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It wasn't working for me. I would change the color, but it would revert back to normal. See pinned comment for explanation.

@@TeamScorpioRI Ahhh, that sucks! No doubt others are struggling with the same I guess. Hopefully they will fix it soon!!

The buggy in a landing bay would be awesome. Like give us a special landing bay that has the buggy inside. As for your issues. I am guessing you have the "Ship Builder Categories" mod. If you are running it through Nexus, update it. If you are running it through the Creation Kit, then uninstall that mod and reinstall it. Then quit the game and completely reload. That is what fixed it for me.

Sounds like software in general. Fix it, patch it, break it, patch it, break something else, patch that, breaks something unrelated.... Such is life

I was hearing that the Starfield Community Patch was causing all sorts of issues. Rover is cool, for about 10 minutes. It will be useless on some worlds though, especially heavily forested worlds.

Oh, the first thing I did was take the buggy to a moon and went all "Dukes of Hazzard" seeing how far I can jump it!

It does let you do the flip glitch, but not the "drop down compact" glitch. I think that one is gone forever, unfortunately.

It will definitely be modded. I am going to guess at least 2 by tonight, and 4 more by this weekend. Hopefully they will let us customize the weapon too. I want one of the BFG's from Matilija Aerospace mod on my buggy!

Yeah, I want a Scorpion.

@@Lyze Oh I would love that.

There are a few mods that are awesome for ship building. Ship Building Tweaks is one of them, Better Ship Parts Flips (lets you flip structural pieces in all directions) and Place Doors Yourself are the other 2 "must have" mods. Be careful with the Place Doors Yourself mod though, as you have to rebuild all your ships with doors.

I really hope they don't do that, or all my current ships will go up in smoke (except for my Warchild build, which is just straight). I do think they should allow us to blend parts together without the need of the glitch. As for the buggy, I found out that it was one of the mods causing the issue with coloring. It looked like I could color it, but it would just revert. Figured that is typical Bethesda.. lol. I am looking forward to seeing what mods the community comes up with for the buggy. Wanna bet Bethesda sells additional buggy's through the Creation Club?

It did the same to me at first. Kind of funny to see all these "You are not supposed to see this" text on planets. Close out and reload the game and you should be good.

Figured it out. See pinned comments

Or fix the glitch, but allow us to blend parts together in the game. That would have been acceptable. I had to go back to all my Vengeance builds and put a note that they can no longer be built without mods.

I run a bunch of mods for ship building. Matilija Aerospace, Tiger Staryards, and AvonTech all add unique pieces to the builder. Better Ship Parts Flips lets you flip all the structural pieces in all directions (as they should have been from the beginning). And I have a couple that add in new decoration assets like the neon bar signs you see in the game and different decoration pieces. How does that equal "no skill"?

I actually have never had an issue with the creation club mods. I have a few of them and they generally work well (though some are underwhelming).

@@TeamScorpioRI so it's not actually the mods themselves, but the Creation club doesn't seem to play nice with Nexus mods, so my game will freeze up if I try to access the Creation club if I don't delete the Creation catalog txt file every time I access the creation club. Problem with that, it clears what mods I've already downloaded, so I'll have to redownload them to disable or update them and it causes all sorts of buggy issues.

@@JDS-Dalton Interesting. I have never used Nexus mods for Starfield (I did use them when playing BG3). I just go straight through the creation club. I figured that was a little more "fair" when doing ship builds as Xbox players cannot get Nexus. Hopefully they find a way to make them play nice together for you.

lol. Thanks. I don't mind some healthy debate. Glitching has been a divided topic for a while now. This is just another bump in the road.

Its definitely a rough day for builders. I have been using mods for a while now (my Archangel was my last non-modded build) and they do make the ship building fun again.

The buggy is definitely a situational use. You are right that in some worlds its going to be useless. As for ship building, I understand the need to fix a bug (it may have caused issues in other areas behind the scenes, who knows) but I would have liked them to allow the blending by default. Simple change to the .ini file would have done it.

The Ship Building Tweaks mod should let you blend parts.

@@TeamScorpioRI Thankyou! I just tried it. You still lose the flip merge and the copy merge, but the drop merge is better than nothing!

Weird. That worked on mine, unless they broke that mod now too.

Just tested it again and its working on PC.

It's definitely not working on xbox...unless I'm doing something wrong...I even changed the load order...gonna wait and see....but it don't change back...starfield will lose another player.

@@Revan-88 For load order, Ship Building Tweaks should go last. I usually have Ship Building Categories first, then any new pieces (Matilija, Tiger, AvonTech, Etc..), then I have my decoration mods (Better Living, Buildable Walls, etc..), then functionality last (Flips, Tweaks, etc..). That has been working for me with no real issues. I do not have the Community Patch, which I heard is causing some issues right now.

I am not using commands. Just the Ship Building Tweaks mod. I did have to fully quit the game and restart after loading the mod to make sure it loaded, but after that it was fine.

You are not wrong, but it was a mechanic that was heavily used by the ship building community and actually Bethesda itself on a bunch of their in-game ships to complete their designs. Even the winner of their most recent ship building contest relied heavily on these mechanics.

lol.. Nice

I doubt they will. Mods will most likely be the standard from here on out.

Excactly! 👍

Yeah. It was a weird glitch to fix. Now, if they fixed, but then lowered the default tolerances so that you could still blend the parts.. then I would say its a win.

I tried to color it, and it didn't seem to change anything... As for glitching parts. It will be sad to see it go, but I think its just going to push more builders towards mods now.

There was a note about fixing a double ship bug. It said "Addressed an issue with modifying a landed non-home ship that could cause a duplicate ship model to appear on the landing pad"

I agree. If they would have recognized that this technique was used widely by the ship building community, acknowledged it, and made the change to the .ini file to let us overlap by default. Then I think this would have been worth it.

How many ships did you build so far?

I understand the need to fix a bug. It may have been causing some other issues in another part of the game, or with the buggy (which is why it got patched out now). But, ship builders now lose a valuable tool, and one widely embraced by the majority of the ship building community, in creating new ship designs. Now if the fixed the bug, but then changed the settings to allow us to overlap pieces without the need for mods, I think this change would be welcome. But it is what it is.

Yeah a special module would have been nice. But that seems far too ambitious for Lazythesda. We hope for the modders as alsways.

That definitely would have been awesome. Its a little non-immersive, especially if you have a tiny ship build. Like, where on the Frontier is the buggy?

Any of the ship techs or each different ones?

Interesting. I will have to go back and see if there the others. I just had the option for the REV-8

I would have loved a new module for ships. It could even be tied to different vehicle types. Class A would be a little put together rover that could collapse into a pod (similar size to a small cargo hold), all the way up to a class C larger truck style with its own garage (that would double as the landing bay for the ship as well)

Oh I bet modders are working overnight to see who is the first one out with a mod for this

You are still using script extender??? Nearly all new mods dont need that anymore! ESM files just work - with ALL updates!

@@arnograbner4741 Not every time but mostly it works yeah.

I just used the Ship Building Tweaks mod from the creation store. No script extender needed... but if you have other mods that rely on that, definitely best to wait.

lol.. Agreed. Though to be fair, it was technically broken. But it was something that made its way into the ship building community. I think this will push more builders (and players) towards mods.

Interesting. I tried that and nothing changed on my buggy.

Pretty much

I assume that's sarcasm.

No it's not and personally I don't like glitches ​@@TheRealBozz

Me too - this is, IMO, what mods are for.

@@demonletsplays So a glitch which you actively have to search for to experience it does bother you... oh my i'd like to have your worries.

The majority of the ship building community has embraced this "glitch" as a valid building technique, and has done so since the beginning. Even the winner of the latest ship building contest used these. I understand the need to fix a bug (and who knows, this could have been causing an issue somewhere else that we were not aware of), but what I would have liked to see is that they changed the default tolerances in the game to allow for such overlap, giving us freedom to design ships how we like.

Welcome to RUclips. New here?

Not a problem that I've ever had , are you playing on console or PC ?

Weird I thought they’d fixed that

May be it is YOUR problem - not Bethesda? Wrong load order? I play now the game more than 1.000 hours, use about 110 mods and everything works just fine! I NEVER had any problems, the game just works!

Weird. I have a bunch loaded and never had an issue with audio. I wonder if its a load order thing

@@arnograbner4741 nope there job to make a product that works especially if it there made mode that causes the issue

No they did not.

First time anyone has called me "toxic" for expressing my option on things and creating a title that gets views. Nice. I guess I am a real RUclipsr now! lol

Hes right, stop being so offended over starfield

That’s a ridiculous take. They changed a ship building method that ENABLED creativity. Taking it away kills a very important feature for many players.

doh I made the same mistake, the weather got so cold I thought it was September lol

LOL.. Damn. I guess I got over exited!

Its called a mistake. Calm down. You ran to the comments all excited to correct him.

@@whathappened246 I'll own this mistake.

I tried. Made the buggy all black and it stayed the default color.

@@TeamScorpioRI did you press “done” or whatever

@@TheParagonIsDead It was a conflict with an unrelated mod. See pinned comments.

I tried coloring my buggy, but it just ended up reverting back to the default color.

Better they fixed bugs before a glitch that nobody cared about.

@@jamesmeldrum4563 The thing is a lot of people care about because its the only way to get a little bit of freedom for creativity in ship building. Vanilla ship building is boring and very restricted without the glitches. The whole mechanism is boring and implemented lazy imo. Don't get me wrong ship building is still my favorite in this relativly boring game. But it could be so much more. Outpost building is way worse in my eyes.

@@stewenw4120 I get that. What I meant is that people would prefer Bethesda to fix bugs rather than worry about glitches that really don't bother anybody.

James is on the right track here. Plenty of actual bugs to fix. If this was something game breaking that let you get OP fast (like the vendor chest glitch they patched last time), then sure. It should be fixed out. This one was something that was embraced by the majority of the community. If they wanted to patch the mechanic, they should have modified the default tolerance values to allow some freedom in blending parts.