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Hi @enricovilla6312, there are only two ways to put the rockering axles in: flat or 1mm down. However, I got a round replacement axle to try, from the guys at thisissoul.com, which fits exactly in the side with the small hole and sits in the middle of the oval larger hole on the other side. That causes the wheel to be rockered half-way. As long as you tighten the axle well and don't do any crazy jumps, I think the axle should stay in place in the middle of the oval rockering hole.

@@InlinePilot thx for the answer. I had hope for a different option... but this is it. I'm going to look at the pointed axle too, maybe there is way to "fill" the oval hole in the frame and have a better lock. maybe :)

@@InlinePilot is that the axle for the katana frame?

Thank you for sharing what you appreciated! Great to know that being calm rather than overly enthousiastic, and being inexperienced, can actially be beneficial to helping out other beginner skaters. Hope I can find some time to make more videos before having become too experienced to connect with the struggles of those beginning to skate 😄

Jij ook bedankt!

@daniellewinton2398 Usually one powerslide will not cause any visible damage. Unless it's a very abrasive surface, such as rough concrete or old tarmac with sharp gravel sticking out. I had a flat spot from trying to powerslide on that. Wheel wear over time will depend on many factors. Long lighter slides seem to cause more wear than short ones where you put more weight on the sliding foot. Some wheels (often the cheaper ones) wear much quicker than others.

I love my 110s but these look fun.

@@Zig423 My main concert about the 165 frame is whether the 125mm wheel will clear the front frame mount and bolt. You can try to measure the clearance from the axle mounted without the front wheel. To clear a 125mm wheel, the distance between the axle and the frame mount+bolt has to be at least 59mm (that's the difference of the wheel radius of 62.5mm and the axle radius of 4mm). Also don't forget the back wheel. With my trinity frame, the back wheel is very close the back mounting bolt. If the 165mm frame has that mount only a couple mm more backwards, that could hit the back wheel as well. I'm very curious to know if 3x125mm will fit, because being able to use this setup on a 165mm frame could determine my decision for another boot in the future.

@@InlinePilot thanks for that and the specs to work it out. I’ll look into and definitely let you know. If that does happen i wonder if flatter hardware would do it. Or keep my eye out for some slightly worn 125s n hope they worn enough 😂

Exactly, especially because of the rockered setup. I found them vey useful to look it my own skating in the videos too and see where I’m putting my weight.

@@NekoZika awesome you can now t- and powerstop together. Much better for controlling the final stop location. If you want to do a powerslide, it’s easier to start from going backwards, so the forward to backwards transitioning is important. But if you are fine with your other braking and stoping methods that don’t involve rolling backwards, it’s not really needed, I guess. I also just like to learn it anyway, as I had always been very impressed by seeing others ice skating backwards when I was a child, and it seemed so impossible that it intrigued me. So it became kind of a goal in itself for me. And my backwards skills are useful sometimes to save myself from falling when unexpected things happen, such as another skater crashing in to me…

@@InlinePilot appreciate, thank for advice. Maybe if next time i wanna explore more skating skill, i would learn this thing😁

That's such an intersting point you made there. It seems like most inline skaters think the other way around: they want to progress in order to ditch the heel brake. While maybe it's that they're just not ready to safely use a heel brake yet, because first needing to be more comfortable with crossovers and one-foot-rolling. That's why I'm now working on a video about getting more comfortable with crossvers and the heel brake. Thank you for your input 👍

@markh2800 Hi Mark, the CL20 together with the Decode90 frame seems like a good deal. Buying the Decode90 frame separately is almost the price of the CL20 including the frame. But if you really have no use for the Decode90 frame and you have to buy another one now, it doesn't matter how great of a deal it is, of course. I like the 4x90 rockered on the decode90 frame to practice technique and for flat-ground/wizard skating at a clean area. Then the ground clearance is no issue. I'm guessing the 3x125 wouldn't fit on the non-trinity version of the frame. But if they do, there's no other 3x125 rockered frame that comes close to it in compactness/agility. I'm not a fan of 3x110 (as my 42 foot size is large enough to be comfortable with 3x125), and I wouldn't use the 4x90 setup on the decode90 for street or recreation, due to the twigs/stones issue. Hope that helps your consideration.

@@InlinePilot Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences, that's really helpful.🙏 It's such a shame, because the CL20 skates look and fit great (i'm an EU45 and 201cm tall), but the issues with them mean it's better for me to change them for different skates while I still can. Glad you're really happy with the frames and are getting what you want from them though! Keep up with the good videos and enjoy your skating adventure!

@@InlinePilot Hi again! May I ask a bit more information about how the twigs/ stones caused you problems on the 4x90 set up with these frames? I compared the ground clearance between the decode 90 frames and another brand of skates I was looking at, and there is 1cm less ground clearance on the Decode 4x90 set up (3cm versus 4cm). But the 4x80 skates I started on had even less ground clearance (2cm) and i've seen videos of other 4x90 frame set ups that are also low ground clearance, but are still recommended for general use/ street skating. So, I'm curious if there's something specific/ unique to these frames that caused you the problems with getting objects stuck in them? Is it the distance between the wheels as well as the 3cm frames ground clearance or something else? Have you skated with different 4x90 frames that you found better than these frames?

@@markh2800 Good question. Maybe it's not much worse than other 4x90 frames. I have maybe only skated the decode frame 5 to 10 times on cycling paths when I still used the 4x90 setup. Of those couple of times, I had maybe 2 or 3 times something getting stuck in my wheels. One time it almost caused me to fall at quite a decent speed. I could barely keep myself up on the other foot. Luckily there was no oncoming traffic at that particular moment, otherwise I would have crashed into someone. After that, I started using the Decode frame with the 3x125 wheels. With that, I have had many pebbles getting launched sideways, and I have had twigs being pulled in between the wheels, but it has never caused my wheels to jam like it did with the 4x90. Same with the 4x110 racing-frame I'm using at the moment. After maybe 500 to 1000 km of skating, never had any scary situation caused by debris between the wheels. I never skated any other frame with 4x90 than the Decode90, so I can't say if it is much different. But in a video on youtube of someone explaining their experience with the decode 110 frame, he also said that the 4x110mm wheels had the problem of catching debris. So I connected the dots there, thiking that it's because the decode frame extends so far below the upper (4x) row of axles, while the 3x large-wheel setup uses the lower row of holes, so the frame doesn't extend far below the axles. There are also 4x90 frames that go down only at the axles, and have more ground clearance between the wheels. I would expect those to have much less issues with debris getting stuck. Though I don't have the experience to confirm.

Thank you, apparently it's obvious my engineering background leeks into everything I do 😁 Enjoy trying out the exercise!

I don't really see it as a crutch or training wheel holding you back. Ofc if you want to do slalom it's not really possible, but when you're going very fast in traffic i have to say you'd have to be at stoppard's level with your slides to be able to slow down faster and safer than using both a t stop and a heel brake simultaneously. Personally, depending on how busy the streets are when I go out and how lazy I feel ( i feel like i have to concentrate much more when i just have slides as a stopping method) i either go for my 80 s with no heel brake or with my 90 s with a heel brake

I see your point and I respect it. Using a break saves my wheels and its cheaper to replace. Thats the great thing about skating. You can play and have fun and do whatever you want. ❤

@Adam_M_D i agree. Im not sure why I wrote this in the way I did at that time. I should say, you're given a greater degree of movement without it, but there's nothing wrong with using it.

@sergeya Somehow the foot angle doesn’t seem to matter much for me. By itself it wasn’t enough to stabilize.

For me, angle not cause anything. The main part in T stop is how much you can relieve weight on back foot/drag stop. more less, more easy. Bcoz of that, one leg roll really help

Hi Niels, awesome you started skating recently in your 40s. Hope you keep enjoying the learning process. It's very rewarding to see you can learn skills and get better at them. But getting to a level at which to skate confidently takes time, counted more in years than in weeks... Especially to get comfortable with the city environment. But if you keep it up, you can reach most of the goals you set for yourself, if not all.

Yeah this light falls short of illuminating the road. It's good enough to find your way in the dark, but not enough to spot cracks, bumps and potholes in the road in time to avoid them. Something with a reflector to focus the beam (like a torch) is also going to help a lot to see what's coming ahead.

@@InlinePilot yeah, I saw a flashlight with a rectangular beam (designed for cyclists I guess), should be the perfect option

Thank you! The flat and slightly dusty surface of the parking garage is ideal to practice braking, and slalom, and no one around to bump into ☺

Great to hear, happy braking! 😄

Hope it helps, let us know how it went!

@@InlinePilot went roller blading this morning, and here to confirm it works! I was practicing on the sidewalk (London has smooth stone that are in squares) and every now and then I would catch an edge, but when I tried it on the tarmac it worked well! Thanks for the video.

@@kapowshi thanks for reporting back and awesome to hear that it worked!

Yes you can start from either separate brake and add the other. I find it easier to start with the heel brake, just because the deceleration lightens up the back foot. But the other way around definitely works as well, as you can also see Natan's method to learn the Magic Slide that I linked in the video description.

Same here ! I used alternatively T-stop and heel brake, never thought to use both at the same time 🤔 I also used external methods to stop like a mate on a bike with real effective brakes 😂 But it's not very convenient, you always need to motivate someone to go with you 🤣 @InlinePilot Don't you have any balance problems on steep downhill? I mean... With T-stop and heel brake, the foot not stopping is keeping your body weight, so your balance 🤔 If you go with two unbalanced foot with both methods combined in steep curved slope, how do you manage your balance and your trajectory? Anyway, i'll try this, it's interesting 🤔 I really want to feel how it goes 😂 But wait... one thing catches my attention: I think my braking foot is the same with T-stop and heel break 😅 So I'll need to chose which foot will use which brake method 😱 I'll keep all my protection pads trying this 🤣

@@kyw78 I saw you already read my answer about steering and braking in the other thread 😉. It's not easy to learn and I fell down as well, as you could see. So definitely have all the protection you can get 😁. As any other new skill on skates, it requires hundreds of repetitions before feeling more confident with it. But, as I discovered with the T-Stop, active positioning of that dragging foot is possible using the weight distribution between the front and back of the dragging skate. And I guess that people doing the Magic Slide must also be using some similar way to adjust their back foot and prevent turning around during the slide, otherwise it wouldn't be very safe to do at high speed.

@balazstudos3858 Thank you for your detailed observations. Finding things to improve is one of the advantages of making video recordings of your own skating. You're right about too much flex in my boots. I have an extremely low front foot and a narrow heel, so these hard boots are not ideal for me for skating on such a high setup. Due to doing a lot of edge practice I'm okay skating on the 3x125 for now, but once I have saved up some money I'll definitely be looking for a good freestyle slalom boot that fits me better. Then I'll put my 4x110 frame on these boots for much more relaxing skate trips. I have done +30 km skates with the 3x125, just because it gives me the biggest smile on my face of all the different setups I have tried, even with the extra focus and energy that it requires. In the link below you can see that I am comfortable in my one-footed slaloms on this setup. My favorite exercises to train my (outside) edge control are power-pulls and cross-rolls, which are figure-skating exercises. ruclips.net/video/ctZB4PF9Sug/видео.html Since I've already got Trinity frames now, I'm kind of stuck with Powerslide and Iqon. So I'd probably have to choose between the Tau, the HC evo or the TR10. Having a front foot strap or laces that can be tightened in the front will be crucial to get my low front foot locked in. Any recommendations very welcome 😊

Here in the Netherlands the problem is even worse than with hills. We have a lot of canals, so we also have a lot of old steep bridges with bricks, uneven pavement or wooden planks with gaps between them. And bridges usually have a crossroads right at the bottom.

​@@InlinePilotconsider powerslide suv frames

Necessary, but not sufficient. I’ve been able to do one-footed slaloms left and right until at a standstill, for more than a year, and pretty fast, too. But I still couldn’t hold the t-stop on one side for very long. So there’s definitely more to it than just skating on one foot, and my legs apparently were not smart enough to figure it out by themselves.

I am planning to eventually do that at the final stop instead of the lunge turn, to keep it a small as possible. But as Bill shows and says, at high speed it just turns into a parallel slide, which is not always possible where I skate.

@@InlinePilot he usually does a drag stop, sometimes, on both feet to lower the speed before the cinematic power stop action.

@@fknid yes it's similar, I'm just adding the heel brake to the drag stop to slow down quicker than just using the drag stop.

Haha, yeah doesn't sound like much of an improvement if you put it like that 😆 The first difference is that if the braking is spread over both feet, you can keep the front heel wheel rolling while applying the heel brake. And a dragging back foot still has more directional control than a foot that doesn't even really touch the ground anymore. Though, to be honest, I can't really say yet how well it will do round a bend, because on flat ground the braking distance is too short to test that. I'd have to try it out on a steep downhill. Secondly, having more braking power allows a quick speed reduction before going into a corner. It's easy to quickly switch between having the dragging foot or having only the heel brake, so less need to overload the heel brake, allowing to keep the front foot rolling on the heel all the time.

​@@InlinePilotoh sorry, you answered my question here, didn't see. Thanks 😂🙏

Thanks! I kind of gave up on using the powerslide on the street for now. Especially after I tried it once on some really old asphalt with the stones sticking out. One short slide and I already had a big flat spot on my 125mm wheel 😬. Like sliding on a cheese grater. But I was also wondering how I'd ever go down those small arched wooden bicycle bridges with wooden planks with gaps between them. Curious to try them out once I have this magic heel brake fully dialed in.

@@InlinePilot about 2 weeks ago I was skating backwards with some roller-mate, he did a powerslide fully perpendicular (90 degrees between foot) and eat the ground as soon as found a tile edge, I did a soul-like powerslide diagonally breaking and all good, so I think that's the approach to irregularities try to slide the foot in a way that stops while moving over.

@@vie-on-whitte Interesting, hope your buddy was alright after that. So seems like a powerslide could work on regular tile/brick patterns, by adjusting the sliding-skate angle, making sure that it's sufficiently different from the direction of the ground pattern.

Awesome! 😄

For me it was too loose indeed, but my front foot is really low, and the hard boot cannot be tightened at the front. I like the extra toe space, but you want the part between the ankle buckle and the toes to be tightly locked in the boot. I solved it by tying fixed laces in the part in front of the ankle buckle while having the ankle buckle tightened without my foot in the boot. I can now push my foot into the skate without ever loosening those laces and it really squeezes my mid-foot in place.

@TT-rg6yc Indeed, for me it's not really pain but my feet go totally numb after about 50 meters. It's much worse with 3 wheels than 4, and I also find it worse with rockered wheels than with a flat setup. They say that the inflatable-wheels have a lot more rolling resistance on the street, so instead I have tried out a lightweight 13.2 inch 4x110mm frame. It's much more bearable than 3x125mm wheels. And also less tiring due to the stability of the long frame. Should be even better with a longer downhill frame. Powerslide has a 125-110-110-125 downhill frame. That must be the best for bricks. But I'm afraid such a long heavy setup might take away a bit of the fun due to reduced agility.

Thanks!

Thank you 🙂

I have two heel brakes to be able to change sides and have a spare brake in case one of them fails. I tried once to use both heel brakes at the same time. It felt very scary, because I had to put both feet beyond my center. I think it must be possible to rely on the friction to keep you from falling. I know quad skaters can learn to do it backwards on their toe stops and it seems to be the best braking method for them. This magic heel brake feels much safer to me. But maybe I'll give the double heel brake another go later.

@@InlinePilot HAHA im tempted to put the brake back on my ancient salomons. I made it off a 2 meter high quarter pipe for the first time last week on my powerslides next but I still dont dare go down a long bridge. I might try bridges with the heel brake or magic heel brake :) i tried carving on a part of the bridge but i still gain way too much speed. so heel brakes it is untill i can moderate my speed or feel safe with high speed.

@@kingpinda2 definitely interesting how it can feel alright to throw yourself off of a one story high halfpipe, yet terrifying to roll down a regular bridge . I know the feeling. I always assumed the heel brake would limit my freedom of movement, yet I eventually ended up feeling liberated by it .

@Neosublimation interesting, so your T-Stop is actually a perfect T and not an L? Or only at the end? Does that mean your wheels are not turning during the drag? Don’t you get flat spots then? Makes sense that draggjng closer by will be less likely to throw you off balance. When I do a backwards drag my feet are much closer and don’t really have this sideways pull I had with the forwards TStop. Unless I deliberately drag on my heel to turn into the inverted mohawk.

@@InlinePilot I have observed this more closely in the past week. At higher speeds it is indeed an L. But when coming closer to a stop I find the T better. I actually don't know whether the weels are spinning. Probably during the L and less during the T. And yeah, practicing slides (not only T/L brake, but also soul slide) has worn off my wheels a lot.

@@Neosublimation thanks for reporting your findings back here! Makes sense. Of course wheel wear is expected. Flat spots are the worst, so probably you don’t get them because you have an L-drag at higher speed then.