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With the patch notes here, I'm kinda relieved. All we got was a slight damage tweak for the most part, and now we get most of our karas back!

I could see them doing something like making only certain moves suceptible to kara momentum, that's probably possible. So Buster looses the extra range but can kara again, garuda more or less stays as it is, kBMF gets only a bit of the momentum so it equates to old kBMF, stuff like that. As for the inputs.... hell if I know.

do ppl just not jump in that game

this is the way you can ruin someone’s day in 2-3 minutes

i stg all we needed was 3.5 pot with maybe some very minor incremental buffs

Extremely reasonable and logical take. I'm not a Pot player but it seems like the new Pot is pretty reasonable and it's still early in the patch. He honestly seems like a stronger character post-patch, too. Yeah, he's not as high-flying but that's fine. He's a big body grappler.

THEYRE COMING BACK BABY

I believe in a world where Kara armored buster at round start will be judged not by the brokenness of its rps, but by the silliness of rounds ending in 8 seconds.

So all I do is stay hopeful ~ And PRAAAAAY ~

If they're going to give pot back his karas, then they have to reset the range of potbuster, right?

i hope they see some sense and realize that reworking a character twice in two months is just sadistic. and I SWEAR TO GOD if they change up the inputs again I'm unistalling

I only started playing around season three, and I was just starting to really get my Kara cancels down. As soon as they removed them I went straight to dooming mostly because I was frustrated at having something I was just starting to really grasp ripped from me. I understand WHY they did it, I just personally couldn’t come to terms with it. Now it just kinda seems like a lose-lose situation honestly. Arc sys isn’t great at balancing when you give them time, I don’t wanna know what it’s like when they’re rushed…

Ngl I'm going to be happy af when he loses all his armor, it's actually so busted rn. The only issue is players not being patient enough to utilize potemkin's top tier potential.

The thing that really frustrates me about this is that, having played AC vanilla Potemkin as my first tournament fighting game character ever, it felt like they finally put Potemkin back in Guilty Gear after a decade plus hiatus. Potemkin hadn't felt like himself to me since XRD dropped, and was almost a different character entirely in strive. This patch however, across the board the changes made him feel like XX Potemkin again. Fast hammerfall, break, buster being better at interrupting things, megafist being his worst special move, heavenly being cracked, real oki off of basically every hit, and for better or worse Kara cancels not being the core of his kit. everything about him this patch feels like the XX Potemkin I've idealized in my memories. There's nothing inherently wrong with the Kara cancels, and I understand that for a lot of players (probably the majority by volume given how big Strive is compared to older games) the Kara cancels ARE his identity and losing them made him feel incomplete. But for a Gear Boomer like me, removing the Kara cancels and centering him around hammerfall break made him play like what I remember, and I was enjoying it alot. One month and it's gone. Absolutely infuriating. I have been given peak only to have it immediately snatched away by Daisuke's uncaring vision. That's life I suppose. Congratulations to the Kara cancel enjoyers, and I sincerely hope this isn't a monkey's paw situation because the absolute worst outcome here is that NOBODY enjoys Potemkin after this next rework. I hope at least whatever they do to him makes most of the Strive community happy. Goodbye, my large son. It was a beautiful Potember.

Potemkin need the buffs AND karas

Can't help but feel like this is happening because Pot players are some of the whiniest drama queens known to man.

Maybe they should make it so Karas only effect certain moves? With the buffs to Buster and Hammerfall, they could make Karas less effective on them while still applying to everything else like Heat Knuckle

If pot gets karas back with all of his current changes that would make him so overpowered it wouldn't even be funny.

Ngl, I kinda like playing against Potemkin as a zoner now because I don't feel anywhere as guilty as I used to. Sometimes they never get in, sometimes I just die, and both feel mostly fair.

I am scared they're gonna miss the mark too, but oh my god this new pot has been unbareable to play. Mostly due to the damage, can't savor a winning position before it's over, but also because of the input changes and "quality of life" changes. Why. Is. Heat Tackle. A DP INPUT? Why does Slidehead do damage? Why does Heat Knuckle not give oki on midscreen hit at least because it launches to damn near fullscreen? Why must I spam super fast HFBs just to do anything fast? It's like old old pot, but without the enjoyment of your enemies suffering. They just die.

WIIIIIILD speculation, but... Grooves? Or some equivalent where there are basically two versions of Potemkin on character select?

This wouldnt even affect me cause i never was capable of kara cancels in the slightest and i still have a lot of fun as pot

I can't do Kara cancels at all, so this just puts Potempkin back on my "can't play him" list. Oh well.

I honestly just want far megafist back.

Well, they can't let him have all the new stuff AND kara cancels. He would unironically be a top 5.

At this point my fellow Potemkin mains I'm still "ride or die" with this. Fuck it we ballin' to Heaven, I look forward to seeing us progressing despite the hurdles and changes

arcsys, please! i had JUST began to warm up to the new changes. the best we can hope for is something more or less in the middle of both "styles" of potemkin with the more important and interesting options from both ends, but not necessarily the most powerful so we don't just... break the game for everyone else. either that or just... give everything, rename him to Potemking and let everyone else cry in despair,

pot is the lamest he has ever been in strive currently i doubt they can make it worse than it is now

people hated a buffed pot so much that its getting reverted

My take is that you have to look at their whole reason for the previous patch. They explained they wanted more interactions and fewer 2-touch rounds. So to keep Kara's I'd expect they will town down some of Pot's damage (as impossible as that sounds) and simply make him techincally challenging as we wanted.

I feel like if they don’t change flick’s input than that’s just such a slap in the face to the people this very change is intended to appease. Which is me, because I dropped this game when they removed Kara’s.

-strive- devs are not to be -trusted-

they finna revert pot or even make him worse........ it was fun while it lasted

If they want to keep karas and simplify FDB input, really my question is what's wrong with 214S? Win win because it makes KFlick easier and it's close to the old FDB input anyway.

Pot players when their character is nerfed once

MILLLIA YOU HAD BURST!

this absolutely just the corporate way of saying "okay we 'fixed' it shut up now"

I don't know if it is Strive or ArcSys but I love how every time something character specific either gets buffed or nerfed, the opposite winds up happening in practical use.

Ya know what I think? They saw Accent Core Potemkin and thought: Let’s make Potemkin broken again. Wild theory, but Just imagine if they keep everything and give him Kara on top, he’d be a ridiculous menace and I am all here for it.

I was actually thinking, yes, even though a sliding pot buster is extremely difficult to pull off and you should be rewarded for being able to do it. The very thought of a sliding pot buster shouldn't even be a thing correct? It's scary and crazy broken if you ask me, although my opinions can be rightfully ignored since I'm just a very casual player ever since XX. I just think being able to land a normal pot buster should be dopamine enough

maybe they will end up changing flick input back after all. in my experience i would misinput heat tackle all the time before they changed its input, but never flick. hopefully that's what they mean

Has Arc Sys gone public or something? What is with these spineless changes

kara hammerfall combo routes are gonna be insane sheeeesh

My guess is they tone down buster damage and range. Idk about Kara Garuda though. Idk if they keep it a projectile...

They will definitely revert a lot of the new things, but come on you guys have to chose something. Pot buster with armor, more range and Kara cancel. Isn't that too much?

I think gating some kara's behind flick's input is a good idea depending on which moves it affects. kBMF and garuda were the thing people complained about the most on pot and since pot has a harder time moving forward right now, garuda isnt as big of a problem as it was before outside of more specific situations. My guess is that they give back kMF and/or kara garuda and either make BMF worse as a combo tool or change garuda to be less advantageous on block

Maybe they'll realize how dumb they're being with keeping the inputs the same and just change the F.D.B input to 214 S instead of 214 K. It'll still keep the inputs simple and easy to execute without making karas extremely difficult

This is probably massive cope but I hope they revert the flick input specifically, it'll fuck up some of pots most important karas (kPB, kBmf, kGaruda) Edit: I just realized kbmf combos, if they're brought back post patch, might be pretty bad midscreen cuz bmf doesn't have hard knockdown any more (unless they readd it obvs)

I liked the new pot, doing plinks on *everything* was just not fun for my pinky, it unironically got tired after playing potemkin Plus the other changes are fun, I like HT giving oki instead of just using garuda every time and flicking nearly every projectile in the game is hilarious

Definitely felt like a knee-jerk reaction. S4 Pot did not have time to cook but a lot of people were REALLY mad. I for one prefer no Karas and better overall, or alternatively easier Karas....Having to get that added a layer of inconsistency that was pretty frustrating at times and it just kind of put me off learning some routes and tricks altogether