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@@oponomo one other person mentioned that. Thanks for letting me know too, I’ve taken it into consideration. In videos I’ve posted after this one, I don’t think you’ll find that to be the case! Apologies my friend hope you were able to hang in there.

@@oponomo I think it’s probably subjective what exactly Louis’s motivations are imo, and your take is definitely valid. Personally I read his bouts of anger toward the end of the game to be frustration instead at people not understanding that what he was doing was for the betterment of everyone (in his opinion)

@@hustheposum thanks for saying that, I really appreciate it! We can agree to disagree, but if you ever want to explain your reasoning then feel free I’m always open for a chat :)

@ I won’t pretend that mine are more thought out than yours, but I do have to say I liked Del more and Eupha less. Thought the Del and Bas dynamic was throughly entertaining and Del was the actually smart (not as smart as he could’ve been but smarter than the rest of the cast), and Eupha was a trope that I’ve seen too much and done better. The rest are minor quibbles, I would’ve had a lot of your S tier in A tier. Louis and Neuras would’ve been S plus maybe Strohl and HBerg. More importantly, I’ve watched a few of your metaphor videos and I like how well thought out your takes are. You’ve earned a sub. Keep up the good work!

@ appreciate you, and big respect to your thoughts. I think I could’ve done a better point highlighting that just because Del didn’t make every right decision, doesn’t meant that he wasn’t actually smarter than most of the ppl in the cast. I don’t think Eupha was a trope at all, I did a character analysis video on her where I actually get deeper into her character than the surface level simping. Thanks for subbing and watching videos, and please keep sharing your thoughts! You make interesting counterpoints

@@neguscw2058 all facts!! Thanks for watching :)

@@Pixel_Rocket23 they really don’t make it clear at all, and leave a ton up to imagination. If she was, she would’ve/should’ve name dropped him since so many ppl in the party had close relationships with Grius.

@@AnimeFanOmega very astute point. That’s actually one of my favorite things about Metaphor’s writing, is that a lot of the stories are more relatable to adults than they are for children/teens/young adults. Like any parent who plays this game will really feel a lot of emotions at various different points. Even stuff like how Strohl lost his parents or how Eupha lost hers, those are also things that parents would feel the impact of much deeper.

@@LucyTheLamia aye fam careful with the spoilers 😂 don’t want anyone playing xenonlade to catch a stray here! And that’s the beauty and the curse of consuming a lot of media… eventually you realize how similar alot of stories can be!

@@novellapermanent7081 more is 100% on the way! So glad you enjoyed :) thank you so much for watching and sharing your thoughts

It's just interesting, because the main question I grapple with is if you swap the release dates of these games, do you think people would feel that Persona improved on the formula, or took too many steps back? Gameplay is a wash, Metaphor 100% owns that, but there's so many minor-mid things that P5R did better or just as well. Like if P5R had released after Metaphor, people would be singing the praises of the variety in dungeons, the higher amount of compelling antagonists, the intriguing confidantes with people who become your enemies... Idk I guess I'm kind of reiterating the essence of this video in this comment. Metaphor is amazing and a masterpiece. It does a lot better than Persona, and it's differences from Persona are amazing and should be celebrated. But it's kind of frustrating it released so many years after P5R and failed to improve a few of the flaws that game had, and even took a step back in some arenas.

@@LordKhuryGaming That's my issue with the game too, it got released like 8 years after og Persona 5, but for a game that took so long to come out, it barely feels like an improvement, in fact, P5 has things that Metaphor should already have. It's like Metaphor was being developed alongside P5 instead of after it, so it feels kinda outdated in some aspects, I still think it's a 10/10 JRPG though, just feels like a game that should've came out like 2-3 years after P5 and not 8.

@ you’re speaking my mind my friend 🤝

@@bizarduno for me personally I didn’t really mind it tbh :) a skin would’ve been cool but if you really want to see that you can always just reclass her to knight. Not optimal from a gameplay perspective, but hey

@@MrDragoncow I completely agree with almost everything you said. On the Junah point specifically, I think I actually talk about that in another video, where I did a tier list ranking every character in this game. Based on your comment, I think you’d enjoy my other Metaphor videos too! Definitely try the one where I examine the entire narrative in the game too, and I also just did a video where I do a deep character analysis into Eupha. I’m starting a series where I do a deep analysis of every character in the game, and again, based on your comment I look forward to hearing your thoughts on those as they come out!! I think bottom line tho to finish my response to your comment, is that this game straight up would perfect for me if they remaster it and address a lot of the opportunities they left on the table.

@@Arctic7985 hmmm that’s interesting. I assumed (perhaps wrongly) that the protagonist was running the kingdom pretty democratically, considering how he set up the 6 Partisans and basically delegated a lot of his power. They talk about in the epilogue for example how Batlin holds routine court meetings where the public can come and voice any of their concerns. So it’s clear the protagonist is creating a system where the people largely decide most things, and the king just guides the decision making. That’s what my impression was, and of course it’s reflected in the fact that they show that the protagonist makes a habit of roaming the streets and speaking to people incognito so he can authentically steer the kingdom in a way that reflects the people’s desires, not just his own. I think from a fantasy/video game perspective, had the protagonist immediately said “aight this king shit is over!” That would’ve been unsatisfying and anticlimactic, cuz you spent so many hours trying to ascend the throne and become king. I don’t want the protagonist to be a face in the crowd, I want him to be a righteous king. It’s a fantasy. He’s a very democratic king and I think that’s enough for me. I think to enjoy it to the max we gotta slightly separate our real world standards a bit tbh from our expectations of the protagonists resolution in his fantasy world. That’s my two cents!

@LordKhuryGaming I completely forgot about that part, so i actually would say my opinion has been changed. I sort of focused on the term "king" and didn't consider the 6 partians at all. I also didnt consider that him roaming the country incognito would sort of keep his ear to the ground. He also ends the game travelling off to solve problems personally which I think does reflect a desire to improve the people's conditions. I think the biggest thing is that the protagonist is supposed to be a reflection of the player so there aren't really any opportunities for him to talk about like, economic materialism or anything. Although granted I didn't do any of the podium debates.

@ yeah in the podium debates you’re mainly refuting the other candidates mostly inane points, so you’re right in terms of the lack of capability to kind of define your policies. That would’ve been very cool, if at the end of the game you were able to design your policies and then the time skip into the epilogue, the epilogue would look different based on what you picked

Thank you so much for watching! Glad you enjoyed it! She's definitely a gem :)

lmao I couldn't get past the contrived part. Respect to those who could though!

💀💀💀 this gotta be one of the most universally supported ships I seen 🤣

Gotchu fam, one of them may be next tbh! Not sure yet of the order.

Love everything that you said, I feel your comment really is a value add to this video. Basilio is definitely getting a lot of love! If not the next video, I think he'll be the one after that at the latest!

I'm with it

@@AlexJW2608 excellent analysis to you as well my friend! Your comment reminds me of a Eupha quote: “I simply say that such belief in God's salvation is no reason to abstain from saving yourself. I beseech you, before you fold your hands in prayer, stretch them out to the people around you. Cherish one another." That says it all rlly, and resonates with your learning as well :)

@LordKhuryGaming Indeed, that's very beautiful quote, thank you!

@@AlexJW2608 of course :)

@@AlexJW2608 and I forgot to say, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts!

I love how you pointed out the parallel to the Prince's journey as well. I feel like maybe I could've dug into that a bit more in this video, but people love the Eupha/Will dynamic so much, that I focused on Eupha outside of that. If I did this video again, I'd definitely add a subsection where I explore some of the stuff you commented. Appreciate the insight man, and thanks so much for watching! Glad you liked this one :)

If they remake this game and add the very few things they left on the table, it could leap up to being my favorite game ever tbh.

Ahhh I love that analysis! Didn't even think of that SMT link. Really appreciate you commenting and adding value to this video!!

The Magnus brothers are in high command!! So you'll definitely see them at some point, Bas might be next, or the video after that tbh. Still wondering if maybe I should do a joint video for them? We'll see! Thanks so much for the sub and more than anything I'm glad you enjoyed! Until my next video, just so you know I do have other Metaphor videos on my channel that you might like :)

@@saviormonroe-lh7oh well, wanna talk about it? What’d you disagree with and why? And did you enjoy watching the video, or not? You’re free to have a different opinion, but I’d be curious to know!

@LordKhuryGaming just because I disagreed doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the video. I don't get hurt over opinions. Some of the stuff I felt was just an outlook from somebody who misunderstood the reasoning behind things. Alonzo in particular. His bond story was dope because of what he was trying to get across to the protagonist and it was parallel with the faker/trickster hero archetype. And most of all, Alonzo had one of the most memorable bonds. And impact, imo, is the most important.

@@saviormonroe-lh7oh I understood what they were trying to communicate with Alonzo’s story. What my main issue was, was that I personally felt the delivery of the content was really poor and unbelievable. So I didn’t enjoy it, because it didn’t feel real to me at all. Personal preference on that front

@@saviormonroe-lh7oh were there any other characters you felt I misunderstood?

@@UmisTsukishiro00 hmmm I’m not sure I catch your meaning?

@@LordKhuryGaming A silent protagonist cannot conflict with the player’s thoughts and feelings. If the boy’s personality wasn’t guided by a dialogue tree, I think he would show a more obvious interest in Eupha.

@ I get your meaning 💯

lmao if you love her enough you make her work! On a serious note though from the gameplay perspective, she combos well with Junah. Junah creates weaknesses, and Eupha uses her powerful elemental spells to attack said weaknesses

She's definitely a relatable character! I think a lot of people are out there who have stepped into situations or different experiences, where the customs and ways of living were completely different than what they were used to. A good example of this that a lot of people go through, is their first time going to college. Just know that you will adjust eventually, it's what humans do :) and don't be afraid to ask for help or guidance from the right places, or to connect with someone who you knew before you stepped into the real world just so that you can anchor yourself and maybe confide in them about what you're going through. You got this!

@pumpinjumpin76 appreciate you!! So happy you enjoyed :)

@@isakwolff5491 that means more than you know. I’m honored! Thanks for joining up, I got a few other videos on this game as well, if you haven’t seen them yet. I’ve analyzed the entirety of the narrative, and also ranked the characters in a tier list. Other than that, more character analysis videos are on the way!

@@LordKhuryGaming, I will definitely check them out. Your video convinced me even more that she is meant to be "canon interest" if Atlus went out and confirmed there was one.

@@isakwolff5491 🤝 appreciate you, and agreed!

@@jayanicygnus thanks so much!!! Those videos are on the way! I appreciate your thoughts as well, so please continue to point out ideas or reactions you have to my videos!

I fully expect this to be confirmed in any sequels they make, and I think this does qualify as further evidence that they were in on the chess metaphor! I didn't want to stray too far in this video into things that were a bit more subjective (i.e. Eupha will be queen) since I wanted to use more objective evidence than anything else to make my points. But it seems to be pretty widely accepted as truth, which is cool! I'm right there with you man, I think Eupha being queen is definitely endgame.

I can see it, not only because of her Follower rank but as the king falling in love with a priestess of a pagan tribe (his mother was a queen but she had too incredible magic powers) is a paralell to what his father did. A pagan king and queen, the ultimate f. you to santists.

I'm picking up what you're putting down! The chess metaphor 100% could extend to the MC, in fact it's telling that it does considering that it extends to Edeni as well. It's like the most important people in Eupha's life all have this symbolism extended to them, and I think that's cool. Great point on the gameplay aspect, I actually agree that you could argue that omnidirectional point for sure. One things for sure - Us of the 'Eupha is Wifey' clan are eating good lmaoo

@@ReezyDoesIt one of my favorites too 😂😂🤣 and a perfect moment for Eupha’s character. Glad you’re still enjoying the vids!! More to come and hope to see you there :)

@@LordKhuryGaming For sure! I always appreciate seeing people like me nerd out about the games they enjoy. And your video quality is great, you on the right track

@@ReezyDoesIt preciate you boss

@@NonsenseCalYes YOU ARE GREAT AND MY DOG AGREES 😂 Seriously though. It means more than you know. Much love friend.

@@Glowstringman that’s a great idea! I only touched upon that lightly in my other videos and I agree that it would be a worth a deep dive. Literally adding that to my list, thank you so much! Also, no worries on not liking Eupha that much! I’m glad this video added to her character for you, I feel like a lot of her character was lost in translation because of her being so bold with her simping (it’s distracting lol), so I wanted to highlight what I personally actually found compelling about her character 😂

@@theob.8461 lmfaooo they gave way too much hints for the Eupha and MC pairing. What’s wild is it makes it seem like they’re definitely canon together, in spite of the fact they sought to make this game with no romance. Also thanks for watching, always great to see ya here glad you’re still enjoying the videos!

@@oreofilledjoy302 he wasn’t originally on my list, but I’ll add him. I think there’s enough there! Appreciate you communicating this, hope you enjoyed this one :)

@@oreofilledjoy302 you’re not wrong my friend 🔥

@@eva24gelion ppreciate you fam! Wifey, I mean Eupha, deserves nothing but the best. Seriously one of the most heartwarming characters I’ve encountered in all of fiction. Glad you’re still enjoying the vids!! Btw that’s a great point, I wish I’d taken a moment in the video to highlight that. It was awesome to see her flip the “save the princess” trope on its head once again. She basically saves herself in the dragon temple, and then promises to protect you later on. I just think it’s awesome and shows how Atlus is one of the better companies when it comes to progressive writing in their video games.

@@carsonminter3020 ohhhh that’s an interesting take 👀 I’ll see what I can do! I have a vacation coming up, and some of the character videos are closer to being done than others, so I may have to shuffle the order a lil bit just to make sure a video drops for you guys next week, but regardless they will all get done! Thanks so much for watching and I’m so happy you enjoyed this one! + Yeah I’m a bit remorseful that you spend the least amount of time in the game with Eupha, but I think they were able to fit a lot of good stuff into your time with her.

Lmao she deserves the title 100%

I wish I thought of that when I was making this video!! Such a great point. I also feel like her black and white outfit is also meant to convey how a large point of her journey is growing an understanding that the world isn’t black and white.

@@RUclipsguy7777 I’m honored that you think so :) I really wanted to do right by best girl, so I spent a lot of time on this video! I’m so happy that that’s reflected in the viewing experience, just want everyone to enjoy or learn something when they watch one of my videos.

Actually the mask is symbolic towards ALL the mustari, and even carries on to the Dragon Temple’s boss. Notice how the first major mustari you meet, Edeni, starts with his mask on at the tournament. He’s initially like everyone else, and believes that the other tribes are awful people, so he keeps his mask on, believing he can’t be open to change. However, when he meets the protagonist and his group, hearing how they actually wish for change, Edeni stops wearing his mask. Even the inn keeper both on Virga Island and at Altabury both have their masks off, and are initially friendly to your group. These people understand that they need to change their religious ways, even if the outside world isn’t any better. When Eupha finds her purpose and breaks away from “illogical methodology of devotion”, her mask breaks. It’s fitting that the boss is a human that represents the Mustari. It controls the dragon god, forcing its own people into more and more self sacrifice. On its own, it shields its own face with a helmet, and is constantly praying for death. The Atlus devs cooked man.

@@mreverything7056at 05:38 I talked about how the mask was a metaphor for all Mustari :)

@@caioiglesias6949 that means more than you know 😭😭😭 I’m really trying my best on these. I will analyze every major character in the game, so stay tuned my friend and I hope to see you on those as well :)

@@ReezyDoesIt yeah honestly so long as we get more content in the Metaphor world, I’m okay. Would LOVE a remaster just to sort of hold us over until a potential sequel, but at the end of the day I just need them to make a sequel of some kind. It would be a waste of all of their world building effort, and assets, not to do so.

@@LordKhuryGaming 100% we need more games in this world. They need to give the same energy to Metaphor that they've given to Persona. The world they've built here is too special to ignore after one game. There's so may stories they can tell. I'm not worried right now, I think they realize they have something special on their hands

@ 💯

@@dorrrrrian thanks so much :,) welcome! And I’m so glad you agreed on this video. If you love Eupha, DEFINITELY look at my video I just uploaded. It’s all about Eupha!

After chatting with people in the comments, I've actually come to agree on the Gallica ranking. Definitely would've had her a lot higher if I did this list again.