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Leaving Gau alone in a challenge run is your best decision, because he would otherwise break the game with just a couple of rages.

I get why it wasn't here, but that got me interested in a FF4 No Magic run (PR/originals. DS and PSP/Advance are an entirely different challenge). I don't think it's necessarily that hard, mainly extremely grindy. Trying to break FF4DS may be fun, though?

I see a Xephrost video on my top recommended, I click. <3 Also best magic system probably FF7 for me. I like that you were limited until the very end of the game on both uses and how many spells you could take etc., so you had to really plan out what you were using and when

final fantasy 2 didnt need magic at all? well. now i can finally play the game.

In fairness, the missile base having a self-destruct makes sense if you consider that you can program the missiles to target ANY coordinates. An enemy that takes it over would be able to just bomb Galbadia's capital at will.

For those who don't know FF2 well, remember that he's underselling how useful magic is in that game a bit - Haste, Berserk and Blink are all amazing, with the latter in particular being absolutely game breaking if you combine it with a priority on equipping for high evasion. That's right, magic is good...when it directly interacts with physical attacks. Okay it's also useful for high defense enemies and general instant death shenanigans but it's funnier to focus on how the best uses for magic either make your physical attacks better or make enemy physical attacks worse.

Hmm fair enough sir

Hearing the healing numbers for all these runs has me reminiscing about Lufia's item spread. I watched an "items only" run recently and they have 3-4 tiers of multiple types of damaging items, while the FF series has junk healing, great healing for the first 25% of the game, nothing, nothing, endgame full-healing. Where are the very high potions? The heavy potions? The demi-lixirs?

My first FF8 run was when I was 12 years old on release. It was absurdly difficult until I realized something was off. I forced myself to figure it out around the end of disc one. Then thought to myself, "but this feels like cheating".

Any reason you didn't do 9, 10 and 12?

I thought you would try to do at least FFXII without Magic challenge too! 😢😢😢😢

As a slightly older kid playing FF8 for the first time, I do remember it being pretty easy to grasp how effective turning tents into curagas and HP junctions was.

Do you have any particular feelings about the Sadness and Hyper statuses in FF7? When I was a dumb teenager I would keep my whole party Hyper for the limit gains, and didn't learn that Hyper and Sadness also affect the damage you receive until basically the end of the game. :D Hearing you talk about how strong and frequent limit breaks are just got me thinking of it. None of what you said about the balance of attacks and magic sounded foreign to me, but hearing it out loud it really is odd. I guess FF7 is what linear wizards quadratic fighters would look like? I don't actually disagree with using the Enemy Skill [command] materia, but it's funny that the first thing you used has "magic" in the name. XD

I'm here to once again advocate for Bravely Default & Bravely Second to be played for the channel

We need a do over on ff7. Using enemy magic is a disqualified in most of your fans books.

07:00 [Insert sad Kimahri noises here.] I swear the poor guy is the sole exception to "Blue Magic is pretty powerful" because he also has to shoulder The Dragoon Curse.

A rare correct pronunciation of "Cyan", bravo!

An FF2 remake that makes the system better and fleshes out the characters more would be amazing

Seeing you play through these games helped me to see the good and bad parts of no magic And with eight its a cakewalk with or without magic once you break the system

Safe at home, once again, thanks to Xephrost.

What's everyone's favorite magic system? (Final Fantasy or otherwise)

Yay! I’m super early for my Friday friend.

I spent so much time downloading and trying to make the translation patch work just to realize I preferred the license board

Thank you I enjoyed listening too ur play through. Very soothing voice you have. ❤

lol im doing a new plathrough and had this awful idea and ofc someone already did it on youtube

“Guy can speak beaver…and they Guy’s us through.” 😂 comedic genius

35:23 Nice.

Very cool! FFT is my favorite game! I make fft music covers

Would reis count as a dragon in this challenge run?

You both did a great job, so glad these are back!

These are so fun! Glad they're back!

Monster eggs match level to a random party member

I actually loved the motorcycle game at the time, it was my favorite minigame. A few years later, in college, I even dug deep into the snowboarding and loved it. My 20-30-year-old memories are clearly more trustworthy than this weeks-old playthrough!

There are actually many good Steals in FF7, from the top of my head there is Striking Staff in the Train Graveyard Carbon Bangles and Hardedge in Shinra HQ before you get captured. Shinra Beta on the Cargo Ship Right Arms from Bombs on the way to North Corel Gold Bangles from the Dragons on Mt. Nibel Turbo Ethers in the Nibelheim Mansion Adamantine Armlets from the Adamantoise on the beaches near Wutai Circlets in the Great Glacier Shinra Alphas in the Underwater Reactor Also at 18:00 you can use select in battle and it will start showing the target’s name (and HP if you’ve used Sense)

The only time I ever had difficulty with FF8 was on my first playthrough. I severly underestimated of important junctions and drawing of spells were. I replayed it in 2023 and things got a bit smoother, though I made the mistake to draw every spell to maximum in case I needed it. Today, I know the only status ailment spells I need are confuse and sleep in case I encounter a Malboro on the Esthar Fields. My characters can still run while berserk. Or was it run while confused? It certainly was a lot smoother, though I only scrached TT on a surface level to get Squall's second to last weapon on dis 2. Sure, I could get Lionheart on Disc 1, but I didn't felt like that..

I wonder how an "intended" run of FF8 would even look like. like the devs must have tested it and determined it was good SOMEHOW.

I’d love to see you do all the final fantasy 5 jobs

Kinda broke the challenge being able to use magic to junction. The only 3 spells u need in the game are curaga, full life and meteor

I absolute adore FF8 partially because of how easy it is to break the game wide open

So basically a normal run.

I have a challenge request for you! Final Fantasy 1 NES Magic Only I recommend 4 Black Mages since you can learn Nuke upon promotion. 😊😊😊 I've done this myself, so it is possible, I usually try to do runs myself before I request them, so I know they're possible. I love your content! 😊😊😊

I wonder if "No magic, GF, Fight, or Limit Breaks" would be interesting. Obviously, some concessions would need to be made to be able to get the ability to deal any damage at all... but could be fine as a minimalist run.

Fun run! I did a gf abilities only run recently ( So your darksides, revive, recover, etc) Mad Rush was actually pretty powerful lol!

FF8: Cards are fun to play and also broken. FF9: Cards suck to play and are also useless.

The challenge of FFVIII is finding an actual challenge

I don't wanna yuck your yum but this is how everyone plays already :D The only challenging boss in the game is Omega, and you can cheese that with items anyway. I think the only way to make the game hard is to never use card mod. Maybe I'll give that a shot someday.

0:02 no pls i don't wanna CUM IN

an actual challenge is no cards and it's still not that hard

FF8 is my favorite broken child Almost everything can be trivialized and the game becomes more of a "meta spreadsheet knowledge check" making it an entirely different kind of game altogether... with that said I've replayed at least eight times and still have fun breaking it in new ways

You sound like you're......... Well I'll get in trouble for saying Also I didn't know this was a challenge run. Played this way since 98 or 99 or whatever