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It was a nice marathon, im glad its finished😁

Never gotten them all either. I always say i will one day. lol How long did it take you?

It took not so much time, its important to make a note wich system you already opened. Also i marked it with a nav beacon and named it. You can find a list on Egosoft forum, or in the video description.

No, no mods. Maybe it was a bug, i do not know. At least the I does shoot. I observed these Xenon roaming around for some while, maybe some turrets had a defect🧐

@@egoaut In my game, if you take a Behemoth E that close to an I, you'll get a gravaton turret lightshow that will kill the Behemoth in about a minute. I wonder if the rng difficulty at seed gen affects Xenon turret power and behavior.

I do not think so. In the end of the video, you see the I gravs shoot. Nevertheless like mentioned in the end, @31:00 those Behemoths lost, what i did not say is thst they got killed.😢 Phoenix E did a much better job👍

And the Xenons did win!1🤡

With 16x S docks it can do everything, but you need to adapt your tactic.

@@egoaut Any tips for drones specifically?

First destroy engines (tricky with I) and XL shield generator first. Best by yourself or with S ships(w. some burst rays), drones are slow but hard to hit but it could work.

@@egoaut That... sounds just about the only way you could properly do it anyways... Most important is taking out the engines, and because the drones probably can´t reliably do that, you do it yourself with a fighter and Burst Lasers: fast in and out and hopefully with both engines gone.

The fastest way is doing it yourself with a burst laser S-ship, destroying the XL shields and maybe engines. I have done this a lot back in the days in early games, mostly drones from nearby stations finished the I or K. With the right timing, you can earn a lot of bounty Cr. But your first question, if 70 drones can break the tank of an I is realy interesting. Maybe i will try this in a future video.

Here is a link to the official Egosoft forum, where you can vote to change the mentioned ab/shield mechanic: forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=467680&sid=5f735f25db76c27e23d009e5b21967f9 Edit: voting ended. A new boost mechanism will come....stay tuned.

That´s exactly the point: if you flee, you don´t need the shield, it´s the distance that protects you, so the shield literally becomes your rescue by being turned into speed. In the previous games the boost only was to accellerate to max speed, but i like it this way, it gives you an tactical advantage for which you have to pay. Especially since you can no longer jump with your ship whenever you want. Key is to judge when you need the shield more and when the speed.

S ships are the best to combat L/XL. Frigates and AI Asgards are too stupid and (still) behave like lemmings. Only the player can handle the big ships properly. I'd rather lose expensive S ships than expensive L/XL with good crew. Edit: with 7.0 i observed Asgard hitting station with mainbeam 🤗

@@egoaut And once you can produce them yourself the "expensive" becomes quitely insignificant., it´s more a time issue then. Since the wharft can create a LOT of fighters at once, well, mass production IS a thing, right? ;)

Never forget, everything has a value. You could sell your build ships and get money, so you lose money when you produce for yourself 🤓

@@egoaut Not if you use them to gain more money, then it´s an investment. Protecting your stations from Xenon is definitely a worthwhile investment, i´d say XD

INTERCEPTORS, thats it!!11 I knew it did work, once upone ruclips.net/video/nOKMeUdjIuM/видео.htmlsi=oJK2Hyzf_7Q0BpEz I have to test it again....EDIT: NO, does not work.

@@egoaut I have something better, a concept that I love, bombers with interceptor capability. For example, a wing of Chimera with 4 thermal and 1 torpedo launcher (my bomber Chimera config), select Position defence for the wing, drag the circle were the enemies are, all targets will be engaged, be escorts or capitals, superior to attack all in range, because PD keeps your fighters in the area until you remove PD. Or, in case of fighters with 4 guns slots, you can try 2 bolt + 2 BM, to keep the bomber/interceptor hybrid capability.

No thats not my tactic. I want to strip my enemys, and then let the L's come. Torpedos are nice, but i want a role for those hatet frigates and destroyers. And i do not want to resupply my vanguard fleet.

@@egoaut To each its own, I just think that "strippers"require too much micro for my taste and destroyers are soooo slow in doing anything, moving to position, targeting, and if the target moves, they have to do that "dancing" all over again, I don't have that much time.

Shih, Ares,..all heavy S fighters on my video. Do you mean M corvettes or frigates, yes you can, but Raptor only has 1x landing platform, it takes a while to start/land.

Yes, this is why i like S ships so much.❤ The fast shield regen can be such a nice advantage in fights, if used correctly.

Yes, i did fly long full speed next to the structure. I would realy like a structure with teleport point and a good view from a observation deck

@egoaut let me emphasise.... Orbital velocity at about ISS distance is *7.7 km/s.* You were flying to AT VERY LEAST a moon-sized construct. Forgot to mention this earlier. Lol 😁

I had these Mk4, so i used them for the video. But SPL Mk3 engines are nearly as good, and need way less material. The weapon loadout is my "allround" set for S,M,L,XL. Normaly i use 30x of them, and have barely lost any against single K or I❤. Shih is a good H.fighter as long as they stay <40km with the fleet, they are too slow, and can get caught when they fly back. Chimera is a better Vanguard H.fighter😊

Ohh, and i thought that they had some damaged turrets.🤔 Btw. a honor to see you on my channel, i like your videos👍

@@egoaut Thanks! You could be right, I just thought I saw intact turrets not firing, and I've seen the same thing in my game.

Wich Mods do you mean? The game is vanilla. The ship uses SLINGSHOT as engine mod

Dayum, your game is soo smoth I thought you have some mods in it.. ​@@egoaut

​@@Petr.mp4, its SLINGSHOT

I agree with you, but i think PAR's are made to damage stations in the first line.

Whats with Split-Plasma? The highest dps i mean. Shorter range i know ^^

They look and do great, but the range sucks. Once upone i had them on my Raptor. I tried a Raptor only game, but the destruction of stations took soo long, i skipped this idea🤪 and took 10x destroyers with PAR with me. For Station destruction you need a long range, the PAR is ideal because the dpm loss is not so relevant on not moving targets when you miss a shot, and it has the fastest projectile speed.

@@egoaut maybe i should change to Argon/Paranid-Plasma ^^

PAR also has way less ROF, every missed shots costs a lot of DPM..

@@egoaut Par is more likely to hit, it travels 132 m/s faster and is perfectly accurate.

This is true PAR has the fastest projectile speed, but in my opinion the "feeling" with ARG/TEL plasmas is better when you fly a destroyer by yourself, as long as you do not need to chase a K, then you feel the slower speed🤓 I know PAR has the better stats, but i feel safer with a higher ROF. Travelspeed and tracking speed is not soooo relevant, its still slow L plasma turret.

Yes the stats look way more better. SPL ones should have +25% more dmg or at least speed, and they look huge. TEL & ARG look good while ARG have much more tracking. So TEL should have much more HP.

@@egoautsplit plasma better for rattlesnake, when you attack K or I from blind spot and close distance.

​​@@ivantorrent495, KI can not handle them. As playership with SPL turrets it looks way better. But compared with PAR they lack on dmg, i mean the difference is not that high but PAR can shoot while SPL is out of range, if you know what i mean. A Raptor can kill I with every type😊With SPL tech it looks way better, real huge 😮

I think they will get slaughterd by S & M's, 2x flak turrets are to weak they have no burst projection on the enemy. M's are good interceptors but bad in the bombard role🥴

I am not sure, the old versions had too much turrets and kind of no shields (X-X3 BalaGi). Witch dreadnoughts do you mean? Asgard and Erlking are OP enough (my opinion). I would like a kind of Astrid designed as X3 Yacht with at least one S hangar🤗

@@egoaut ALL OF THEM

Ingame terrans are great mf's😅 and these are Argon ships.....but i know what you mean.😊

Zumindest nicht wenn du den KI Piloten ans steuer lässt, genug schwere Raketen 🚀 solltest auch immer dabei haben. Aber 80km Radar ist nicht schlecht, und sehr nützlich.👍

@@egoaut Kannst Du dieses Schiff bauen oder weshalb hast Du da mehrere davon?

@@Ronolein Sobald du die Sapporo geborgen hast, wird im HQ die Forschung Sapporo freigeschaltet. Nach dem erforschen hast du dann die Blaupause fürs Schiff und die Waffen.

@@moonraven8394 Hey danke, das ist doch mal ein Argument endlich dieses Szenario zu beginnen. Ich hab das immer vor mir hergeschoben. ;-)

@@Ronolein die Raketen wirst du aber nur an deinen Stationen auffüllen können. Ich hoffe man kann die, wie alle anderen Raketen, nur aus Energiezellen fertigen wenn man auf den geschlossenen Kreislauf (closed Loop) geht.

No mods.

Yes, a real fatal challenge for S/M. 🤫Until you get close enough with your L ship.

Hitting 2x F3 and then with the NUM numbers to rotate 4,6,2,8 ... 5 reset cam

No

👍Yes, but my poor old Dragons get rusty. They need a buff, at least the Raider version some HP more.

@@egoaut Sorry for the late response. I actually agree. I would like them to update the older ships & maybe modernize their interior like the Nemesis/Kuraokami having stairs instead of the elevator. And maybe 2 more seats so I wont feel lonely hahah

Thanks for the nice comment. I'll try it. In my last frigate videos, the focus was perhaps a little too much on the chaos of the battle. ruclips.net/video/wTEB_HHg5hM/видео.html Korvettes vs pirates: ruclips.net/video/Im38U-LnJZg/видео.html

The design or the color? 😢

@@egoaut The combination of both. The color looks alright on flatter ships, and the ship looks good in it's original paintjob, but the ship and the paintjob combined, yeah that's just horrible. I guess there was a reason why Boron did not let you paint their ships back in X3

​​@@trainee5471, yeah...i made a complain @egosoft forum. Normaly the color looks great on non DLC ships...see my videos...with a little purple+yellow+grey, but that simple purple color is lame. Edit Link: forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=5251044#p5251044

Its not pink its violett 🙏Normaly its bicolor violett/yellow, but lazy Egosoft painted all DLC (and the new) only violett😤 You only get this paint when you finish the yaki plot and clear the Xenon sectors around them. I still hope they will correct this. When you know my videos you see grey/violett/yellow ship paints - this is how they should look like. Edit ES Forum: forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=5251044#p5251044

Thanks for your suggestions. I'm not a great speaker and I almost only make videos where the AI ​​does everything - so just watch, listen to the music and enjoy. Comments and descriptions of the video can usually be found in the video description, or are self-explanatory as video titles. I also rarely make video comments in the form of text or let Google Translate do the talking for me ;)

Yes, i love the I's.🤪 The look and sound of these giants is phenomenal. Once upon i tried to fly with my space-suit on a sight seeing tour around an I, it was a great experience to get a feeling of its huge dimensions.😁

I normaly use S fighters against K&I. But to show the capabilitys of L's, i used 4x in these 3 test videos. 5x would be too much, i want to see them fail to see the differences better.

@@egoaut ah i see you like to see your pilots suffer

AI learned to keep distance, and these Xenons maybe did not have full turrets? All 3 videos (Sapporo, Phoenix E, Behemoth E) have the same save to start with, if you looked them xou know these Xenon can shoot😊. In that save i have a lot of Xenon in "The Void" roaming around. This was one of the Xenon doomsday fleet there.

Yes, and the design is great. Also 3 separat engines🥰

Well, one of the destroyers had to be the worst of the bunch - that's the nature of any comparisons - weakest main gun battery of them all - fewest turrets (tied with the Behemoth), especially when it comes to L turrets - when using TEL equipment, it's hampered even more - TEL shields give it more tankiness, but TEL turrets make it harder for it to fight back, and TEL engine hinders its cruise speed in combat and the ability to break away - and to add insult to injury, it is more expensive than Odysseus E (which outguns it by far, but is squishier) and Behemoth E (which can outgun it if using the S carrying capacity and is just as tanky) and even the Boron Ray (outguns and outtanks it), so it is not that cheap at all It does not help that for many, the majority of encounters with a Phoenix E would be when Scale Plate Pact gets naughty - and those are under-equipped and very easy to disable, board, take over and then strip & sell. It's still a destroyer, so it can be useful if properly kitted out and utilised - but not a very good one. It's better than the old Phoenix Vanguard/Sentinel, at least, as they were both slower and had problems bringing the L turrets to bear at a target directly in front of them...

Yeah, but it's fugly.

Give Phoenix E a chance. It is one of the best destroyers, let me explain. In my latest game i captured a lot of the normal Phoenix and Behemoth (not E) for free from PGS. I had a large fleet of them, and reconquered sectors from the Xenon. Behemoths sucked compared to Phoenix, curious? They are great in bombarding stations because of the maingun range. But the best is, they are hard to hit when flanking K,I's. The X target the middle of the Phoenix, and there is a lot of space w/o structure. And those 3 engines are also hard to destroy, while the M turrets on the mushroom do a good job. The same with the Phoenix E❤ A little bit bigger, but faster, and better L arcs. Compared to the Odysseus E (and Behemoth E), the Phoenix E is smaller and much harder to hit. I am realy very impressed.

Yes thats nice

Phoenix E really impressed me, the stayed close together, they are fast, and they used the mainguns😍

@@egoaut yeah thats what i also realised, it might have to do with the 183m/s max speed they can reach which seems to be the sweet spot for the AI to be good when firing and running away

I think that will never come.😥 With a VR option i would be more happy.🤗

Danke für die ausführlichen Infos👍

in practice less than 100 heavy barrage missiles on a saporro can take down a K

My goal is to use only small numbers of ships to show their abilitys. Yes, they did a good work and its my bad that they had not enough heavy missiles🤫. Main problem was the broken formation, 2x Sapporo did fight the first K while the others take too long to show up. So they lost too much missiles and time to save the first doomed Sapporo.

@@egoaut yeah the difference in dps from using light barrage missiles is pretty significant

When i got first Sapporo from Mists of Artemis this ship managed to destroy a lot of xenon's fighters even with heavy barrage missiles (very good vs swarm). IMHO you want use only heavy barrage missiles on Sapporo.

@@Dronus1 i want the L version of the electromagnetic turret haha

Odachi from Timelines is a very very nice M ship❤, i love it. Also the Shuttle😊 Sapporo is a nice Playership, but not powerful in AI hands. I mixed in this video 50:50% (230:230) light and heavy missiles, my bad. But its 80km radar range is unique, travel speed is ok, but 160m/s sucks😢. I will test it as fleetleader, i think it could be great for the subs, or at least as miner guard vs Khaak. Stay tuned, i did the same scenario with Behemoth E and Phoenix E (mixed tech). One of them did a real great job😮

@@egoaut I do have a soft spot for base game ships. I rather enjoy making the "forgoten once a DLC drops" ships/fleets work. 😉

@@ragnos28 do a tokyo

@@rawrmcsaurs6052 I can't...the asymmetrical shape scratch my eyes. 😵‍💫 Al I can stand is to have them follow an Asgard, but piloting one? Hell, no...😐

​@@egoautsapporo is literally a command ship. It will send its subordinate units to any target that matches its mission within its radar range. Give it one carrier, that carrier has the usual setup of interceptors, attack bombers and bombardment destroyers subordinated to the carrier. Have the carrier attack for the sapporo. The sapporo will send it out and the carrier will in turn deploey its own forces according to plan.

Look this 🤓ruclips.net/video/IlQ908iHzjE/видео.html But its AI not me.

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