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I really have abandoned it after outburst+crecendo man, it's pretty tragic

Great video though I love your weird builds lol 🦆

it's more about the dealth of the health types. That system is what made the armor balanced in the first place, removing that and butchering armor to be just as worthless is the most roundabout way to nerf slash ever, which is the only goal they have. It's stupid because they're ruining the entire balance of the game instead of just nerfing slash, and they want to nerf slash because it's overly popular and because their community is too stupid to use anything that isn't slash. It's honestly pathetic, and that's why I'm so tilted about it 💀

@@nev546 I feel you man I feel like they’ve made the game more baby mode over the time I’ve been playing it which has only been around a year and some

I don't mind the armor changes. What I do mind that there is no incentive to do lvlcap except stress testing your builds and ofc the bragging rights. I did one lvlcap so far, but I probably wouldn't have done it if it wasn't a fissure. And fissures being random is just the icing on the cake....

this was from an attempted livestream where the internet died, not a mainline video wtf 💀

who the hell is nev?

@@nev546 ligma balls XD

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ermmmm, Negative numbers would heal the enemy obviously 🙄this is simple math idk how you don't know but if you subtract a negative number you get a positive one???!!! smh

pretty much sums up the video lol, that was the entire premise of this showcase :P

@@nev546 so the fact that the slash procs are always predicable is down to Garuda's separate flat chance of proccing slash from Seeking Talons rather than the status chance and multishot on the weapon? and it simply factors in the slash chance per tick based on the fire rate interval increase per ammo?. Does that mean that deriving slash procs from the weapon would be better where multishot is concerned (assuming slash is the dominant physical damage) and fire rate is only really better for proccing slash from Seeking Talons? Otherwise the wiki is contradicting itself lol.

​@@Helzakath Garuda's 4 will force a slash proc (given 100%) per instance of damage, for beam weapons, damage instances mean their ticks, for normal weapons like projectiles and hitscans it means every pellet/shot that makes contact, and the logic follows for aoe and extra hits etc. When you have MS on a normal weapon, you are physically shooting another bullet/projectile from the gun, hence creating a new instance of damage. Beams do not create additional instances of damage when accounting for MS, instead, the same instance of damage is multiplied by the MS number, which can drastically multiply your status chance, as well as your damage, for status procs that originate from the beam, this means that effectively* you are double dipping on MS for normal status damage that specifically comes from the beam, since for regular weapons your status chance is not multiplied with MS like it is for beams, and the damage of each proc is based on the pellet and not the total damage value. For Garuda, Hunter munitions, and anything else that is determined "per hit" beams will be heavily hampered, the amount of ppl that run HM on beams genuinely twists my soul in half because they are basically wasting an entire modslot on what is maybe a 5% DPS increase in the best case scenario. The wiki isn't wrong in saying that MS is particularly effective on beams though, especially in regards to status damage, there's a reason the convectrix is such a beast of a grineer shredding weapon, and weapons like the phantasma and phage have little occult followings for being absolute menaces. Multishot on beams is 110% always worth every bit you pump into it if your goal is to maximize on status spamming, but specifically for things that are determined "per hit" it does literally nothing. So to answer your question, yes, having status come from the beam itself is pretty much always gonna be better than from HM/Garuda, which is actually opposite from what we observe with things like shotguns and extra hits! Hopefully that clears things up!

@@nev546 yeah, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. it is as I thought. I've been arguing with some guy called "Einzweig" and his blind followers, who seems to think that fire rate is better on beam weapons because of your video. He tried to use this video as his magical proof that I was wrong, but he's missing the fact that his point only applies to Garuda's Seeking Talons, where as his video is about the Vermisplicer on it's own, no Garuda involved. The more I tried to explain this the more aggressive and insulting he got. I even politely said that I did extensive research in the Simulacrum with Galvanized Chamber and Primary Blight to document the ramp up and comparison to just expending ammo faster . He just refused to admit he was wrong.

@@nev546 He thinks using HM and Primed Shred on a pure crit Vermisplicer (which is already slash-weighted) is better, and I just politely said that he could have built it with the Arcroid or Macro Thymoid and saved 2 mod slots by making it a crit-status hybrid build built around multishot while still having similar crit stats.

I mean M. Quanta used to be really good for making operator damage bonkers, but that's been replaced by the mandonel since it's release. There are still some pretty cool things you can do with M. Quanta bubble, maybe I'll tackle it at some point 🤔

@@nev546 ah alright would be cool seeing what you can do with it. Not going to lie I did steal the banshee idea with electricity and I’m currently trying to make the actual gun do good damage highest damage number I’ve gotten was a 2.5mil orange crit. However if you do actually try M. quanta then it would be a fun thing to watch and thanks anyway if you don’t 🤝❤️

Everybody knows saryn, nobody remembers who the real queen is

banshee has gone so many updates without mention, update, or tweaks that people unironically think she's bad or forgotten about, the reality is if they ever buffed this frame she'd be insatntly above S-tier 😂

Thanks bro, wanna shower together?

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@@nev546 I mean what else are homies for

@@johnflory3306 Resume 😈

gigachad

I did that so you guys have to pause and give me more watch time 😈😈😈 (I will slow captions down next time <3)

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Two parts actually. I dunno how new you are, but when you unlock the operator trees, the vazrin tree allows you to sling through yourself to give yourself invulnerability for a few seconds and restore HP. The operator can also equip an arcane called Magus Lockdown, which tethers to enemies and locks them in place for a while, which can be used with any tree.

I mean tbh I disagree, even without this specific setup there are tons of ways to make this weapon very overpowered across a multitude of frames, even this setup is actually missing a decent chunk of potential damage because I didn't really feel like investing another forma (it would be worth it though.) The title is more of a joke tho, it's a recurring thing with my channel to have funny thumbnail and title

man nevermind level cap mast majority of players don't even go for a second seriglass shard

It does indeed have a 0.23% use rate across all MR combined. (Remember the majority of the community is very casual, and the xoris sees ~15% use rate pretty much every year)

@@nev546 that's sad it's a pretty fun weapon with all Dat slash procs

Marked for death isn't even in this video 💀. I do feel your pain with the awful changes they mentioned about armor strip and health types though, most mind numbing changes I've ever heard in my life

@@nev546 I meant expedite suffering 💀

@@peeposit3595 Wanna make out? 💀

@@nev546 what in the

@@nev546sure

I mean what is it like 10 grandma tokens? that's not so bad tbh

Man...what's going on with you lately...

I play warframe.

@@slammed07accord NUH UH

@@slammed07accord playwarframe

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For the sake of engagement I'll put it this way: at 1:21, there is an objectively optimal way to play, and there is an objectively suboptimal way to play, getting rewards quickly and grinding can be annoying and frustrating when your efforts are grinded (hah) to a halt by other people, and often times it incentivizes solo play because the community doesn't like to at least try to keep up for the sake of respecting other's time. Not all people have several hours a day to play, and it's nice to spend the time you do play actually accomplishing a goal instead of being held back by others who don't respect your time. Mostly, it's not an issue because at the end of the day, you can always run solo, the real issue I have is when people are actively upset about others who do play optimally on twitter, there was a specific streamer that complained that the lobby they were running with had a "speedrunner" as in, a person who killed the archon too quickly, so he and his viewers griefed the player by holding the deacon keys hostage until he left. It's really pathetic it's that sort of behavior I have an issue with, not so much with non-optimal players playing how they like, but rather people actively holding others back just because they want a different experience. 1:32 and 3:44, these two points are making two separate conversations about the same topic, so it kinda makes sense to lump them together but not really. The point I make at the beginning is that the overall casual community views high level players as exclusively exploiters, "the only way to play in high levels is to exploit and cheat" is a sentiment that has been passed around a lot, and it's something that makes me upset because it's not true. High level players also receive the most blame for things like abusing the meta and forcing DE to nerf things for being too strong, when in reality DE doesn't care that we hit for trillions of damage until it threatens their new shiny toys, which is why it took them 5 years to touch the arca titron (it was hurting their necramech demolishers.) The point I make towards the end is more just commenting on the fact that while flaws and exploits do exist that make the game worse feeling, my community does actively care about the game, and I appreciate that and share the sentiment. In neither case am I condoning nor condemning exploits, because I personally believe that exploiting is an active part of a developing game, and everything is in some way or another, going to be used in an unintended way by players, acting as if exploits are exclusively good or bad is short sighted, and disregards a lot. As a minor point to make, the shield gate decaying dragon key strategy was not an exploit, it *became* an exploit later in development as the devteam changed and because pablo's vision for balance ultimately shifted away from scalability (which is something that scott focused on more). In order for something to be an "exploit," intent has to be the driving thing to consider, and shield gating was specifically added to shield frames with the express purpose of making them more survivable in higher level content; it was a feature intended for higher level players with the goal of addressing one-shots. The strategy of lowering shield capacity was not only well known by the devs but was playtested thoroughly and they let it ride for several years after adding it anyways because the strategy was not harmful to lower level content and only made sense for high levels of play. Shield gate was in a fair and balanced state because the energy/s requirement for "invulnerability" was huge even with a powerful setup, and you were still vulnerable to toxin 1hkos at high levels, so it really didn't deserve the unholy death it got by destroying the dragon keys, it only makes sense if you observe things exclusively from pablo's new perspective, (which seems to be that any content above level 500 should be impossible.) 1:58 and 2:07, In fairness, these two points seem counter-intuitive, but I think it's because there's a limited amount of context between the two points, the term "easy" is used to address multiple things at once, and the clarity of that perspective might not make a lot of sense at a glance. 1:58 is mostly addressing the hypocrisy of players who complain about high level players ruining the game for them (the archon streamer for example), and it's mainly serving as a way to conclude my thoughts at 1:21. 2:07 is instead talking about how players often choose to partake in easier content, not pursing getting better or improving because they want to play the game casually. It disheartens me that the community lacks drive to challenge themselves and do harder and more interesting things, instead opting for the easiest and safest content, whilst also complaining that the game is too easy or trivialized by others. Simply put, if you are a person who things the game is too easy, then you should be asking DE to make more challenging content more available, and not being upset at or blaming high level players for that. I don't have issues with the players who want a casual experience, but if those same players are going to complain about the casual experience and then try to weigh in on things like balance discussions, they're ultimately ones that I think are problematic and the people I can't personally agree with, appeal to, or make content for. Another way to say this, is that players want the least difficult experience they can get as far as inner workings, mechanics, interactions, builds etc., but then demand that the game be more challenging in some way, and also declare that if they DO partake in the difficulty of mechanics and interactions, then the game becomes too easy because they're playing in content they're overgeared for. It's a catch 22 inside of a catch 22 inside of another catch 22, the lack of direct accessibility to *valuable* difficult content will always keep the game in this state, and I think DE has failed and will continue to fail at this so long as they intentionally misunderstand the issue. I mean look at EDA, it was supposed to be our "challenging content" and instead it's just another case of RNG determining whether or not you need to run once or run twice with a brozime style carry-trade setup, it's by far the worst thing they've ever introduced for high level players and only appeals to the community who lives in level 100 and below, i.e. the same community that pablo and friends have been actively appealing to for years instead of actually addressing and making content for their high level community. Nobody in the high level community appreciates CC immunity, DPS caps and burst damage caps, status immunity, and impossible to beat health regen, but for a group of casuals who are used to level 200 enemies taking actual minuets at a time to kill, the gameplay loop is familiar and feels perfectly "challenging" because they don't have to engage with any of the mechanics I mentioned earlier. Just be braindead and hold m1, the "challenge" comes from how long you hold it for, and that's ultimately a difference between high and low level players. As far as your final thoughts, I personally take great issue with the state of balance we have right now, and am a very outspoken individual when it comes to the fact that everything has been power "crept" to hell and getting to levelcap is no longer an achievement, especially considering it's not rewarding in the slightest. I have always held the opinion that high level players in warframe are genuinely oppressed by the casual majority, and the things we like are not respected, represented, or appreciated, and it's frustrating that we are not only often misrepresented but we are told that we can't put our playstyle in front of others and force our ways on them, when they've been doing the same thing to us for years, and we most likely know better because we play in the content where mechanics (used to) actually matter. We are very much able to make changes that wouldn't hurt or upset the low level players, whilst still appealing to those of us that do play in high levels, so it's really frustrating to be told "stop telling everybody else how to play!1!" and then being given no choice but to play casually. Hope this clears up my thoughts, and makes them better understood, and I like the music too, boxplot makes pretty fun stuff :)

@@nev546 love you nev ❤️

As long as you have an extra hit and armor strip, you will be fine.

@@mlad35 aight noted, thankss.

the pistol is the tysis

@@nev546 ty

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