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Tube Sound Comparison - 1950'S 6N2P VS ECC83
In this video im comparing 6N2P with ECC83. Both made in 50's, to be exact in 1958. 6N2P's were made by Reflektor plant. Philips Miniwatt Ecc83's were made in Herleen, Holland. (the famous long plate Bugle Boy)
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Видео

Tube Sound Comparison - JJ VS. NEW SENSOR (Sovtek,Tung-sol,EXH )
Просмотров 1,9 тыс.5 месяцев назад
Showing 2 avaible options of current made tubes, Chose my favorite pieces from both manufactureres and do my standard comparison test :) Hope you enjoy this! Subscribe for more!
Tube Sound Comparison - 6N2P VS. 6N2P-EV
Просмотров 1,5 тыс.6 месяцев назад
This time I'm doing a comparison of 60's 6N2P and 80's 6N2P-EV. Really enjoying this tubes, and IMHO they are as good as Western Ecc83. Hope you enjoy this and subscribe for more! :) P.S. Dont forget to verify if your amp load is 6v on preamp tubes before rolling these.
Tube Sound Comparison - Vintage 12AX7 VS Vintage 6N2P
Просмотров 7 тыс.9 месяцев назад
I got really excited with 6N2P tubes! Finally I can use them after keeping them in my tube stash last 16 months . Im really excited to try different variants and manufacturers of 6N2P type tube. Just from this Voshod 6N2P-EV example I know this is going to be a very fun journey into the 6N2P rabbit hole, haha! DONT FORGET!! To make sure your amp is having a 6v supply before trying these our you...
Tube Sound Comparison.- Modern VS Vintage Pt. II - ECC83/12AX7 (Best of both world)
Просмотров 4,7 тыс.Год назад
In this video I make sound comparison between my favorite vintage and modern combination. In the vintage set I use 3 Philips Miniwatts made in Heerlen,Holland in late 50's and in the modern set I have 2x JJ ECC803's followed by JJ E83CC. In my humble opinion there is no way that modern tubes could be better the modern ones, but it's also the question of price and availability. Hope you enjoy th...
Tube Sound Comparison - Mullard VS. Tungsram ECC83/12AX7
Просмотров 9 тыс.Год назад
Hope you enjoy this another addition to my tube sound comparison demonstration. I like both Mullard and Tungsram tubes and they both work amazing in my Bogner amp. Hope you enjoy, if so give it a like and subcribe! :) Find me on Instagram for cool tube photos. Username: 12ax7ecc83
Tube Sound Comparison - Philips VS. Siemens ECC83/12AX7 (50's and 60's)
Просмотров 2,6 тыс.Год назад
Hope you enjoy the video as much as I enjoy making it :) Both Philips and Siemens are amazing and have amazing sound, a bit diffierent from each other but both one of the finest vintage production tubes. Subscribe for more! Link to instagram - Username: 12ax7ecc83 12ax7ecc83?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Follow me here for cool Ecc83/12ax7 photos and more :)
Tube Sound Comparison - 3 Decades of Philips,Holland ECC83/12AX7 (70's, 60's, 50's)
Просмотров 4 тыс.Год назад
Comparing the famous Philips made in Holland starting in 70's all the way down to 50's. I have 2 examples of each decade and with the combination with Tungsram Ecc83 I will try to provide sound comparison. Make sure you use good audio speakers or good headphones. Hope you enjoy, Subscribe for more :)
Tube Sound Comparison - Ei Yugoslavia VS Telefunken ECC83/12AX7
Просмотров 3,9 тыс.Год назад
Another video on tube sound comparison, this time I'm comparing Telefunken with Ei Yugoslavia. The perfection of German engineering can't be denied and Telefunken's sure hold their fame spot for a good reason, however Ei were also amazing tubes and not as expensive. Can be a little microphonic but if not they shine on their own just greatly. Hope you enjoy this video.
Tube Sound Comparison - ECC83/12AX7 Modern VS. Vintage ( JJ vs Philips)
Просмотров 19 тыс.Год назад
Video in which i compare modern and vintage tubes NOTE; Use hi quality speakers or headphones to listen to the samples. In samples where guitar sound was played only (no bass and drums) you can hear the microphone pickin up the sound of track in the back, amp was set in the same room where i was recording, I appologize for that :) Hope you enjoyed, subscribe for more!
Tube Talk - ECC81 / 12AT7 for phase inverter. (RFT, Ei, Marconi Italiana, La Radiotechnique)
Просмотров 1,4 тыс.Год назад
My piece of mind on using Ecc81/12at7 on the phase inverter position. if you like little less gain but more detail, this is the vid for you! :) Hope you enjoy and subscribe for more!
Tube Talk - Hungarian made Tungsram ECC83/12AX7
Просмотров 1,6 тыс.Год назад
Amazing tube! I highly recommend it
Tube Talk - German made ECC83/12AX7 (Telefunken, Siemens, RFT)
Просмотров 9 тыс.Год назад
Here I have 3 examples of the vintage German made tubes, Im only missing Valvo, but that's definitely on my "will get" list of the future :) Hope you enjoy and subscribe for more!
Tube Talk - New Sensor Corp. Russian made ECC83/12AX7 (Electro Harmonix,Tung-Sol,Sovtek etc.)
Просмотров 3,2 тыс.Год назад
Today I'm talking little about current production tubes that are made in Russia unde the New Sensor corporation from USA. Hope you enjoy the video, find it informative and if you do so like and subscribe :)
Tube Talk - Rebranded vintage ECC83/12AX7. How to indentify your tube
Просмотров 623Год назад
Today we talk about the tube rebranding back in the day and how to identify what you have inside the tube envelope. Hope this video comes handy to you
Tube Talk - British made Ecc83/12ax7 (Mullard and Brimar)
Просмотров 3,3 тыс.Год назад
Tube Talk - British made Ecc83/12ax7 (Mullard and Brimar)
Tube Talk - JJ Electronic ECC83/12AX7 types. Which one to choose?
Просмотров 9 тыс.Год назад
Tube Talk - JJ Electronic ECC83/12AX7 types. Which one to choose?
Tube Talk - Ei Niš Yugoslavia ECC83/12AX7
Просмотров 1,1 тыс.Год назад
Tube Talk - Ei Niš Yugoslavia ECC83/12AX7
Tube Talk - Philips Heerlen - Holland ECC83/12AX7
Просмотров 2,3 тыс.Год назад
Tube Talk - Philips Heerlen - Holland ECC83/12AX7
Ecc83 - Welcome to my YouTube channel tube geeks!
Просмотров 256Год назад
Ecc83 - Welcome to my RUclips channel tube geeks!

Комментарии

  • @Shrebina-kq4cs
    @Shrebina-kq4cs 8 дней назад

    No, the Mullards Don't have "slightly more detail and definition". It's the other way around.

  • @TheMarkingegno
    @TheMarkingegno 12 дней назад

    Short plate tube sounds almost always thinner and more sterile than medium and long plate tube version. Compare always tubes with pretty equal height of plate never a long vs short plate!

    • @ecc8344
      @ecc8344 11 дней назад

      The reason why i made comparison is to point out those very differences you just mentioned. Not everyone knows that, therefore you have an example here.

  • @EpicWinz
    @EpicWinz 18 дней назад

    Although I think the Philips tubes were winners here, I do like the JJ long plate tubes a lot. The long plate modern tubes are certainly decent sounding. In this test, the JJ had a tighter more defined bass response and good frequency extension. Plenty good enough for most cases, but you are right when you say the vintage tubes sound more '3D'. The 3 dimensional midrange of the Philips was very noticeable and awesome sounding, but at the cost of a less well defined bass response. I'm currently choosing tubes for some Pultec style EQ's for mastering and may well go for either the JJ ECC803S or Sovtek 12AX7LPS purely for their linearity and neutrality. Still, gotta love the old tubes though ❤

  • @MINUX75
    @MINUX75 25 дней назад

    the Tube Sound Comparison is not fair. the ECC83 is direct and the 6N2P is handicaped by several contacts more due to adaptators. Anyway, the 6N2P does the work fine.

  • @milanmihajlovic8569
    @milanmihajlovic8569 29 дней назад

    I have both and I prefer Tungsram.

  • @cobar5342
    @cobar5342 Месяц назад

    Both are lovely. Thank you

  • @cobar5342
    @cobar5342 Месяц назад

    I like the 6N2P too and the price remains very favourable Thank you for a very good video

  • @EpicWinz
    @EpicWinz Месяц назад

    The JJ sounds smaller and etches the sound in an unpleasant way. I remember trying the JJ 12AU7 in my tube channel strip. It was unusable. NOS FTW!

  • @EpicWinz
    @EpicWinz Месяц назад

    Tungsrams sound richer and more harmonically complex - to my ears anyway 😂

    • @EpicWinz
      @EpicWinz Месяц назад

      Subscribed BTW ❤

  • @EpicWinz
    @EpicWinz Месяц назад

    Thanks for the video. I needed to hear what someone thought about the RFT ECC83. Now I know what my options lean towards. Thanks

  • @ernestporee3697
    @ernestporee3697 Месяц назад

    Interesting ? Never used JJ tubes , I have a selection of vintage tubes that I swap but for new tubes EH is workable . In my Mc240 I can hear whatever changes tubes make. Telefunken is always nice.

  • @kevins3453
    @kevins3453 Месяц назад

    Just recently got more serious about rolling quality, vintage preamp tubes in and out of my guitar amp and just want to say that I have been enjoying the content of your videos. Good stuff! 👍 So far, I'm really liking the Tungsram ECC83, after using a late 50's Baldwin-branded Raytheon Black Plate for the past few months. Both are VERY nice compared to the contemporary tube makes. Next up will be a GE-branded Mullard I63 Blackburn, like the tube you've shown here in this video.

    • @ecc8344
      @ecc8344 Месяц назад

      Awesome man! Enjoy the tube rolling, its sooo much fun. And the reason i've made this channel is to deliver videos i wanted to see myself when I started to tube roll back then. So here you can have some info and comparison clips to see what you can go for :) enjoy!

  • @user-dr6yg7xq7i
    @user-dr6yg7xq7i Месяц назад

    うん0が出そう

  • @turkeeg7644
    @turkeeg7644 Месяц назад

    thank you for your videos ...I have learned much from your vids.

  • @ferreiraxz
    @ferreiraxz 2 месяца назад

    Top ecc83

  • @sevenhxrecords677
    @sevenhxrecords677 2 месяца назад

    Is the jj sounds good in tube mic?

    • @ecc8344
      @ecc8344 Месяц назад

      Im not sure about that, probably vintage tube would work better :)

  • @omegahyperes96
    @omegahyperes96 2 месяца назад

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the ECC83 has a more lush high end??

  • @ruidedavid4539
    @ruidedavid4539 2 месяца назад

    Very good explanation! TKS.

  • @AudricDenis
    @AudricDenis 2 месяца назад

    Are old chinese 12ax7’s better than modern jj’s?

    • @ecc8344
      @ecc8344 2 месяца назад

      Never tried.. and im sure its not much better. Im not fan of Chinese tubes. They seem to burn out fast and the tone in brittle.

  • @cammontreuil7509
    @cammontreuil7509 2 месяца назад

    Are they direct replacement ?

    • @ecc8344
      @ecc8344 2 месяца назад

      No. Different pinout and only running on 6.3v ..so if you want to use them you first need to verify if you amp heater indeed runs on 6.3. . And you either need to get this adapters that im using or re-wire your tube sockets. When it comes to tube yes.. its pretty much ECC83 with exception that this one has 98% gain when ECC83 has 100%. The gain difference is so small you woudnt even notice :)

  • @arimarinos4464
    @arimarinos4464 3 месяца назад

    Perhaps also do a review of the Special Quality 6Н2П-EB(6N2P-EV) and 6Н2П-EB-OC(6N2P-EV-OC). The latter being the "space-grade" version Edit : I just also watched your 6N6P-EV comparison - Thank you for comparison !

    • @ecc8344
      @ecc8344 2 месяца назад

      Hey! I never heard of those OC? Probably very rare :) do you have any?

    • @arimarinos4464
      @arimarinos4464 2 месяца назад

      @@ecc8344 I do ,but I am in South Africa , shipping is expensive minimum $30 for smallest DHL package to Europe or the US , other countries are more

    • @arimarinos4464
      @arimarinos4464 2 месяца назад

      I would sell these @$25/tube

  • @yaniv-nos-tubes
    @yaniv-nos-tubes 3 месяца назад

    hi. i tried the genalex b759 and it's good for a modern tube very balanced on my 1974x but nothing compares to vintage tubes.

  • @CoquillageCrustace
    @CoquillageCrustace 3 месяца назад

    Wow great demo. I like the better separation between instruments with the Voshods, they are a quieter but it doesn't matter really. Please could you tell me where you found your adaptators ?

    • @ecc8344
      @ecc8344 3 месяца назад

      Hi there! Thank you! :) i've found them on the eBay .you should find it if you type in ; 6n2 to 12ax7" . Cheers, enjoy :)

  • @mikebyrne3682
    @mikebyrne3682 3 месяца назад

    6N2P by far, more dynamic

  • @Azimut_85
    @Azimut_85 3 месяца назад

    To understand the prices for radio tubes in Ukraine, you can buy 6n2p - 1 $ 6n2p -ev - 5$ ecc83 - 18-25$ Price-quality is in the lead 6n2p-ev.

  • @soapboxearth2
    @soapboxearth2 3 месяца назад

    6n2p are great tubes. I have lots of them and I have lots of valuable mullards etc. There are differences but not ones that reflect the price differences.. I build my guitar amps with a switchable circuit so that they can accommodate either. You'll want to ground pin 9 on the 6n2p. It's a sheild that runs between the triodes. And your heaters are pins 5 and 4. Otherwise they're wired like a ecc83

  • @Azimut_85
    @Azimut_85 3 месяца назад

    6n2p lamps have many disadvantages. This is a dispersion of characteristics, this is internal noise, this is self-excitation. I have a large number of them, I like to experiment. Want better quality? 6n2p-ev, 6n2p-v, 6n2p-i. Any of these lamps will be 50% better in all respects.

    • @ecc8344
      @ecc8344 3 месяца назад

      Yes I even have EV's and they sound great :)

  • @jassenjj
    @jassenjj 3 месяца назад

    6Н2П has a very pronounced "airy" sound, very melodic and pleasant. ECC83 has a strong punch, the dynamics sound deeper with your amp. I would prefer the 6Н2П.

  • @linaivanuta5943
    @linaivanuta5943 3 месяца назад

    6Н2П for the win💡💥

  • @Miss_Pixie
    @Miss_Pixie 3 месяца назад

    Ei sound better to me, and didn’t noticed any microphonics

  • @StormtrooperCylon
    @StormtrooperCylon 3 месяца назад

    You forgot the PS Vane factory in China

  • @gregj.gotham4402
    @gregj.gotham4402 3 месяца назад

    I’ll stick with RCA black plates from the late 50’s - 60’s NOS with D shape getter with copper stress rods. Burned in for 24 hrs then thoroughly matched.

  • @cobar5342
    @cobar5342 3 месяца назад

    Great video. Thank you

  • @Miss_Pixie
    @Miss_Pixie 3 месяца назад

    This type of tubes can be used on a Fender Twin reverb? Great video. Many thanks

    • @ecc8344
      @ecc8344 3 месяца назад

      Hi :) you can put whatever you want as long the tube type is right for your amp. Its up to your taste and what can you find selling around :)

  • @24MusicCarats
    @24MusicCarats 3 месяца назад

    So why do the vintage sound better? Is it the material ? The way they were made? Why cant modern tube makes sounds as good as vintage ?

    • @ecc8344
      @ecc8344 3 месяца назад

      Hi there. Yes, better materials were used back then. Just like anything back then was made to last a long time. :) why cant they do that today? Good question, with modern technology they could make superior tubes but I guess thats how things go in this world. Everything has to be consumed quickly so therefore you need to buy again and again :)

  • @ohyesitsme
    @ohyesitsme 4 месяца назад

    JJ's all the way

  • @cdemike7517
    @cdemike7517 4 месяца назад

    Really cool video. I liked the JJs more on the guitar-only tracks, but the New Sensor sounded much clearer in a mix to my ears. I'm currently deciding whether to splurge on some new preamp tubes for a Hiwatt and Marshall which have JJs and EH tubes, so this was really helpful. I know you mentioned your take in another video on the different New Sensor tubes, but I've been having a difficult time finding a direct comparison between the Sovtek LPS, the Mullard RI, and the Gold Lion gold pin (i.e., the 3 long-plate ECC83s from New Sensor). Could be a cool comparison!

  • @Radio478
    @Radio478 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for your videos, regards from England

  • @Barefeet200
    @Barefeet200 4 месяца назад

    I bought two boxes of these about 10 years ago, I think it was Bulgaria or somewhere, before the sanctions and they were not even a dollar a piece if I remember correctly. Built one Champ like amp with them and I prefer that amp to the 5F1 I also built.

    • @ecc8344
      @ecc8344 4 месяца назад

      Awesome! These tubes sound great :)

  • @stefanlowet2189
    @stefanlowet2189 4 месяца назад

    Een Nederlander?

  • @genesisnkaidence8519
    @genesisnkaidence8519 4 месяца назад

    Why do the vintage tubes sound so much better than modern tubes.. I can hear clearly hear the difference in my AirPod pros it’s ridiculous the difference much less my studio monitors.. I’m replacing my tubes with nos tubes in my la 610 mk2 channel strip.. I can’t wait 😜.. how long do these tubes last ? I know it depends but in general sorry I’m new to hardware

    • @ecc8344
      @ecc8344 4 месяца назад

      Hi there. Why do they sound better? Better materials were used back then. And everything was made to last long. Back then people had their tv's and radios for a very long time unlike today when everything is made to be used quick and made with poor quality. Vintage tubes (at least preamp) last for a very long time, some people argue for a lifetime. So definitely superior choiche if you choose vintage :)

    • @genesisnkaidence8519
      @genesisnkaidence8519 4 месяца назад

      @@ecc8344wow thank you for the info.. I spent 700 bucks on 3 Philips 70’s AX7’s one Bugle Boy AT7 and Amperex EL84

  • @Radio478
    @Radio478 4 месяца назад

    Great video thanks from England

  • @iampuzzleman282
    @iampuzzleman282 4 месяца назад

    Would you mix a telefunken 12ax7 tube with other telefunken tubes in a stereo amplifier?

    • @ecc8344
      @ecc8344 4 месяца назад

      This is guitar-tube channel ..so not sure how would that work in stereo amplifier for audiophiles. For what Ive read, people praise Telefunkens aswell in audiophile world as guitar amp world.

  • @Radio478
    @Radio478 4 месяца назад

    Another great video thank you from England

  • @Radio478
    @Radio478 4 месяца назад

    Great video thanks from England

  • @gdanskJam
    @gdanskJam 4 месяца назад

    50s have little more headroom, but 60s seem to have more interesting harmonics

  • @gdanskJam
    @gdanskJam 4 месяца назад

    I've found a Brimar e83cc. Do you know if it's any different then ecc83? Is it still good for a guitar amp?

    • @ecc8344
      @ecc8344 4 месяца назад

      Hi there! E83CC is usally higher grade version of ECC83 so should be fantastic in your amp :)

  • @bowelripper
    @bowelripper 5 месяцев назад

    Hello, how do I know which is the V1 position on an amp?

    • @ecc8344
      @ecc8344 5 месяцев назад

      Hi there! V1 is on far right side on every picture and thats the tube used in V1, hope this helps :)

    • @bowelripper
      @bowelripper 5 месяцев назад

      @@ecc8344 Thanks for the answer, but I was thinking about how to know that with any amp, if it's not marked?

    • @yaniv-nos-tubes
      @yaniv-nos-tubes Месяц назад

      @@bowelripper v1 is the first of the small tubes the closest to the input jack

  • @Ht-ic9qq
    @Ht-ic9qq 5 месяцев назад

    Tungsram is more much better!

  • @danieltambasco528
    @danieltambasco528 5 месяцев назад

    I wonder if one could re-think the differences of tube tone, like if the JJs seem to have higher gain than the russian tubes in the lower registers - why not re-voice the circuit by changing the bias resistors and cathode bypass capacitors? Look at Marshall plexi circuits, you have the same v1 tube providing the first gain stage in both high treble and the normal channel - v1a vs v1b. But both are biased differently and have different cathode bypass capacitors - both channels have very different eq. Why not take an amplifier and re-voice it to give the same results with JJ tubes? Just start playing around with cathode bypass caps and coupling capacitors to neutralize the bass frequencies of JJs?

    • @ecc8344
      @ecc8344 5 месяцев назад

      Because why would you recap the amp to adjust to JJ? :)

    • @danieltambasco528
      @danieltambasco528 5 месяцев назад

      @@ecc8344 it could make sense, right? JJ's are the most abundant available modern made tubes. Capacitors and resistors are cheap - just re-voice an amplifier to give original tones using modern made tubes. Maybe it would fail to do so? I am told not every facet of tone/sound is visible on an oscilloscope - although, nobody is ever capable of informing me what is it about the electrical signal that is invisible to oscilloscope waveform analysis?