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If you are playing Utsuho, that is pretty much correct, although her 2B, 623def and 22 are quite the tools for that too, especially 623 and 22 as they can be used during your ground dash to brake the dash and attack at the same time

Thank you! Doing what I can to make the game more accessible. I've made other guides for Hisoutensoku, you can find them in my playlists or just in general on the channel and I'm working on more actually, it just takes time.

Glad to hear this pushed you to try the game further! Right now I'm trying to finish a video about "Offense", similarly built like my "Defense" video but it's also half a bizarre art project so the actual work on it is longer than expected.

Thank you very much for the praise, doing my best! Is there something going on recently that makes the video better?

@@ShiGen Nothing besides the fact that I was getting back into Hisoutensoku and seeing that people were still creating for it made me very happy!

@@AliceCWillow Ah, I see. Thought there was some big event I missed out. Well, nonetheless good to know that it has helped you in more ways than one. I keep trying to make Soku videos as not many guides exist and there is MUCH to explain about this game. Its very complex, even when you know Fighting Games already and because of that, I gotta make guides with all the knowledge I gathered in these last 10 years, its the minimum I can do.

SAJAM MISHIMA!? Also, yeah, I try what I can to explain the mechanics of this game, its kind of a complex game all in all. Right now I'm working on a big "Pressure/Offense" Video but it's taking years to complete for a reason or another.

Thanks, I try my best with making things as understandable as possible, hopefully that comes through. Also, I presume its not as really a technical problem for you as much a "just playing it and/or understanding it" but we do have full packages that are pretty much just "plug & play" in case you want to play the game online. Nowadays you don't even need to be on Discord to play, the In-Game Hostlist allows you to play without being on Discord, though it's going to make a lot of things a lot harder. I would like to also note that despite its complexity, it is not a hard FG to get into, its the "understanding how to do well" that is the actual hard part, playing it is fairly "free form" all in all.

@@ShiGen ty so much for the reply and info. i'll def try and pick it up, maybe get into the game. ty again \o/

@@wettte8491 In case you want to try the game, you can try with this Pack: www.mediafire.com/file/rsbuhoksrr7a588/%5BTorii_Pack_1.1%5D.rar/file This one is a pack I've made recently and its pretty much just "open th123e.exe and play" but in case there is also a manual inside. It should be fairly straightforward unless you get unlucky and something doesn't work for some reason (Anti-viruses often delete some core files that you need for Soku for example)

@@ShiGen Thank you so much again. does the pack come with all spell cards and stuff? i remember having to grind those out before v_v

@@wettte8491 It does yeah. Once again, its as plug and play as it gets

Good to know that the video was actually of use. This entire topic makes a lot less sense when you aren't talking "Neutral", considering that Anti-Airs in this game aren't really a "flat solution that works everytime", rather they are more elements of playing good neutral, positioning and such.

Thank you for the comment and I'm glad my work is still helpful! I should probably make more of these, as it feels like these combo guides are the things that help the most the newer players.

@@ShiGen Wow you still respond and make these 6 years later lol. For sure please make more! As someone just now getting into this game and kinda sucks these help a lot. Your descriptions for each are really nice. There's not too many guides like this. Hopefully I can get better with these lol.

@@yumyimmy7650 I'm still active and post videos every once in awhile, I'm just a bit lazy and slow about it. Lately I'm working on a big video about Pressure which is why I haven't done any BnB video or anything "simpler". As for getting into the game through these, its mostly combos, the actual game information is a bit more sparse and a lot harder to understand compared to most Fighting Games, so, good luck with that and maybe check the Wiki/Discords for more indepth help.

@@ShiGen yeeeaah I was drawn to the game because of the complexity. I’m tryna my best to learn everything. Just don’t ask me off the top of my head what every weather effect does lmao. I’ll be waiting for the video about pressure when ever it comes out don’t worry about it!

@@yumyimmy7650 Good luck with learning the game and hopefully I manage the video before next year but I can't really promise that so... Anyway, thank you for passing by these parts and have a good one! 👍

Funny enough it's closer to Yang's SAIII "Sei-ei Enbu", as Youmu's clone also hits with delay

TL;DR: You only need one honestly, use the one you prefer No, you don't even need to know all of these combos. There are a lot of simple, more consistent combos, it's just good to know a bunch of variations to understand how all the attacks work when put into a Combo Context. The video is more or less just giving you pre-built pieces that you can mix and match with other things, in case you prefer to do your own thing, differently from the BnBs where it's useful to know all of them or at least understand how they all function.

Well, I'm not really the developer or creator of the fangame, besides, deviating from the lore isn't new when it comes to Touhou. Also, specifically for this TouhouJam the theme was "Life & Death" which is probably why they used Youmu and Yuyuko for this small fangame rather than Rumia, they worked better for the theme.

Oh, Ehilà! Grazie per seguirmi. Circa quasi un'annetto oramai o più direi che non gioco a Omega Striker huh...

Really? How so? Is it because it doesn't cost "anything" or do you mean something else?

​@@ShiGen Well "penny saved" create space and a 1 ticks time for a charge back or a dodge; Border shock give player a freeze frame that support both charge back, dodge, pressure. Bro, it's literally made for Soku unlimited (edited: it's not quite the same and like i said "it's quite similar" talking about mechanics)

@@kenhokai-u2f I see, thats fair enough.

Short answer: No, thats a fine answer too, really good infact as long as you know when to do it Slightly longer answer: You can check my BE6 video where I mention and showcase this exact thing. This is why I define this video as a sort of "extension" to the BE6 topic.

Much appreciated Mr. Tips and Tricks! You too, keep doing your best!

Yeah, I had a lot of fun playing it. Maybe there is a bit of bias as it was "Youmu-related" but nonetheless, it sucked me into the gameplay loop pretty much from frame 1 with the sick dash movement and simple but functional idea. Great work!

The game seems pretty cool, do you plan to do another one like this in the future?

@@prophetedubaroque5136 I'd love to, but I'm just one guy. I have ideas for a spiritual successor type game, but it's quite the steep hill to climb especially if I'm making assets myself.

@@prophetedubaroque5136 A lot of the times these games come from Itch.io, either from TouhouJams or because I just searched "Touhou" in the main page; if another similar one appears I will probably give it a shot. I also have a list of indie games to showcase, I've just been a bit busy with things to actually do it. I'm extremely bias towards Youmu though, usually that is what gets me to play something for sure, so if there was a similar game with Youmu, its probably assured I will eventually play it. In short: Possibly.

Thank you. Music selection is a big part of my videos, so, thats a big compliment.

Good to know its still helping players!

Its the minimum to have I think, as a Touhou fan

Did my best to be helpful or interesting with it, its the minimum I can do to add to the gameplay after all. Amazing work on the game by the by, ya all did great! Thank ye for passing by and watching the video, have a great day!

Glad to be of help. Can't wait for the complete version!

@@ShiGen Me neither. Was going through the early city and I'm looking forward to more content. Really cool concept. Reminds me a bit of Remnant, how it took dark souls influences and gunplay was still hard

Yeah, it's a great fangame. Can't wait for the final version!

@@ShiGen For real. Gonna give this a go. Thanks for the heads-up!

@@TerraFuu Hell yeah! Have fun!

Outside of doing the input shown? You have to have Super Bar for it, the right amount. Thats kind of it.

@@ShiGen but which button do I click to use the super I'm using a keyboard

@@stupidguych.8508 Check the input settings in the Option Menu, it should tell you which letter of your keyboard is assigned to what button. That should solve the problem, I think

Full-Dial is when you do a complete 5AAAA sequence close to the opponent. From far away your 5A becomes F5A so you gotta be close for it

Right about now I'm busy with another project, Soku specifically but also... I'm not really playing Rivals at this moment and I'm not interested in it anymore... I may make more in the future but being honest, its definitely not something I can promise sadly. Apologies.

It may be that your keyboard doesn't read double directional inputs then and if that is the case then you need another one. If instead you have difficulty doing it then you just gotta practice as there is no other way to do the Specials otherwise

@@ShiGen Well, in my input settings I have only UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT buttons and 3 buttons for attacks, plus Select and Exit buttons to settle. And that's all... I just have no other settings for keys. Maybe I simply didn't notice some kind of additional settings or something like that 🤔 I don't know how to check have my keyboard double direction inputs support or not. Sorry for my English 😅 I'm Russian and I can't make sentences property

@@celinekimi6493 the diagonal inputs are simply done by holding two directions at once. Down-Right would be down + right, down-left would be down + left, that is how you do these directions. Down, downright, right + button is how you would do a special. Does that help?

Well Hisoutensoku is a PC only game but if you are wondering if I use Keyboard or Gamepad then I use a DS4 Pad that is used exclusively to play Soku and nothing else (Soku kinda wears down DPads but the PS4 Pad or at least the one I use seems to have withstood the times). As for mastering the 623C, not sure if you are referring to the input in itself or the various combos but I'm going to presume its the Input in and on itself: there isn't much of a trick outside of practicing until you get comfortable with executing the actual input but personally what helped me solidify my execution of the DP input was understanding that DPs are virtually just a variation on the 236 input, with the difference being that you have a 6 in front of it, so like 6-236 would in most modern and not only games, still give you a DP input. If you really want it cleaner you simply cut the last 6. Not sure if this helps but that is how I figured it out... that and obviously execution practice in the Lab but that was a given I think. Thank you for enjoying the video!

Realistically you'll never find yourself in a situation where this mechanic ever interacts with the move in a way that matters and if you do, you are probably using the move incorrectly anyway, but really, it barely matters. It's just a neat element of the game and a fairly common fighting game one too as having blockstun also be invincible to grabs is a common practice in the genre.

This discussion happened already during the "making of" but at the end of the day the cheap nature of it sort of "solves itself" and is also "the point". Pretty much whenever it's being used the opposition is supposed to counter with their own B.S meaning that either both parties start to bleed out like crazy or have to backoff and a lot of the fun of the mod comes down to this intense set of insane options + having the gall to commit to low orbs. Remember that despite cards being strong, orbs are what keeps a player standing and playing and losing them is more expensive than spending cards. As an added bonus, B.S. way of using orbs is slightly different from BE as when you spend a B.S. you actually reset the orb recharge, so its also slightly more costly than BE in that sense

Give it some time. Someone is gonna do it

Yeah, the effectiveness isn't exactly at an all time high, even with the Border Shock. It's probably better to keep the orbs to do very very oppressive pressure or have better control of the neutral

It's all practice. The more you do the better you'll get, give it time.

@@ShiGen yeah tru

Thanks! Yeah, she is one of the coolest character honestly

Definitely a good idea to follow the creator on Twitter or Itch.io. The tutorial/Demo town feels really light in its usage of the actual fighting (it is a tutorial area) but I think there is definitely a great concept with the slow and limited ammunition idea, and the next area, despite being unfinished, looks very heavy on tight corner and "sudden encounters", which is a lot more engaging. Also the dev themselves definitely know the extension of some of the mechanics (Jumping being kinda jank/OoB/AirDashing which is used to hide certain items) so the final version or the next update should showcase the game's potential further and better. Thank you for passing by!