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CYB is what I would describe as ‘extreme defensive overlap’.

I think another problem is that some cards are too OP in a 9xof.

Notably there is likely 1 unrevealed M, and likely a reprinted M at 3 copies based on the spoilers. (Being 4 missing Ms from the spoilers vs release notes). He could have a legendary 1 of majestic missing. Listening to you guys, it could also be a shield

CYB creates a negative play pattern for the low-to-mid level environment. FaB is still in a place where it could fall prey to a couple bad environments ruining the ability to bring new players into the game and to showcase the best of what FaB has to offer.

Viserai's crazy winrate is in large part due to a talishar bug that submitted an enormous amount of vis v florian wins

I expect a shield for jarl in the set, blade break that reduces the cost of the weapon

I do disagree on the Summit vs Titan's Fist discussion Oldhim only had Fist, and at that time it was enough, because the only deck in the meta that could setup (real) offensive overlaps to kill a control deck before 2nd cycle, was Lexi post Outsider (No one was on katsu, and even if, Katsu has a worse AoW than Zen, and he need to hit to trigger Lynx and his hero power, and him discarding a lot makes him weak to fatigue strategies) Today, if you swing Titan's fist at anyone, they are just gonna take 3-4, then have a offensive turn with a full hand (+arsenal) This is not 2021 anymore, player's knowledge improved and the cardpool allows huge setup turns to go over the "block 14 per turn until you run out of red attacks" strategy Coronet peak as the merit to guarantee a card stripped of your opponents hand (which is 4 value into aggro), and doesn't need you to pitch a 3cost to have that 4 value Summit is still a mid weapon imo, but the on hit makes it better in a 2025 meta in which YOU NEED to interact with your opponent, because if you just do math and allows your opp to play solitaire, we get to that Sam Sutherland vs Matt Rogers moment at Day2 worlds

I don't think CYB is fun, even as a fatigue player.

I miss when the cards LSS would ban came as a surprise, when bans aimed only to target consistency within a strategy rather than a strategy itself. What if they'd banned Boom Grenade instead of High Octane?

The weapon kinda sucks. NGL. Six cost is absolutely wild for a deck that has to play a bunch of elemental 2 blocks.

Interesting that they only banned count your blessings Blue. Red and Yellow are still legal. I hope Maxx and Dash get something to replace high octane. Right now, they join Fai in my deck collection...

I’m happy with the blue banning of CYB, mostly for exact reason stated, the life gain available for all 9 CYB was too much fatigue in Enigma for currently available prevention. HO ban also good, induction chamber still exists and if it gets out early might be very consistent.

I said it on DMArmada's channel and Ill say it here, CYB isnt an OP card, the majority of community frustration I think subconciously comes from the nature of how FAB was built, which is your hero gets weaker the longer a game goes (losing equipment, blue pitch cards 2nd/3rd cycle, etc.) CYB goes against the nature of heroes getting weaker as the game goes on, and even gets stronger as the game goes on, and thats where i think the frustration comes from

DIO is playing system-Roulette now

It was fan service like top many ppl complained so they had to do something

I'll be honest across all my viserai decks on talashar I have between an 80 and 90% win rate and the saddest part of this is it's killing my drive to play my favorite hero.

A large part of why CYB didn't appear in armories and casual events is because of people having gentlemen agreements and not bringing toxic 50min matches to a normal Friday night

I can appreciate the high octane ban I really do. I've played several dozen dashes and the gameplay for any of the competent ones always ends the same way with me getting annihilated when they draw into their high octane processor. Terms and the comment that they made about the gun absolutely rang true with me because the competent ones have six counters on their gun and they just empty 12 damage into me that I can't do anything about because they've accumulated so many action points. What kept high octane in check before was the fact that the gun actually cost something to load. The conversion rate between action points and damage was not as direct with a gun that synergizes or with the character to give free shots. Now you can form a direct conversion of action point to damage, let alone the fact it draws a card to replace itself

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You were going to play cyb despite disliking playing cyb and that doesn't jive at all with how the community feels? For the record, I didn't feel that cyb needed to be banned. I never had any trouble playing against it. I don't think on talashar. I've ever lost a match to somebody who played it, even the enigmas. Then again I play viserai

As per what the community thinks about, count your blessings flow. I would argue that you are correct. It's not that bad of a card set, but you have to give a little bit to the community. I would argue that I think Bright Lights as a set is one of the most fascinating sets and it is a set that I would say is a set for other mechanics people. Sort of like a joke that only other comedians would find funny or in my own profession. A digital receiver with a special setup using a specific algorithm that only other signal processing Engineers would look at and go. That's really cool. Count your blessings in a vacuum I don't believe is bad and I think that people who are fascinated by mechanics like this in fatigue. Find it amazing, but it's not something that the community enjoys playing against and when the community are the people that are buying the vast majority of the product, they have a say that is valid about what is fun and is not fun

They will do the same to Jarl. They will ban some ice cards.

So glad that the Consistency Podcast is back with the Lads! Always excited to hear about your thoughts for this week!

LL is the most fun format for me! Briar is there. Haha

If CYB was banned bc of community sentiment, it would be the first time that ever happened in FaB, right? I remember a past interview about the BnR where Gottlieb basically told players who didn't like their ban decisions to take a break from the game. This makes me think either they have shifted their approach to BnR and community sentiment (IMO a good thing) or all the people screaming into the sky about CYB had a point (which makes sense to me).

Free my boy Belittle, he did nothing wrong

the weapon is not even out and already has a fckn big problem?? Cooom on u guuuys xDD

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Interesting and informative rundown, even after the book burnings! Playing this on Wednesday, borrowing the deck from a friend, I'm usually a Vynnset main, so it feels like the bully will become the bullied here aha. Thoughts on Dissolve reality? Seems like disruption is heavily positioned and required at the moment.

For the case of Expansion Slot cards (and Prism exactly), Prism's Lumi2 straight up does not function. At maximum, it enables a 4 card 14 with pitching 2 blue cards to even pay for the 2 Hearlds *and* the Weapon itself. This was just not good, and the hero languished because her weapon, not her toolkit, was bad. Then she got the real Lumi 2 that allowed her to function as a basic hero. The C Tier and lower heroes right now are not missing a weapon or a equipment to break them, they just don't have good Common or Rare cards. Look at Viserai before Rosetta, look at the lack of help that HVY's Commons and Rares gave to those classes. Hell, Kayo is good because he can play Brute's unplayable Blue 5s, just because he can turn them into 6s. These expansion slot cards are almost all nukes, but the general meta game has also sped way up, if this was HVY, everyone that's gotten ExPac and Armory Deck support would be at least mid B Tier, MST and ROS have just powercrept the game past most of the laungushing classes in the game, and I doubt The Hunted will inject needed support into the Generic side of Warrior and Ninja.

Blitz is such a bad format to introduce people to the game. I get that it's quick, but it's super easy to have one bad turn and have it cost you the whole game in Blitz.

Spark of Genius is what should be hit out of mech if something had to be hit.

Chaos is going to be all symmetrical static effects like slivers in MTG

I’ve been enjoying these videos featuring you two! I always leave with something to think about! Looking forward to more!

Necromancer!!! Permanent class

I honestly don't mind if a hero LLs in one season after release. The LL system I think is a safeguard against unintended synergies and power creep. So if a hero releases and LLs that fast, then the LL system did it's job.

If LSS doesn't find a way to consolidate LL points, at the rate new heroes are being released (and point distribution gets more and more diluted each time), in 5 more years there will be 70-80 CC legal heroes.

These make my work commute so much easier. Thank you for the pod guys! Keep it up!

I don't mind count your blessings. It's fine. I do mind high octane. I know you guys don't think it's a threat or annoying but after playing against 30 plus dash i/os There are specifically consistent features that occur in just about every game and when they do a car it leads to a catastrophic tipping Point that you can't recover from. My issue with high octane is that the card was fine when there wasn't an outlet for using all of the action points, namely converting them into damage. I would almost say that the high octane processor combo would be okay if literally the dash player didn't have a weapon that just let them unload all of their extras as damage.... Six pistol shots is a lot. But more to the point, I don't like high octane because it's card replacement along with unlimited action points. Basically given the fact it was made at a time when - didn't run 100% mechanologist cards

I think Chaos is lke Royal. Just a keyword talent. Royal was just a bonus in generic cards. I guess chaos will be a bonus in assassin cards. This makes Royal and Chaos a good dichotomy in this set. In a limited environment I think we will have 2 assassins since we have 4 blitz decks. One is this Chaos Assassin, and the other I'm guessing that it will be an Arakni reprint just like we had Benji and Azalea in OUT. This way assassins pool will be pure assassin, assassin cards that do their own work while also having a bonus if you are Chaos, and assassin cards that will care about contract (for young Arakni). Also, this Chaos Arakni is not the same as Arakni SG, this Chaos gives the first stealth card go again for all players. I guess this is on theme with them being chaotic.

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I do think it would be cool if grand finals was made to be an event. It's done with just about every other game. Spectators would make it very hype. I don't know why it's not like that for a lot of card games. Street fighter grand finals is a good example it's just cool and hype.

1:07:20 watch Arkani get his little club of assassin allies

1:04:10 Give them a Luminaris lol

Phoenix Flames are a symbol of the Uprising, the rebellion. Cindra and Fang are Dracai, the very people that the Phoenix Flames were made to fight against, so lore and flavour-wise, they should not lean heavy on using Phoenix Flames. It's the same with Fai and Fealty, it kinda doesn't make sense that Fai has Fealty for the Emperor (unless the new Emperor is his sister). My prediction is that Cindra's blades would be named something to the effect of Hidden Dragon, we already have Crouching Tiger, now we have a sneaky Dracai lady.

alright alright alright splatterskull is busted and I do love that card, to the point where I kept every copy I opened. I can confirm Jarick has been very excited for every Riptide card even though he dropped him a year ago to play no arsenal Lexi Also love CYB and very excited for more guardians to be back in the meta

Imagine if they gave us an insane class called "Draconic Warrior Assassin" hahaha that would be insane

They have warrior auras in the hunted

Regarding talents. Zen was just too open. They could have narrowed him into only searching crouching tiger cards, or only mystic assassin cards. He ended up giving up only katsus specializations and swapped "hit" with "play 2 blue cards" which was insane power creep.