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Chris Cooke
Добавлен 16 авг 2011
Yamaha FP9-D Pedal Review
The good, the bad, and the pretty of Yamaha's direct drive double pedal.
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New Stealth Rack Ready to Go
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Showing off my first configuration of the Gibraltar Stealth Rack on my drum kit.
Rogers Dyno-Matic Follow Up Review
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Thoughts on the Rogers Dyno-Matic pedal after a couple months of real-world use.
Rogers Dyno-Matic Pedal Review
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Initial observations of Rogers Dyno-Matic Pedal
Had the single chain.: and just got the double direct:.. can't recommend it enough
Lol... this guy....
New comment for an old review. I love this pedal over all my others, be it strap, chain or direct drive. I did, however, replace the chain/cam with a strap/cam assy ( Rogers RP100CAM-SD ). It improved the playability even more. I realize this is subjective but it also comes closer to the original design in that respect. I hope you're still enjoying this great pedal.
I am! I have two now, and like you, I've replaced the chain with the strap, and it's still my go-to! I rather wish they made a double pedal version (not that I need that for many gigs, bit it would come in handy)! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Awesome review
Thanks for this video. The thing with the board is an interesting aspect. Thx.
Still selling pedal or already sold?
Still for sale. Haven't used them since I shot this.
@@CoverBandDrummer how much?
@@medallion39 $525 plus shipping.
@@CoverBandDrummeri have one ..best pedal imo. I would put grip tape on it if I were you. I put speed cobra beaters on it , the added weight carries the beater so quickly with little effort. Good review by the way!
That's why they're called "longboard" pedals. 😂🤣
Well, I would certainly be willing to go with that description having tried them. The confusion is that nothing in Yamaha's documentation or their product description identify these pedals as "long boards." I typically see that term reserved for one piece footboards without a detached heel plate, but these are definitely longer than their previous models. Maybe they need to coin a new term for these! :) Thanks for watching!
I have a collection of pedals, mostly older “vintage” ones. They’re all great in their own way, from a practical standpoint. My favorites are my Yamahas, especially the single and double versions of the FP 860. They’re very solid and smooth, and they just do anything I need. I’ve tried other, more modern and advanced ones, but I always come back to the 860s. The thing about Yamahas is that they have a consistent feel from model to model, so it’s pretty easy to adjust a newer one so it feels familiar. The newest ones like yours are really nice. ( I like the chain drive ones), but they’re priced a bit out of my league for now.
Yeah, I played the FP 860 for a lot of years, which is why I figured the move to a modern Yamaha pedal would be pretty seamless - NOT the case. The differences in the design of the FP9 series are significant enough to make it feel foreign, even after hours of tinkering.
They sure look nice, though!😁
I became fanatic about hitting dead center on a 20" bass drum and initially tried a bass drum riser but didn't like that because the beater hits the head when it is beyond a 90 degree angle which felt weird. Then I discovered the Tama HP50 and the Rogers dynomatic which both allow better solutions to playing on different size bass drums instead of raising or lowering the length of the beater. I first bought the Tama about a year ago because frankly it was cheaper. One problem mine had is there was a lot of wobble where the heal plate connects to the footboard. This caused some side to side energy in addition to the normal up and down energy when using the pedal. I couldn't find anyone else that seemed to have that problem. Maybe I am just OCD. I contacted Tama and they didn't have a solution. I ended up making a plastic washer by cutting up a peanut can plastic lid and put that inside the right side of where the footboard connects to the heal plate. That eliminated a lot of the sideways motion. Of course I also realize a single chain pedal will have more play than a double chain pedal which is firmer. I decided to give the Rogeers a try and just got it a few days ago. It is definitely heavier and has more adjustment possibilities than the Tama. Maybe it is overly engineered. There is very little side to side wobble as the footboard to heel plate connection is definitely better. But two issues I am working through is you can get a firmer spring tension on the Tama and I am having trouble getting a footboard angle I like. I like it pretty elevated as I play flat footed and I am doing a lot of experimenting getting the angle right but not having the top of the footboard so close to the cam that if you just bounce the pedal the top of the footboard hits the cam. Again maybe this is OCD at play. I will keep experimenting and see what I discover.
id take the chain of the sprocket.
Hi, How’s that stealth rack working out? For the idea of losing all the tripods I’m sold. I have old e-drum “1&1/2 aluminum tubing and some new and used Gibraltar fasteners and my stealth practice kit is half complete. Next to buy HiHat and bass pedals (the “Offset double bass pedals?). Of course also snare, cymbals, and drums, ha ha. I’m using practice pads now and house kits to perform. How do you like the stealth rack. Also, the “Offset double bass drum pedals” seem much more ergonomic? What is your advice? Thanks for your videos! Cheerio
Hi! I'm actually really happy with the switch to the stealth rack. It's been a crazy year, but I have a follow up video in the works to talk about it. Thanks for asking!
Buy a Pearl or DW
When/if I break this thing, I'll be glad to check out what the other manufactures have to offer.
They all break or fall apart. Great drums, crappy pedals. I have nightmares about mine falling apart during shows
Wow, it's a bummer if you've had a bad experience with these. But I must say, I have two of these now, which I've been playing in all manner of situations for 4 years now without any issues. Keeping my fingers crossed!
Does this latest incarnation of the Rogers pedal feature The “NEEDLE” bearings in the top tube that the original AMERICAN made Rogers featured before C B S took over and removed the needle bearings?! ( TORRINGTON “B-68’s by the way)! The original “AMERICAN” made ROGERS “SWIVO-O-MATIC” Foot pedal had a smoothness and ease of speed that has not been equaled to this day in any other pedal. Which is why BUDDY RICH kept using his original Rogers pedals long after he quit the Rogers camp and started using other Makes of drums! He always had his trusty old Rogers “Swiv -O- Matic” American made (no Asian parts)!’behind that BASS DRUM ! I’ll keep my original “Grossman” era Pedal Thank you Although I may consider purchasing this latest version of the Rogers pedal because I do like the action of it, and it is smooth as well just different from the original Rogers!
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Wow, this is a good question! I am absolutely not qualified to talk about any original Rogers products, much less to compare/contrast the engineering involved in either one. All I can speak to is what I think of this pedal - but if your classic Rogers gear is still working for you, I say stick with it! Thanks for your insight!
I have a Tama hp50 and also waiting for the dyno-matic to arrive; does anybody had already a chance to compare both pedals side by side? In pictures the Rogers seems to have a longer footboard (I hope so) .. Tama Classic is a nice pedal but the pedalboard feels too small to me. I also ordered a strap/cam kit in order to be able to switch between strap and chain to see which one feels better to me.
Hey John, I did see this drum shop's video featuring both of those pedals: ruclips.net/video/WRcSG6r2ZA8/видео.html While the Rogers is definitely more upscale, the simplicity of the Tama is really appealing, with the sense that I'd need to adapt a bit of "old-school" technique to use that pedal, and that ain't bad! I hope you enjoy your Rogers as much as I've enjoyed mine!
Thank you Chris Cooke for sharing with us this great review of the pedal and for helping aswering my question
I played the old school swervomatic for close to fourth years!!! Loved it! The biggest weakness was the leather strap!! I had like ten spares!
Hi, Is this the greatest pedal ever ? Is it as fast as a Speedking ?
Yeah,, Pretty sure Ringo had all that crap Too.--- Streamline your set up????? Right. Got it.
The new Rogers drums and hardware are fantastic, but I've seen one of these pedals up close, and they're not the best for practicality or gigging. Tama came out with their classic pedal before this pedal came out, and its practically the same type of pedal. This pedal was made for the die hard fans of the vintage Rogers pedals who want something a little more durable with today's technological advances..
It's definitely designed for Rogers enthusiasts, and other than the swivel function of the old Swiv-o-matic, it definitely is high on the nostalgia meter. I don't agree about the practicality of it though. I've upgraded mine to the strap drive since this video was made and even bought a second one, because I'm so much happier than I was with my Ludwig Atlas Pro pedals.
Interesting. That hi-hat stand looks so much more complicated than a standard two-leg stand. It looks like it takes at least ten minutes just to put the hi-hat together. A standard two-leg stand would take about 15 seconds to set up. I like the idea and think you will probably make a few changes after gigging with it a few times.
You may be right - I'm eager to see where I'm right and where I'm wrong! I'll follow this one up with impressions soon!
Hum, streamline a kit that originally used a snare stand, hi hat stand, and two flat base cymbal stands. Not sure it gets more "streamlined" than that. Ringo's look was iconic and isn't part of the "Tribute band thing" to look as authentic as possible? Just my personal opinion.
Lol! I definitely see what you're saying, it does seem a bit ridiculous to "streamline" a 4 piece kit! Maybe a better description is that I'm trying make set up and tear down faster and more consistent, which my previous rack experience tells me is possible. I reserve the right to fail completely ;-) To clarify, we're NOT a look alike style band. "Sound like the records" is our goal.
@@CoverBandDrummer well..sound alike is much different than "look alike"! Have at it then!!!!
What a conglomeration of pipes! You did a really nice job putting it all together. Some close-ups of the snare and high-hat details would have been nice but, other than that, good video. Thanks dude.
Thanks, Bill. I'm planning on doing a follow up video that details how it worked out, and that should allow me to detail the hi-hat side a bit more. It's definitely the side that experienced greater change.
First rack that actually looks very cool!!🥁
Thanks, I thought so too! I was wanting a rack that didn't scream "RACK!", and I think this fits the bill.
I have a 1974 Roger's Strata Blue pearl 5 piece set with vintage 21, 23, Zylgian stamped ride cymbals from the 50s and 70s. also stamped 14 inch hI hats and 10 inch splash Zylgians also 70s vintage. Snare is a chrome over brass Dyna Sonic 500. amazing sounding drums and cymbals that I bought new and have been playing almost 50 years on.
forgot to add all my hardware on my Roger's are original including swivel o matic bass pedal with leather strap instead of chain drive.
A shame they do not have one piece footboard. Made in China junk. Go vintage pre CBS.
I dunno. That wall's held up pretty well :) I'm at three years of playing this thing with no issues.
@@CoverBandDrummer Nice!
Does Rogers make a dual pedal to run two base pedals and the extension bar between them
It does not appear so, after checking their website.
I got mine about a month ago. this thing is so sensitive that I can make notes by curling my big toe. It is too sensitive for an electronic kit.
Chains are used on bikes, you're good.
#truth
Rogers does make a strap that comes with a cam. It is very easy to swap out the chain with the strap that gives the pedal a very different feel.
Cool! I will have to acquire one and see how it feels. Thanks for letting me know!
As for the chain failing in the future, I used to use the old Camco pedal and would unhook the support arms and throw it in my bag. Doing that gave it the same sideways chain that you're worried about. I've never had an issue with the chain doing this so I wouldn't personally worry about it on the Roger's.
See, that's what I need to hear. I loved those old Camco's too - same round-sprocket smoothness. Thanks for the encouragement!
I have a bunch of swivomatics. I can't do the Bonham doubles and triples because of the leather strap so I am using a speed king. Does the chain have a faster response than the leather?
To be honest, I haven't played the orignal swivomatics, so unfortunately I can't give a comparison. Sorry!
Your review was so good, I think I'll pick one up !
Hope you like it! I"m still using/loving mine regularly.
Oh Yeah... That's The Pedal.. Like My Old Swiv-o-Matic.. Gotta Get One ☺😎💯💯 (Hope They Make a Double Version Soon)
looks like a single post camco pedal witch i am a big fan of
I think that's a pretty good description of the thing. A bit more versatile than the Camco, but a similar feel. Well done!
Just received mine yesterday. To your point about storage. You do know you can disassemble the bar as you did to put in a your hard shell case but put it in the Roger's bag with no more or less strain on the chain. So you CAN fit it into the bag with out moving the spring tension assembly.
Just so I'm understanding; you're saying that the same disassembly I do to fit the pedal in my hard case will allow it to fit in the bag as well, correct? If so, I agree that's true, but I don't use the hard case to accommodate the size/shape of the pedal - it's just the way I prefer to tansport my stuff. I'll be eager to hear how you like your pedal, man! Thanks for the feedback!
Thanks for the review. Is this pedal on the lighter feeling side?
From a playing standpoint, it definitely does.
I'm heavily considering getting this pedal. I bought basically the copycat version of this that Tama has put out in the last couple years and I am really happy with it but I feel like because Rogers makes the real deal one it might be a better fit for me to get this pedal. I've been on the journey for the best Pedal LOL. I love super simple pedals. I'm 100% in the philosophy of things always working fast when there are less moving parts. Simplicity is key
Hey David, I think your approach is wise; simplicity is indeed key. I will say, I'm not sure this pedal necessarily qualifies as "simple," since it does have so many adjustment possibilities, BUT, the upside is that once adjusted they way you want it you can treat it like a Ronco Rotisserie - "set it, and forget it!" I got mine at Sweetwater knowing I'd have the option to return it if it didn't feel right (still got it, obviously).
If you like the really super simple pedals, that feel great and Are as smooth as silk?!…. Thenfind an old “CAMCO” pedal you’ll be glad you did!
regarding your "problem".. cut out some firm foam.. so the footboard can rest in that at a height that makes sure the chain has no strain... thanks for a nice review!
That sounds like it would definitely be a solution. I'll give that a try - Thank you!
Glad you covered that click sound from the foot board hitting due to factory settings. It helped me quickly readjust mine and it will be going for a drive tomorrow morning.
That's great, Mike! Hope you like it! I'll be posting a follow up review in the next couple of days!
@@jackstubbington387 You make a good point, although I don't know if that's actually a design flaw or if the initial settings that get it in the box are intended to be changed once set up for actual use.. It may well be a design flaw, but I'm too in love with way the pedal plays with my settings to imply it :) #fulldisclosure
@@jackstubbington387 I've been eyeing that one as well, perhaps as backup. Killer price point on that.
Does the rod of the beater have standard diameter? Could you stick it on any other bass drum pedal like a Tama Speed Cobra for instance?
Don't have an Speed Cobra to compare unfortunately, BUT the pedal itself does also accommodate a beater from a Ludwig Atlas Pro with ease, so it appears that the Rogers beater is standard size.
Thanks for the review! I just ordered one for myself. Can't wait to get it and try it out on a gig.
Thanks! I hope you dig it, Shannon!