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@@maciekzajac1652 they're getting there. Can't leave shavings on the floor though! I've been instructed. My goodness they get everywhere

@sweetchariotengland 😁

@@bienyamientoefy1923 thank you

@@happydace6991 atta boy

@sweetchariotengland the next village to me has an ancient Yew tree in its churchyard where it is reputed it was where Robin Hood sourced his bow wood from . No shit . 👍👊

@@celestaronin they have been used for centuries in various applications but like I said, they are only now being fully studied and understood The term is functional mushrooms btw Lions mane, Chaga and birch polypore are other good examples Turkey tail is linked to gut health, immune system, anti tumor and energy levels amongst other benefits Mushrooms have compounds not found commonly in plants.

The arrow shelves are definitely a point of contention for the traditionalists, though it has been fun getting them to work and also has taught me a bunch about arrows. It's part of why I've built up the handles with extra hardwood What you say about the shape and fibres is interesting though and is ringing true in my work Sticking with the more simple shapes will save a lot of energy as well. Thanks again! I've had a few people being really rude and stuck up with their comments. This is very useful stuff to me. It is of course a serious pursuit but it can also be fun. Bit of an adventure to. What's your next bow build? What you been foraging lately??

@@sweetchariotengland Well i've just made 3 Holmguaard bows and the last thing I foraged would have been some sorrell. I make furniture more these days. I've probably made close to 700 bows....I'm just about over it now haha :) As far as bows now the only real types that interest me ar e horn composite bows. I've done about 25of them but still a few designs I want to try out. Probably a Persian one next.

As for the arrowshelves - they may 'work' now but trust me if the bow gets shot enough they will fail there as I said it is a stress riser. I could explain better in person. A simple solution is to get some leather and glue it on then shape the shelf from the leather. Ultra thin CA will wick into it and make it rock hard.

@@eclipsearchery9387 haha! He's not over It, I don't buy it The bow builder associated with Walesa Archery Specialists was doing snooker cues, then he did cue-ike laminate English longbows and is now moving onto harps. A master by all accounts. I think the serial numbers of the 2 in the shop were in the 2500s I am moving away from doing centre cut bows for now. Number 9 and 10 achieved exactly what I was after. It's a stressful design though to achieve what a traditional handle can also do. I just posted a video on the latest bow I've done and it just happens to look like a Holmegaard. Come check it out and see if I can explain myself. I need a chronograph, more arrows and one of those pull scales designed for the hand. Save me trips to WAS to borrow theirs

@@eclipsearchery9387 yes man! Some excellent additions there. The message was maybe not as cautious as it should have been. You are much more likely to find bad wood than good wood I have only just begun wood foraging and I can sense there is much to know. I began with walking sticks. They don't have quite the same requirements as a bow but not far off and it was the perfect project to lure me into learning this Interesting to hear that about Osage and locust. The dead standing foraging I was suggesting only for the windfall stuff. It's a rare find but it is possible if you get your mind in gear. Just like that white oak tree The advice to also learn fungus and decay links into that. Spalting and beefsteak fungus may ruin a log for bows but could make something else attractive. I've heard it in regards to growing plants. The process is going to take a bunch of energy and time so you should start with a fine seed to make the most of it. As to in bows There is definitely something to be said about getting familiar with the wood though. How it feels, how it bends and also how it breaks! I'm curious to see how my properly selected and season Yew logs compare. See you in 3 years though!

@@Icutwoodlikeaman yes man! what I've come to realise is there are no guarantees with yew selfbows. It's a negotiation right to the end. This one should still work though, if I'm crafty. Who knows? It could even improve it Trying to get them working properly proper has got me appreciating the difficulty

@@timc3257 heya many thanks! Trying to borrow some features from the ASL bows and combine it with a traditional selfbow. They are difficult to get right. This video reminds me of how much I've learned in this time

I did indeed neglect my nuts and berries. There is an awful lot to learn I do forget to mention some things in my unscripted ramblings. Like not to trespass. That would have been an important one to mention

@sweetchariotengland yes I can imagine. Easy to miss stuff. Trespassing is another kettle of fish altogether. Have a look at the right to roam movement if you haven't already 👍

@@Nayagaonneemuch-v2m haha! In short, no sir I'm doing this type. Other materials require more tools and space which I don't have You should make a fibreglass bow

You know it. A bit of type 2 fun

@@PNWWoodcraft many thanks. All of the bows I've demonstrated on the channel has come from foraged wood. I have also broken a bunch of staves but they may have happened anyway To be fair they've not been fallen branches but dead standing or clear cut yew trees. It's very rot resistant and I've got lucky in finding it before it has decayed beyond use. Different woods will fare differently outside. It's definitely not premium wood but you have to start somewhere and learning bows takes a bunch of attempts I practiced sculpting and form with the shorter and messier bits, meanwhile the better chunks get stored and keep curing.

@@sweetchariotengland I've had a similar start in finding woods as well. there is a lot of forest where I live but most of it is not good bow making material or the wood is protected land. So I've mastered the art of "scavenging" for bow wood.

@PNWWoodcraft I started off looking for wood for walking sticks. The parameters are similar but not quite as specific as with bow staves. When I found a large fallen Yew, my first thought was how many sticks I could get from it. Once I got into the thicker branches, I had no choice but to make some bloody bows. Keep a saw close by and keep hiking. Good luck

@@natehealingtree you mean Jack o lanterns? Nope definitely not Remember appearance is just part of the way you ID What time of year were we finding the jacks? And what were they growing on? Summer time and on wood chip on the ground. January on a dead standing tree, it ain't guna be chanterelles or jack o lanterns. But it it could well be velvet shanks

@sweetchariotengland fair point well made.

Found some oysters as well. They are a bit of a weird one, I think you can find them in all seasons

Awesome, thank you. I'll keep trying to keep it interesting

Lovely stuff. I've had minor involvement in bows throughout my life but if I'm honest, all the knowledge I've gathered lately has been found on RUclips. I run into a problem or a question, there is normally a video with an answer or a suggestion. Something I have also learned is that Hollywood often gets archery horribly wrong

@sweetchariotengland Hollywood definitely gets archery wrong but its still interesting to see what their interpretation of say a ancient Mongolian horsebow would be like for example in War of the Arrows

@@Nayagaonneemuch-v2m I assume you would like to know feet per second? In an attempt to make it shoot quicker, I snapped this one. Going again as we speak

Thanks dude. I'm still learning but all the elements are beginning to come together. There seems to be an awful lot to know

There are a bunch of woods in the UK that bow well. I've heard apple and cherry are both very good. The problem is that Yew is about the best and I've still got a bunch to get through. I should find some blackthorn for stick making though

@@rogersimeons2781 many thanks Roger. Mate there is so much to learn, it's a beautiful struggle

60.5" with 1 1/4" black walnut tips

The rule of thirds Is what I should have titled this short

Thanks man. Bit of a challenge at 60" but I think I understand them now. Having it's final reflex on the top limb and then it's done

Can you show how you make this bow. Do you have video?

I make one from hazel... 2m15 cm length. Well not so bad , but hazel is not best wood for this type bow..

Many thanks. It's that feeling of knowing you could have had a working bow if you'd just left it alone. Recurve is the key to those top speeds with short bows though unfortunately. I think it's important to keep in mind that there are composite bows for a good reason and yew won't always suit the design. Reflex is fine, Yew is optimised for beauty. Recurves are noisy n all

That means a lot, thank you It started with a need to do something good and the vision grew from there I still have a good few logs to do, the best are yet to come

@Mike-nf1pp many thanks Mike. It was a necessary response to stimulus in my life and observations of what our classy society is able to turn a blind eye to and nose up at. For bow wood? Get walking my man and learn your land. Ash is probably the easiest place to start though you won't find many mushrooms in Ash or maple forests. Find your older mixed woodland and you may just find a fallen Yew tree that has propped itself up off the mud. If you find that, you may just find some hazel or a red oak with a tasty looking log. Educate yourself on species and how to approach them mindfully, remember your are playing your large mammal roal in the ecosystem and don't trespass. I found making mallets and sticks gave me a good idea of what you need to look for when using foraged wood. You will naturally avoid this by collecting green (winter is the best time to prune) but it naturally comes with other issues. Wood is a whole other thing. I had to do a bunch of walking with wood in mind and got lucky

@sweetchariotengland thanks so much for the response mate I really appreciate it and I'm going to do just that 👍😉

Many thanks Mike. I found a fallen Yew, what other choice did I have? They are beginning to look right now

I snapped the Maruki unfortunately. It's a good excuse to do another though and it is coming on well. 60" this time, I'll get a video up soon

@sweetchariotengland that's a dam shame mate but your right it's a good excuse to make another one and we learn from everything I can't wait to see the next one 👌😉

Yew! All about the Yew. I'm not sure exactly which one. It's either European or Pacific. It is about the best selfbow bow wood, meaning wood that can be turned into a bow on its own. No extra layers needed to make it stronger or faster

@sweetchariotengland thanks for sharing buddy I'm going to look into it 👌

@@ДмитрийШевцов-ю3ъ many thanks. Slim! Are the limbs. I've not measured recently but just over 1" at the handle

I snapped it unfortunately. I learned a lot from before it did though, let's go again

So I gather. The perfect project for a waste ash stave

Hey there! And thank you so much One of the things I learned doing this is that selfbows are not necessarily a great beginner bow. I have to try and get 250 or more them considering how long they take and the rarity of the wood for that money you can get an entry level composite bow that will work really well The yew Selfbow is for the archer who appreciates the history of it all and wants that experience in spite of the higher likelihood of bow failure. A bit of knowledge and etiquette are probably good things to have before tackling a Yew bow That being said, there is also value in starting with the most primitive technology and growing from there. I need to make more! The better I get at them, the better price I can do.

@@Pable-d8u it sure was. I continued to fettle it and snapped it the other day unfortunately. The bowyers challenge. Leave it as it is or try and make it work better. It could still make a shorter bow and I have started another to fill it's place

@@markruff8080 Ah very good. This is something I had suspected. I will carry on regardless but I have rushed this one slightly as practice project. Bow making being intuitive as it is, it felt right to start getting hands on and see what happens. I have come to assume that there is always something I may not be considering when it comes to wood. Between species, habitat, age, cure and so on, there is much to learn. Elm is absolutely of interest to me and one I have to admit I cannot currently identify. It always seems to be mentioned after yew and ash. Birch is the next one I will try fire hardening I reckon, though I have a decent amount of Yew to get through still. I'm onto the bigger logs now, I can already feel my forearms aching. Many thanks for the info! I knew social media wasn't just a gateway to bad mental health! Much love

I think you mentioned in one of your vids that you're in the Bristol area? If that's the case, then the coastal woods throughout the Bristol Channel area should provide you with ample opportunities to "borrow" a few Elm staves whilst no one's looking! 😆 Both Wych Elm and English (Small Leaved) are fairly common around the south west coast. And both Elms make for great bow woods. That said, the truth is that all UK white woods, (including Elm) do not compare to good Yew and Osage. Even fire hardened UK white woods lack the unique qualities of the king and queen of bow woods. That's in my experience at least! A few recommendations for Elm though might help you out. Firstly, be mindful that, here in the UK, beetle damage is very common in Elm poles greater than 3-4" in diameter. Get used to spotting the holes in the bark before going to all the effort of felling/splitting staves, so that you don't later discover that the stave is beetle damaged, and that all your time and effort spent harvesting it was wasted! Fell your Elm in the late spring so you can simply peel the bark off immediately and use the wood under the cambium as the back of the bow. Elm bark sticks like glue in the winter and can be a real pain to remove without running the risk of nicking the wood beneath it. Elm can warp massively during seasoning, unless it is dried and stored in the round. So what I always do now, is rough a stave out immediately whilst completely green, then clamp it straight onto a slightly reflexed drying form for a month or two. Or fire harden it on the form immediately over coals whilst green if you want a bow quickly. White woods including Elm take force drying very well without splitting, (unlike Yew) so long as the central pith has been completely worked beyond during the roughing out process. Elm has interlocking grain which makes splitting staves something of a challenge once a log is seasoned, so processing staves green mitigates this problem greatly. Because of the interlocking grain, a sharp draw knife is useful in preventing tearing out when working Elm. But even when using sharp bladed tools, tearing can easily ruin a stave, so if you don't already have one, invest in a large Shinto Rasp. These tools should be on the top of every bowyers tool list! Do most of your roughing out with your rasp once your lateral grain flow (and subsequent face profile) has been established with your draw knife. That way you'll not accidentally run beyond your desired final dimensions due to an unexpected grain tear experienced during the initial mass removal. Last thing I'll say about Elm is regarding optimal bow design. Whist Elm can make a good ELB, I wouldn't recommend it for that purpose. Elm has it's limitations and the optimal bow design for most white woods still applies to Elm. That is to stay long, wide and without too much reflex. If you want to flick the tips then that's fine so long as it's not excessive, or a bit of deflex is built in somewhere to take the stress off of the reflex. A couple of inches of overall reflex is fine, but trying to add 4" of recurve to an otherwise straight side profile will likely end in tears!! Remember, no white wood can do what Yew and Osage can do! For an Elm bow with a target 28" draw length, a bow approx 68" long, 2" wide out the fades, tapering down to 1/2" tips is a good place to start. Same goes for any white wood bow for that matter. A classic pyramidal/ Holmegaard style works very well for all white woods including Elm. Hope some of that is helpful. Look forward to seeing what you find!👍

@markruff8080 you see! This is what I'm talking about. Too much to learn There's still maple to consider I am indeed in the Bristol area. We have a handful of old estates where yew trees are known to fall over in. And the rest of the bow woods come to think of it Many thanks again Mark. I knew that fallen Yew was a blessing. Need the half fallen one next to it I do the same

@@tomcherry6168 awesome, thanks man. Tried and tested I believe is the term. Wood craft is great in many ways and this one you end up with something to shoot! What's not to like?

And here's me worrying about not talking enough. Edits, close ups and music is not in the budget at the moment unfortunately

@@Icutwoodlikeaman all good thanks old boy. Trying to keep forging on. I see your sub numbers. Good job dude.

@ yeh thanks 🙏 man ,, I’m going live tomorrow morning just for a little bit ,, first time lol . I need get my hands on one of your bows there awesome mate ,

@Icutwoodlikeaman very nice. You've got a good energy to you, keep that shit up. I need to get back on the Spoke horse and come some more started I think I've only just got to the point where I can be confident in selling them but there is still much to learn

@ keep it going mate keep in touch thanks man appreciate it ,

@@natehealingtree than what? What did I say?

I sure hope so It was originally commissioned by a London paster who wanted to bang it on the ground during his sermons

Good question. Once I get it straight and shaped as I want it I will take a reading. Last check it was around 30lbs

The trick has been getting it to the extra long draw that Kyudo wants, while still having some power

Safe Drew

Thanks dude. There a lot of dislikes are there? It only shows me likes I've had a couple negative comments but mostly everyone's been really encouraging

It was showing me 25k dislikes lol must've been a glitch. You have 0 now if you'd like to know. Again, beautiful work, would love to buy one someday ​@@sweetchariotengland

@mrtacohunterm.d.355 oof 25,000! Was it something I said!? Thanks again anyways. I'm guna keep knocking them out as long as I can.

Thanks man. Let's hope it's not the first and last It's fun anyway, more so if it can earn some dollar

@@maciekzajac1652 much obliged. Got to thank the customer for rolling those dice. Got myself down to Fabric Land earlier and got a nice length of material to wrap her up in. See if I can't do this right