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Thanks!

Fun bike, not enough range though!

@AdventuresonZero i guess for what you do your right you need more than 60 miles 🤣

Thanks!

So cool meeting y’all! Told my family about over dinner, they were intrigued! What was your buddies RUclips channel name?

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Such a unique voice

That’s crazy!

I disagree that it’s about cheap transport for most - lots of cheaper options in cars or public transport if saving money/reducing costs is the goal. They are expensive, and the cost will only continue to decline (as with all emerging tech as more companies get on board). Riding motorcycles is inherently more risky than any other mode of transport - people get them because it’s fun to do, not cheap to get somewhere.

It’s 436lbs

Why the Del Mar, of course!! Best bike Ive ever owned with the most fun factor. And Ive had quite a few over the years, always looking for my dream bike. I think this could very well be it or very close to if not.

Awesome!

Good to know

Thanks! It's super convenient having an electric, very simple to operate and take care of. Not all HD dealers service LiveWires, so make sure you check before you go on LiveWire's website.

Are you ok? Need a hug or something? What I’m saying is that there is a time and place where regen braking is efficient, and a time and place where it’s inefficient. It makes no sense to put energy into a battery, only to take it right back out again. If you want the most range, coasting is better than braking.

On electric vehicles. Converts slowing motion of vehicle into energy that is stored back in the battery

Which year is your DSR?

@@AdventuresonZero It is a 2021. Zero says 100 mile range at 50-55 mph, IIRC.

lol thanks!

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Does Tesla make motorcycles?

I’ve gone to many many places on this bike. If you’re waiting an hour every time, you’re doing it wrong. History proves that nothing is the future for very long, but it seems everyone is starting to dip their toe into it. Also, pretty much everything humans do is bad for the environment

Even if I told you…you still wouldn’t get it

@@AdventuresonZerothey wouldn’t know shit even if they are a bucket of it

​@@AdventuresonZeroso it was pointless and you were seaking attention?

@@ginger_nosoul 😆 that’s right, I camped out seeking construction worker attention 😆 you got me

@@ginger_nosoul you act like most everything posted on the Internet isn’t attention seeking behavior because it is next time you feel like posting a picture of the meal that you’re eating on Snapchat think about why you’re doing it and if it’s even worth it

This could have been a great comment, but the critical tone and rudeness got old quickly. Ignored.

I noticed that on one of my trips. Lots of gear meant the bike went faster on downhills for better regen

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Depending on the situation, you’d most likely have better range by timing stop lights to keep rolling through and coasting than using regen. Maintaining momentum to conserve the energy you’ve already spent to get at speed will always net more range than if you used regen to come to a stop and then take off again. You will always take out more than you can ever put back in.

In most cases, whatever energy you regenerate gets immediately consumed to reaccelerate. And you’ll never get back more than you take out. Regen is very effective at low speeds, however anything above city speeds with frequent stops, it’s costing you range by losing momentum. Cars have a little better regen because of their weight, however EV motos not as much.

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I have an old Prius that is like that as well, however battery only lasts 1/4 mile and at 25mph and below

What do you mean?

I think most salespeople like to toss it around like is a magic thing, most of that comes from lack of actual ownership experience I feel. Regen isn’t good for range in all situations, as it takes away momentum. Like all tools, it has its uses

At lower speeds and constant stops, regen is great. Higher speeds you lose (potentially) too much momentum that it costs you more to reaccelerate

@@AdventuresonZero yeah, the efficacy of regen is going to be affected by wind and rolling resistance, the greater those forces are the less energy your regen is going to be able to gather at the wheels while decelerating.

@@larsmurdochkalsta8808 yep, all those physics!!

@@AdventuresonZero yeez

This was right before my MABDR trip, so suspension was already set up for that trip and weight, so it’s a little hard

Travis from GoRace Suspension out of Christiansburg, VA did the suspension tuning for me

I enjoy watching the One off-roading, but definitely not doing it with mine… I wouldn’t mind having an off-road option in my garage though, either petrol or electric, just for developing skills. I’ve had a few small slips under power on the ELW, it is far more stable/controllable when this happens than any road bike I’ve had before. I thought it was the wheelbase, but it is very close to my other bike (an MT09/FZ09) 1491mm ELW vs 1430mm MT.

@@BikesBoatsBees well this is what I’ve always wanted to do. Long way up was my first introduction to motorcycles, so I bought the LW1 with this project in mind. I have some videos of me taking a stock LW1 up a jeep trail, just some mud tires and a home made skid plate - managed it well considering. The LW1/X soaks up the road. 14k miles and I’ve not been able to bottom out suspension

I have seen that clip, before I bought mine. I winced a little when you dropped it (each time😂). Obviously a very solidly built bike. Look forward to seeing more of your adventures.

I found a video a few weeks ago that did the actual equation to figure it out. For the LiveWire one, I would need a road about 220 miles long at a 10% grade to regen 0-100%, assuming 60% efficiency in conversion

And the mountain would have to be 4 times higher than Everest 😂

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Hills are good for it, as long as they’re steep enough, curves as well. Long form of this vid goes over that

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Yep, Energica is ahead of everyone having all 3 on its bikes

Depends on weight and motor, but sounds about right

Not in all situations. If the goal is to travel as far as possible, coasting is always the better technique

@@AdventuresonZero you say not in all situations and then you use that very strong word, "always". Coasting is often not practical or safe in city driving. Of course there's the occasional outlier of a steep grade which requires either regenerative recovery of energy or blowing it out as heat since you lack a transmission and engine compression

Which electric motorcycle do you ride? Maintaining momentum is better than losing energy from stopping, regardless if you captured just a little bit with regenerative braking. You will never put back in the same amount you take out to reaccelerate. Timing and coasting a red light retains more energy than stopping and then re-accelerating in urban environments. If you absolutely have to stop, of course regenerative braking is great, as you're losing that built up momentum anyways. however, the less stopping you have to do in any situation, the better for overall range.

@@AdventuresonZero it's a physics problem. Every application of the service brake wastes energy as heat. An intelligent regen system would probably be the way to go. Changing highway speed from 55 to 45. Of course you'd want to Coast car slows down in front of you. You probably want a combination of regen and service break working in the city where you need to get to speed quickly enough and stop quickly enough. You'd probably want mostly. Regen

Yes, lower speeds like inner city, regen is perfect app for, lots of stopping that you can’t avoid

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What are you riding? In the right terrain, regen braking can certainly add some energy. But in that same area, coasting can let you go farther