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Don't know how you can go 2 reps beyond failure. But respect mate❤

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I feel the same way, but idk if the evidence supports that feeling

Is this new program coming?

I agree as evidence based informed practitioner. For compounds go 2-3 rir but for assisted and machines go failure or reps plus once in a while. The thing that most people need to factor in is recovery. If you go beyond failure you will get doms and will affect your recovery especially if you are a gym rat training 6 days a week. Its not sustainable.

Big difference between natural lifters and enhanced lifters.

Unless its a squat bench or dl i go until i cant then i wait a couple seconds and crank out a last struggle rep

Its not only against other coaches, its against the evidence!

3 sets to failure every 48 hours for one muscle group with 5 min rest - that's all you need

Great episode!

Facts

Very interesting!

Agreed, if you're leaving reps in the tank you're going to need more volume to get the same results.

He is actually very mature about the whole thing. I really respect him.

Helms has so much knowledge and baggage, it is always great to hear about his journey. There is always a nugget that you can take from it and adapt for your own journey and training. Even better coming from a natty background

Boostcamp is awesome!

Train like geof not jeff

I guess its about the long run Failure accumulates more fatigue and ups your injury risk

reps in reserve works only on lazy roidmonkeys

Great podcast! Would love to see GZCL 2.0!!

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No evidence at all just, this is what works for me. No one ever claims it's equal to leave reps shy or go to failure. Over the long term is what anyone is talking about here. Not one set vs on other set. Consider fatigue cost over the long term.

HE IS A GENIUS

GVS has made a career out of intentionally misquoting others to sound smart. Nobody ever said 0 and 2 RIR is the "Same hypertrophy". The consensus is that it's better hypertrophy but not so much better that it's worth the added fatigue to train to failure every session.

He is right: by pushing for reps you eventually are able to achieve the progression to do the next overload.

How do you actually modify a preset program in the app itself? E.g. you choose a coach program like Dr Swole`s Powerbuilding 3day split -> how can you customize exercises/reps/etc. without starting it?

Legit I think GVS has the best fitness advice period, the entire internet. I started doing his overhead extensions which most influencers would probably say is bad form, but nothing has ever made my triceps that sore before haha.

Great philosophy to training & life

I have seen more gains in the last 6 months than in my first year, and a huge part of it is prioritising "accessory" lifts and pushing straight to failure on almost every single set. Even on bench press if i have metal spotters or meat spotters. My arms literally grew from 15 to 16 in just 3 months (!). It took me a flipping year and a half to get to 15 from 13 LOL. Guys listen to GVS, especially when you're small and a noob like me, failure does not tire you out as much as Mike Isratel will tell you it does, especially on a set of curls lmao

Great podcast! It's always so interesting to hear from Cody's perspective. His training history and philosophy is so extensive and GZCL is something I always find myself coming back to no matter what my current goals are. Can't wait to see more GZCL programs on the app!

2 RIR feels like 5 RIR for many exercises in my experience. Pretty much all back movements, side lateral raises, ab work, shrugs, many machines, cables, etc. Meanwhile, deadlifts, calf raises, split squats, RIR 2 can feel like RIR 0. I usually take every set until I don't think I can safely complete another, whatever RIR that is and for whatever exercises. And for exercises it's safe to, I do lengthened partials past failure. I don't see how that is the same as 2-3 RIR in terms of stimulus. It makes no sense to ke logically at all.

That's why one must do Cardio beyond failure

The old timers (pre-steroid) believed it took 5 lbs. of fat to build 1 lbs. of muscle. I think this is over the top. As a matter of fact guys created health issues for themselves w/ this approach.

Just about every single study shows that training to failure produces significantly more growth than even 2 RIR, yet you still have RP and Dr.Mike teaching people to use RIR on everything, and him and his buddy Schonfield will claim that 2 RIR produces just as much stimulus as failure, while citing a study which is nothing more than a collection of other studies which just so happen to say 2 RIR is just as effective. Meanwhile almost every study says failure is a lot more stimulative. Meanwhile, they're now saying 52 sets per week is effective. People need to quit chasing after volume and need to quit being afraid of actually going hard on each set.

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Been running for a week! My dang Triceps look like horse shoes! And im loving the program, sweating like a pig at times!

Lot of content here!

Absolutely fantastic video. Thanks! 🙏

I definitely agree with him. Some people may not and its understandable if you say have a hard time recovering or are older in age. But if its not a heavy complicated compound lift, absolutely go as hard as you can and moreso. Guarenteed to see continuous growth

damn you got the cosigns from dr helms i gotta hop on this app

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Boostcamp broke during my first set today during week 4 of Kong. I’m shook bro please resurrect it🙏🏻

Agree completely with GVS here

great question and great response. I do the same. I don’t do most compounds so reserve doesn’t make sense

i have seen a lot of his videos but i didnt know that he lives in china

Could not agree more!!! How can failure and 2rir be the same? Failure is much harder and to think that 2rir will do the same is a little silly.

I taken my whole life beyond failure.