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Nice guide. I like the breakdown plus the footage back to back.

They gonna continue to use MK. Because the tier is basically done brother.

This seems like a good strat a great one if possible imo would be ranged/melee split into two groups just to be a little simpler and quicker to position for. I could see people getting weird with which side is for the heal which is for the ranged, flipping it around, y'know PF stuff.

Good guide! I've been helping a lot of people in PFs these last weeks on the fight, and have found that having a tank instead of the healer can help quite a lot. Especially a warrior or paladin as they can somewhat help with healing the whole group when needed, especially if they know what they're doing (or are an helper as I usually am). Having a tank also allows for the boss positioning and rotation to be fixed and help with melees, especially for Act 1 uptime. It also helps with preventing any deaths to tank busters, as they can invuln Elegant Evisceration in P1, help with secondary mit on a single designated player to take Near/Far with them (a range/caster going in or out), and mitigate Demigod Double to take it alone. I'm also not certain about this but they could potentially survive Act 2 using invuln, and if they do and survive alone, they can easily do 8%+ damage to the boss until they get wiped by Act 4 resolution. You can ignore most of Act 3 if alone, mitigate the TBs afterwards, and just hit the boss during Act 4 shenanigans.

hardest mech of the tier

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is mario kart bad or are ffxiv players unable to dodge

why is it 10 mins for a strat wtf

if people would just learn to chill out and bait multiple lines before moving literally any strat would be better. did nobody do criterion???

sick! could you make one for P8s?

Thanks I finally have a guide I can point people to as I was doing this in pf the other day and pointing people to that one clear vid I felt was unhelpful. Edit: typo

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Thank you, I was looking for it right now lol :'3 ❤

I was in a pf wiating for people to join and they wanted to do Mario cart, i was trying to explain to them how it was a bad strat and there are other, better eays to handle it and theybkicked me from the party. People are way too attached to week one strats.

bro am I having a stroke why is your character so SLIPPERY? Homie is SLIDING through mechanics.

I really feel for the tanks who theoretically have 360 bee threat versus the other 3 groups with the benefit of a wall behind them. You end up relying on your MT for Mario Kart, but you still move along the wall which helps. It's a good idea, but I have a hard time pitching this to the static. I still think Alarm Pheromones is just an MT mechanic to make things tolerable for the other 7 and trying to force order into the chaos is overcomplicating it.

In my experience, the way I usually get hit in this mechanic is when I'm targeted by a bee on the other side of the arena. Because the marker only goes halfway across, if you're fully across the arena from the bee targeting you, the visual cue is much more subtle and hard to see. This strat seems to be the worst of the three for how often this will happen. Yolo center will never have it happen because nobody is out at the edge, and in mario kart you aren't standing still long enough for a far bait to still be far by the time it actually goes off. That said, I'm still interested to try this and if I see any reclear PFs with it next Tuesday I'll hop in.

what a bad mechanic lol. who could have guessed the most contentious mechanic in M2S would be straight out of Normal

Man i aint taking strat "tips" from the guy who made the Criterion guides with misinformation bruh

I agree, I showed it to my team, and they complained after it failed 2 times. They're comfortable running around like headless chickens ☹ it pains me as a melee dps, but it is what it is, thanks for the guide.

Kobe. You were right. M4S is all about EE2 prog lol and a bit of sunrise sabbath prog ^^

You really stretched this to 10 mins

Here's my analysis of pros and cons between this and mario kart: Triangle/uptime strat: pros: smaller number of lines that affect other roles (as compared to clock spread / ffa), 3/4 roles are out on the wall allowing better visibility and smaller movement on average, should be almost always full uptime for all roles cons: the difficulty distribution is skewed against melees, especially tanks - they'll have harder time dodging and staying aware of all the lines that go through the middle. It also asks for higher individual skill on average as you will need to do lots of small dodges. Mario kart strat: pros: easy to understand the general movement, decent chance of success on average, does not require individual skill often cons: most amount of movement required, heavily dependent on MT piloting skill, if people are not stacked together for 1st bait or split on cw/ccw for 1st movement it can cause chain reaction of bad baits. Also, it's not very likely, but certain bait patterns can make it very difficult and will probably result in wipes I think mario kart is still the better strat on average for pf simply because it requires less individual solve. But if you have competent players who can use eyes, I think triangle/uptime strat is better

they should call this strat Kobees in PF /hj

Why do you keep the melees north and tanks at the center?

Just use your eyes. Don't get hit. If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a fictional bee child shoot its ass spike at you.

Have you noticed any order that bees spawn? I say that because Mouser appears random too, but it's really just two patterns. Or, could the boss's order of attacks before this point indicate which bee spawn pattern? I think there are 16 combinations of mechanics possible preceding this - 4 times where the boss chooses one or the other type of attack. There are optimum bait spots depending on the spawn pattern, so if you can predict the spawn pattern, you can trivialise this mechanic. What do you think?

I hope this is the bee all and end all of this for good

I see, so the reason you keep the tanks split compared to the shown JP concept is that it reduces the numbers of bees guaranteed to be baited by each subgroup. The JP one would have an 8/4/4 split where this has 4/4/4/4.

thank you so much!

So, following the hector guide i was so confused as to why healer 2 who is at east has to run presumably (cuz he really didnt explain it) from 3 to 2 to get there in time for the lariat after fuse or foe. Having DPS rotate to partners for the quadruples is such an EASY fix that means healer 2 only has to go from 3 to B and the greedy melee can still take the south clock spots. Now to see if PF will be willing to do this xD. It just makes so much more sense and saves the healer from having to run a stupid distance.... in prog my east healer kept screwing up because of that and I cant even fault them when they have to traverse half the arena without any gap closers because expedient is mit!

i've cleared a few times now with clean sunrise but just re: uptime sunrise: i've seen some povs where people will stand mid marker on the side closest to the tower rather than perpendicular like in this video (eg for NS towers, standing on the N/S marker side instead of E/W) are these compatible at all? if anything baiting closer to towers seems like it would give larger room for error unless im mistaken

Very solid guide! I wanted to comment on a couple things that are important for people to be aware of. 1. During transition, make sure you never stand inside the boss's hitbox when lasers go out after role AoEs. They are very wide and you can easily get clipped by one of the lasers perpendicular to yours. 2. Cross Tail Switch has 9 hits, not 8, and it's impossible for tank LB3 to cover all 9, meaning you need to deal with one full damage hit. The timing you gave makes the final hit the high damage one.

love the visual guide followed by the actual footage, makes the mechs a lot more intuitive - excellent guide!

I’m sorry I don’t understand true north relative please explain

Hey kobee where you. Like the content so far new here

UPDATED/NEW STRATS: EE1: You can find the safe spots from the 3rd hit. The west safe spot will be the one hit by a line, the east safe spot will be the one not hit by a line.

this is good stuff mate well done - tho are u sure u can solve everything just looking at north for EE1?

Great guide! Thanks

why does movement look floaty in video?

I have a big issue with this guide : Dark knight main tank

君の動画を待ってたよ。

Let's goooo, I was just thinking about starting 4S this weekend (needed a break after three floors of PF hell)

Ty big kobe you are my hero

Thank you so much for this guide! I love the animated explanation + pov. So useful and clearly explained and shown. Honestly half the prog for me has been getting used to seeing it “irl” during the fight 😅

Hey, just here for alarm pheromones 1 o/ Oh-oooooh... OKAY BYYYYEEEEE

You make really great guides. Easy to follow and having visual examples after each section is very helpful!

Love the honesty at 6:00 :P "B stands for Bullshit"

shout out my boy kobe