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I'm glad you actually said falsely advertised lol because I wasn't expecting this game at all despite the hype. But it got the best of me... I love it. . But it's persona... meaning I'm going to plan out days before a dungeon etc I just like and to battle and enjoy the story like final fantasy does. I do like persona, but it can stressful if you don't do the correct choices etc. Lol I hope the story is better in metaphor and I'll be okay 🎉

I don't think Atlus ever hid the heavy Persona influences in this one. Indeed, the thing I knew the most about from the marketing before I stopped following until the demo dropped was that they were using the Persona-style calendar, expanded to fit a game where the party travels to various locations, and I was all for it. And while the story is taking a lot of inspiration from Persona as well (though I don't think any of the modern Persona games have gone as hard as Strohl's awakening in particular, that scene is so metal it deals Almighty damage), I don't think any knowledge of Megaten is required to understand the game on its own merits. And the scenario setup that has been presented is, if anything, more SMT-flavored. Indeed, it may well be that Louis being so obviously Lucifer and the Royal Magic channeling the Great Will are just things I'm seeing as an SMT player and when the full game comes out those archetypes (no pun intended) will prove to be misleading in a significant way. Or maybe I'm right and it will turn out in a critical moment that Louis actually had an Archetype all along. And even when it comes to petty things like spell names, an outsider will actually be less annoyed than a veteran at having a spell named Hama that never instakills. Edit: Also, the common sentiment I've seen in the articles about the game is that it mixes Megaten with Fire Emblem influences, and as a Three Houses fan I am absolutely getting both the setting vibe and that "grind in Brigand for Death Blow" feel.

Hi all, I think some people are a bit confused which is my fault. Not really great with unscripted talking. I was just saying; saying it's a persona spinoff is not meant to be inflammatory or negative, I just thought the description was apt.This game, I like it. I wish they were clear about it having the most persona elements in a non persona game instead of saying it's going to be nothing like megaten or persona. However, I am in love with this game and love it. That is what I am trying to say.

So what would you like them to do instead or should i say what new things you were hoping for with Metaphor how would you personally combined smt and persona mechanics and make new game without making it feel similar

what

If you want a fair comparison, think of this as Atlus's Elden Ring, its basically a game that takes everything they've created and learned, and puts it together in order to play around and see how they can itterate and improve on those mechanics. This game is coming out during their 35th anniversary, its a celebration of everything that makes their games unique. Calling it Persona 6 and saying its deceptive marketing is a bit too reductive.

It looks for me like a persona game but I try to see it as a new game

Hello Persona only fans.... What your are feeling right now it is what Classic SMT fans felt when Persona just started.

I think you over thinking it. From soft has dark souls and also bloodbourne blood Bourne is a different game and not a spin off but they share lots of mechanics cause that whAt the devs have specialized in. I think everyon was expecting them to take old mechanics and evolve them

its and incredibly easy game

So how did they do false marketing?

As someone who wasn't affected by "false merketing" since I didn't watch trailers or anything (wanted to go in blind) I adored everything about this game. Sure the social links and calender system is a persona thing but the game has a sick setting, great characters, an interesting story so far, the best gameplay out of any Atlus game except maybe smt v, and incredible music. Like another comment on this video said, calling the game a "persona spinoff" is like calling fallout an elder scrolls spinoff. Even if you do wanna treat it like a persona game, who doesn’t want press turn persona that doesn’t make you go to school every day and allows for actual interesting party customization? That solves almost every issue I have with persona and keeps the good parts.

I am in love with this game. Everything from the art direction, story, music, and gameplay is a celebration of everything Atlus has learned so far.

Im so stoked

This game looks fucking dope

Im just beyond done with the calendar system.... yet again. P3 & P4 ok, but by P5 sick of it and damn high setting so i skipped it entirely. Hope P6 is more like P1/P2. ReFantazio could have been P6 and besides no fusion or romances, no one would question it.

Metaphor definitely has several similarities to Persona but it's definitely not a Persona clone or just like Persona or anything like that. The archetype system might SEEM like personas, but they aren't. Archetypes are more like jobs in FFT or FF5. Whereas personas are more like pokemon. This is a pretty big difference. Metaphor is also completely dangerous different thematically, and at least it seems like there will be a big world to explore in addition to the Persona style spending your days in town experience. It also has a brilliant solution to one of turn based games biggest issues, having to do tons of trivial battles against weak enemies, with its real time combat system.

It feels like a Persona spin-off. I hate to say it but I have fallen asleep multiple times trying to beat the demo. The story felt game of thrones light and the characters so far are uninteresting. Idk everyone is hype on this. And I love the Persona series. This made me feel "meh" I'm kinda bummed now.

As an smt enjoyer, I can’t wait for this

Can’t how one would get confused. Think how Fallout, Starfield and The elder scrolls is similar in mechanics but also still different, this is the same thing with this game. They use game mechanics they are familiar with and turn into something new and fresh. That doesn’t mean that every game is gonna be persona like the other guy was talking about nah, that’s like saying is every game with lock on and dodging and hard difficulty just souls.

Narratively the chaos ending in SMT VV would've been far more compelling if Atlus substituted Tiamat with Marduk in the final battle. Given that Yoko/Qadistu's objective was to end the systemic oppression begun by the aforementioned horned god ( sustaining the Mandala system by ext), they could've easily had meta-being Mastema perform some reverse essence fusion of Tiamat and Aogami ( or some other contrivance) to summon Marduk. I get Mastema being able to control Tiamat towards acting in accordance with the greater will, but imo it was a missed opportunity to further differentiate the alignment paths. And I'm sorry, but the chaos route exclusive boss compared to what Law received leaves much to be desired 😅

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Hi all, just wanted to respond to some common stuff I get: First and foremost SMT V. Yes I got this completely wrong, as many commenters added everything in the game indicates that it is very law biased. Why I chose chaos? Just finished off Nocturne's segment and went a bit too heavy handed with the similarities and as law was the first ending I got I literally had a better memory of every single ending in the game I had after that. Also, the point of this video is to say that the alignment bias says something about the themes of the story, not that every game should have it. That's my fault I should have clarified. That's really all, hopefully this will tone down the many paragraphs you are writing lmao.

To me this game is litereally just persona 6 without the name. I'm very thorn on it, it sure looks good and seems to be a much better game than P5 which was also disapointing to me, much like you I stoped caring halfway thru the game. But as you said they straight up just lied about this game, they said it was gonna be something new and fresh and I got my expectations kinda high for that, but now we know this is literally persona but in a fantasy setting instead of a modern high school drama. I'm very tired of modern persona, but i'm still going to play this, because it seems like it's everything I wanted persona to be, but yeah some ppl are gonna complain for sure, specially long time fans, I mean i'm complaining right now, but I feel like the new fans that came with P5 are probably not gonna care. This just makes me very concerned for the future of atlus and the SMT franchise in general. Like, is everything just going to be persona now?

The bias to me just implies an alignment ending is meant to be canon over the others. Never thought of it being a bad thing. Or the opposite, the canon ending is the most tricky to achieve, like a challenge to get the "true" ending.

What are your thoughts on the pico 4? I got mine as a second hand for RM900 (163 pounds). Although it is under tiktok, you don't need a tiktok account to use it, albeit you need to make a pico account. My only gripe with it is that 1. because its a bit lesser known, and there aren't that many people making compatible gunstocks (atleast available in my country). 2. The pico store is good but is definitely lacking in compared to the meta AND is more expensive if you compare the games to steam.

While you admitted to not playing SMT2, (which ending is Law bias not Chaos btw which is why Aleph is Law aligned in the DLC of SMT4A) and SMT4 is indeed Neutral biased, a lot of the information in SMT4's section is wrong. Neutral!Flynn does not want to rid the world of all demons, his actions in that specific route are incapable of doing that anyways. Instead it was Law!Flynn and Merkabah that wanted that, to the point the angels leave after Lucifer is defeated and the Yamato Perpetual Reactor is destroyed (wiping out Tokyo) so humans can rule themselves as God (either YHVH or Great Will/Axiom commanded) As for SMTV given that the base game had the Law ending where the protagonist was the most happiest, everyone including Lucifer's follower's like Beezlebub are against Yoko, Yoko does not get anything unique for her route's final boss and every ending is cut off from the cycle regardless thanks to Lucifer, (seriously did you not pay attention to Satan?) I highly, highly, highly doubt the game is Chaos aligned. As for the whole Amala network thing I don't agree with Chaos, the White or Owlman, (Batman was right to punch out that nihilistic fool out) life is far more than JUST suffering and every time so far that a SMT world gets destroyed it isn't the agent of rebirth arbitrarily deciding that it's gone on too long, its some agent of Chaos like Hikawa from the cult of Gaea. Implying its more of fail safe. Lucifer at the very least discovers a way to separate from the network without killing everyone like in Nocturne but for Yoko and the Quadistu thats not good enough, because they want a world without sacrifice. Well guess what Yoko you just sacrificed EVERYONE.

Truman is one of my favorite former US Presidents. I must be Law aligned as f---!

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I hope Samsung and google’s new headset do something against the meta dominance (not gear and daydream, the new one) A hassle free, mid range pc hmd could be a huge market appeal, but judging by snapdragon’s role in this it’s likely a standalone too. I just don’t see the google Samsung team up can challenge meta’s exclusive software market, google have a problem with long term support on their products.

SMTVV has one of the better endings in the series in my opinion. I've seen ppl complaining that there is no neutral ending, but I think that was intentional, since while one route is more chaos and the other is more law coded, they're still far removed from the usual law and chaos shenanigans. Both can be considered and they're not so absolute because the point of the game is how both heroires influence each other and they gradually become more nuanced. I'll just say that i've read some questionable takes regarding the story and specially yoko in this comment section. It seems that some ppl missed the point so hard that I don't even know what to say honestly.

Iron Man VR is not a tech demo. It has a decent story campaign and good combat with flying, shooting and melee attacks.

2:00 - In Russia you have to work for 3+ months to earn on Valve Index, and that's not counting monthly expenses for food, housing, etc.

Speaking from the exceptionally low end of averages, VR is in fact pretty expensive. The quest 3 and 2 both exist, and pre-owned can be fairly reasonable if you want to deal with the lesser experience. But if you want even the minimum PCVR experience your options are the PSVR2, which is on par price-wise for a new one, or to jump a couple hundred dollars just to get a used Valve headset that may be missing controllers. To get the somewhat above average is $1000 minimum, and none of these prices factor in graphics cards, accessories for comfort or accessibility, or the fact most people don't have access to demoing to make sure they can even handle VR. The difference is especially clear in something a simple as VRChat where being on Quest Standalone actively locks you out of seeing people's avatars, using avatars, and even visiting some really cool worlds. That's cushioned by using PCVR, which I do exclusively, but it's a downside. As the fact that different headsets use different lenses and processors based on price. I had to upgrade to a Quest 3 ASAP because the lenses on the Quest 2 literally made me teary within a few minutes of use due to the shape, and using the passthrough was painful. But the Quest 3 almost completely negates both issues for me. Sitting isn't an accessible way to play for everyone for a few reasons. Having the wrong body shapes make actual arm movement harder or crouching nearly impossible for example, so it's just not enjoyable like standing can be. And now that there are so many mixed reality experiences and 3D movies, how can people be interested in supporting what they want if they can't experience what makes it great? Accessibility is another issue, but that outside of the points you made. On that note I really have no notes on the state of the games since finding ones that grab me is a chore. I use my headset primarily because I can now plug other systems in to play huge-screen 2D games. Maybe the selection is not tech demos primarily, but not being the target demographic does also work as a deterrent to getting into VR. That's all I've got.

I think for the cost of VR, it's the quality of it that's really is important. Like the Quest 3, sure it's $500, but its not the best in terms of how standalone games ran or battery life expectancy is. For it to be worth while, you 'd have to buy accessories to play for more than 2-3 hours long. So that also adds $100+ more for those needed items for the Quest 3 to feel comfortable. But for game, it's only because the lack of games isn't what they mean, they're tired of the same game coming out to VR that doesn't innovate in terms of what VR can do. We have 2 displays on hour heads to use now, why not use one of them to make a different color that only you can see on the right eye, and the left eye the same thing. Or what about making pushes for movement in VR using hands to help with pushing against the wall, sliding, etc. I think it's really the games being the biggest issues though. If there's no game that MAKES me want to buy a VR just to play (i.e. Half-Life: Alyx), which in my opinion is why people say that too. All the FPS games I've played have very similar formulas for weapon design, movement, and graphic design.

My issue with vr is that I can't align my fucking eyes because no vr headset I have ever seen has an up and down on the lenses, IT'S LITERALLY HALF A CENTIMETRE DIFFERENCE IN HEIGHT COME ONNNNNNNNNN

you forget that people have to like, eat food, and like get gas, and save money, those costs stack up and alot of people cant just dump a majority of their money over a month or two into a glorified virtual boy. you forget that $400-$300 dollars for a quest is infact alot of fuckin money.

gorilla tag is overrated

I hate the fact that when I want to play a game on pc with meta quest via cable I need to connect through meta quest link (which is eating my RAM alive) and then launch steam vr. That is 2 layers of software on top of my game. PS. I know about steam vr app for meta quest but for that I would have to buy a separate router

VR is overpriced, dont care what anybody thinks, Im saying this as a Quest 2 owner, for 400+ bucks I expect the original cable included, better head strap, seamless airlink and no issues like sound missing, endless loading screens and/or Ultra Lag when attempting to open the VR Menu every damn time I hook it up, I also expect to play games without creating another redundant account, I dont want to be forced to use steamVR since it dosnt start and shows a different error every time (games work perfectly fine without it what a quick pirate voyage shows...), if it works its such a good experience but not worth hours of setup and loss of sanity due to another error or bug, the amount of times I punched the hell out of this thing for not working is unfathomable it got good durability at least. as it is right now its worth 150 bucks, that is if you include the cable and better strap of course and my setup is good enough dont take me for a fool pls...

In my country you either get a used quest 2 for reasonably cheap, or you sell a kidney Also quest is WIRELESS I know pico exists, but i checked the other day and it was about 2x the price of quest 2

Yeah I think most of the complaints are coming from America stuff is more expensive here

Genuinely amazing video man, keep up the great work, you have some really great thoughts on the megaten system that I never considered.

The price thing is so dumb, I've had the quest 3 for like 8 months now. In the beginning a lot of beat saber but I recently picked up Vtol VR and just for that game it's worth it. There's no other simulator that immersive but at the same time (ironically) cheap. You don't need a 2k€ pc just to run it and the game is cheap as well. If i were to pick up DCS I'd need to spend like 200€ on track ir, 400€ on a hotas and probably even a hardware upgrade just to get somewhat close to vtol. Vtol is definitely the better option

Vr is heavily over rated

Last point: Pico

couldn't of said it any clearer

annoying voice in first 10 seconds of your video : pause to quickly write rage bait and click off.

nah