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In 2008 I paid $75 for the Foreskin Flight app for my iPhone the iPad did not even yet exist . It was the most expensive app in the entire iPhone app catalog back then. It was priced that way because it was supposed to be a one time purchase. A few years later Foreskin Flight discovers that they could make a lot more money with a subscription based service. So what do they do - they stop supporting the version I have and switched everything to the app that requires a subscription. Does Foreskin Flight give any love to its founding customers…………NOPE ! Now I’m not looking to get free forever (even though that’s how it was originally advertised !) but a fair remedy for your FOUNDING CUSTOMERS would at the very least be a $75 subscription credit for the new version. Do they bother to offer that ? Nope ! So you know what………. F*CK YOU Foreskin Flight ! I will use ANY OTHER APP but yours !!!

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Def buy an iPad regardless of platform. Better support, stable and first to receive updates. Can’t peak to mobile receivers. If you already learned 1 platform, just stay on it; switching is like having learned on PC and switching to a Mac… not fun and counterintuitive. If you own an aircraft with Garmin avionics with EIS, go Garmin for the incredible logging features and livestream of EIS data. Both platforms interface nicely with any GTN navigator (with a flightstream card) or with a GTX transponder via Bluetooth for ADSB WX & traffic.

I used Garmin pilot for years and I personally like it much better than ForeFlight. I also prefer android over iPad. However, I was ultimately forced to switch to ForeFlight when I brought my own plane because I don’t have Garmin avionics, and Garmin pilot pretty much only works with other Garmin products. In order to get Bluetooth flight plans and synchronization I had to use ForeFlight. I think ForeFlight offers a superior weather product, no surprise considering that’s where they started. But I think Garmin pilot gave me a better overview of weather with their station information display. Logbook wise Garmin pilot is also slightly easier if you need to go back later and edit or download the CSV files. I’m gonna keep using ForeFlight because that’s what works for my current airplane. If I ever come into “my fortune“ and upgrade to a TM 930 or epic 1000 GX I’ll switch back to Garmin pilot then :-)

I used them both for about a year and GP won by a nose for me living in the L.A. area. I like the way GP displays Class B airspace more and also the integration with my Garmin Avionics. It seems to be just slightly more intuitive. I don't think you can go wrong with either. Airline Pilot here and Cessna 421 owner.

Hopefully to answer your question I’m a big ForeFlight user I’ll be using ForeFlight since 2015. I did try out Garmin pilot for me. Garmin pilot doesn’t do doesn’t work for me ForeFlight with the amount of features and offers for the for a competitive price range at ForeFlight was better for me specially for the missions I’ve have done From being a volunteered patrol pilot, which is the auxiliary Air Force working on getting my Flight instructor ratings and search for I’ve been ForeFlight was better for me now because your mission is more local and not that much you know during cross country or flight training all that stuff I think government pilot might be the best option but the best advice I can give you free back into general aviation is I’ll say if you’re able to get a good opportunity to try both and see which one will fit your mission a little bit better because Pilot does have better have some better features than ForeFlight for certain missions and vice versa. The same goes for ForeFlight so it was hope this helps.

looks very familiar (minus the film studio). In addition I have a high-vis vest and I can recommend gel cups for your ASA (I actually got DC gel cups and cut them to size to fit mine, back in the 90's and they still work like a charm).

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👍✅👏 Tks Josh, still enjoying the videos!

As an Android user, and someone that has written Garmin apps I bought an iPad and Foreflight. Foreflight is not only feature rich but it's used way more. It will even upload to the Garmin G1000 via Flight Stream or the SD card.

WingX Pro is better than both of them. Much more user friendly and intuitive.

Reminds me of the T38 flight. "HEAT OFF....TURN THE HEAT OFF... HEEEEAAT OOOOOFFF!"

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Where else? Long Beach,Burbank, Palm Springs, SBP, SBA to start.

Even cooler is the sudden power cut and physical drop at steep climb-out angle 25 seconds into takeoff (for noise abatement). Scares the poop out of the first-timers!

Agree!

Foreflight was my choice because it seemed more intuitive to me than Garmin's. Most everyone I know uses Foreflight for what ever that's worth. I have tried iFly too but it seems to lag. As far as the issue with having to get an iPad, I find an iPad to be about the cheapest thing you might need in aviation - I can't believe it's an issue. Use your Android for your other stuff and just keep the iPad for flying. I have a iPad mini that I only use for flying so it's not loaded with lots of superfluous apps.

Garmin Pilot is what I have and use. It was the best choice for me as I already had the Android phone, GDL50 and tablet. So, saving me on TCO is always a great plus with aviation or aircraft ownership.

GP all the way. I have used both, arguably GP more than FF but tried both. I am an iPad guy so that didnt weigh in but the avionics stack being Garmin did help me decide. I like the integration and it keeps pilot workload down so I can focus on flying.

I've used both and can make a case for both. Always used android but figured I could buy a previous gen iPad to use for flight bag. Big mistake. Both ran way too slow on the iPad compared to my android phone with GP. Sold the iPad and just went back to using GP on my phone. Having on my phone is so nice I can do all my planning and filing right there so if you have a GOOD android phone you should use GP. I also had a Samsung A7 lite tablet and that also was too slow to run garmin pilot effectively. You need a new powerful device for either one. GP pros: on my phone. Can update avionics from it. I think it's cheaper than fore flight. GP cons. Android version lacks some features but I must not use them. Ads b receivers are more expensive (but generally have good resale, I have a garmin GDL 50). I think you need a subscription to use the log book. There aren't really any good mini android tablets that are capable of running it so you need a powerful phone. Foreflight pros: apparently runs well on latest gen iPad. Uses cheaper receivers like stratus. I thought some things were more intuitive with fore flight like it would show which departure procedures are for piston aircraft vs jet so I would know what to expect vs having to get assigned one and then brief it with GP Fore flight cons: needs a latest iPad or iphone to run smoothly which will cost you. Can't use your android phone as backup. More expensive. Doesn't integrate as well with garmin avionics for updating them. The iPad I had also would overheat. Ultimately they both do the same things, plan and file flight plans (I thought fore flights filing was more intuitive), both have georeferenced plates and traffic. Disclaimer: I'm the type of pilot to rarely use my phone or iPad. I have everything on my avionics but if I'm on a cross country having the phone is nice because it's small enough to not get in the way or be distracting and can see traffic and weather. Either one you will be fine with but if you have an android phone with a fast processor I would go with GP and just use that for flying but if you want to use a tablet then you'll need a fast tablet (latest iPad mini) to run foreflight or garmin pilot well and could still use your phone as backup if needed.

Another "Rusty Pilot" here. Never thought I'd be at the controls ever again after I was misdiagnosed by a Navy "Doctor" way back in 1974. That came at the most inopportune time, as I had just finished my Commercial Pilot training, but hadn't scheduled my check ride yet. Long story short, a few years after I was discharge, I went to a civilian Doctor who determined the Navy didn't have any basis for their diagnosis, and put it writing. Still, I was discharged based on that misdiagnosis. Fast forward to 2023, when I saw that AOPA was holding a "Rusty Pilot" seminar at the Buckeye Air Fair. A moment of "I wonder if..." popped into my head and I decided to go. Feeling hopeful, I scheduled a consultation with an AME, who made my day, when he said he thought a 3rd Class Medical was doable and given the years that have passed, the Navy error shouldn't be an issue. However, I did have Cardiac Bypass surgery in 2014, so special issuance time. Well after, six months and several requests for more info, more tests I was granted a SI 3rd Class. Two weeks ago, I was at the controls again with a CFI. I was a little nervous around the edges, especially on my first landing. Things are coming back pretty quickly. Two things have helped, one is that way back, I did have advanced training and two, I've been up a few times with a friend who has a 172, and I got a little stick time. With each passing session, my confidence is coming back, and it feels great.

The 7GCBC is a very great aircraft to get your Tailwheel endorsement in and i love flying around in Tailwheel aircraft

The Cardinal that I’ve been flying in has the exact same Dylon Avionics except waiting on a auto pilot to certify to work with the Dylon system

If money is no object, ForeFlight, the catch being you have to purchase an overpriced iOS device. That being said, I too am a "Rusty Pilot" who recently received his SI 3rd Class Medical and I'm back with a CFI to get current. My CFI is also a commercial pilot flying Citations for his "day" job and uses ForeFlight, However, for the rest of us who are flying for "fun" ForeFlight is probably overkill. I've settled in with iFlyEFB which runs fantastic on my $160 Android Tablet, and my Windows PC. iFlyEFB connects with most ADS-B's except Stratus II. But since I'll be a renter, I picked up a Stratux to take my ADS-B with me. Now if ForeFlight was ever made available for Android, I might bite. As far as Garmin Pilot, I've read that Garmin shows more love for their iOS version leaving their Android version wanting.

Android tablets have consistently, for years now, been total garbage. iPads are popular because they’re dependable and consistent, exactly the kind of hardware you need if you’re going to be using an EFB.

Your son is looking at gauges instead of watching out for other aircraft and birds!!

Your content is great! You should def have more subs. Just subscribed!

well done sir!

Your son would have really enjoyed the stall if you dropped a wing😊

Scares me just watching y’all

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Hard to do give feedback with this one view. Do You have a tie down ring on the tail? Maybe mount an additional camera?

"Intuitive" is subjective. I started with an iPad, which I purchased specifically for flying, and had to pick between Seattle Avionics FlyQ and ForeFlight. At the time (2014), I determined that Garmin Pilot was not in the same league as FlyQ or ForeFlight. I found FlyQ to be more intuitive, so I picked it over ForeFlight. However, FlyQ suffered a failure (a bug?) that forced me to cancel a cross-country flight. FlyQ could not upload current charts, and blocked necessary features because of lack of current charts. I decided to test drive ForeFlight for a month, and ultimately switched to ForeFlight. Seattle Avionics customer service was excellent, and technical support was eager to help, but unable to convince me that FlyQ was reliable. I tried FlyQ again a few years later taking advantage of a special subscription price of $29. However, by then, I was completely comfortable with the "intuitive" ForeFlight interface and decided to stick with ForeFlight. I have the Sentry Ads-B receiver for ForeFlight. Some reviews complain that ForeFlight lacks "connectivity", but I get weather, file flight plans, record flights and save flight logs, set up BlueTooth connections with my David Clark and Bose headsets, share flight plans across devices, and more. I cannot connect with my Garmin GNS 430, and by the way, I prefer Garmin avionics, but the cost of adding BlueTooth connectivity for my GNS 430 is currently more than I want to spend. Your question has motivated me to explore Garmin Pilot, but I have a lot invested in ForeFlight and will find it difficult to switch. As a disclaimer, I am an Apple fanatic, and despite all of the haters, the only problem I have with the iPad is overheating, and I have multiple solutions to tackle that problem. Apple products are simply more reliable than Android products, and that seems to be important in aviation. After 10 years, I can confidently say that the Apple iPad and ForeFlight are very reliable. A cost-benefit analysis might favor Garmin Pilot on an Android tablet, but I can afford the iPad and ForeFlight Pro Plus, and I have no complaints. My wife spends more on coffee in a week than I spend on ForeFlight in a month. Unfortunately, I had to get a second mortgage on the house and sell a kidney to buy an iPad. ;-)

I learned to fly in a 7ECA Citabria........ Tail # N5257X

no Its a Citabria i have a picture with it on skis

5247 x that was my citabria i would like to get that one back

The question remains... which one is the best for BVR? lol

I’m on Garmin because I bought a Garmin Marq Aviator watch which included a free, 6 month Pilot Navigator for free.

I would choose Garmin for me,but you should choose fore flight as money is not a problem

I’ve used both. I like Garmin with their ability to connect with onboard avionics thru flight stream. Unfortunately I can’t load jepp charts into garmin. It does not support international charts. Foreflight to me is way too distracting with its bells and whistles. It also doesn’t have any connectivity to any avionics.

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Desert Storm era F-15 Avionics guy here. I would compare Foreflight to removing all the tactile knobs on the F-15's controls and replacing them with generic round ones. I used GP as a private pilot but my flight school makes us use Foreflight. GP was more intuitive with easy to use thumbnails. I like the direct, nearest, and emergency buttons and the timer being front and center. Everything was easily accessible from a click on the map. It integrated perfectly with other Garmin avionics in the cockpit and they all had the same look and feel. Foreflight, for me, requires a greater cognitive load because it has a lot of textual menus and small icons. Menu bars that could be easily expanded and reduced with a single button at the bottom have to be opened and closed in the settings. The timer is part of the "More" menu and takes up a third of the screen, darkening the map when it opens. It's only the leader in the field because it became standard before Garmin had the same functionality. The only advantage I've seen is the built-in logbook, but personally I wouldn't pay almost twice as much annually just for that. I'm sure pilots who started on Foreflight will think GP looks like a kid's app, but it's exactly that appearance that makes it so intuitive. FYI, nice shot of the radar. Can't tell you how many dipoles and waveguides I've replaced or how much safety wire I've run on the covers! 😁

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I still haven't decided between Garmin pilot and foreflight but I know I'll have to get an iPad just because even Garmin pilot on Android is missing features it has on the iPad. Otherwise avare is a good app for androidand free. Not sure which device to use as adsb in for avare but I know sentry is the go to for foreflight.

If literally all you want is something to monitor ADS-B Traffic (TIS-B), then there are free apps that you could use like Avare or FltPlan Go for Android. I think FltPlan Go is compatible with more ADS-B receivers, but I find Avare to be a superior flight display. I keep Avare on my Android phone as a backup set of maps and GPS navigator in a pinch. That being said, ForeFlight is my primary EFB, which I find to be a very intuitive and reliable setup.

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I use GP because I already had an android tablet and phone, and have a Garmin panel. My tab and G3X panel cross connect great via Bluetooth, so I do my flight planning on the tab and it easily loads to the panel. And if I change the FP on my panel it changes on the tablet too. GP is also loaded on my android phone for no extra charge. Garmin has updated GP very well to compare to FF, although there is slightly more of a learning curve, and I speak mostly Garmin already. (Garmin also has a portable ADS-b receiver.) I've never had an overheating issue with my tablet even in hot weather, but I'm sure they all vary. Of course my panel is always loaded with current nav data as well as my phone for yet another backup. For android cost and Garmin compatibility, I'd say go for GP. For first time or part time use in various aircraft then FF would be the best choice. I am very happy with GP, but just don't care for Apple products even though the build qualities are excellent. Good luck, and happy shopping!

Always enjoy the not so rusty anymore pilot

Of course, I will stick with you. I’m your mama. Lol