Poor Mans Electronics Bench
Poor Mans Electronics Bench
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E015_PT06 - Sencore LC53 - Trimpot Circuit Reconfiguration
Link to all of Episode 15's Videos - ruclips.net/video/hErYamBZkPI/видео.html&pp=gAQBiAQB
This episode will cover the work to finish my installation of new multi-turn trimpots
for calibration of the LC53 Z-Meter, as well as making one component replacement to
Create an easier attachment point for test leads for calibration work.
0:00 - Obnoxious channel branding & safety statement header
0:30 - Prologue - Brief intro on work to be covered.
1:31 - Brief schematic & calibration info review of issue to be resolved
7:02 - Spice modeling resistance loop values using Everycircuit.com online
Spice modeling site for comparing planned changes VS original circuit.
15:26 - Verifying components on schemati...
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Видео

E015_PT05 - Sencore LC53 - Trimpot and E-Cap Replacement and fuse installation
Просмотров 755Год назад
Link to playlist for all of Episode 15's video's here ruclips.net/video/hErYamBZkPI/видео.html&pp=gAQBiAQB This part (Part 05) covers the discovery of errata on the schematic and parts lists, replacement of calibration trimpots, electrolytic caps on analog & digital boards, and addition of a primary line side fuse for unit and transformer protection. 0:00 - Obnoxious Channel Branding Front Bump...
E015_PT04 - Sencore LC53 Disassembly Work
Просмотров 375Год назад
Link to Playlist of all of Episode 15's parts here -ruclips.net/video/hErYamBZkPI/видео.html&pp=gAQBiAQB This episode's part covers the work needed to further disassemble the 2 main PCB's ( Analog & Digital) from the unit's chassis, and then, separate the 2 boards to access the foil sides for component replacement. This work on this particular older style LC53 takes patience and caution to work...
E015 _PT03 Sencore LC53 - Collecting Components for Calibration
Просмотров 681Год назад
Link to Playlist of all Sencore LC53 Videos here - ruclips.net/p/PLuUMcBGVQYTCrmtpdpF0cqNnqTtglNlHc This video has, nothing directly related to working on the Sencore LC53, BUT, it does cover my efforts at collecting the needed components for calibration, mounting most to a small board for ease of use, and, verifying their values using 3 different test devices to make sure they are viable to us...
E015_PT02 - Sencore LC53 - Correction of PT01 Work & DIY test lead assembly & Functionality testing
Просмотров 696Год назад
Link to Playlist of all of Episode 15's parts here - ruclips.net/video/hErYamBZkPI/видео.html&pp=gAQBiAQB This video covers the correction of the wiring errors I made at the end of PT01, powering up the unit on a Dim bulb current limiter, creating DIY test leads using RG62 coax ( this is also covered on Part 01A) and then testing some functionality - capacitance & leakage voltage measurements, ...
E015_PT01 - Sencore LC53 "Z Meter" - Inspection and repair / rehab on unit# 1
Просмотров 1,6 тыс.Год назад
Playlist to all of Episode 14's videos here - ruclips.net/p/PLuUMcBGVQYTCrmtpdpF0cqNnqTtglNlHc This series of video's will cover working on a pair of "auction sourced" Sencore Model LC53 Inductance / Capacitance "Z METER" units. One of the 2 requires a replacement of a line cord cut off by a previous owner, and I will cover the general inspection of both devices as well as the replacement of co...
E015A_Sencore LC53 - DIY Test Lead Assembly
Просмотров 1,2 тыс.Год назад
Link to all of Episode 15's parts here ruclips.net/p/PLuUMcBGVQYTCrmtpdpF0cqNnqTtglNlHc This video starts off my work on 2 - Sencore LC53 "Z Meter" units. Neither one came with any test leads, so I thought I would start by assembling one and sharing the details of what I used and how I did it. Timeline below 0:00 - Obnoxious Channel Branding Front Bumper 0:11 - Intro - Sencore LC53 DIY Test lea...
E014 PT02 Sencore LC102 PA251 Power Supply
Просмотров 365Год назад
Playlist to all of this Episodes parts here ruclips.net/video/YMmwrgec8bc/видео.html&pp=gAQB This part covers the replacement of the main electrolytic cap in the PA251 power supply "brick" for a Sencore LC102 LCR tester. 0:00 - Obnoxious channel branding front bumper 0:11 - Removal of original capacitor & measuring with "common modern testers" 3:40 - Checking the original & 2 candidates to use ...
E014_PT01 - Sencore LC102 PA251 Power Supply Inspection for Recap
Просмотров 408Год назад
Playlist to all of this Episodes parts here ruclips.net/video/YMmwrgec8bc/видео.html&pp=gAQB This episode will cover the inspection of, and selection of a replacement main capacitor for a Sencore model PA251 power supply for a Sencore LC102 LCR component tester. 0:00 Obnoxious Channel branding front bumper 0:11 - Brief description of power supply & cracking it open 1:48 - Exam of the "Innards"(...
Sencore LC102 XraytonyB Info 04 24 2023
Просмотров 1,6 тыс.Год назад
Link to XraytonyB's Video here ruclips.net/video/uvCckxAMBRA/видео.html Info for Tony's troubleshooting his LC102 When I say "P10 & P11", I meant P13 &P14, which are the designation of the output on physical pins 30 & 31. And, I misstated the frequency @ 4:00 , it was 41.05 KILO Hertz, the darn cord kept getting in the way of seeing it, lol.
Clamp on Milliammeter? R_001-Bside ACM91 Clamp on DMM Review
Просмотров 3,6 тыс.Год назад
DISCLAIMER: This meter was purchased , by me, at full cost, with no compensation from Bside or Amazon. I am mostly reviewing the clamp on milliamp functionality and accuracy, and found that it leaves something to be desired because of drift due to things as slight as the earths magnetic field, or, just the want to drift even when not moved during a measurement. I found that the "Low-Z" voltage ...
Tech Tip - DeoxIT Spray Nozzle / Cap Replacement
Просмотров 648Год назад
Link to Playlist of all of my Tech Tips ruclips.net/p/PLuUMcBGVQYTAbJqYTMl8TS3671ktT6mcc This video, and my channel, are NOT sponsored by Caig, as it will cost them sales from stopping product waste! I discovered a good replacement for the leaky, awkward original Deoxit spray can nozzle, and I thought I would share the info for those that are interested. You may have a can of "Duster Air" you c...
E013_PT02 - Acoustic Research AR11 - Cleanup, "Defunkification" , and sizing up new Woofers
Просмотров 286Год назад
Link to all of Episode 13's video's here ruclips.net/p/PLuUMcBGVQYTAvkJq0Fk2iFUPIOAD7NIgl This part will cover. some cleanup of the original tweeters , or "HFD's" my attempts at removing the "funk" from whatever a previous owner decided to contaminate the inside of the cabinet with, and, since my new LFD's arrived, I did a quick comparison of the bolt circle and basket OD to see what it will ta...
E013_PT01 - Teledyne-Acoustic Research AR11(Kind of) Inspection, evaluation and repair-modification
Просмотров 756Год назад
This episode will cover the inspection and testing of a "used and abused" set of Teledyne Acoustic Research AR11 loudspeakers. They were previously "modified" by an owner, most likely due to the rot of the low frequency drivers foam surround, and are in need of some help in order to perform anywhere near the original designed specs they had. Links below timeline will ease the access to informat...
E012_PT03 - Sencore RC121- Unit 1 Restoral Completion & start of Unit 2
Просмотров 190Год назад
Link to playlist of all of Episode 12's video's here ruclips.net/video/MYyCdTzd-bc/видео.html If you are just interested viewing in the "Finished Product", feel free to jump ahead to 2:00:14 This video contains about 2 hours of an epic tale of microminutiael documentation and info on the final work on my Sencore RC121 unit I have chosen to restore first. Chapter timeline links below to help ski...
E012_PT02 - Sencore RC121 "The Substitutor", - Component Replacement
Просмотров 444Год назад
E012_PT02 - Sencore RC121 "The Substitutor", - Component Replacement
E012_PT01 Sencore RC 121 "The Substitutor" R-C-Diode Substitution Box
Просмотров 389Год назад
E012_PT01 Sencore RC 121 "The Substitutor" R-C-Diode Substitution Box
E005 PT05 Eico 443 Unit#1 Final Repairs
Просмотров 5392 года назад
E005 PT05 Eico 443 Unit#1 Final Repairs
E011_PT03_A Eico 1140 - Adding Low & High Series Resistance Function
Просмотров 2002 года назад
E011_PT03_A Eico 1140 - Adding Low & High Series Resistance Function
E005_PT04 - Eico 443 - Unit#1 - Repairs in Progress Vid
Просмотров 3272 года назад
E005_PT04 - Eico 443 - Unit#1 - Repairs in Progress Vid
E011_PT03 - Eico 1140 R C Sub Box - Final reassembly & testing
Просмотров 3612 года назад
E011_PT03 - Eico 1140 R C Sub Box - Final reassembly & testing
E009_PT02 - Brymen 869S & Bu 86X Datalogger File Info
Просмотров 4672 года назад
E009_PT02 - Brymen 869S & Bu 86X Datalogger File Info
E011_PT02 -Eico Model 1140 "R-C Combination Box" - Front Panel Restoration
Просмотров 2012 года назад
E011_PT02 -Eico Model 1140 "R-C Combination Box" - Front Panel Restoration
E011_PT01 Eico 1140 R-C Combo Substitution Box
Просмотров 2702 года назад
E011_PT01 Eico 1140 R-C Combo Substitution Box
E010_PT2 AC Unit Recap - Testing Old VS New Caps
Просмотров 5532 года назад
E010_PT2 AC Unit Recap - Testing Old VS New Caps
E010_PT1 - AC unit Recapacatation
Просмотров 2972 года назад
E010_PT1 - AC unit Recapacatation
E009_Unboxing video - My New Toys
Просмотров 1,7 тыс.2 года назад
E009_Unboxing video - My New Toys
E006_PT3 - HP E3612A Power Supply - Final Mods and Testing
Просмотров 5532 года назад
E006_PT3 - HP E3612A Power Supply - Final Mods and Testing
E008_Conductance, Gigaohms and Easter Eggs
Просмотров 1,2 тыс.2 года назад
E008_Conductance, Gigaohms and Easter Eggs
E005_PT03 - Eico 443 SCT - Testing After Tuneup
Просмотров 2502 года назад
E005_PT03 - Eico 443 SCT - Testing After Tuneup

Комментарии

  • @CandidChums
    @CandidChums Месяц назад

    12:58 What exactly do you mean by using it to troubleshoot? How does cooling off components help with troubleshooting?

  • @paulvanderwielen8173
    @paulvanderwielen8173 4 месяца назад

    Dear all, has anyone the schematics of the Sencore IB78 (rs232 interface to Lc102) available for me, thanks ?

  • @mutherofexiles1948
    @mutherofexiles1948 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks! I'm going to be working on this very item soon.

  • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
    @poormanselectronicsbench2021 5 месяцев назад

    IMO, it's main desirability is the leakage test with a selectable supply voltage for those who work on items with older caps in them. There's not many, if any, individual components in these outside of maybe the main transformer and pushbutton switches that can't be replaced or substituted, so, the viability of repair on these is pretty good. I just chose to replace the trimmers as a "because I can" item, it probably wasn't necessary in the long run, but, it will make for easier calibration when I get there.

    • @mikemullenix6956
      @mikemullenix6956 5 месяцев назад

      Understand, but I have 2 sprague capacitor checkers that have 600v cap checkers Sprague Tel-Ohmike Model: TO-5 Capacitor Analyzers that work and I recapped they don't make em like they used to

  • @mikemullenix6956
    @mikemullenix6956 5 месяцев назад

    Ive watched every video so far and im not so sure of the repair ability of the lc53. At least for me. Too many undocumented parts . I thought about obtaining one of these but got second thoughts.. I currently own several genrad lcr bridges and a DE-5000. But i read about this meter being the gold standard.

    • @mikemullenix6956
      @mikemullenix6956 5 месяцев назад

      It make me wonder how many manufacturers are guilty of the same documentation errors

  • @mikemullenix6956
    @mikemullenix6956 5 месяцев назад

    I wish I had the patience to see something like this through. Kudos!

  • @rickpontificates3406
    @rickpontificates3406 6 месяцев назад

    That usually means, the ECOs (engineering change orders) weren't added to the project

  • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
    @poormanselectronicsbench2021 6 месяцев назад

    I apologize to anyone that was insulted by a troll I removed here. Comments involving respectful discussion , thoughts, and criticism are welcome here, insults, trolling and bullying are not welcome and will be removed and offending user/s blocked and reported.

  • @caseymulcihy89
    @caseymulcihy89 6 месяцев назад

    Enjoyed watching your LC53 videos. I have my original Sencore LC53 I bought back in December 84. The next year they came out with the LC75 that could measure ESR, and I felt I had wasted $895. If I had only known a newer moded was coming for $995, I would have waited. I wasn't happy with Sencore. Recently I found my LC53 was out of calibration, reading capacitor values too high, so I took mine apart to recalibrate it. It's run 43. I replaced all the electrolytics, although they still tested good? In trying to recalibrate my LC53, studying the schematics and the hardware, I found 23 areas where the machine and schematic differ. So far, I've been able to calibrate everything except for the 800mH and 8H range, controlled by pots R27 and R29. After reading how the inductance readings are taken, I can't find out how Sencore "automatically" switched to the correct 1 of 6 inductance ranges to get a reading. I've studied schematics of LC53, LC75, read the manuals and technical information and read the patents on this and similar machines in trying to learn about inductance switching. I hope you can calibrate you LC53 ok. If you have any knowledge of the inductance switching, please share.

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 6 месяцев назад

      Thank you for your comment! I think I will try to make a video on the user manual's example of doing a qualitative ESR measurement by paralelling an oscilloscope set to AC input (as exampled on PG21 of the operation manual) and observe the residual ripple that is left when connecting a electrolytic cap, as according to Sencore, there should be a fairly clean sawtooth pattern ripple evident on a cap with good ESR, but the waveform will be peaked / spiked on a cap with unacceptable ESR levels. I am also wondering about the difficulties of calibrating for inductor values, as inductors by their own nature have widely varying values depending on the frequency they are subjected to under test ( and in use) , and, if the frequency isn't known and or a controlled constant, I would think it is going to cause great difficulties in calibration.

    • @caseymulcihy89
      @caseymulcihy89 6 месяцев назад

      I don't think you will have any problems with frequency when it comes to calibrating the inductance adjustments. All Sencore LC meters measure inductance by measuring a voltage generated by 6 different sawtooth ramps, with 6 different rates of rise. This is why there are 6 pots to adjust the 6 ranges. Using this technique, the inductance measured is independent of frequency. There is no bridge circuit that is frequency dependent. A coil has an inductance of 1 Henry, when the current flowing through the coil changes at a rate of one ampere/second, (A/s ). The voltage induced in a coil, with an inductance L, with a change in current is: Voltage of (coil) = - L(henries) di/dt, where di/dt is change in current over time. This is how Sencore gets their inductance measurements, by creating a voltage across the coil from a sawtooth ramp and measuring it. They use a sample and hold circuit for the peak voltage (or almost peak voltage) developed across the coil. They then calibrate this voltage on the digital voltmeter in the LC53 to make it equal to the inductance of the coil. BTW, on my Sencore LC53, I found more schematic errors this morning. All the 6 pots that calibrate the inductances are 1000 ohms. Up to 33 mismatches between schematic and hardware.

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 6 месяцев назад

      @@caseymulcihy89 Casey, thank you for that in depth description of the inductance measurement configuration! Also, now that you said you found the trimpots to be 1K components on original install, I will have to double check what I have, but, those are configured as series - rheostat variable resistors so they will still fall into proper adjustment range with a 2.5K trimpot. It's very aggravating to find so many "discrepancies" between the actual build and the schematic & parts list, but I guess it's part of the hobby to find these things out, and also to figure out workarounds if trouble arises.

    • @ohger1
      @ohger1 6 месяцев назад

      I bought the 75 in 1984 I think? I paid $999 and it had interest free monthly payments of $100. Best $1K I ever spent. Still use it today.

    • @ohger1
      @ohger1 6 месяцев назад

      @@charlesg5085 Well, there you go!

  • @t1d100
    @t1d100 6 месяцев назад

    Pot/resistor hacks and labels = 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @jspencerg
    @jspencerg 6 месяцев назад

    Voltage at capacitor rating required to measure leakage unless capacitor is not a capacitor anymore.

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 6 месяцев назад

      I am not going to debate that in this video, as I really didn't make a comparative stance on that here, it would be more pertinent of a comment on my E_001 video. I also hope you bring this to Mr. Carlson's attention, I am sure he would love the info.

  • @chrisreynolds6331
    @chrisreynolds6331 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for an interesting video. I'll try this comparison on my kaiweets meter that I bought a few months ago.

  • @blackrifle6736
    @blackrifle6736 10 месяцев назад

    *Thank you for posting this. Saw your post on element14 video same subject. Cheers!*

  • @mikeadler434
    @mikeadler434 10 месяцев назад

    👍👍

  • @gatesmw50
    @gatesmw50 10 месяцев назад

    I have an LC3 that I want to shotgun all the electrolytics, as I think that is why I am getting screwball readings and in some cases no reaing at all on some caps. Your video is a big help, thanks !

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 10 месяцев назад

      I was lucky on this unit to the point that none of the board mounted caps were showing parallel leakage or actual physical leakage, but I have seen at least one video where a device with the light blue Rubycon caps had caps out of tolerance and with bad ESR's. The main axial power supply cap, C4, 2000uF, on the other hand went high ESR, I would look at that one first as it would drag down most other operating voltages. If you have the darker colored rubycon's, they may be new/good enough to not need to be shotgunned as of yet.

  • @Tony.Technics.1200s
    @Tony.Technics.1200s Год назад

    If all else fails, get yourself some tiny needle bottles ( 1 or 2 oz. they're dirt cheap, get enough for every can of oil you have) and spray this stuff into the bottle, then you can be as precise as you want when there's no need for a jet of this stuff. Ya, these new nozzles suck, but they never affected me since I hardly ever spray from the actual can, unless I'm washing crud out.

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      That is an option, I usually reserve that one for aerosol cans of cleaners and lubricants that somehow have a clogged or broken valve and became depressurized with some contents still left in the can. Thanks for thinking of that one.

  • @stormchsr101
    @stormchsr101 Год назад

    i think i would use a sucker ball on terminal strips. wick for pc boards. true, j-std soldering dooesnt require wrapping wires like in the old days.

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 11 месяцев назад

      Good points about solder removal, everyone is free to use what hey are comfortable with, and can afford, I just decided to spring for a solder / desolder station, but I also often use wick dabbed with a bit of no clean flux since its's 35 years old, and it seems to still do the job well. Granted, point to point wire wrap connections were the standard on a LOT of electronic devices back then, they at least allowed some ability to connect and disconnect wiring on a boards topside to get to remove or reposition it to get to the foil side, but, proper tools and technique were never really developed and shared over time for handling them. I came from a field of telecom equipment installation and repair, where I was well versed in handling them with proper tools ( provided by the company - but can be purchased, or, I did make a budget DIY unwrapping tool - info in my "Tech Tips" videos) but they are still widely used in Telecom work for connecting copper circuits from analog voice frequency to digital T1 data speeds, as well as low current power and alarming needs.

  • @mr.johnson4651
    @mr.johnson4651 Год назад

    Thank you poor man's electronics!

  • @riveter1
    @riveter1 Год назад

    Thanks for a great review. I just ordered one and I hope the DC current function works for my needs. Here is what the manual says. Measure AC&DC Current: Turn the rotary switch to (Amps). Push SEL/ZERO to choose AC or DC current. Center the wire within the clamp jaws below the horizontal line located on the clamp. DC current mode, due to the existence of electromagnetic field, please push ZERO button 2S, set the value of display to zero. Keep the direction of the meter and zeroing in line. I think the 'centering below the line' is because it has a Hall effect sensor that the wire needs to line up with. Also the PDF manual says Low Impedance resistance is 800KΩ

    • @adrianpuentes7299
      @adrianpuentes7299 2 месяца назад

      Hola. Que tal te fue con las medidas en corriente alterna y en corriente continua ? Cual fue la medida más baja en la escala de.miliamperios???

  • @poormanselectronicsbench2021

    It's been pointed out to me, that, @ 50:05 , I made a goof when breadboard testing the old NE2 bulb, it did not have connection to the relaxation oscillator circuit, so, that would explain the bulb not getting striking voltage. Changing to a new NE2 bulb in the unit did restore its functionality, so that old one was no bueno anyways. The party that commented, also, suggested that I "put it in the closet and not touch it anymore", I so hate to disappoint them, but I still have unit#2 to work on. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @marcelomigueldasilva7444
    @marcelomigueldasilva7444 Год назад

    8 segundos de teste, não mais.

  • @marcelomigueldasilva7444
    @marcelomigueldasilva7444 Год назад

    Que pena por ele não se estabilizar. Mas com esse vídeo me ajudou muito a como trata-lo.

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      Your comment google translates to "What a pity for him not stabilizing. But with this video it helped me a lot as he treats it" I am taking it to mean that the DC millamp current measurement does not stabilize. That is a pity, yes..

    • @marcelomigueldasilva7444
      @marcelomigueldasilva7444 Год назад

      ​@@poormanselectronicsbench2021👍 isso mesmo. Obrigado pela resposta🤝👊

  • @faunseveryn3311
    @faunseveryn3311 Год назад

    🤦 'promosm'

  • @stevenbliss989
    @stevenbliss989 Год назад

    Try it with with 2N2222's (the 2N3904 has 5x the leakage, don't use it).

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 10 месяцев назад

      Considering that, with "open circuit" leads, it is not creating enough leakage to light the LED, the 3904's's I used, which, are most likely counterfeit's ( I sourced them from amazon I believe), still work acceptably, AND, if for some reason they blow up due to hooking to a charged capacitor, they can be cheaply replaced as well. Anyone can feel free to modify this circuit as they choose though :) I just went the "low cost" route.

  • @myradiovideos
    @myradiovideos Год назад

    I can relate to this for sure... Clever Idea... I purchased a can of D-5 about 8 months ago. BTW, the distributor is here in San Diego, just 20 minute drive for me. I only had the can for about a month when it started to leak with the can still 90% full. I called up the local distributor and they told me to come on up and they would give me another can, no questions asked.. So now I had can that was working as it should, but yes it is hard to control the amount of spray!! So this is what I did with the old can, I went out and purchased off eBay those small 4 OZ Squeeze bottles with a 3" stainless steel tip. I have used these to drip a controlled amount of 3 in 1 oil or WD-40 onto critical parts inside radios and test equipment totally eliminating all the spray mess.. Then I placed the defective D-5 can upside down and punctured a small hole in the bottom of the can to let out the air. I then used a small funnel and let all that quality D-5 liquid drip down into the squeeze bottle. Now I can precisely distribute this to critical switches and pots. After I drip some into a volume or tone control pot, I then follow it up with a shot of compresses air to be sure it spreads evenly inside the device.. Wanted to share this with you... Robert San Diego,,,

  • @carlstreich
    @carlstreich Год назад

    P r o m o S M ✨

  • @myradiovideos
    @myradiovideos Год назад

    Hello Again!! I am in the process of restoring this same unit right now. The unit was in mint condition in its original box. First thing I did is replace all the front jacks with modern banana type sockets. Cleaned up all the switches and replaced several capacitors. All the circular-tube type capacitors are leaky and values have changed. So I drew out a diagram and sort of schematic so I know where all the wires will go. Next comes the capacitor replacement. I saw you other videos about how to Do It the Right Way!! I have not decided what path I will take yet, as I have a lot of projects pending here in the Ham Shack! I was wondering if I took my Hot Air de-soldering tool and heated up the existing capacitors and would they just pull out??? My gut feeling is they would not come apart, but nothing to loose for trying... I am writing this BEFORE I even watch the video... I have several decade boxes at this point in time, but the KEY to Sencore is that their switches are made to Parallel or series several of the capacitors to get to the desired value.. This allows for less capacitors resulting in Higher Voltages, but we know that a 10Uf 450 volt capacitor today is rathe small in size.. I personally like to use 600 volt not 450 but only if they will in fact fit. At least the RC121 has a nice large case. Your other restoration required that you replace the switch, that will work but requires more capacitors. Luckily my switch is in perfect condition.. OH!!! BTW, thanks for the tip with the UV Light! Never thought about that, so I ordered one off Amazon, it arrives today.. I also saw someone using a Thermal Imaging camera to look for hot spots, I have a high quality Fluke, but never though about using it that way to look at hot spots with Vacuum Tube radios... I only retired a few years ago, never had a chance to sit and watch RUclips videos on repairing and restoring equipment. Covid changed all that! Learn a LOT from all you folks. Been in Electronics for 50 years, always willing to learn new trick of the trade from Smart Folks like you!! 🙂 Will enjoy watching this series of videos... Robert San Diego

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      Thanks for your comments and feedback! Starting out with a item in reasonably good condition will make the work less complicated for sure, the tough part is to find one with a properly functioning slider switch on the far right, as that switch operates the discharge resistor function, is spring loaded with one of its mounting pins used as a latch to keel the capacitor connection in circuit until released, and that single part/function cannot be easily recreated nor is a viable modern replacement produced. I can't say that my capacitor replacement of the E-Caps was "the right way" , as some may choose to put in terminal strips and make them more accessible for future replacements, but my version of restuffing the original "dynamite sticks" looks more original, does not take up any more space or create mounting issues then the originals, and and can also be re-entered fairly easily if a future rework is needed. I chose to make some test cords with 2mm banana plugs to use the original jacks, which were cleanable, and that saved me some disassembly work as well. Good luck with your restoral! 👍

    • @myradiovideos
      @myradiovideos Год назад

      @@poormanselectronicsbench2021 My slide switch is OK. I will mount the new capacitors on a terminal switch. The new Banana jacks on the front look very nice. I will send you a picture when I get it completed along with a dozen other summer time projects, In The Heat!!! 😞

  • @myradiovideos
    @myradiovideos Год назад

    EXCELENT !!!!!!! Could the cleaner , The Pink Stuff Cream Creme remove the top coat rather then all the elbow grease??? Robert

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      I have not tried "The Pink Stuff" , but, seeing there was some blemishing from corrosion, I figured that sanding with a few grits to leave a bit of a brushed finish was the way to go. I'm not saying that what I did was the "be all - end all" process, it was just documenting what I did, and the results I got. Someone may have a better process to share, as a lot of Eico equipment has these inlayed/stamped stenciled panels that need refurbishing.

    • @myradiovideos
      @myradiovideos Год назад

      @@poormanselectronicsbench2021 I agree with you. I also have restored a EICO with those nice inlayed letters. in my case I took it down the street where I had it San Blasted clean then they placed it in an acid bath for me. Started with an all new looking piece of metal.. I get this done free as I helped the owner get his internet and streaming working perfectly when the cable company could not get it to work correctly. 🙂

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      @@myradiovideos Nice! I do have an Eico model 249 VTVM ( with the BIG analog meter) to get to sometime soon, It had some weird corrosion damage on the bottom of the panel, but I think I will try a finish technique called "Engine Turning" which will leave an overlapping circular polishing pattern on it, just to make it a bit unique.

    • @myradiovideos
      @myradiovideos Год назад

      @@poormanselectronicsbench2021 That EICO is a great meter.. I had it for about 5 years, mint in the box from a local estate sale. But sold it late last year after getting a near mint HP 410B. I was looking for a nice unit for over 2 years and finally got one at a reasonable price, $200. Came with several spare parts, like a new AC tube that goes in the probe head. Original owners manual, and a complete set of spare tubes.. Sold my EICO for $150 and that was a very high price but it was mint, original factory box and operating instructions.. Now I am trying to enhance my Tube Checker collection, I have 4 right now, but after a few more... Sometimes one checker will not check several types of tubes, so you just need more then one! 🙂

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      @@myradiovideos I know that it's not a "lab standard quality" meter by any means, but the freakishly large analog meter in itself would make a good view for working on vintage tube equipment, where "ballpark" measurements are acceptable. I need to make an RF probe for it, The RF probe schematic I have just lists a 1N34 diode, a 100pF cap, and 2 resistors, I don't have it, but should be easy enough to fabricate one.

  • @poormanselectronicsbench2021

    And Yes, I am guilty of some repeat content - the DIY lead creation of Part 1A, from 13:42 to 1:04:10 , was harvested from the middle of this video, as I figured that some may just want that info without the other associated content, so, you can skip through a large portion of this video if desired if you go to 1:04:10

  • @old64goat
    @old64goat Год назад

    At about 1:00 into the video, it shows the BLACK lead going to the transformer case, WRONG, that power supply is wired wrong, very unsafe.

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      THAT....is a good spot, BUT, that is also the OUTPUT of the PA251 going to the LC102. If you go to part 1 @ 15 mins and 40 Seconds, you can see that the line cord's green lead is connected to the other end of that screw and to the transformers core laminations, so, all is well. Why they chose the output color configuration they did is a mystery, but in order to correct it I would need to rewire the socket on the LC102, and then it would not conform to other units that have been made in case they ever get separated and connected to different units. Thanks for the note though, it made me investigate it better.

    • @old64goat
      @old64goat Год назад

      @@poormanselectronicsbench2021 True I did not see PART 1, glad all is good, I had thought that was the line cord HOT side....LOL

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      @@old64goat If in fact that were the case, that would be QUITE troubling, I agree!

  • @poormanselectronicsbench2021

    I did make a connection mistake when replacing components, I caught it before applying power for the first time, but I also left the error in the video as a info tidbit for those who will be working on this unit. It would be an easy mistake to make, as you will see, but I am sure it would at least affect the units functionality and accuracy, and at worst cause some component damage.

  • @oldavguywholovesRCA
    @oldavguywholovesRCA Год назад

    A panavise would be your friend in this type of endeavor. 🙂

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      I do have some "third hand" kinds of things, but I am used to doing work with manual dexterity, I can still tie good fishing line knots, so I do OK. Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @pcwrangler09
    @pcwrangler09 Год назад

    Thanks for documenting the lead creation. I was tempted to buy an eBay version but luckily realized I had a Pomona brand set that worked like a charm. This will be good for future creators. Eager to see the rest of the series.

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      Thanks! Almost every "auction item" LC53 I see does not have the factory test leads, and from playing with the 2 units I have, it seems that 50pF is the "sweet spot" for lead capacitance to be able to zero the units. This isn't a "be all-end all" assembly procedure, but the components I used and the assembly process seemed to make for a good. finished product. There are also some leads for sale on Ebay, but it's best to contact the seller to verify that they used a low capacitance coax, and also verity that they take returns in case the leads are out of spec.

  • @poormanselectronicsbench2021

    My candidates for the replacement of C1 were - ( @ 5:08 I misspoke the brand, it is NOT a Cornell Dublier Capacitor) United ( Nippon) Chemi-Con GPD series ( Marked GPD on top) EGPD350ELL472MM30H - 4700uF - 35VDC Würth Elektronik - WCAP-ATUL series - Man# 860040581021 - 4700uF - 35VDC - 10K hours @ 105C As you see, I used the United Chemi-Con - Diameter & lead pitch was the same as the original. (all 18.0 x7.5mm) I chose these caps due to the high hour rating at temperature, and to the higher ripple current ratings, making them more suited to install on a unfiltered side of a DC rectifier bridge. 3K hours @ 135C@ 4:20 - I most likely did not have the best lead zero on the MESR meter, and possibly not the best attempt at a good connection with the original cap, but further testing with 2 other devices later on verifies the ESR of the original cap is very close to the 2 brand new ones I measured against.

  • @pcwrangler09
    @pcwrangler09 Год назад

    Definitely worth the effort imo. Like I said before it helped the ripple. I read a recommendation to add a second small cap in parallel to further reduce the ripple but I haven't done that yet. Maybe your install video can include a test to see if it helps. I think it was the pF range for high frequency. There's a vacant spot on the board if you are game. I guess they over engineered and decided to exclude the second large cap.

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      I didn't investigate it, but there looks like a spot for another E-Cap on the opposing edge of that board, that may have a high value bleeder resistor installed in it. I'm not going to go any further with mods on it, because the LC102 itself has some more filtering once it gets inside. It looks like it hits a 0.1uF first, then in and out of an LM317, then a 220uF bridged with another 0.1uF. If it had symptoms of bouncing readings, I'd look into it more, but it seems fairly stable with most measurements.

  • @ralphj4012
    @ralphj4012 Год назад

    Well done for helping Tony. For my own sanity please indicate which functions, buttons you are selecting to get the signals to toggle (high to low). I am a curious bystander.

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      Just what I showed to test the 50pF cap in the beginning of the video, the "Capacitor Value" button.

  • @andymouse
    @andymouse Год назад

    Cheers.

  • @Area51Corsair
    @Area51Corsair Год назад

    Many thanks for helping Tony and his community ! I'm still suspicious on EPROM rather than MCU ... by the way it still worth an MCU change, if available.

  • @pcwrangler09
    @pcwrangler09 Год назад

    Good Man! Thanks for contributing. I'll need to tackle mine soon.

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      Thanks! I'm kinda skittish about even doing a recap on this one. It has the later model Nichi purple caps, and they seem to hold up well over time, and since its working well, I figure "Don't fool with a Running Piece" , as they say. I did open up, and replace the PA251 DC power brick, might post that as a video, it's only got one cap, a 4700uF - 35V and although it tested great, it is aged so I updated it.

    • @pcwrangler09
      @pcwrangler09 Год назад

      @@poormanselectronicsbench2021 I agree. If it ain't broke... The cap in my power brick was out of spec so I replaced it. Helped a lot with ripple.

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      @@pcwrangler09 I also figure that mine might be, since that item is plugged in and probably powered almost all of the units life if set up on a bench, so, yes, was a good thought for you to do that also.

  • @xraytonyb
    @xraytonyb Год назад

    Thank you so much! As I suspected, my MCU never toggles pins 30 or 31 low. If I fold pins 30 & 31 out from the socket, it will very intermittently behave like your video. I think this proves that I have a bad MCU. Thanks again!

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      If you are looking for a better waveform sync, set your trigger function to trigger on a downward slope on the pins that are already HIGH at a idle state, that's what I did and they seemed to lock in well.

    • @markanderson350
      @markanderson350 Год назад

      Cpu chips do fail and yes the suffix letters or numbers can make a big difference on these type of chips as in speed or built in ram/rom/eprom/nvram. Fortunately we have the net now.

  • @hullinstruments
    @hullinstruments Год назад

    I just stumbled across it but might be good to put curve tracer in the title somewhere. A lot of people are into content like that and it would have brought me here months ago

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      I believe it's in the "tagged" information, which should lead a search to it, but I have also grouped it into a playlist for the entirety of this unit's work, but TY for the suggestion.

  • @old64goat
    @old64goat Год назад

    Good tip but i have to say, PLEASE get that text off the screen, it is distracting. Thanks for the video

  • @Homer19521
    @Homer19521 Год назад

    Well done. I've the 8024B that I bought at a hamfest for $5. Works great after replacing the protection resistor. Wish I could find a new LCD screen for it. 👍

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      It's nice to find an old warrior for next to nothing that still functions well. Thanks for the view.

  • @paulj0557tonehead
    @paulj0557tonehead Год назад

    Bravo! I was just given this same unit. I knew it would be multi value 'can caps'. Mine is in really clean internal condition. BTW you can push the text leads black and red wires into the holes for storage.

  • @jaitechpowerprojectpvtltd6261

    can we measure AC milli Amps please reply

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      The English language version of the user manual PDF can be downloaded here www.mediafire.com/file/efyz5m85w42gre9/ACM91_User_Manual.pdf/file and it states that in the 6A range, set to AC, it can measure down to 0.001A, so the meter should be capable of it, but I did not verify this because I was more concerned with the DC milliamp measurement issues.

    • @adrianpuentes7299
      @adrianpuentes7299 3 месяца назад

      Hola, y en corriente continua es capaz de medir 5ma ? 10 ma?​@@poormanselectronicsbench2021

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 3 месяца назад

      @@adrianpuentes7299 Obtener mediciones de miliamperios de valor bajo usando la pinza amperimétrica es difícil debido a la forma en que se comporta este medidor, como se muestra en el video. / Obtaining a low value milliamp measurements using the clamp meter is difficult due to the way this meter behaves as shown in the video.

    • @adrianpuentes7299
      @adrianpuentes7299 2 месяца назад

      Pero cual fue la medida en miliamperios mas baja que usted obtuvo en corriente continua ? Usted hace referencia a la forma en que se comporta este medidor ....por favor usted puede explicarnos mejor ??e​@@poormanselectronicsbench2021

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 2 месяца назад

      @@adrianpuentes7299 Durante un breve periodo de tiempo, pareció observarse una diferencia inferior a 5 mA, pero, debido a que las propiedades del medidor no pueden poner a cero, no puedo estar seguro excepto por el hecho de que no puede medir adecuadamente ese nivel bajo. / For a short time, a difference of under 5 mA seemed to be observed, but, due to the properties of the meter not being able to zero, I cant be certain except for the fact that is is unable to properly measure that low.

  • @poormanselectronicsbench2021

    On a video from the "Northside Service Company" YT channel, a comment by John Cronin, stated that "The competitor Servisol Super 10 contact cleaner (not as good) head fits perfectly on the new Deoxit cans and has a very slim nozzle so no more waste" , so, although I did not investigate that myself, I am listing it as a another alternative.

  • @robharley9838
    @robharley9838 Год назад

    Really nice tip once again! I tried it real quick and it worked perfectly. Now I can use that expensive new can of D-5 that had been sitting on the shelf, ignored because it leaked so badly. Thanks!

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      Can I ask what type/brand and maybe date code of can you used as this way we can keep a running list of what may work well.

    • @robharley9838
      @robharley9838 Год назад

      ​@@poormanselectronicsbench2021 Of course! "Dust Off" Duster, blue cap, date a little smudged but I think it reads 05-07-2122, maybe 2182

  • @poormanselectronicsbench2021

    ruclips.net/video/Hd6M3fO6Upg/видео.html is a video from the Element14 presents channel, showing how bad the "perfect straw" leaks when the pivot on that straw keeps dropping and opening its seal.

  • @markceisel9681
    @markceisel9681 Год назад

    I have a Eico 443 with Manual that I no longer use and would like to sell. Any suggestions?

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      I edited my reply, as I thought you just had a manual. I would suggest a larger auction site for the sale, possibly hooking up a scope to it and doing a demo video would increase it's potential value as well. IMO, the transistor curve tracer part is functional on the 443, , but not as good as some newer units, BUT, the diode test function is unique for checking reverse breakdown voltage well over 1000 VDC, and has to be treated with care and respect as well. Besides the gain po circuit t being designed and wired inversely to the panel markings, some resistors that drifted out of tolerance, and the NE2 neon bulb needing to be replaced, my factory wired unit was functional as purchased, the second "kit built" unit still awaits my attention, and I'm sure I will sell the factory wired one and keep the kit after I get that one going.

    • @markceisel9681
      @markceisel9681 Год назад

      @@poormanselectronicsbench2021 Thanks. I will have to think about that.

  • @harryshector
    @harryshector Год назад

    I think you should consider scripting your videos. That might help you stay on topic better, and focus your thoughts. This video should have been about half as long as it was.

    • @poormanselectronicsbench2021
      @poormanselectronicsbench2021 Год назад

      That is a good suggestion, granted that I find myself thinking for the best words / phrasing while I am trying to work with items, but it takes spontaneity out of it then, which, adds adventure and possibly humor. I don't mind the "human element" in most of the other electronics channel's I view here though, I accept them for what they present and the way they present it. If someone does take too long on something, skipping through it, or just choosing to not follow them anymore is always another option. Thank you for the feedback!