were worse. O.R.

@@CandidZulu I used my metal lathe. Without that, it’s hard to center. Its labor intensive, and not very accurate, but did answer the question about being able to stop the tumbling. In the practical world, I’m just going to use the Hollow base wadcutters, which are pretty available. Sometimes Midway USA has Speer, I got mine from Rose Distribution (called the ZERO bullet). O.R.

​@@oldranger3044sorry about leaving my comment in the reply section, but it's not letting me leave a comment just straight in the comments idk why, but thank you for the info, I have the same Pietta 1858 36 cal, I absolutely love it! I am going to get a howel conversion cylinder very soon & I've been wanting to see someone do exactly what you just did so I could see how well the wadcutters engage the rifling. Thanks so much. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!

@@oldranger3044 Yes, a collett and a D bit seems to me the best approach.

@@deandeann1541 Right!! There’s lots of stuff that can use a GOOD pounding, hopefully some will get it. Thanks, yes I haven’t posted anything for a while. Have a couple I’m thinking about that might be interesting to some folks. O.R.

@@togray619 👍. O.R.

@@dorisjohnson8857 Great comment and question Doris. Metal lathe. I just eyeballed how far to run the drill in. It was sort of labor intensive. The bullets used for the test were my typical cartridge range lead hardness. Then I thought I’d get wise and use pure lead. Wasn’t one of my better ideas. It didn’t machine well, and shot worse. I did at least stop the tumbling to my satisfaction, other than that, not sure what was shown her. One commenter pointed out that to his (and mine) surprise, the slow twist seems to be able to stabilize the conicals, something I wasn’t thinking about. Always a faster (in this case smarter) gun. Have a great New Year. O.R.

@@oldranger3044 Happy New You you too 🙂 I guess that at 15-20 yrds a dead soft tumbling bullet might not be so bad defensively😄

@@dorisjohnson8857 As usual, you are so correct. Wild Bill might opt for the accuracy, but for most, more powder, and at night for self defense it’s probably that huge flash of light that will help to direct the next shot. Stay safe. O.R.

@@paulkopacz5051 Sorry I don’t know of any. I’m not sure if you’re aware, but Remington has a screw along the inside of the grip that allows regulation of spring tension. A neat feature. You can loosen it to the point where it probably wouldn’t set off the cap. O.R.

@@oldranger3044 Thanks and yes I am aware of the spring tension screw but mine has no effect whatsoever no matter how loose or tight I make it, the spring is ridiculously strong. I also just found out that nobody makes a wire trigger/bolt spring for the Remington either but I have never had a flat spring break on a Remington so maybe that's why they aren't made. I guess I'll just buy a few stock springs and thin them out to my desired weight. Thanks and good shooting!

@@cal9064 I’ve been disappointed with Pietta for not going faster in their 36’s. Lately I’m not so sure, even though overall I’d say a faster twist in that small caliber makes sense. Thanks for the comment. O.R.

@@StevenMMan Right on, Pietta. Actually the one shooting here is the neighbors and I suspect he or someone took some off the front sight as the Rems usually shoot low. As stock, probably would have been close to POA with the conicals. You’re right, 375 would be hugely over, especially when the chambers size the ball to closer to .368 (varies of course). Thanks for the comment and have a great New Year. O.R.

@@thorsaxe5881 Same to you Dave. You might have forgot that those fellows usually have lots of graphic and wild AC/DC (sorry, not my cup of music) or some form of it going on as an intro. I probably could work with that, but when advertised as an accuracy test being shot off hand, no rest, at an unspecified distance, I’m sorry, I get disappointed. Time separates Men from Boys. Distance separates shooting from noise. Nice to hear from you Dave, keep a low profile if the axe starts to swing. O.R.

You too, hope you are having a great new year. O.R.

Pietta used to sell a target model made with gain twist rifling - it was very expensive though. IIRC it was about 1/17 twist. I don't remember if it was a Colt or a Remington reproduction. Some original Colts were gain twist.

@@karsonbranham3900 I believe that is called the shooter’s model or something like that. Still available (or was) from Dixie Gun Works, it is in 44 cal. I agree with karson that it would be nice if Pietta had a faster twist, 1-30 seems slow, but at times have had decent results. Seems the new Uberti’s with the 1-16 do better on the average. O.R.

Is that right, that Pietta's use a 1:30" twist?

@@DarkMatterX1 My experience is Pietta has had the 1-30 in their 36 caliber guns. They also used it in their 44’s. They still use 1-30 in their 36 caliber models but have switched to 1-16 or maybe its 18 in their Remington models (44’s), but their 51’s in 44 are still 1-30, which is true I believe (too lazy to find mine) of their of their current 1860 Army. O.R.

Ya, and I had it for couple years, not it's back with my brother. O.R.

@@taurushipointenthusiast1306 I wasn’t aware that Ballistol is available in other than spray, will check it out. Thanks for posting your recipe. So, I assume you are doing the end of chambers, and the consistency is about like original crisco? O.R.

@@edwardjohnson3547 Just a heads up,and no reason to slow the purchase process, but for target (or hunting) at less than 100 yds, expect even after lowering rear sight to the max that it will shoot high. Mine did, and have heard this from others. Have a video on what I did, and sure there are other methods. Have a great Christmas. O.R.

@@bobsmoot2392 Thanks Bob, will keep trying to put out stuff that is interesting and informative. Appreciate hearing from folks that enjoy these types of videos. You have a nice Christmas. O.R.

@@mikebecker12 I’m getting a minimum of 1-66, maybe 1-70. Barrel is Orion, Montana company, thinking I purchased the barrel in the 90’s. Finished it around 98, so don’t recall exactly the twist rate. I think that company was connected to Montana barrel company and possibly one of them was using the Green River Rifle Works machinery, but don’t quote me on that. Thanks. O.R.

@oldranger3044 no thank you for the information. I have a 50.cal hawkin with a 1-66 twist. She's a great shooter with a round ball. Again yours is a beautiful piece. Fine workmanship. Take care, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

@@mikebecker12 👍. You too, have a great Christmas. O.R.

@@johnnelson9252 Dang right, thanks. And nobody figures feeding what is used to fatten hogs (I realize it’s not exactly the same) corn, will fatten the human population. Da. We ate, and drank (cool aid) as kids a lot of sugar, and most of us could still fit both legs into a car. O.R.

@@44hawk28 Ya, it still remains a mystery to me. I’m of course assuming that the replicas are close copies of the originals, without the gain twist rifling. One would assume the Army would have wanted all they contracted for to do about the same thing as far as sighting goes. Yet, both Army and Navy Colts shoot notorious high, while Remingtons shoot low. Folks will point out that the Military wanted them sighted for 100 yds, which makes little sense to me, but if so, then why did they accept Remingtons that might hit the horse in the leg when trying for a chest shot on the rider?? Thanks for your comment and advice. O.R.

@@healyburnham393 Thanks Sir, could you explain a little more about the three blade rear sight. That doesn’t ring any bells in what’s left in the O.R.’s brain. O.R.

@@Tater4200 Normally one would think so. The conical has the advantage of more weight with less surface area exposed to air friction, giving it higher energy and greater distance. The round ball is tough to beat in the accuracy department, especially in guns designed for it, and at close ranges. Would be interesting to hear from some of the top shooters in the NMLRA national matches held at Friendship Indiana as to what they shoot. I believe it is the round ball and some filler like corn meal. I tried conicals years ago in the 36 calibers before I started using sufficient lube, and they shot terrible. In the 44’s they seem to do almost as well as the rounds, but have more recoil, and possibly this is one reason target shooters tend to avoid them. O.R.

@@dennisdanich7190 I’ve pretty much feel the same. We are lucky for the replica producers making it possible to shoot and own what is very close to the originals. In fact in most cases, probably impossible for most to tell the difference. And, with modern metals and CNC, well……. I did stumble across a deal on a conversion cylinder and a 1858 that was less than a new cylinder. Turned out to be the Kirst Conversion and the gun had the recess cut for shell ejection, so ….. what’s a fellow going to do. It’s been fun to tinker with because I reload anyway, and I’ve been impressed with the accuracy. What isn’t talked about much, if any, is that ya, you can go back and forth, but don’t expect to hit the same, better remember where each one shoots. Thanks for your comment. O.R.

@@jaxn13 You’re too kind, but thanks Y.R. - O.R.