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Do you remember when Helen Clark bought in a law banning the sale of spray can paint thinking it would stop graffiti,,,,,, as you can see, it hasnt changed a thing, only got worse. (just like all of Labours policies. )

The rolling stock looks appauling. Graffiti terrible. Iwas just amazaed at the very slow speed, watched most of it at 2x spped & still so slow. Why all the screeching, even on straight bits of track?

Anyone know what is the average speed of the track?, say from Whangarei-Auckland?

There is no northern line mate, shit job kiwi rail get it done. It’s been 5 years

It does seem a bit silly to have a rail system in place not being used efficiently these days, get the trucks off the roads one loco could eliminate at least ten trucks off the highway long distance. Now that should make the greens a little happier.

There's no tracks to kaitaia, 🤣🤣🤣a train pulling nothing but what, 😂😂😂waste of money,a lot of noise for fnuckin all

@@matiungawharau are there still tracks to Okaihau? There is embankment further up towards the Mangamukas but I think there were no rails on it even in the 1970s. The tracks between Moerewa and Kawakawa were taken our a few years ago to turn it into a cycle track, so maybe AFFCO is the most it could practically go, though I'm not even sure if the tracks go that far now ... maybe only Otiria at the other end of town (where the junction to Okaihau is).

To answer my own question, it looks as if the Okaihau tracks now don't even exist a few hundred metres from the Otiria junction e.g. on Ngawhiu Rd near the intersection with Ngapipito Rd you can see the embankment but no tracks. It looks like they maybe still exist in both branches at Wahamiti Lane (there are two tracks) but by the new bridge on Pokapu Rd (630m from Wahamiti Lane) there is northing but remains of embankment. Apparently it was closed in November 1987, 37 years ago.

For the local idiots to cover in Graffiti?

I was askng the same question.... But whatever it is for, it must be dam heavy if it nees this many engines to pull it.

@tomt9543 The lead Locomotives were built by CRRC Dalian between the years of 2010 and 2022, they only operate in the North Island of New Zealand and there are 73 of them The back 2 are DC Class Locomotives built between 1961 and 1967 as the DA class by General Motors Canada and rebuilt between 1977 and 1981 by Clyde engineering Australia

@@kiwirailaction3894 Where is CRRC located? I’m not familiar with that manufacturer.

@@tomt9543 they are a China based vehicle manufacturer they make Trains, Buses and Trucks

Yep China. V20 RR locos if u do your research. Very distinct sound them things. Personally i think they sound awesome.

These fine locos are made in China. Surely you must know that nothing is made in New Zealand. Absolutely nothing.. We cant even make a teaspoon or a coffee cup.

This is because the tracks are old, out of alignment and dilapidated. Even at this caterpillar speed, the tracks are still rupturing.

It is not wheel alignment required but rail alignment - have you looked at them - as crooked as a sheep's hind legs!

3 were left in Whangarei, the DCs for the start of the Kauri Shunt and the DL for Driver training I believe

@@kiwirailaction3894 awesome news training 👍

It would be awesome if they did that I'd take my kids

Would be great. I took an intercity bus in Oct22 up to Whangarei and with the road being very twisty and turny it was pretty uncomfortable. Even if the train was even slower, I am sure it would be better on the comfort side for a start. Unfortunately it's been so long since there's been a regional service north of Auckland, that unlike yourself, I'd be surprised if anyone in the relevant local authorities, let alone the KR exec and this govt, even have the vision and idea to start a regional service up. It's been easily seen that for the Te Huia service, Wayne Brown and AT have been conspicuous by their ambivalence and negativity so it's doubtful if they would be supportive of a regional rail service up north. The best that can probably be hoped for is that GVR who are doing regular rail excursions to the Waikato and Central North island, add trips up north (I know that before the storms when the previous upgrade project was completed they were in talks with KR to do a charter). If they did and those trips were successful and showed good demand, who knows it might actually turn a light on in someone's head at KR/Local govt level, even if they started with a "weekender" service up from AKL on a Friday eve and back on a Sunday aft/eve.

Some stupid idiot decided to scrap the trains that did run to Helensville a few years ago. They could have used them between Swanson and Helensville.

Sorry, the best that Simon Bridges can do is to make everything worse.

@@irvinetam3454 This is not a blame game, it is a question..

I rode out to helensville in 2009. Took too long. Agree a line out there is important but would need a new route

Yeah. But I do think a train between Swanson and Helensville is needed. There are a lot of new housing at Kumeu and Huapai. I guess Helensville and Parakai are growing too.

lol

Well government doesn't see rail good at the moment and if someone doesn't set up something I don't see it reopening

@@RollestonRails because the government is delusional

This useless government wont do anything.

Not gonna happen unfortunately

I fully agree. Get a lot of the trucks off the road.

Train from Whangarei to Auckland is mostly because of cement from Portland from what I have seen.

With Kiwirail announcement to release all of their Napier based loco drivers there won't even be a Napier-Wairoa service.

@@Paul-ik8fm there is general freight and logs too

An EP van is a Plough van normally used on Ballast trains when dropping ballast, but in this situation was being used to carry people to inspect bridges

@@kiwirailaction3894 Because among the 6 cabs on the locomotives there weren't enough seats for everyone

The train was 9 tonnes under the max for a solo DBR, so was definitely working hard

'Loco' myself, 1969 to 1974. Bottom of Sunshine.

Te Huia carriages are refurbished from SA/SDs

I believe they are to be restored, several of these carriages have been overhauled for both the Te Huia and Capital Connection services

When your journey ends at a steel mill, it doesn't look good..

At Mission Bush for Storage for the meantime

@@kiwirailaction3894 good.at least the are being saved.

@@peterbarrett-v9p If GVR get their DC and other DBR mainline certified, they will have the same equipment as Te Huia and could do the same job for Hamilton City Council for a lot less than the millions Kiwirail are charging them. Food for thought. These cars are in excellent condition inside. Nothing more than a good clean and paint is needed for outside. I can see GVR converting a couple of them into cafe cars and with the two driving cabs, have to complete sets for charter and excursions. Unless of course they commit them to a long term contract somewhere . . . . . . . And make a tidy profit in the process.

boy that shit is not for you to say that is my tradition, thank you.