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When Grace turned on it, everyone knew it was done.

Thanks for the comment and i have to say that your take is really interesting and in all probability the most positive way to view this show.

Well headland was weinsteins personal assistant so who knows. Your definately right though children's shows show a higher caliber of writing than this show. It genuinely feels likes it's a show written by idiots for idiots.

If the show got much worse the memes might not have any relevance.... although the viewership of this show has been driven largely by youtubers. And I'd hazard a guess that the youtubers covering this might have collectively had a larger viewership than the show itself.

How exactly do you mean. The nuance of the prequels as even obi wan explains is that as far as he was concerned anakin died when he became darth vader. So it's not so much a lie as it is not a whole truth. Either way that does not subvert star wars, it doesn't undermine the essence of star wars or the entire story of star wars. This show does because they have now predicated everything that comes afterwards on this show. The events of everything are dependant on what happens in this show and how genuinely moronic every single character is shown to be. And I'd argue to the cows come home that that undermines the established universe of star wars rather than build upon it because if we are being honest the entirety of star wars, including what I think is good star wars (prequels and OT) have now been canonical linked to the worst (by a decent margin) that disney starwars has offered. Is that a problem? Not really because this show isn't star wars.... its a cheap knock off that smells and looks a bit like starwars but it doesn't act like star wars nor does it capture the magic of storytelling like what came before disneys purchase. Star wars is dead. Disney killed it and this god awful show was just an attempt to appropriate the causes of the events of films which, at this rate, will always surpass anything disney can create.

@@BanefulChronicles I pity you. I feel so bad your you I"m so sorry that you are the way you are. Its probably not your fault. I hope you get better.

@JustinWillisDevil240Z This is Gaslighting and a personal attack on a whole other level. Heightening yourself by showing fake compassion to verbally piss on a person. Must be this new all inclusive Generation and Audience that is talked about. And for the show, it's focus group are people on the intellectual level of an 8 year old loving twilight fan fiction that is constantly fiddling with it's phone so things have to be repeated constantly. A friend of mine had a stroke, he can genuinely enjoy that show, because it is so inclusive a person with just half a working brain can follow it. I cannot enjoy it. It is spoonfed garbage. Watch the last season of the Expanse, it cost the same, has working DEI characters that are enjoyable because they are defined by more than just they preferences and gender and the dialogue is not something that is aimed at lobotomized beings. That is how shows are done. Acolyte is a bad ripoff in which I am constantly asking myself where the f... The money for the show went. Not into writing, costumes or makeup.

@@fionarras4736 wall of text. didn't read.

@@JustinWillisDevil240Z Fly away little Troll pester other beings.

Thanks test, its much appreciated. Speaking about halo though - It's interesting that paramount pulled their funding before the actual proper halo story gets addressed. Supposedly the production company is now looking for somewhere to house its show.... I've a bloody great idea for them. The Bin.

I couldn't help but laugh when I read this but I think a true fan could write something better than this. At the very least they would know enough about the core story not to take a dump on it and call it gravy like this show does.

Your right it can't, but disney did its best with willow to make it so. And I would be more than happy if they gave this show, ashoka boba fett etc the willow treatment.

Yeah the acolyte sucks

Couldn't have said it better. In no way is it star wars other than appearance.

And yet disney will almost certainly renew it..... because it fits the message they are pushing and they have money to burn apparently.

That's mate, I think halo was the first series that I started reviewing solo as I used to do it with a friend but he didn't have time to continue so I struck out on my own. It's another awful show but I'd still watch it over the acolyte. I hope so too, I need to find my next thing to review before rings of power comes out next month. 3 episodes at once is going to be rough though lol.

There's no getting with the programme, Its not even how Subversive the concept of the series is.... its just a badly written half thought out idea what lacks even the basic building blocks of a reasonable narrative. Id rather just go back to the 80's and 90's and rewatch all of the amazing films from there than watch this rubbish and being honest if i wasnt reviewing it i would have checked out way earlier in the series.

No problem, its been a pleasure but this series has most definately not.... Thank you for the comment.

Thanks mate, both for the sub and for the kind words. Ill be honest i'm always a harsh critic of myself so to know the content is decent is a bit of a relief. Id say that's the only plus to this whole show, but if you can discover Ytubers why the hell cant the producers/writers of these shows. Maybe they would learn something and actually have their finger on the fandom pulse. Having watched the whole series now, i don't see how you cant root for the Sith in this series. If you actually accepted this as star wars and put it in continuity with everything else (i cant do this btw its OT prequels and maybe rogue one and that's the door shut) it makes you start to think that the emperor was right to end the Jedi and order 66 everyone they could. The Jedi are painted as emotional deceptive idiots. None of which are traits indicative of Jedi.

I couldn't agree more with what you have said. As you said the conflict should be because both parties believe they are right. The issue, other than stupidity being the only reason the show makes sense, is how tilted the show has been in its morality. It has purposefully tried to, rather than address the idea they both see themselves as right, paint the jedi as being the bad guys. But they can't even keep to that with how the pulled out from it in ep 7. I still can't work out what the jedi did wrong or why they would cover it up. It's just a sad excuse for writing. Thanks for the comment tho 👍🏻

Couldn't agree more with this. Also the truly shocking thing so much of the context of the show is not actually in the show. It's when leslye comes out post episode to explain all the things they didn't actually show or explain in the show. That is all the evidence you need for why this show is awful.

Thanks for the comment, The writers are incapable of even understanding logic and therefore nothing they produce is even remotely logic. Everything you have pointed out is true, there is nothing he did wrong. He defended himself as every turn, never was he the aggressor despite being violated in such a way as he was. There is no reason he should feel guilt. Maybe Sol should but lets face it she turned into a bloody smoke demon so I totally get him striking first because he thought he was protection Osha who turned out to be Mae. The whole premise of this show is that the Jedi are supposed to have done something terrible. The only thing I can find is they are all idiots, don't act like the Jedi's they claim to be, and likely could have told the Jedi council the truth without any issue. instead they covered it all up for no reason. Its perplexing to say the least.

@@BanefulChronicles Indeed, it is the same kinda inconsistent logic with which certain political groups attack everything. They claim to be victims of thought crimes. And in the same way here, we are just supposed to FEEL that Torbin was bad. He was a child. But a male child, so he is guilty as charged. But it also highlights a certain thing ive noticed in society - they do NOT differentiate between attacker and defender. I expirienced this many times in my life. The attacker is not the one who initiates violence, but who is supposedly weaker on their victim hierarchy. (Even if for Torbin that logic also does not work). The entire story would have made more sense, if they just started with the brendok incident chronologically and made only 1 flashback. Dragging any mysteries/plotholes beyond a first season, is reaaally bad writing. After first season, at least the basic motivations for characters should be completely visible. Did ANYBODY feel any empathy for the mindcontrol witches dying because Trinity unplugged them from the Wookies mind? I mean... In WHAT world is what they did, defendable? Or virtuous? They assaulted the Wookie Jedi with their power of MAAAANNY and a single hand mudra from trinity just kills them The whole idea of presenting the JEDI as some kinda police, is ridiculous. I never saw this in expanded universe or any SW game..

I could debate the tree on Dagobah with you, i believe its the cave that is definately the vergence. That said i was under the impression that Dyads were also a form of vergence if i am wrong on that then i guess i am wrong. But what bugs me is if the hole is the vergence, Sol was within very close proximity of the hole.... as they all were by the end of the episode. Are we supposed to believe that none of them sensed a concentration of the force right beside them that can quite clearly be harnessed if we are to believe it was manipulated to create Mae and Osha? Are we supposed to believe that when trying to locate a vergence in the force none of them would use the force to find said vergence and would instead resorted to slow boating it across a planet taking samples and using metal detectors? Its just crap.

To you too, say what you like but that quote will stand the test of time. I mean managerially he wont have anything to show for it but he will always be a God on Tyneside. And being honest, id take that season and the fact we collapsed and won the big goose egg over any other season we have had since.

Thanks for the comment, in many ways i think your right with this I do think star wars needs conflict whether it has to be on the galactic scale im not sure. I still think telling the story of Darth Bane (with competent writers) could be exceptional and it would not require a galaxy spanning war or rather it might start as this and then whittle down as it progresses. Either way there were many other places they could have gone in the EU but they chose to de-canonise it and when they do borrow from that content they ultimately end up doing it worse than it was done the first time. And this is why I think the problem is the writers in general and the fact they are creatively bankrupt. And this is what has killed star wars. Even when they do produce something worth watching people are now so sick of star wars they wont watch it (ANDOR). With the exception of the acolyte everything they have produced has been set in a tiny timeframe of the universe. Probably because they want up to recognise and draw lines with content we have seen before but that in itself is fraught with dangers if it isn't done well.....and lets face it..... its not. It leads to a damaging of the storytelling that was there previously because of the logical inconsistencies in the storytelling or outright universe breaking events and revelations that impact the whole of the IP. The irony is they tried to move outside of the timeframe. Which i would commend them for if they hadnt still tried to make it relevant to the prequels and in doing so potentially damage the prequels or try to assign blame for the fall of the Jedi order beyond its logical source. They also still hired writers that i wouldn't let loose on a daytime soap, i mean they have had significant flop after flop both in the movie department and in series releases and yet the same clowns continue to get jobs. Isnt there anyone better suited for these roles? isn't there anything better that Disney could be producing? Id argue yes.... but they are doing their best to make me think not.

There's just too many acts done out of emotion or sheer desires for their motivations to work with the jedi order. These shouldn't have been allowed into the order let alone have passed the jedi trials.

@@BanefulChronicles I'm pretty sure that the four who went to the planet that Mae was trying to hunt down and kill are the players from that TTRPG session that Leslye claimed to have gotten the story idea from. It sounds mind bogglingly STUPID to do that, but... yeah.

@@marhawkman303 Thanks for the comment. I hope that is true because it would explain so much if it was almost a DnDesque script with each writer just making up the character they represent as they go. Just instead of having 1 character who is an idiot for humour purposes, they have every character as an idiot. Being honest though i didnt know the idea had come from a tabletop game..... its a level of idiocy that i cant understand and i dont think anyone else can either as evidenced by the fact Leslye has to come out and justify herself after every episode and it just makes even less sense after she speaks.

@@BanefulChronicles I think Leslye just didn't have any actual GOOD ideas, and used that because she doesn't really understand how to make a good story. Which makes me wonder why she was the story lead....

@@BanefulChronicles you know, thinking some more.... I don't think the incident on Brindok was created for this show at all. Leslye's comment about it made it seem like a funny anecdote.... and something that happened before the show's idea even existed. Also given that this is set in the High Republic time period... that'd make the game session something that happened rather recently, since the books for that came out a few years ago.

Thanks for the comment and I don't think I could sum the show up in less words than that.

Thanks for the comment and the compliment. Hope to have you here for the finale.

It was a difficult watch and once it's over, assuming it does get a season 2, I'm not sure I'd be racing to watch it. If I hadn't chosen to review it I almost certainly would have checked out by now that's for sure.

Ha couldn't agree more!

@@pompombonanza Thanks for the comment

Firstly thanks for the comment. As for how you become a master That is not strictly true. Training a padawan is one of multiple ways to attain the rank of jedi master. In fact it's the easiest way and would normally require the successful training of multiple padawans without any failures of the jedi trials to prove that you deserved the rank of jedi master. There would be many jedi who had padawans who would never attain master status. The main characteristics of showing that one deserved to be a master is to show the strength of their devotion to the order. This could also be done through other noteworthy feats in service to the Republic or the jedi order itself. By such reasoning sol could be a jedi Knight or a master.... we don't know which because its never explained at the time. As for headland saying that, that's all well said and good. But it's never shown in the show, and if it isn't shown in episode 8 then regardless of what she says it didn't happen in the season as a whole. The fact she has had to come out after every episode and provide context and try to explain what she has done or what things meant is testament to just how bad the writing and production of the show is. A show should stand on its own two feet, it shouldn't require a running commentary to make the show make sense. The vengance is almost certainly the hole but it wouldn't be the first time this season that they u turn massively. And because of that i cant help but feel they are setting the twins up to be a dyad I could be wrong and I hope I am but again they have proved already they don't give a damn about the continuity in star wars so I have absolutely no faith in them.

Never liked any scenes, just a bunch of cliche and boring plots imo.

I'd agree with you in that it looks like star wars. It just isn't written like star wars nor does it feel like star wars and as you said the writers lack the talent to do anything they have attempted with this episode.

I wouldn't mind some half decent writing for a start. Just some actual well written characters who act as someone might act in a situation, who have actual development and arcs that make sense. If you can nail that, you can introduce even a semi decent plot and it will be a passable show. We have little to no development in characters, what changes do occur are like doing a u-turn at 140mph and are completely against the motivations they have previously shown. Basically it's completely irrational and implausible. And did I mention that the plot is 100% not semi decent.

I think your right there, CW shows are actually better than this but I do feel the majority of their views for this are content creators.

Even if I agree that you can't spam it, you can still use it. And they don't. The sith on the other hand he uses it quite frequently throughout the episode. I'd hazard a guess if I counted them up he used it more than every single other character combined.

Not a problem, glad it helped. As for ranking it it's a little difficult to say but I think it's probably this. As much as I hated the new trilogy of films I don't think they are actually contenders for the worst star wars and that's because I think the true contenders are pretty much all of the traditional serial installments with maybe the exception being mandolorian (it's getting leniency because of season 1 primarily) So with that you have ashoka, boba fett, the acolyte and obi wan. Ashoka was just plain bad, the writing was trash, the lead character had absolutely no grace with a lightsaber and the choreography for the most part was awful. The plot was weak the character development none existent the whole show was contrived and suffered from an insane amount of dead space invloving staring or looking at people in "interesting" ways. I could go on but I'm sure you get the point. That said it did have two redeeming feature. Ray Stephenson. but even he can only elevate a shoddy script so far. And it also didn't really damage the universe that much. Boba fett. I didn't mind boba fett would i watch it again? No. did i hate it with absolute passion? No I just minded alot of the artistic decisions and the fact it was a waste of an iconic character getting his own story. The plot was weak the strongest part of the series was when they injected the mandolorian in for his series 2.5. But it wasnt terrible. Again it didn't damage the universe so out of this group I'd say that's actually the strongest. Obi wan - if were talking about which series did the most damage to star wars then you can shout bingo right here. A message laden mess that damages the storyline of the OT. The entire premise of the show is absolute crap and the ending makes obi wan ultimately responsible for every single person darth vader kills from that point on. So even if the show was good (which it's not) as game of thrones taught us, if you can't stick the landing then you still end up a burning wreck. That said..... the show had star power.... in that we had hayden and ewan again swinging lightsabers and all the feelings that brings with it like it almost certainly being the best looking lightsaber fights of the Disney era. Which is ironic seeing as its a throwback to the George lucas era and all the training they had to be actually competent. Lastly acolyte... what can I say... sol and qimir can act.... end of positives. No one else can, the script is awful it's clearly trying to subvert people's expectations that the jedi are good by painting them as being reprehensible. The dialogue is utterly trash. The notion of a lightsaber whip is absolute garbage. The plot is dismal and it spends, at least, twice as long as it needs to address anything. It might be recency bias.... but for the worst actual show.... I think its this one.

Thanks for the comment, and yeah I'd avoid this like the plague mate.

@@pompombonanza ha ha ha. Well I wouldn't know anything about that but I'll take your word for it.

@@yurikendal4868 I hadn't even thought of that..... the transponder came back on.... they would have detected and known that sols ship was around the planet moments before they arrived. So the fact it was never mentioned or alluded to that it was strange they would go dark again is as you said nonsense. I could go further in that why would the point you exit the atmosphere and jump from be identical to where you'd enter the system? Twice. The rotation of the planet or just different escape vectors different destinations would mean the likelihood of them jumping from/arriving to at the same place absolutely bloody tiny. The whole show is just convoluted contrived convenient crud.

Its worse than them not even landing. you can even see them pulling the hits so they don't land.

Ive no idea what this episode is. I like the kamir dialouge but thats it.

@@yurikendal4868 he's the best character by a country mile and the actor can act.... for me though everything is just tainted by how awful the writing is.

Firstly, you show me another supposed big production that uses rotten tomatoes within the first 5 seconds of a ad to try to justify why you should watch something and i might cede the point. But any big budget production has never had to resort to rotten tomatoes to try to sell it. As i said in the video even if you accept that.... its barely fresh and thats by critic standards.... critics who almost never actually have their finger on the pulse. As soon as you look at the audience scores.... well that freshness dissapears very quickly. Further to these these barely fresh reviews it is well known that outlets that consistently pan projects get their access revoked. That's why the usual suspects that have these positive reviews are the access media. To have a consistent number of these outlets, who rely on access to these shows in advance so people will read their reviews and they make money, only just give a show a fresh score is not exactly singing its praises if anything its more likely indicative of just how absolutely shocking a show is.....they just can't tell you it's that bad because if they do they might not get access to the next disney project. As for paid for reviews....Go to Google..... and put in rotten tomatoes paid review and at least pretend you have fact checked something before saying something doesn't exist. It's well documented that PR firms have been paying for reviews for exposure for projects for at least the last 5 years. It's also known that rotten tomatoes had to kick and ban critics to try to save their reputation when what has been suspected for years was proven last year. So before you accuse someone of being out of touch perhaps you should find the pulse.

@@Dogmilk235 thank you for the comment. More so thank you for a well thought out and coherent response it's actually quite refreshing. Obviously I disagree with alot of what you have said, but that's OK, it's my opinion which is no more valid than yours. So all I will say is I hope before the end of the season that they actually attempt to answer the stories or deal with the glaring issues in such a way as makes sense for you so you can continue to enjoy it because I am past attempting the mental gymnastics required to get my head around how they are changing fundamentals and why that doesn't negatively impact what has come before.

Absolutely! We all have our ideas of what starwars is and what that means to us. I’m sure you were smacking things with a lightsaber just as I was at a young age. I think my enthusiasm stems from wanting more starwars media. It’s fair to say some of their projects certainly aren’t intended directly for the fans of George Lucas starwars - there’s a part of me that worries they’ll step too far away too. I think I haven’t drawn that line in the sand yet but can respect when others have. I don’t disagree with all of your points, I’m just holding on and hoping.. maybe I’m delusional. I guess we’ll see huh lol 🤷🏻

@@BanefulChronicles update after watching the last 2 episodes: I was WRONG, I wanted it to be great so badly. The kyber crystal scene .. bro wtf she really just picks and chooses what she wants from starwars rather than molding something out of what’s come before it. Lame.

@@Dogmilk235 I'm surprised your so restrained. I'm just finishing editing my review of the finale and i've had to cut so much because its too bad for RUclips. You can even see the point in the video where I've lost the will to go on lol. You are completely right they have subverted ideas that would be identifiable by fans of Star wards but they have then changed how they work, or what they are so they actually aren't relatable at all. They have even gone as far as to Subvert the entirety of star wars as far as i am concerned. This is as this absolute joke of a series is now the cause for the entirety of the Star Wars universe. so now everything that was good about star wars is now potentially worsened because of how it is reliant on this show. I am choosing to agree with so many other fans. Star wars is basically the prequels and the OT and maybe rogue one and Andor. Everything else is non-fan fiction.

Thanks for the comment, if i was you i wouldnt ever be tempted to get it especially with this move to paying a subscription and still getting adverts. Even if i could get past that the reality is there isnt enough good content to warrant having the subscription. As for the show i couldnt agree more, and i really struggle to see the market they are aiming this at because it seems for the most part the audience is unified that this is just bad..... that saidI'm in the middle of reviewing episode 6 and all I can say is that its worse than this....

@@alfa2433 I doubt your the only one lol. Was that because your expectations were so low?

@@BanefulChronicles rather see it as it’s getting roasted than to see it alone.

@@darkenkil4416 in the context of the entire universe the vast majority of what disney has produced has been, what only can be described as, universe breaking and If all of these supposed fans you deem as fake didn't watch any of disneys star wars content the viewing figures would be next to zero because that's the actual fandom. A real fan would be able to see that. they would actually understand what makes star wars what it is. Just like they would understand the universe that was built, the timeline it was set in and how the characters and events fit within that time chronologically. And regardless of whether this show is good or bad it 100% doesn't care about any of those things. Something a fan....(short for fanatic btw) would find unforgivable. Now i just have to say this show, if it wasn't star wars and was just a knock off, would still be horrendous.... but at least it wouldn't damage the storyline of the entire cinematic universe of everything that came before it. It's OK that you like this show and that I don't, but if you think that this show fits within the star wars universe then you are a fake fan. Theres a reason that the actual fans have turned against Disney.... there's a reason that significant proportions of the fandom have given up on disney and just enjoy the OT and the prequels. There's a reason that every star wars film and TV series has done progressively worse and worse with critics, general viewers and, in the case of the cinematic universe, at the box office. I'll leave it with you to figure it out though.

Disney has destroyed star wars! Don't know what you have been watching.

@@BanefulChronicles if you believe that nonsense, you clearly haven't been watching. Kindly stop commenting your petty little complaints. The real ones are sick of your crying

@@pompombonanza How? By giving us the best content in over 20 years? Riiiiigght.

@darkenkil4416 your either baiting or your delusional. This is the worst content in 20 years....I'd say its even worse than obi wan.

@@richiesflicks thanks for the comment and you've hit the nail on the head here. This is exactly what they did with revenge of the sith and its one of the reasons even mentioning the fight scene in this episode in the same breath as the one from the revenge of the sith is abhorrant. But im going to do it anyways. The problem is the way they have set the plot here it could seem contrary to the what i thought the message of the show was if they even tried to do the same. In revenge of the sith anakin and obi wan are arguably of very similar strength both jedi masters and when they attempt the force push they blow each other away showing there's no point using force powers. This is so easily shown in a 1 v 1 fight. The whole mantra of this show is about the power of many. So 8 (or however many useless jedi knights there were) plus master sol all using force powers should have been able to deal with one sith and counter his force powers easily enough. But they didn't. And even if the sith was way stronger (which he clearly is and if the neuter him in future episodes so the jedi can win i might lose my mind) than any single jedi I just don't think it's plausible to say he'd be stronger than many wielding the force at the same time. But that's my thoughts anyways. The one thing I will say is every fan I've spoken to can come up with a rationale or a plot or a way to fix this show which is so far beyond anything the limited imagination of the writers could comprehend that its virtually guaranteed it will never happen.

100%, just by buying it.

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