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Interesting video. I like your conclusions, although personally I think I'm so critical of the Traveler it borders on "hate". To simply put, I think the Traveler and Paimon are a case of a gacha game that wants to "have its cake and eat it too." Basically- Traveler TECHNICALLY does have a personality. Both Lumine and Aether have minor differences in facial and physical animations in cutscenes and fighting styles. They also have their own voice lines with Paimon in their character profiles and this is where they have their own opinions. This is most evident in the Dainsleif quests. As you mentioned, the Caribert quest was easily the best quest to showcase the Traveler because they're actually by themselves. It can be argued that this is where you can find the bulk of their "personality" and "character." HOWEVER- absolutely none of this comes through in the actual game and story. None of the Aether or Lumine's personal quirks and opinions influence anything, not even how they treat other characters. They will, by default, treat everyone the same and react to every event the same. And, as you have stated, their personalities/conversations will always be handled by Paimon, who will also treat both of them the same. This is where my point of "have its cake and eat it too" comes in. Genshin's dev team wants a MC who is their own character BUT at the same time they want them to be enough of a blank slate that the player can still project themselves onto them. That kind of MC requires VERY smart writing (eg. Persona and arguably other SMT games) which Genshin doesn't have (yet.) The result (coming from a Genshin player who doesn't play games to self-insert) is an MC who feels so wishy-washy and, frankly, doesn't feel like they deserve half of the praise/affection they get from everyone else. That last statement sounds harsh, I know. But from my personal experience playing the game, that's how I feel and every time I hear a character praise the Traveler I can't help but roll my eyes. I am fine with the Traveler being a "witness/observer" because that ties into the overall themes of "fate vs coincidence" in the game's story. But one of my main problems with Genshin's writing is that the game wants them to be that, but at the same wants them to be deserving of so many characters respect/care/affection. I'd love to dive deeper into why I feel this way, but this is already an essay. TL;DR- good video, I liked your points.

People who say “genshin is a children’s game” (tectone) are the kids who pretend like they’re adults ,by saying something is for kids and avoid it in order to look “cool” and think that they’re real “adults”. If you’re an adult shouldn’t you have the reading comprehension and patience to learn all about the games hidden lore and not rely on the game to feed up all of it to you with cool cutscenes just to keep up with your goldfish attention span.

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1:28 I like the prison arc. Yeah sometimes thing repeated a bit too much but it was ent insane. Overall the feeling of invertsagring and learning everything was actually so much fun and in the end it all made sense

Fontaine sucked so much aside from the AQ, yeah the fortress of meropede was ehhhh. Sumeru AQ is still the best, Fontaine is the best for Furina, Neuvillette, and Navia. Arlecchino should have died tbh, or they should have released her as they conceptualised her rather than creating a slop quest that completely invalidates lore from previous WQs and makes them feel completely inconsequential. (Gendou Ringo quest.) I actually think their idea of Lyney et al escaping Arlecchino was a lot better than the schizo slop we got. Dismissing Scaramouche's lines as "rumours" when he distrusts Pulcinella (I could understand Dottore since they have beef and never got along, but Arlecchino?) and Childe misjusging someone (he is so friendly it is very OOC even accounting for his closeness with Pulcinella) is also insane. I'm hoping Natlan will actually be fun. It seems very promising, at least. ❤ I hope we see Dottore in Natlan and he is playable soon. As far as Natlan, it is primarily inspired by Latin America, and it is white US people who are upset about it, not even LatAm (I am Mexican, not -American, but actually Mexican.) Pretty much no one in LatAm Genshin community has any issue with Natlan and we are very excited for it, same with Sumeru, the majority of complaints are from US natives or Europeans who have very stereotypical and even racist notions of what Latin America and the Middle East are. There are people who are light-skinned in Latin America, and in the Middle East/Persia/India. If gringos consumed content from our countries instead of their Hollyweirdised versions of our culture, they would realise that we also are diverse, and not everyone looks like what they believe us to look like. I have zero idea why they keep trying to inject black people into Natlan either, it has always been based on Aztec/Mayan cultures primarily, with some other stuff like Hawaiian/Maui culture added in, but I don't see anyone complaining that Natlan isn't just Hawaii. Even the artefact set we got in Fontaine about Natlan is very clearly NOT remotely African, that is the United States (let's be honest, this isn't a global issue, the majority of the global community also doesn't give a shxt, this is why their "boycotts" always fail, because it's an issue that only interests woke US people, the same kind who use the term "Latinx," and they just want drama, they don't want to listen -- if you try to explain it to them, they will just falsely assume and call you white [further showcasing their ignorance on LatAm, which is a melting pot of people from various backgrounds/cultures, including Middle Eastern, if anything, I would expect to see Sumeru influence in Natlan more than African, if we are going to base it on the real world, we have zero connection to black African culture, but we have a pretty strong connection to Arabic culture, and a lot of mixture with them, even one of Mexico's most famous billionaires is of ME descent, and my own heritage is partly Lebanese because there's a big ME community in Mexico. Black, on the other hand, not so much.... outside of places that border the West Indies and Brazil (due to Portuguese colonialism), you're not going to find black people, they are so rare that I thought as a child that they only lived in Africa until I moved to the US and obviously learned otherwise, but the point of that is to highlight how rare it is to see a black person in most of LatAM, particularly Mexico/Central America, which is where Natlan gets most of its influence from, so why should there be black people there? It is a silly expectation, and always was. Similarly, some person took some fandom fanart of the goddess Mavuika is based off [who is polynesian btw] and tried to claim SHE should be black, when the goddess is Polynesian and the people there are NOT blaack even remotely, they have the same skin tone as Mavuika does lmao. And yeah, Mavuika isn't white, that much is obvious when you compare her to Diluc or even Himeko from HSR/HI3, they DID make her darker and she looks brown, same with Xilonen (looks very Latina), and others. The only one I was shocked to learn was supposed to be Mexican is Chasca, to me she doesn't look Latina at all, but we don't know her story, could be a case like Thoma where she has mixed heritage, wouldn't shock me if she was mixed and somehow related to Rosaria lmao, considering they have similar hair colour. But Chasca aside, everyone else definitely looks the part to anyone who actually is or knows about LatAM, not just Hollywood films that depict derelict border towns where everyone's a narco and the hue is eternally set to a sickly yellow for some reason. If the wokes wanted to complain about bad representation, they should complain about that insteaed, not a game that actually brings out the positive and cool sides of our countries/cultures and has amazing characters that everyone is hyped for. TBH, the Arlecchino story quest controversy would have been a better thing to cover than the Natlan nontroversy, since the bad decisions made re: her story completely ruined/otherwise compromised key parts of the lore and game (previous WQs, Dottore to some extent since it was literally NEVER mentioned even by Freminet that he had any involvement with the HoTH, and it was just quickly put in there as a lazy way to make Arlecchino look better at his expense, which I don't appreciate [though at least he can get out of it easily because it was pretty much certainly a Segment who worked with Crucabena, not Zandik or even Omega, and we know they have distinct personalities, so whatever Segment it was, he is already dead, even if Arlecchino wishes to hold Zandik responsible for what his Segments do, it would be ridiculous IMO, since they are independent individuals, even if they function under a hive mind in terms of moniker, that would be like holding Arlecchino responsible for what Crucabena did because she was also called Arlecchino once. A preposterous premise.] But most of all, it tarnishes the Tsaritsa, as we don't even know Crucabena's motivations for becoming a Harbinger, or why she was given the task of raising orphans when she was actually just making her fight for her own amusement. She was literally just villainous for the sake of being villainous, and there isn't enough about her otherwise to make her anything but a scapegoat where all the past negative lore about Arlecchino could be mounted on and sacrificed, I think that's pretty bad writing. Likewise with Clervie, just one-dimensional, cheap emotional manipulation, to say nothing of the fact they even introduce Arlecchino in the Fontaine AQ livestream as "the Harbinger FROM Fontaine." And given we didn't have Perinheri drop until the patch preceding 4.6, it's obvious this was not because it's a huge lore bomb [it really isn't, and we've had insane lore drops from places like Delphi which are relevant to date, Signora's story since the beginning, possibly Capitano's as well, some of Dottore's backstory though a lot of his story is also under wraps rn, at least we have SOMETHING, though, and there are a bunch of books we've had since day 1 that are extremely relevant to the plot, so there is no reason to hold back Perinheri], but because they didn't know what direction to take Arlecchino in until then.

Im convinced the genshin community are a bunch of unhinged crybabies

The amount needed vs the amount you earn is crazy, i don😢have that kind of time. Been playing for few months and all that time ive earned 2 characters that wasn’t earned through story

Hoyo is "too big to fail". They aren't changing anything sadly. I hope I'm wrong though.

Half of the Contrevorsies were dump as fuck and lots of people just choose to stay arrogant. Poeple still conplain about not there being Qol, when in Fontaine we 90% of Qol we all wanted(no artifact loadouts was something a minority wanted). Literally its just a minority of players thinking its the majority.

Very hard year, man. Even though Fontaine was the peak of the story of the game so far, and also production and everything, after 4.3 was just lots of L because of players complaining every update. And now Natlan announces as well...

4.0 series wasn't that bad. All i know is before players complained...

Uh, I really thought 3.X had more things in complains, a little surprising

Let's not forget about absolute tragedy that is expansion of Northern Sumeru. I was excited to see more rainforest and what we've got? Nothing. They just lifted Paimon barrier from placeholders and didn't add anything in those empty areas. I will never forgive Hoyo for this unless they patch it up.

... im sorry genshin is for kids? a gacha game that tempts you to use money? your joking right? the story telling is fine, a bit slow especially with dain's story quests but its still understandable because I'm pretty damn sure there ain't no kids playing this game. and if there are kids playing, they need to get off and get back to their studies.

Just curious, do you think the resin increase is 'fear of Wuthering Waves' or to 'incentivize playing ZZZ'. No wrong answers, just want to hear your opinion

I hate it how the twins moment feels like theres no development No, actually I would appreciate it hoyo make traveler understanding their sibling because at this point I just feel like 'ok, traveler what are you gonna do if you actually found your sister, are you going to help, support her, or fight her'

agree with your first point, that also my biggest problem with genshin, the main story has no main direction, main character just walking aimlessly between nations that has no important impact to the main plot. Those nations story are just bunch of sidequests but have voice actor and bunch gacha characters, they serve no purpose to mc goal, they just drop some bit of the world lore after finish each nation. some will say but mc goal is not find his sister anymore, just replay we will be reunited quest, but imo that quest not justify mc journey to 7 nations. In that quest mc sister told him just go travel 7 nations to understand true nature of teyvat or something like that without any explanation and mc is like: "oh oke, i desperate want to find you but i gonna do what you asked and you go your way, i go mine after we accidentally met each other lol." But after that in each nations the first thing mc care and asked always where is his sister, who is the godness that seperate them. He never show any actual care to explore the secret of teyvat, his sister is always his first priority, but 4 nations by far has no abyss order involved, unknown god still asleep even after hydro throne destroyed, they are just nations own problem, why waste time to write those archon quest and labeled them as main quest if they are not push the story forward. Not to mention between each "explore teyvat quest" we again meet dain and with him we follow mc sister trace and uncover abyss order plan, these dain quests made nation archon quest even more irrelevance and so contradict with "uncover the truth of teyvat" goal. Imo dain quests are only where the main story actual happen, but some how we still have mc POV in those nation archon quest at the same timeline with dain quest make me think mc is some pepega dude who doesn't even know what his actual goal is. Genshin story remind me of witcher 3 story, that also the story of finding mc daughter in big open world, but in witcher 3 each regions arcs are actual direct involved in finding daughter plot, and they help the mc goal progess, uncover truth of the world and what is the sceret behind always the result of that journey, whereas in genshin nation quest more like for hyv selling more character, so in result we have 5 years with tons of archon quests but the main story no where near its first major plot point, just the same thing happen again and again. Although recent nation quests is better in writting but like i said they have so little impact to main story. Hope things change in natlan, based on recent story leaks its seem they plan to have big change compare to previous nations.

I agree with a lot of your points (except about Xiao), but I think this is Genshin problem for trying to treat all the playable characters like main characters and Traveler is only an observer of their story I agree very much that the story Traveler witness should give more clearer hints why it is relevant to his journey, because IT IS relevant but Genshin always hide lore, making the importance of an event questionable, only truly observant people and who read all Genshin hidden lore in quest and book can understand the meaning behind it Like Mondstadt story actually reveals a bit about archon and dragons and catalysm, Zhongli story highlights bits about archon war, Inazuma is about what vision is actually is and what effect it has to a person, but all of that are nor clear because of bad storytelling and lore hiding starting Sumeru is start to get more clearer but not clear enough, Sumeru is about Teyvat Irminsul world system, Fontaine is also more about Teyvat system, Celestia, primordial water, outlander Then story quest and hangout quest are just their way to sell characters, this is a gacha game after all, waifu husbando fanservice, having fun with friends/character you like, it is made to show Traveler more about who is that character and if possible add some fanservice so they will pull for them

Love your content

We have less cutscene but on the other side I think the visual qualities of the cutscene improved. True that there's too much infodump and confusing dialogues, and things weirdly too straightforward. Genshin doesn't know what show don't tell mean. (As a French it's a bit our fault because we're known for talking too much and Fontaine really, really use that.) I have the feeling most of the story is supposed to unravel past snow country I can't type the name. Like once we reach it we got more substantial content. But it take its time. And that makes everything feels weird and slow-paced. I think it's also what's holding character from developing, it's probably all in pause for The Moment. The characters from the later nations seems more developed in general as helll. Mondstadt is being held back as hell. (We're all waiting its expansion and Venti second quest and Varka to come back with the milk someday.) I think a lot of characters could have interesting interactions but never have them and that ties to a lot of your points, like the lack of purpose or consequences in the quests. (I want to see Wanderer reveal the truth to Kazuha while provoking him to start a fight. Stuff like that. Come on.) We are told about some ties between a few characters or we can see parallels between them but they are never developed. Or will maybe be someday in a temporary event. Last thing I noticed character wise is that Traveler's mood followed the community's one. In Mondstadt and Liyue she was sort of a kind blank state helping people while looking for her brother. Then people start complaining about the lack of information about her brother, and from then Traveler clammed up and got really upset and refused to help people for free and stuff. Then after Inazuma I think a wave of new people came into the game and Traveler sort of reverted to their old self but only half. Traveler and Paimon in general aren't really consistent and that fits with the time bubble problem and lack of development. I disagree with the character's death because death doesn't necessarily means more depth into things. In the current state of things killing any characters would seem pretty plain. Like Signora's death was in some way (and I wanted her dead for personal reasons, but. Still) And that's already a lot

ill admit that i'm still doing fontaine's quest rn so i may have a bit of a misconception but i feel like a lot of the quests revolve around npcs. i just got into star rail and i already enjoy the storytelling a lot more because there's virtually no npcs in those quests (atleast not majorly) and the characters actually have some development, whereas in genshin it feels like we're just being dragged along to do random things and no one really changes. the lack of development definitely adds to the feeling of there being no consequences too, since it doesn't make sense that these characters go through such life changing events but don't actually change lmao. i also think paimon is one of the biggest issues with genshin quests. she was helpful in the beginning of the game when the traveller didn't know anything but now that we have experience with the world she just retells everything the characters said as if we don't have brains to comprehend it. i genuinely think the story would be so much better simply by removing her (or just having her shut up sometimes). overall there's a lot of good ideas in the genshin story but the execution is just bad. it's a shame because i do like this game a lot and have been playing since 1.2, and i hate to see it fall short when it has the potential to be great. i'm glad someone mentioned this stuff cause the storytelling is honestly one of my biggest issues with genshin

I agreed with all of your points, I've been feeling like the Genshin writing is getting worse. My biggest pet peeve is Paimon narrating what you can clearly see on the screen, or characters listing off their character traits, instead of the quests taking their time to show us the character's traits. It really feels at some points like the dialogue is treating the player as if they are dumb and can't see what's in front of them. It's something that's bothered me for a long time and I don't see anyone else talking about it. Your video totally summarizes the current state of Genshin's writing, the low stakes and aimless wandering from place to place with a goal that is constantly forgotten about and pushed to the side is the writing in a nutshell. I especially liked when you touched on the characters not getting any development and being stuck in a time capsule, it's like one of those TV shows that goes out of their way to maintain the status quo without any real changes to the world. I think a lot of these story flaws are tied to the gacha system and the monetization of the game, which is really sad because it works exceptionally well. Great video, well put, liked all of your points. By the way, no offense, your accent is quite thick and I had to rewind a few bits to understand your words, maybe some subtitles at the bottom would help? Seriously loved the video, I'm surprised it doesn't have more views, it's very well thought out. :)

I love Genshins story but after taking a break to read Umineko and returning to Genshin I just can't help but feel disappointed. I know the story can be better, and I really want it to, but it just seems like the most interesting stuff is the lore and the actual presentation is just, well, kinda shallow. In my opinion, Genshin needs a more cohesive theme. I know that the overall theme is probably revolves around dreams (I mean come on visions, it's pretty obvious) but it just feels like that doesn't come through in the quests. They also need to take more risks and stop trying to play safe all the time. And like, sorry to repeat what everyone says but, I feel like Paimon could talk a little bit less. I'm not a Paimon hater but I have to say she makes the pacing drag soooooooo much. Also they need to do something about their villains. I barely care about the abyss order outside of our sibling and the Fatui could be so much more. Also what's going on with Celestia? At this point we're more than halfway through the story and we still don't have an idea of what we are trying to do besides travel to each nation and solve their issues. We need a more focused goal than find our sibling. Also maybe some character growth for the traveler and paimon. IDK the reason I bothered to waste my time to write this paragraph was because I care about the story and I want to see it become better. At this point though, I'm don't have the time to spend on something that seems like it only ends up disappointing me. (Plus I just read Umineko and now I'm spoiled).

Genshin world quests: lets sacrifice kids

I think it's much more harder to write a good story without killing off characters. A lot of stories in normal books these days (not even anime) have the killing off of characters to get you emotionally invested - heck even in HSR tried that with Tingyun and Firefly. Imo, it's a very cheap trick to make you feel emotional about them, but it should only be used well if you're extremely attached to the chars. Not a lot of people care for Xiao besides the Xiao fans, so his death would be a waste even if they did implement it. Plus, the whole purpose of his character is to live a good life in place of his dead fellow yakshas - that's literally his banner title: Invitation to Mundane Life. The whole chasm story was basically "you need to get over it about sacrificing yourself and learn to be optimistic and live a good life" instead of being emo all the time - that was his character development. So if it's not Xiao, then what would be an actual character's death that would resonate emotionally and very strongly with the audience? Easy. Klee. If Klee dies (since you spent so many good memories with her and she had a lot of screentime especially summer events, and that she's a cute kid) THEN that would work on an emotional level - but you and I know that would never happen. The purpose of the story isn't lost with exploring every nation. It was CORRECTED in the "We Will Be Reunited" quest when the sibling told the traveler to finish his journey to see for himself about the true nature of this world. So it gives you a purpose to be exploring not just the nation's cities, but going to Dragonspine, Enkanomiya, Tsurumi Island, etc. It gives you REASON to go explore every nook and cranny of the world because that's your new purpose. However, it has flaws, and let me present you an actual example where it actually detracted from the story. It was during the Fontaine archon quests when we were sent to the Foretress of Meropide to find clues about Childe. We had no stakes to go to jail to save Childe, but the game makes it like we are friends with Childe when it insinuated this whole time we are more like acquaintances. We risking our health and lives for Childe is out of character because THAT is LOST PURPOSE. It (1) doesn't bring us to discovering the nature of this world, and (2) doesn't help us find our sister. It's not like the reward was talking with Furina since the traveler wanted to talk to each archon because Neuv didn't offer that as a reward. Neuv offered us compensation "highest according to law", but most people think it's just mora. I thought it was extremely out of character for the traveler to go into the foretress of meropide to help in a political struggle since he wasn't offered anything that aligned to their purpose.

After reading "The lord of the rings" written by Tolkien I realized how much the movie trilogy put action scenes at the centre of the storytelling, while in the book most action happens but is not the focus of the story. The story of "The lord of the rings" shows every single detail about the setting of Arda, even those that are not relevant to the story, especially those that are not relevant to the story. Starting from this I would say that Genshin impact story have many things in common with it. When a character starts to talk about his everyday life people most of the times don't care about it, but that is what makes the difference. If a character only appear because the story requires him to be there, it's not a character, it's a plot device. Focusing on the everyday aspect of a character creates a type of depht that makes a character feel "alive". They are people, they have a life, a job, some hobbies, some skills and some flaws. I dislike when a character is part of the story but doesn't have anything outside of being strong in combat, or being so focused on his objective that you don't even know where he sleeps during the night. I prefer characters that are part of the world instead of character that are there only to fulfill their main objective (which is, for some reasons, always related to the main plot). The reason why many people don't like this type of storytelling is because they are used to stories with only action and character development that happen because of a major flaw in the character itself. But when the story uses a realistic approach to the storytelling, people don't like it, because fantasy should be different from reality and the main characters should always appear only when the plot needs them, but that is a mistake. That's also one of the reasons why i like Genshin impact story more than many other stories (like Penacony), it's different from the cliches that is the type of storytelling the audience is used to read and watch and play.

Good to see someone addressing the issues rather than showing character builds

I'm not sure killing off characters like Xiao and Freminet are exactly great. It may be okay for the development for others, but it would be a unexpected and unnecessary end to their own stories and possible future development. Xiao was a character who was willing to sacrifice himself but Zhongli saving him showed that it didn't need to happen and he could continue living. etc.

The lore in the game is interesting, and I mean Very interesting. However the storytelling really is trash. I don't pay any attention to the world quests because they aren't voiced, the story quests revolve around NPCs in need of help from the character and the archon quests feel very slow.

I love how alhaitham's team got SUPER buffed(alhaitham+kuki+nahida+furina). I pulled for him on his release and his hyperbloom team with yelan was already quite OP and now he's more OP and he can run MH set for even more damage. Hoping the pyro archon buffs tartaglia as well. Love him sm

I hate that we only get one Dainsleif quest a year. They are so far apart from one another that by the time the next Dain quest comes around I'll have already forgotten what happened in the last one.

I made a mistake with the music and unfortunatelly I deleted all recording for the video, so i wont be able to reupload it. However i will make sure that next videos will not have the same mistake. Once again, sorry.

There was not 1.8 pookie, 1.6 was the last point from 2.0

Nice video ❤ But music is just too loud I missed your words 😔

the music is a bit loud, especially around the fontaine part. overall, great video.

man this video was gonna be a banger but i literally cannot hear you because of the music. re upload pls i will be waiting with notifs

hard to hear you because the music is so loud

bruhhhhhhhhhhh

Video made me happy. You doing what you love. Keep improving the content is pretty good so far. I will see how far you get im sure you got this dont give up

Nice video i don't have any major gripes with anything you said and i would agree most units fall off eventually but characters like nilou that are the only major thing for an extremely good niche won't be going anywhere

I would like to see more characters there, or at least some regular rotations. I was about thinking to level up my Qiqi, but level 90 is very resource demanding, so why should I do it, when I don't use her at all? To have some nice sparkles behind her which I even will not enjoy when I don't use her 😂

Sounds boring to me. The effect is minor. Not sure why they choose to just drip feed these things either. I would have much preferred skins, but at this rate, how will they even manage to make skins for every character within 3 years time?

I was talking about it rotating, but it wasn't exactly true as we dont know it yet, so might have just these 5 characters and more will be added later on. But its not 100% confirmed how it will be in the future.

People complain in Genshin so much it’s endgame so you suppose to have an advanced account too do it

I dont really care about any pf those i only care earning primogems

Aktually it helped to clear abess

In truth due to how now both IT and SA are scheduled IT is basically a the 2nd phase of spiral abyss. So it is kinda mandatory now sadly if we won’t to stay ahead in the pulling games. Let’s just hope they listen to feedback an try to improve it.

its infurating how genshin is trying push us to pull, im saving my primos

very common art style for Chinese games. Looks like a mobile game I worked on called Ark Legends. Think it got scrapped, but art is the same

omg i didnt know they were the creators of Chimeraland. i was so sad hearing that game shutting down. one of the best games ever created. most complete game. true exploring. complete game and experience