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Seeing Hank Willis Thomas
In this episode of the Seeing series, Carrie chats with Hank Willis Thomas, Brooklyn, NY based conceptual artist working primarily with themes related to perspective, identity, commodity, media, and popular culture (and that's putting it mildly).
From Carrie: "I tried not to fangirl in our interview with Hank, but not sure I completely succeeded. This is a man who is referencing so much and then laying it bare for us if we're willing to engage with the work, if we're willing to really look. On first view, you can't see everything, but with a light and some time and planting your feet firmly in the ground in front of the work, you can see things that you might not otherwise have seen. And ...
From Carrie: "I tried not to fangirl in our interview with Hank, but not sure I completely succeeded. This is a man who is referencing so much and then laying it bare for us if we're willing to engage with the work, if we're willing to really look. On first view, you can't see everything, but with a light and some time and planting your feet firmly in the ground in front of the work, you can see things that you might not otherwise have seen. And ...
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art made by women isn't nearly as visible as men's for the most part, which means people don't know to look for it. I wish we could grow to appreciate them more, but the media hasn't even scratched the surface in showcasing art made by female artists in a way that draws people in
If Turner was alive today, he'd be asking for his money back.🤣🤣🤣🇬🇧
Great talk - as always! Thank you Carrie and Tom
Thanks so much for listening!
Joana Vasconcelos has been working on this as well for some time, trying to give woman’s tradicional areas a bit more space to breathe.
I think part of it could be due to the fact that the vast majority of humans have lost touch with fibers in day-to-day life. Less than 100 years ago, people were much more likely to sew their own clothes or do their own repairs, making fiber art seem “commonplace” and “unworthy of celebration”. Now, with the spread of manufactured goods, there’s something more intimate and special about handmade textiles. People have lost touch with how intimately fibers have defined humanity. (I also agree fibers art being seen as a woman’s craft does make it seem less important. Really interesting & thought provoking video - I’ve also seen a rise of fiber arts at my local art museums).
this is definitely part of the conversation for sure!
I just learned about you and as an artist appreciate what you're doing. I just started a channel @Cakestu to document my process and I'm scared it may be in vain but people like you inspire me to keep going. Thank you 🙏💯
Personally, i think it's because people are so against AI art, and are trying to encourage people-made art, and so are embracing more techniques they previously hadn't. If that makes sense.
you definitely could be onto something here!
Idk what she is I’m too young to have grown up listening to her, but she personally sound like she stuck a fork in the electric socket and left it there
Art is a plausible excuse for a multitude of sins. Whilst some winners are clearly deserving, others go down the route of what can be audaciously gotten away with. Many will say I'm wrong but then We all perceive what We're exposed to differently.
I say you don’t know what you’re talking about, she’s talentless! You’re probably one of those people that think swinging a leaking bucket of paint over a canvas is art.
Most modern art substitutes weird for quality, narrow isms for scope, and trendy for depth. It also refuses to change or even talk about progressive ideas in art like those that follow Too many treat art as a marketing scheme. Modern art has become a trendy clique and the art now is mostly over promoted footnotes to greater art that was done 100 years ago. But art is too important to be reduced to a trendy clique. Post-ism, is art for a new century, not a continuation of last century trends. 1 Mass Market Paintings like Prints. When any art form is mass marketed it enters a golden age. This has happened with books, records, and film. Let's add paintings. Most art is in storage in museum basements. Mass Marketing allows art to tour in copies and allows artists to make royalties on copies. Why do you think the world gets so excited about a new great book, record, or film; but no one cares about a new great painting? All are mass produced except the painting. 2. End a Century of Isms. Dump the genres and formulas and let all kinds of art be a part of the art world. 3. Shift Emphasis From Trendy to Quality. Shift emphasis from the latest trendy art, to quality art in any style. Just because art is weird does not mean it is great art. 4. Free the Art From Museums and Galleries. Get the art out of the ivory elitist museum and gallery towers and back into the world. Have city art centers open to all artists. Make art that is relevant and communicates with people. Start with the first generation of artists online. 5. Postism is Part of a Bigger Revolution. Postism is part of the bigger art and media revolution out of Dallas, that includes art, music, lit, film, media, and a lot more. 6. Postism online: Online artists are the new wave of art. We had all the isms of last century. Now we have a free for all, of all kinds of artists, that are not sanctioned by any museum or gallery, displaying their work. Out of that comes the next wave and revolution of artists. Last century the goal was to fit the ism. This century the goal is to do great art - no ism, no boundaries. Fractionalized art then, synchronized art now. Even calling something modern art is a type of ism that separates that art from the art of the past. The 20th century was a century of experimentation in art. Now in the 21st we can choose from all those styles and / or start one of our own. Then too if someone devises a way to charge and collect a penny per view on a webpage, that would allow any great artist to get money for their art and have a career without any middlemen. Duchamp broke ground 100 years ago - but now his clones are just shoveling dirt. Weird art is easy, you put a strip of raw bacon across an expensive violin, but it's not good art. Join the art revolution and pull the art world out of last century. Musea since 1992.
That's such a cool museum
We really enjoyed it!
Great video Carrie - brilliant presentation. You should definitely be on TV - if only we had art on TV these days
Funny you say that.... that's what Seen is! (not on the TV obviously, but one step at a time)!
I have pencils and I'm waiting for the EMP.
I enjoyed the tour, thanks!
So glad you did!
Thank you for spreading awareness and talking about what is important 🫶🏼
You are so welcome!
I think 90% of all art galleries only think and care about their bottom line, and that's to sell and to take as long as possible to pay artists for the sale of their work.
There are certainly galleries out there like that. But there are also galleries who take their role of supporting an artists career very seriously.
@@watchseenart Fair enough, maybe this has just been my personal experience. Maybe I haven't been lucky enough to come across such a gallery in my 20 years as an artist.
I don’t like the thought of a world with out 100% human input, but what do I know, I’m just a program. Ones and zeros running on a cosmic scale, with the sands of time being my constant.
We're all in the upside down now.
I just found out I watch RUclips in my sleep lol
what a horribly and cheaply produced nothing video
So sorry you feel that way! we had to be a little undercover to record inside the Tate.
nice review, i havnt seen it myself but looks to me like huge progress , moving away from spectacle and nonsense can only be a good thing
We completely agree! Thanks for watching.
there's a reason she was committed to an institution by her first husband
The Scotts are multiplying!
No relation, but it certainly feels like we're multiplying!
Looks like a child drawing, and they just tiled it. Kinda trashy.
Unfortunately, we're going to have to disagree.
@@watchseenart All good, everyone has their own aesthetic tastes, and you're welcome to yours - I support you 100%. Posting it in an online forum, also lets me have a thought to interject - And I am pretty sure that's what the pattern is. A scribbled face tiled in squares.. Have an amazing day. :)
Do you think artists should or should not attend art fairs? You say to stay relevant you need to attend all of these art events, does that apply to artists?
Really good interview. Rashid's thoughts on parenthood as a transformative building of character were really interesting and right on target. I really like his piece "Fatherhood." It reminds me that being a dad is about providing structure, support and process to something which is wild and organic. And that often, it demands flexibility to let things go outside of that structure and a constant maintenance of balance. I think it's an elegant and sincere allegory. I'm sure he had something different in mind but I'm a coarse amateur, here!!! Also with regard to Plato: Aristotle's "Categories" touches on an expansion of the notion mentioned. He says that an apple, THE apple and a picture of the apple are all the same and are equally valid in their depictions of the subject. They are also all different but one is necessarily dependent on the others to exist and that we can only see and know things and make sense of them in comparison to each other. Worth a read or re-read.
So glad you liked it! Was epic to be able to have this conversation with Rashid.
Solid list and great suggestions. I'd add Gombrich's "The Story of Art" for those interested in titles like this. Great pictures and the writing is lovely.
Thanks for the suggestion! Love it!
I went to a co-ed school. Since I was young it had always caught my attention how the girls would gossip and be mean to each other and how boys would gossip and be mean to girls! It always bothered me how the boys seemed to be much more accepting and nice to each other than girls were among themselves. A couple of years ago there was talk about sorority and an attempt to bring women together but unfortunately I haven't seen any change and I think the movement had died down actually.
We would love to see more women-only art spaces for this reason!
It makes me think of quilting meets in local churches, or knitters circles, and women’s book clubs. My great aunt and her girlfriends used to knit thousands of scarfs and beanies in beautiful colors and hand it out to the gentleman at the local men’s homeless shelter when the weather got cold. My grandmother and her quilting friends would meet up at their church and make several quilts a year to give out to poorer families in the community so they could sleep warmer at night. And more importantly, they had amazing community with each other. My mom and her friends are very busy women with high stress jobs, but meeting together to just knit and shoot the breeze together was so important to her. Many of those women have been close pretty much since my mom moved there 20 years ago after leaving all her close friends behind several states over. Making friends as adults is hard as hell, but women’s groups have a way of turning strangers into family in the best way possible. ❤❤❤
It really does build community and friendship! Thanks for sharing these beautiful stories!
Do they mean female artists or an exhibit only women are aloud?
Women artists only.
Funny how everybody avoids human interaction while walking with their glass stimulation rocks already fulfilling their human needs with artificial human interaction. Strangely poetic in a kind of morbid way.
funny that
Her description sounds so pretentious. So tired of crap 'art' that looks like bad graffiti. Only jews and dumb white women swallow this garbage up.
Great conversation. First time hearing of this guy. I checked out his website and his art is super cool and varied. I love it. It's firmly on the ever expanding list of "Art I'll Never Be Able to Afford." I'm jealous you two are buddies. Keep cranking out episodes. You're great at these conversations; always accessible AND compelling.
Thanks so much for listening! Absolutely thrilled you enjoyed it.
I can see having a unique style, but give the same tools I don't see how it couldn't be recreated. Could you forge one? probably not, could you make one that looked like it would belong in a series? I don't see why not
K, well you're wrong
This makes me think of ratatouille. "Anyone can cook". Anyone can also pain. Anyone could make a masterpiece. I don't think pollocks paintings are good, but feel free to like them. I do think anyone could be a painter and could paint a masterpiece. Most people just won't.
I disagree and leave.
this is only 30s, you have plenty of time left to answer why
What has being white got to do with anything here?
Voice an opinion as to why at the end. You presented the question almost rhetorically without adding the awnser. You have half a short, just need the other half. 👍
you gave no real answer
Actually, yes, anyone could paint an abstract piece of art like or better than a Pollock. As you stated, the work is up for interpretation. Pollock's work is great because he was great before his best pieces.
I like youre glasses😊❤❤❤😊😊😊
I fixed your last sentence: Why do we need to bring back some dead asshole from the grave? The problem is he was an asshole, not that he was old, white or male.
Need to go see this in person.
Who needs the money more, security who can get a job legit anywhere, or the artists who are far less able to diversify, meaning they lose their chance at earning money.... I think this is obvious
I've always thought that the fair organisers are the greatest winners in this World
You're right!
Money, Money, Money
you're not wrong!
Money and lack of creativity can do wonders
The billionaires, the wealthiest people on the globe got hacked? Can't say I'm too concerned.
Yoko is crazy. Looks like her fan base is too. Yes we are still mad