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Michelle I think is a a good comp to Paula before Paula started winning

Honestly I would have prefer Emanuel over Josh on era 4 or even Fessy.

I'm fan #61!!!

Ryan fell off the quad multiple times and Bananas says there was no danger of him losing at any point.

You guys need to listen to the Bananas podcast before you recap - he spills a lot of tea that you guys need.

I know it could be another girl, but if it’s Olivia vs Michelle or Nia, it would shock me if Olivia didn’t have it.

Personally, I like when all three of you are here. Each of you give a unique take on the episode and balance each other out. You're like Huey, Dewey, Louie, or Alvin, Simon, Theodore or some other group of 3. When one isn't there, it feels off.

Dear Pam, your obsession for Tori is kinda getting weird now. You see no fault in her at all but will hate on other people like Jenny and others for now reason. So, let me give you some facts because you are too much in your feelings. You know that Jenna won a final before tori right! She also didn't win with a partner and won on her own and came first but the refilmed the ending to make it seem like it was her and johnny that both crossed together. She should have been a solo winner but we all know production is... well you know. Secondly, tori only won because her alliance allowed her to get to the final and devin actually carried her not her carrying him. She was a mess that season and devin helped her so much. They were a great partnership but don't act like saint and the greatest. Yes, she should have won with CT but dumb ass Kaycee got a lay up win. Facts, tori plays like she is nice and innocent but she comes off fake and actually a "woe is me" type of person. Here and annessa are nasty human beings together and talk shit about people behind their backs or on podcast and then apologize saying "they didn't mean it in that way". She made fun of Amber B mental health and said she didn't believe she had her condition and other people don't believe it either on a podcast but then advocates for her mental health and crying on social media about it. One, I don't believe a word she says and two she is a hypocrite. She also uses people like josh and others for her game and calls them friends when really she is a manipulator and fake. She cheated on her boyfriend derek K and came off unapologetic and didn't care. Then sleeps with her cast member knowing jordan would hate that its fessy of all people, hooks up with multiple guys on camera the next season and then gets mad at jordan for having a hook up with Nury's. Like, tori shut the hell up you hypocrite. She always uses her tears and gets mad when someone does something to her and always plays off her wrong doing. Like when her and cory told josh to get into that stupid pizzadate thing and also sent his "FRIEND" home. Again, tory has become a nasty human being. I liked her on Are You the One and her first season on the challenge, after that she has been horrible to watch. Now, i don't really care if she cheats or her personal life I am just giving examples. You can like whoever you want but you're blinded by your love for her and don't see that gross things she has done on the show. I love a good female competitor and would rather have her than Kaycee, Annessa, Katie, Michelle etc etc but Tori needs a break. I don't really agree with Dan very often but he is right, you're not giving Lauryl enough credit. Look who tori lost to in eliminations Joss and Slyvia, Annesa, Kam and Jenna. She beat amanda in a physical elimination, Kaycee in a weird 50/50 elmination, Marie (Laughable), beat jenny but jenny never tackled a person before and came back the next season to beat D in the same elimination after training for it, Georgia which was legit. She has done 7 seasons and usually is carried by her alliance. Jenny has done 2 and won her second season alone, so what does that say in the end. I am sorry, Lauryl would crush tori in an elmination unless it was a puzzle or something stupid. I could see Cara and Tori being even now but Cara is better in my opinion. Emily was smash tori unless production gives them some rig elmination like we saw this season. Tori is overrated but again I would rather see her than Kaycee anyday, She is just not a good person in my opinion. That amber B stuff was disgusting and uncalled for. Tori needs help and needs to take a look in the mirror at her own life. I do not like her at all. Dan, stop complaining about everything, this is not the old challenge. As much as we all want it back things challenge and you need to accept that, at this point it is an illness you have to complain about the same things every single week for years. hahah We need Jenna back, she is the saving grace to the aftershow discussion to keep you two in check, jesus!

I miss Jenna, we usually agree on things lol not like Dan and Pam

Michelle's Survivor win was controversial. I almost didn't finish watching the final tribal that season because it was undeniable that a different player deserved to win, but the cast was petty and prioritized Michelle who floated to the end over strategic game play. Love the accidental TGIF reference when Dan called them Teen Angels. That final elimination felt like two elderly men on rascals chasing each other through aisles at the grocery store. There is nothing less punk rock than calling yourself punk rock - Ew, David. Pam's resting smile just tells me that she loves The Challenge and doing this show, and I love her for it.

They switched the format to a man and women going home back n fourth each week so the episodes so the season won’t be so short…. I thought that was obvious guys lol

I miss the relationship part as well. We have not seen Olivia and Theo but on the socials apparently they started ❤

I'm sorry but I must say that Pam is absolutely wrong about Jenny and Laurel. Jenny? Are we talking about the same Jenny that smoked everyone in the final of Total Madness? Winning over Bananas and all other men and women...? Yeah she has her problems with endurance, but endurance is only 1 of more assets to this game (strength, swimming, mental etc.) This is her 3rd season only and so far she has showed she's a really really strong competitor, plus she's 38!!! Speaking of age Cara is 38 as well and Laurel is 39, I think it's a bit different comparing them to let's say Tori who's 31. Some stuff I could easily do in my teens and early 20s are very different when almost hitting 30. And how is Laurel not at least equal to Cara? Yeah she may be a bitch and her behaviour is sometimes disgusting, but she's always been great in this game. She's been to 5 finals and won 2, 10 elimination wins is nothing? She holds the record for the most consecutive elimination wins, with nine. Like guys be for real pls Speaking of this season in particular I'd say Cara, Laurel, Tori, Rachel and Jenny as well can be all put into the same category of strong women in the Challenge. And yes. Kaycee is not there.

Using the term ,Popcorn muscles, on Jenny is crazy 😮 Shows me that people dont know what this term even is or what is used for. Is for people who have big muscles that are not working . Jenny is strong and always show that, she is using her muscles good. Endurance is whole another thing, it is heart and lungs mostly. Just stop trowing that term out for everybody. 😂

This Jenny hate gotta stop ✋🏽. Jenny has been vaping a lot and that has affected her endurance but let’s not forget that when Jenny won her season she was the first person overall to finish. She beat bananas , Kyle , Cory , fessy , and Kaycee all up that mountain .

LOL I'm in New Zealand so I won't be joining the fun but sounds like you'll have a great time.

I was rooting for Ryan too, more because I'm a Tori fan than anything else :)

I've become tired of Tori and Johnny the last few seasons, but now that it's Tori vs. Johnny, I'm excited!

Tori and Jordan for the win!!

Dan you are kind of being a d... about Ryan and Derrick. Just because they are nice? Do they have to be assholes like Bananas to be interesting for you?

Jenny vapes so that means she doesn't have the lung power so gases out early.

GREAT FUCKING PICK WITH THE MIZ!

Rachel shouldn't have been picked last week because she won the last challenge and production didn't change the rules. They intentionally changed the rules this week because it makes more story between Tori and Bananas

NINE finals and SEVEN wins? Obviously I knew he had seven wins but didn't even realize how high his winning percentage is. Wow.

Nobody wants to see nia and kyland. GTFO of here with that.

Dan says challenge isn't a sport and wanna see interpersonal relationships then ten minutes later on a rant why Michele comes on for social game and good time and only want players trained to compete. Which one is it my guy?

I’d go on the cruise if you guys are going ‼️‼️

Tori didn’t go in “again and again” on WOTW2 - she went in twice. Against Jenny and Georgia. It’s funny how the producer’s chosen narrative still manages to influence opinion four years later haha. No shade, it’s what a lot of people think, but it’s just not true. And Cara has outplayed Tori head to head in the two finals they’ve competed against each other. So I still have Cara ahead of Tori in all time rankings. Pretty easily, tbh. As far as how good they are currently, I do think Tori is a better competitor right now. I think Cara is still a bit rusty after her break. Laurel sucks.

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Ryan said that Jenny does not really play the game. She was nice to everyone and not building social ties to help her in the game.

Dan i super romantic haha that’s dope. Making fellas have to step their game up.

Thank you both for your recap. I love to hear your perspectives on the show and things outside the show love the Mario Kart reference Dan you used!

Ladies of Leisure = The Layup Team = Nia, Michele, Olivia.

Dan what is happening to your memory? Early dementia? Too much heat? Michele beat Cara in Block Head: Players must transfer nine large cubic puzzle pieces from the boundary of the Arena to their respective platform in the center and use the pieces to solve a puzzle.

Michele is a social & strategic player. She can swim, can do puzzles, is a good team player. Michele needs to work on her endurance. I do think she can win based on those skills.

Nia has consistently come in last or close to last in every daily. This is on par with her performance in All Stars 4. Nia is not a threat in the game.

Just to set the scene, Season 40 set in Ho Chi Mihn City, the average temperature is 30 C or 86 F and very humid. If you are not acclimated to the heat and humidity you are going to have a hard time performing in that heat. Ryan did state in his MTV Challenge podcast that the cast stood around about an hour in the sun before the daily started and the heat was a big factor to people not paying attention to where their stations were, therefore balls delivered to the wrong tubes, and there were 30 balls need to fill those tubes and that meant the players had to go out into the field15 times to collect balls and return them to their stations and put them into the collection tubes.

You’re right about Josh. I watched his season of Big Brother, such a child!!

This may sound harsh and i apologize in advance. Ryan solving that puzzle backwards 2x confirmed to me he has to be on dru….. nevermind i won’t even say it but he sucks. Pam i can’t believe you would want to see more of him 😂

First time I have liked Tori. Liked that she put Bananas into elimination however she needed to have picked Theo, Kyland, or Cory as the other targets to have a chance of eliminating Bananas. There were rumors floating around that Bananas was ready to go home.

Tori’s relationship with production is getting more ridiculous each season. THEY GO THROUGH HELL AND HIGHWATER TO SAVE GER GAME. She was able to choose Rachel after she wins that week and. I one is allowed to ick her. She suckkks and this Devin cult ish is annoying.

During his interview on the MTV Official Challenge Podcast Ryan stated that Bananas was ready to go home and said that in the house. Ryan said that Bananas is not happy NOT running the show, not in control. However going to an individual format and the feud with Tori falls in line with how Bananas likes to operate in the Challenge House. Ryan also stated that he started his sobriety journey about when COVID happened. He quit drinking, quit doing drugs, quit smoking. That is a lot of addictions. He also said he lost a lot of weight, has a diabetes diagnosis, and did a lot of running. To be honest he looks fragile. He is only 3 years into his sobriety.

Yes, Dan they said one man and one woman will win a their share of a million dollars, didn't you watch. Also TJ said "their share", remember Karma Points may end up affecting how much money a winner gets.

Production is filming the reunion in Antwerp, Belgium this week.

Dan,Pamela and Jenna did you get invited for the Reunion

Dan and Pam, Did you saw the challenge cast mates go to Amerstadam Netherlands for the Reunion. Dan is happy that Amanda is on the Reunion.

it's 2024 why does this sound like AM radio?