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That whole wall is full of repaired holes. If you saw the wall up close, you would see how much damage I've done to it over the years.

The vulnerability in these locks really just comes down to whether or not a lock has a side bar inside it. A properly designed side bar will not be accessible inside the keyway, leaving the lock picker no means of attacking and compromising the side bar. If you see me raking or jiggling one of these kinds of locks open, the lock has no side bar.

@@HandgunSafe I'm gonna try to find pictures online about that kind of lock to better understand but thanks for the explanation!

@@HandgunSafe Aaah, I didn't know the concept of "sidebar". I just read a document that talk about it a bit more. I thought it was something you could see from the outside, but it seems it's just part of the mechanism in some way. Thanks, you just taught me something more about lockpicking!

The point I made on video is that it doesn't matter. If the safe is not bolted down, one only has to try one position on the dial and drop the safe. If that fails, try the next position and drop the safe. Continue until open.

@@HandgunSafe Sure, if they know it's a safe in the first place and that there is a secret latch commanded by the knob... The whole point of the diversion is that they won't know. The user is supposed to ALWAYS engage the secret latch. In this case there is no way the safe will open upon impact. While you raise some valid point about the documentation, the drop test is misleading, it makes it looks like this safe will open by itself if dropped while properly locked :/

@@clarkguenfu You're describing what is known as "security through obscurity." In this case, the safe remains a secure diversion strategy for gun storage until it is no longer obscure. Once the safe is on the market, presumably selling through the website and maybe Amazon, and once it has been reviewed on RUclips and elsewhere, the diversion is no longer obscure. Thus, the security is lost. Even without my video, the obscurity would vanish. I've advised companies for years to avoid this strategy for their devices.

You're buying good brands all around!

They use the same lock. Their boxes look different. I don't know what you mean by "hold up." But I can tell you the difference comes down to style.

@@HandgunSafe I'm star struck that you of all people commented. I'm bashful lol. I meant hold up to pen testing like if they would be approved on your list hypothetically if they were tested. They seem to have upgraded their boxes with the protective cover as well.

@@newyoutube6282 They're both good brands. I would select one that offers the right storage for your needs.

@@HandgunSafe thank you so much. I had been looking at them for a while and was wondering if they met your standard or garnered your general approval lol

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@@LGB-FJB Eye make typehoes you woodnot beleeve al the tyme.

The lock has a housing to prevent the lock from being punched through from the outside. The housing is plainly visible on viideo.

When I took the safe apart, I found too many holes in the door to bother plugging with nuts and bolts and washers. It was going to look ridiculous, so I tossed it out.

I didn't test how hard it is to pull the cable from the crimped piece. You can contact Steelhead and ask them to provide some testing data on that. The M1 lock is an excellent lock with a sidebar. The lock looks like a wafer lock, but it isn't. The sidebar is inaccessible from inside the keyway, so there is no way to compromise it. The face plate is 1/8th inch steel, and there are also anti-drill pins in the face of it. You're going to have to ruin a drill bit or two, or a couple of screwdrivers, to force it open.

I don't know what to say. I haven't played with all that many of these kinds of mechanical locks. The Big Red locks are designed by somebody not affiliated with S&G, and the designs are his, though the locks are fabricated in China.

In case you want to know, those rugs are cheap Home Depot runners that absorb sound, so the audio doesn't echo too much. Other RUclipsrs lay blankets all over the floor, but I end up tripping when I try that. No one will ever see those outtakes.

The two boxes are nearly identical and have the same amount of steel. Just get the one you want. 😀

The housing welded into this will prevent the punch attack. That's why I recommend it. I didn't bother trying to destroy it, because there is no reason to.

This one is definitely more expensive than then key entry one. However, I am going for this one as it is on your approval list and when I have to open it at night, I don’t want to get the key in the dark while every second counts.

I don't know. The decision to buy one or the other comes down to intended use.

Yes, I've taken these locks apart. The lock is elegant in its design. But when I go to the trouble of recording a detailed video on a technical matter, the video receives only modest views. A video covering how the 5-button Simplex lock works would be a lot of work for very few views. In fact, in case you want to know, the average watch time for my videos is 1 minute, 30 seconds, no matter the topic.

@@HandgunSafe lol.. bummer. I'm just fascinated in how they work.. I've never heard of them until recently. I've been getting free safe's that were open.. and I learned how to decode the combination locks.. But the simplex is it's own little world. :) ... I love learning about cool stuff like this, that I never even knew was out there.................... Well, If you ever did make a video with a complete teardown of a simplex: I would be grateful and super excited.. Cheers. (I subbed too, btw).. I liked your math video on counting the possible combinations. very cool

It's also the best simplex lock video ever made too. Guaranteed.

My recommendations are in my recommendations list. I don't rank them by cost or features, but none of them are cheap.

@@HandgunSafe I see, thanks 👍

Maybe install it at the end of a counter, then put a bag of almonds or walnuts inside, and make a set of food-safe jaws (folded pie-plate) that hooks onto that 'ledge' to minimize contamination. Were that ledge a little larger I'd say can crusher, or gravel pulverizer but the original mounting plate is really not substantial enough for that.

@@LynxSnowCat Or put sugar in there so little kids can't get it.

Nope, just a RUclips channel and a website, which is mostly for people in the industry.

To be honest, I have no interest in the Vera Safety thing. And unless I could talk them into sending one for free, I would rather not spend $270 or whatever they want for it. Sorry.

This comment got held up by RUclips. Maybe it was "have the balls" that triggered the hold up. Anyway, I let it through, and I agree. I can't believe Vaultz would make a handgun safe like a pencil box, or maybe a guitar case.

When I got it, this was 39.99. So I guess people are buying it and using it for guns.

The way you wrote this triggered the comments blocker, which is good I guess. I want to filter out the bad stuff, but this was funny.

Yes, it is a pushbutton combination lock.

Most locks can be drilled. I've been force-testing locks for years. What's the point?

Try getting away from the ugliness by listening to cool music you never heard before. I've been discovering music on RUclips. Here is some music I somehow missed: Unleash The Archers, Sigrid, and the new album by Kvelertak.

@@HandgunSafe Major respect to anybody who listens to UtA. I recommend Symphony X and Sonata Arctica's "White Pearl, Black Oceans" (not Part II). Also, Lords of Trident.

@@BlueSpawn I'm on it!

A part of me feels like it's about time I live my life instead of listening to people living theirs x)

@@replacesoundboard That's the part of you to listen to! Start doing what you want to be doing. Life is not a rehearsal.

The situation is even worse than I let on. I should probably do an in-depth video on this issue.

@@HandgunSafe Although it's not directly related to a GunSafe video channel, I would still really be interested in your take. Overall, I try to buy non-CCP products, but it's tough because it seems to be the only type of hardware that's sold.

@@BlueSpawn I hear you. China manufactures most of the fasteners, nuts-and-bolts, wiring, electrical components, and so on. I think this is going to change over time. You can still buy tools made in the U.S. And you can buy Knipex hand tools.

I can't help you with it. I no longer own that particular safe. I gave it away and replaced it with another.

The recommendations I make are all on my recommendations playlist. See: ruclips.net/p/PLJp0a5mt3TiTPJpZeA2jKPgYdjHIEvw9k

Thanks so much, you’re awesome!!

Really appreciate the work you do. ​@@HandgunSafe

Contact Viking Safe through their website. Every one of those locks come from the factory with the same preset combination, 2&4 together, then 3. Maybe somebody at the second factory, where the locks are installed in the boxes, something went wrong.

@@HandgunSafe yeah really not sure what happened. I sent an email, we’ll see if the get back but I’m leaving overseas tomorrow morning so hopefully they do by today 😂

Interesting trivia. I'm switching over to Rand CLP.

No, I never did a GunBox video. I doubt that I will. They just aren't that popular anymore. As for a Wyze review, I don't know. I'll think about it.

@@tomcepek498 Flattery will get you nowhere. 😀Let me see if I have the money and time to look at the Wyze thing.

@@HandgunSafe lol appreciate it- hopefully they send you a freebie

I like how RUclips is capable of suggesting some videos in which you said these lines when I searched "the damage is done" on your channel. I think it's capable of searching (to some degree) within the automated captions of the videos for keywords. If I search "you could just give it a good shake", I instantly find the Union Safe with too many ways to break in.

Well, at least the Verifi Smart Safe looked like it was worth its price

This box is nearly identical to the Smart Safes. The basic box fabrication has been around for years and years.

No. The bypass lock installed in this is a short-cylinder cross lock. I've demonstrated how to open them on this channel using tools any non-expert lock picker can use. Besides, the reason that some biometric handgun safes were recalled recently was this identical programming issue. If someone makes a mistake enrolling a fingerprint, that person has no way of knowing the safe will still open for any fingerprint without actively testing the safe. The risk of somebody leaving a safe available to anyone is too great, so devices that have this programming oversight are being recalled.