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Aim Allies
Добавлен 21 сен 2023
Hub / Plan B Taper Lock Suppressor Mounts and Accessories for Less
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SD Tactical Arms offers Plan B (and their own suppressor products and accessories) in Titanium and Steel. I have been testing quite a few of their accessories over the last couple of months and finally did some filming (in the rain) to show some of the products and let you know what I think.
SD Tactical Arms offers Plan B (and their own suppressor products and accessories) in Titanium and Steel. I have been testing quite a few of their accessories over the last couple of months and finally did some filming (in the rain) to show some of the products and let you know what I think.
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CAT WB: The new best in class 5.56 K suppressor
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Comparing the new CAT 718 WB to the CGS Helios QD TI suppressor. Note: In this video I originally said you can run 6mm through this can. PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS - I was wrong.
CAT MOB vs Dead Air Wolfman
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A new contender takes on a previous fan favorite. CAT MOB vs Dead Air Wolfman crosseyecomp
High-end AR-15 Radian Builder's Kit and Manzano Tactical Cold Standards
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High-end AR-15 Radian Builder's Kit and Manzano Tactical Cold Standards
I believe their low back pressure design is different than what they refer to as surge bypass on their other cans.
I have the same rifle wich bolt carrier do you using
@@monzonfastwrap4686 JP VMOS BCG and their bolt as well.
@@AimAlliesthank you
Would you consider the MOB to be a big enough improvement over the wolfman that it would be worth purchasing if you already own a wolfman?
@@thesandman9357 only if you are unhappy with the gas performance of the wolfman and have another host that it can live on
Thanks for sharing.
Hey thanks
wolfman sounds way better
Would you recommend the CAT for an AKV?
@@ghernandez6457 as long as the barrel threads are concentric it would probably be a good match!
I want to see the MOB vs Otter Creek Lithium
The Wolfman is bomb proof and the versatility over multiple calibers and full auto rated is why it gets my vote. The CAT only really beats it in weight.
@@quadlife7207 the flow characteristics are definitely not to be underrated on the MOB. It is notably quieter. Agreed on the versatility of the wolfman and I did not give that enough appreciation in the video
CAT makes dedicated suppressors. I prefer dedicated systems. Reduces variables
At the buzzer. All other Plan Bs sold-out. SD in stock and the weight loss and checked price, I'm in. Glad I found your vid.
@@tw4143 glad to hear it!!
I’m just a guy standing in front of another guy… talking about silencers
@@majorsten just a guy doin guy things
I love it. It was a play on notting hill and tropic thunder.
Wonder how well a titanium mount will last inside of a blast chamber unless you are shooting subs🤔
@@juanthelawnmowerthief1641 I’ll let you know! I’m going to put one on longer term.
have you tried any of the alleycats? are they noticeably heavier in weight compared to the civ versions?
@@lynxpointlizard they are a bit heavier but from your other comment seems like a good application.
Curious to know if the Helios QDTI is able to fit some of those shorter rearden MD's without the hub extension? Got a buddy who ended up just DT'ing his. Even considered going with the Diligent Defense Zilch to get the muzzle closer to the outer annulus vent so it would utilize it more. But even still, its actually a pretty awesome sounding can imo. I have another friend with a LH thread Ti version of the WB...its literally 6oz without the mount, freakin nuts. Their muzzle devices weigh just under 2.5 to 3oz i think? Honestly, After messing with it, I think thats what i'm switching to since CAT does make LH HUB mounts for MD's. The LH thread is so much better and its SECURE, plus no threat of untorqing the MD on removal and no worry about the fine threads getting messed up like on plan b pattern MD's. Still great mounting pattern though, especially from Rearden. One thing I'd like to share about ejection pattern that i've found, is that the shape of the shell deflector does change the ejection pattern, so I only really refer to that for guesses on carrier velocity when I'm working with a standard pattern deflectors. I have some VLTOR MURS that eject really far forward but they aren't actually as overgassed as you'd presume based on that pattern. Thanks for sharing your experience sir!
@@musician445 hey there! Thanks for the comment and welcome. As far as the Helios - yes some of the shorter muzzle devices will work. Something like the mini 100% works and I think the SPB may also be short enough to work but I’m not sure. SD tactical Arms is a company whose muzzle devices and mounts I’ve been trying (vid on the channel, they’re available in titanium). The left hand CAT mount seems pretty incredible, if I did not already own the Helios I probably would have gone in that direction. I rocksett my muzzle devices on so I’m not worried about them coming off, but from what I’ve seen the thread and taper lockup is even better. Interesting note on the brass deflection, totally makes sense!
@@AimAllies Oh awesome i hadn't heard of that company, some smart looking designs there. Thanks!
How does it compare to the B&T SRBS? Thx!
@@jbg7676 I don’t have first hand experience with that suppressor but from what I’ve gathered the WB is quieter.
Hey man, I just ordered my first can. I got the Alley Cat, which is the same as WB but beefed up it seems. Mine is the titanium version. I'm hoping that I did good. I'm going to weight, and sound as priorities as it's going on a CQB setup for home defense, and I'm disabled so the weight is important. If I ever needed to use it, I don't want my whole family to also go deaf hence the need for a can in the first place. I'll pop back in when I get my hands on it since it seems like most people aren't buying that model as it's marketed to professionals.
@@ralfeeeeeeee5046 I think that’s a great choice! I got inconel to take the abuse I knew I was going to dish out shooting in competition and classes, the titanium is an awesome weight reduction. Let me know what you think when you receive it!
Compare the CAT WB against the Polo K
@@justinmagyar7703 Cat WB is a bit quieter with much less back pressure and gas. Polonium are good sounding cans but as a lefty the back pressure is pretty much a nonstarter for me.
Thanks for sharing, been checking this brand out. Checking Wolfpack Armory too
@@albertptran these seem like a great cost effective option to me. The recessed mount Wolfpack makes is pretty slick though!
Coming in clutch with the review🎉
The MOB sounds quieter than the Wolfman on my Banshee. However, on my lever action, the Wolfman seems quieter (even without wipe). Of course, the weight difference is too much to ignore on the longer .357 Henry. I would even say the Wolfman in short config with a wipe is quieter than the MOB on the Henry.
@@jackburton7959 super interesting feedback there. I haven’t adventured much with my wolfman outside of 9mm tbh. Thanks for sharing!!
@AimAllies tbf, I meant using .38spl subsonic out of the lever gun. I think the traditional baffles of the Wolfman (and it's volume) may give it a slight advantage on a closed action, whereas the MOB is superior on a blowback/radial/delayed action. Also, I noticed no first round pop on the MOB, but the wolf does have a slight frp. Haven't had a chance to compare them on .300blk subs yet, but once I get plan b adaptors for them, will compare these two and a Thunder Chicken on a Mini Fix and a Honey Badger.
I wonder if you’ll have the same result if you use a roller delay instead of a radial or straight blowback…
Sound the same
Same combo has renewed my interest in the PCC concept
CAT really has their designs together, I wish we knew more about the company. Their marketing is kind of ridiculous but I don't mind so much. Beer commercials are dumb and we still drink that
I’m new to suppressors. Would you share any insight regarding using a flash hider versus muzzle brake with a suppressor? Is a suppressor mounted on a muzzle brake louder than with a flash hider?
@@TimothyOrf surprisingly in many cases a muzzle brake can act as an additional baffle or sacrificial wear baffle and actually sound better with a suppressor mounted.
@@AimAlliesGood to know. Thanks for the reply and for the informative video.
My next PCC
Great comparison
Those are actually really quiet
@@coppermouth8965 hell yeah 🙏
Okay there the sound. Lol
There is no sound on your video, brother.
@@tymarkham3931 there absolutely is my dude
bro got little kid targets😭
Can't believe there's not more videos on the MOB. This thing is unbelievable
gas flow patterns are insane for how quiet it is!
"It's a step up" Yes
Do you like the HUB or their LH QD?
@@shadowsteel11 I prefer the hub because I am already invested in the ecosystem
great content for 250 subs.
@@contentcop thanks! Just getting started. Another couple videos coming over the next few months, in progress already.
Great video,I’m very knew to suppressors I ordered a hub wb cat 718,how did u say u mounted yours I was thinking of direct tread but it would be nice to be able to take it off if I wanted to quickly,is keymo good or what do u prefer
i'd recommend the rearden atlas and muzzle devices. I also am checking out some options by SD Tactical Arms right now which are a bit more affordable and appear to be great quality so far.
Pew Science says the PTR Vent 3 is quieter than the CAT WB, and that was posted in December, 2023? Not sure how you can say the CAT WB is best in class for 5.56?
Because the vent 3 is over 2 inches longer !
@@AimAllies Oh. My bad. When I saw "best in class 5.56 suppressor" I didn't realize the "class" was "5.56 Suppressors On The Shorter Side". The CGS you're comparing it to is 7.2 inches - only 1/2 an inch shorter than the Vent 3? I guess the line for this class must be somewhere between 7.2 and 7.75 inches. Too bad, Vent 3! Try again next year. Are you going to do another video for "Best 5.56 Suppressors On The Lighter Side"? I think the Vent 3 will beat your WB Inconel, for sure. lol! But maybe the CGS will still be in the running. It's not as quiet as the Vent 3, but it IS 1/2 an inch shorter and over 2 ounces lighter. It's fatter, but I'm sure that doesn't matter. Between saying you can run 6mm through it and not even mentioning that there IS a quieter 5.56 can out there, the credibility of your channel is just SUPER! I mean, at first, I thought maybe the Vent 3 simply came out after your video, but ... nope. I don't have either can. I have no dog in this fight. It's just some observations. I'm thinking about getting a 556 can, so I was checking out my options. I'm looking forward to shooting my buddy's CAT WB when it comes in. But, I may still get the Vent 3, for the lighter weight, quieter performance, and full auto rating. The CAT WB Ti would be nice. Lighter than the Vent 3 and shorter, but apparently it can't take the heat of hard use.
@@stuartv666 the vent 3 is all titanium. The all titanium WB is half the weight. For a K can, this is best in class right now, possibly besides the radical defense can which I haven’t tried out yet. I have no interest in getting another full sized can for the 14.5” rifle I primarily use, it’s simply too long. I published a correction on the 6mm within 12 hours of the video going live, and the original statement was based on a misunderstanding of my question I asked directly to CAT. This was only my 2nd full length video, and I do sincerely appreciate the comment and hope you will tune into future videos with comments breaking down some other options 👍 As an average consumer I can only get my hands on so much at once.
@@AimAllies the Ti WB is light, but it's (apparently) fragile. They want you to have your own thermometer and limit your firing schedule to keep it from exceeding something like 650F degrees. The Vent 3 is all Ti, but full-auto rated. I appreciate you not getting sh!tty with me after my (very) snarky comment. :) Really, my only issue is the title. "Best in class 5.56 suppressor". I get riled up by click-bait and misleading titles. It's not the quietest. It's not the lightest. It may have higher back pressure than the Vent 3. If the title said "quietest K class 5.56 suppressor" I would not have been inspired to comment. Anyway, apologies for being so snarky before. Good luck with your channel. Sincerely.
@@stuartv666 I hope you continue to tune in. You sound like you are just passionate about suppressors which I totally understand (and consumer transparency) Ill change the title just for you 😉
I love to see the difference if you add the wipe to the Wolfman
In practice the wipe only seems to last ~10 shots but I should test that out!
@@AimAlliesyeah still would be neat to see.
Not too crazy about K cans personally. I ran my Rugged Obsidian in K configuration for a few rounds and immediately put the end module back on it was so loud to me…
Wait till you try out the WB. It sounds like a full sized can. I haven’t tried a 9mm k can that is nearly as quiet as full sized yet though.
Are u in Tennessee
Georgia
You should give the CAT adapter a try. I find their 1x16LH superior to Rearden but that’s just my experience.
At this point I am pretty committed to the hub system but it does look like a great option for the public!
You should give the CAT adapter a try. I find their 1x16LH superior to Rearden but that’s just my experience.
Too bad this just got beat by another can, and the ODB is quieter on 5.56 anyways.
Welcome to the golden age of suppressor tech! The NOAH is quite a bit heavier if that’s what you’re referring to, so depends on your application. The radical suppressors also look impressive to me.
which?
ive got an alleycat 7.62 on the way, basically an odb, that should work fine on 5.56 right?
@@lynxpointlizard yeah either one is very impressive on multiple calibers
@@AimAllies this is true…they’re all getting So good nowadays
Good stuff bro!
For the money stay with the Wolfman and it’s modular
Would love to get a few CAT cans. But the ones I want are always out of stock, and no back order options.
Check out piece of mind guns for frequent restocks (follow them on IG). Also if you call SilencerShop I think you can back order.
So are the Alley Cat cans at piece of mind guns just different ODB cans?
@@carls2210 alley cat is the LE model that appears to be able to be purchased by anyone. It is slightly thicker titanium only model with a different coating inside. I would guess to help deal with sparking or possibly concussive refractions in enclosed spaces, I’m not sure.
Nice review - thx
The WB is the quietest 5.56 suppressor I've heard. Like the Hux is great but it just sounds like a quieter unsuppressed shot. The WB has no back pressure like the Hux but also has a significantly more pleasant tone, and apparently there's a full sized WB planned. I got the WB 718 on release, sub 100 serial #, but still waiting on approval. I filed as trust so I'm expecting a longer wait
Yes there is a full sized call the street thug. It’s gonna be hard to resist especially in titanium for me. Definitely agree, hux is still less gas but the WB is wayyy quieter. Sorry about the wait man!!
Gas-to-the-face is obviously a real issue, but I think its important to note that its a way bigger issue for lefties than it is for most people. I was just watching Brass Facts stream last night and he was talking so much about gas-face then I realized he's also a lefty.
Yup, it definitely affects us more with where the ejection port is. That probably makes us great suppressor testers though! I still notice really gassy guns shooting right but it’s more of a cancerous cloud than gas jetting right in my face. These gasses are real bad for you so good to keep it minimal no matter what, hence the rise of the 556k in LE/MIL (less cancer)
Left handed supremacy 👍🏻
Left handed rifle at least rise up 🤣
You have the same level of ADHD that I have... I subscribed!!
😅😅 is it that obvious