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Ik this is late to ask but how do you make that backpack you got on your characters?

Oh man its so crazy when you just know a content creator and can call them whenever💀☎️

Only just got this now after 1400 hours bruh.

I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE HIGHWAY INTERCEPTOR. PLEASE BRING THAT SHIT BACK CHAD.

it isnt possible to get it anymore right ? i cant find anything of it

Now, time to wait for him to remake this video, because of the CQC pack

By the way, do you think you are going to address the new technology guidelines as of late? There is some positives and negatives of the guidelines which both make sense, and also are just stupid. For example, I enjoy the lifted restrictions of Rot droids and for example, but also the recent banning of prosthetic weapons (aside from OOCly owned stuff like Hornet/Cobra blades which... huh? Those are barely as powerful as a knife) and their insistence of keeping crygenic pods restricted despite their release of the Halo pack.

Howdy! Great quality video, your critique & review is very in-depth. Out of respect for the depth, I'm gonna give some responses to what I can. -Misc- The guns you consider filler are guns the faction/milsim people generally like. We try to toss a wide net so every type of RPer gets something out of summer rain, which also means some items are just useless or unappealing for some groups. In terms of the Desperado vs Deputy... yeah I ain't super satisfied with the similarities either, but that's unfortunately all we had time for. We have so much going on that I generally don't encourage people on the team to go back and redo things. So we're just gonna need to get better about variety in the future. This comes on the tail end of the dev team & myself having many long discussions about how we'd like to see the attachment/tool system function in the future. It's pretty clear to us that the attachment system is something people like, but at the same time it adds an indescribable amount of complexity to the code and models. We're kinda considering in future games just having custom textures, colors, materials handle all the "furniture" stuff and letting actual attachments be big aesthetic differences or things like scopes, stocks, undermounts, etc. We're also gonna be dropping 'cyberpunky glowing bits' as a thing entirely, but at least for ATF8 much of this is a case of "the ship has already sailed". -Economics- We didn't intend to trick anyone with adding vehicles to the other categories and starting out the Flash Pass with the ATV. We released Summer Rain on July 5th with the thought it would be the final version of Summer Rain. But many people were upset by the lower amount of items from previous years, the Flash Pass having all the 'good' items, and the lack of a map change. So we hunkered down and tried to rectify those problems with the Summer Rain update about a month later, and maybe try to earn back some goodwill we burned. I think for the most part people were happy with the update, but I understand why someone would feel a little betrayed by what seems like an intentional trick on the Flash Pass having the only vehicle. You've touched on a topic that I think many people haven't taken the time to theorize about - so here's a (perhaps too long) analysis of ATF8 on a meta level. The main problem with ATF8 is that it's a bit of a mess systemically, aesthetically, cinematically. Systemically: adding far too many small features that lead to bugs and at the same time serve to confuse people because it's so complicated. I have fun coding new systems but I think I learned a hard lesson with ATF8 - ATF7 had some complexity too but it was mostly hidden until a player was ready to look for it (accidental success here). ATF8 has everything right in your face at the outset. Aesthetically: an ice wasteland is simply not as popular in media as sand wasteland, and the more washed-out, colder atmosphere is less appealing. Cinematically: ATF7 ~accidentally~ had a story planned for it during development, whereas ATF8 was intended to be more of just an exploration of daily life in the wasteland and the political/social upheavals that would follow an apocalypse, with a story haphazardly attached afterwards. Being on a secluded island compounds some of this problem. Those problems push ATF8 to be where it currently is and where it was really always destined to be: somewhere between 70% and 50% as popular as ATF7 was. Not to mention - the creator of Pet Simulator had an NFT episode that got our supplemental stream item income during ATF7 completely blocked in a roblox ToS update. To add further injury, Roblox's official toy line which gave us a great boost in occasional royalties has ended - and the giant companies that took over that role nowadays only have interest in games at least 5x as big as ours to cut a profit (roblox's official toy line was more communal, many popular & less popular games got toy deals). Two additional bonuses: people expected less of games when ATF7 came out (the game had 1k+ players before saving your character was even a feature) - as well as the fact that ATF7 got a completely unforeseen but colossal boost for a year or so from COVID shutting everyone indoors. There have only been 1 or 2 points during ATF8's lifespan where I really felt like I could sit back and "breathe" because things were alright. This discrepancy is why (for example) Summer Rain was partially monetized, Xmas has nearly twice as many boxes as prior to ATF8, Halloween has an exclusive prop expansion, etc. Another problem is that people ~don't~ actually like attachments as much as whole tools, so we've been putting AT LEAST twice the work into each tool as would go into one in ATF7, for only an extra 25% income from it all. All of this comes together into a bit of a bubbling mess wherein I've felt the need to make some difficult financial decisions that I know burns some of the goodwill we have, just for the sake of maintaining ATF8's income at what ATF7 was doing 2018-2021 with less effort, less products, etc. Why do we even need to maintain that? Because I've got bills to pay and mouths to feed, rent to pay & health insurance is essential but ludicrously expensive. I've got tens of thousands of USD to pay out in developer work (I fundamentally disagree with taking peoples' work to make money from it without paying them). I want this to be a potential career opportunity for the developers someday, so we can all sail on this boat together rather than it just continuing to be the Chad show. But most importantly - I've got ambitions for the future. I want to be able to pay my bills, but I also want to explore more fantasy & post-apocalypse worlds by raising funds to make them as grand as I'd hoped. Working on these games makes me incredibly anxious mostly because I love it so much and I fear one day it won't be financially sound anymore - if I make the wrong decisions it could lead to the collapse of a thriving 13-year-old community of tens of thousands of people, and the partial/full livelihoods of a few developers. The lights guiding me right now are these: ATF8 ~is~ actually doing decent financially, and finally I've been able to learn a lot from the missteps in LOTA2 and ATF8 that I think can make our next games into big successes - assuming we stick the landing. ATF8 isn't gonna be ending this year. I'm glad the Summer Rain mid-summer update was well received, it was one of those few times during ATF8 I felt like I could lean back and breathe. Once ATF8 finally does fade into the sunset, I hope people are able to remember it fondly - in some way or form.

Swarmer Drone isnt Reversed. Lady Cobra is wrong. Another Note, The Swarmer Drone is an Explosive Suicide Drone with the power of a Hand Grenade

so what do you think, the flash pass is worth the money??

The "coachicamin" and "chicksulubub" are personal favourites of mine

flash pass is a Fucking rip off, also the buggy is shit, wait for Chad to say oops sorry we lied, were never going to release a real PERMENANT FREE VEHICLE XD or some this like that.

DO NOT FORGET, THEY FINALLY ADDED THE OMEGA BOX AFTER 8 MONTHS!

why would i play a game where the dev team is a bunch of pieces of shits and money hungry beyond reason

I honestly would prefer that you would actually do something for summer rain instead of sitting there afk grinding for more than a week. Like some sort of mini game where you have to rack up points to unlock items or something.

Unless mine is just bugged (or they removed it), the SR 200 buggy doesn’t come with the gunner seat and roof-mounted gun anymore (which is unfortunate, because I thought it looked cool!) Also, am I the only one who things the Swarmer actually looks better when its the wrong way around? Only when you pointed it out, did I notice the back was actually claws (or spikes?) so it can ramp into/grab/impale things! Here I was, thinking they were fins or something to make it look more futuristic Sad it doesn’t have any non-faction variants though… Me personally, I’ve been using it as a companion for my OC. Instead of using it in combat, its just a little friend for my engineer character (I also got mine for free alongside the Prometheus. I don’t think that was supposed to happen, since I didn’t buy the flash pass, but I’m not complaining!) Anywho, I do agree with everything in this video As much as I liked all of the cool, free stuff. I do think a lot of them should have been paid-for. Something like the flamethrower, while cool that we get for free, definitely should have been something not everyone gets for free, even if it’s locked behind level 750 As for the WWII machine gun, I honestly don’t mind it! Although, I’d love to see some modifications added to it, letting it look more futuristic Say in the lore that somebody found it in a collector’s home post-flash, and tried to fix it up, but misunderstood how the gun worked (since it was only used during a 200 year old war). Because of this, their attempt at fixing the weapon would have improved it, giving a reason for some futuristic, and/or scrappy-looking attachment on a pretty cool weapon I think something like this would have justified it being locked behind a paywall. The same could honestly be said for a lot of the other guns. Giving them a few more unique attachments, giving them some cool lore, and possibly some alternative designs could help in making them worth the price! Anything aside from a gun with 0~3 customization options would make it feel worth buying the flash pass

I think this proves at this point that the lootbox system, aka the box system, as well as the surprise mechanics of the game's monetization system is just only dragging the game down further. The fomo aspects of the game forces new players to be underpowered and weak when they start out, and older players to constantly wrestle with their wallets anytime they want to catch up with a non-existent meta in a *roleplay game*. This shouldn't exist. A roleplay game should allow you to buy stuff anytime without worrying about it outside of events which should give you time to decide "do I really, really want this thing?" Fomo should not be the main factor especially as a pre-order or a grindfest hellscape which only takes up the developer and player's time which can be spent improving the game and engaging in roleplay.

just finding out? after the flash was a cash cow ever since deep six from memory, the scrap currency for example only exists to trick you into buying something for a whole lot more than it really is worth because the low amount of scrap needed to purchase tricks your brain into thinking its not actually that much, this is a real business and outright predatory trick to get you to pay

I honestly would like it if Flash Pass wasnt a limited thing, I was going to try and get the swarmer drone, but after this point im not even going to try because if I was on PC i would be grinding everything out, but since my PC stopped working, I have to do mobile, and even then, its hard to SR and Flashpass grind. I do hope Chad changes his mind about the Flashpass so its not a total bank for your buck, but even if he doesn’t i guess thats okay.

I made a pretty cool X14 variant that I built after the paradigm that turned out really well

7:22 i think it's pronounced kho-chi-ka-meh Edit: 8:27 as val, my favorite (or my belove)

still waiting for 3d spawn room map

It’s not about the price it’s about the time. I’m not going to waste 50 hours for one stupid thing. I’d rather spend 15 bucks on packs or something then wait for hours upon hours.

I don't know if it's true or not, but I remember hearing a few people say that Chad said a long time ago he would never make something like this paid for. The Flash Pass is what I'm talking about, and it feels like a really shitty battle pass for a game that's not even a FPS game.

So, I didn't get something: are the vehicles free during the summer rain or forever? I know there were two buggies that unlock at levels 200 and 1000, but I can't tell if it's SR or Base.

Can definetly see what you mean by ATF not being profitible in my eyes they only did Flash pass this year to make up for the losses of both 4th of july for awhile and not having Valentines this year

Also, I'm starting to get tired of the 1:1's that have little to no creativity put into them. The EF-90, the one You see in ATF8, is exactly like the EF-90 in real life. [Which spoiler alert: Looks the exact same] It genuinely feels like they put no thought into it, and just pasted it into the game then and there. Also, much of these 1:1's would've changed in design. Also, much of these 1:1's are a missed opportunity to have originality and uniqueness added to them. Forgot to mention, but I thought of it and 1:1's aren't exactly a *bad* thing, it just depends on how its done.

Oh yeah, another thing, Vort or one of the developers said something about either saying the contents inside of the boxes next Christmas, or just outright removing them.

Cheese added yet?

This reminds me of the Easter Island back from 2022/2023 where we could get the Superheated Cleaver.

What bugs me is that those who are high up in the development team with writing and storytelling just straight up ignore other people and only focus on the main factions. As an individual player, you will have no effect on the story whatsoever unless you get a high rank in a faction somewhere which from the time and dedication you need to put into it, is not worth it. On top of that, chad's money grabbing habits are still very much evident with this release of after the flash. You can't even get vehicles without paying actual robux for an overpriced gift box for them which makes me absolutely disgusted. If you haven't stopped playing ATF yet, i suggest you do. ATF is not worth your time.

uhhh couldnt you give the code to the discord server

i bought it all

What's the clothing name on 1:15

I still cannot believe how these devs spend their times writing nonsense lore for the game and yet take 1 month and half to release a mystery box with a musket and a flintlock included, they really do think the lore is important to the game, when nobody truly cares about neither does the USRF give a dang to it

How tf do u run Learned how i had shift lock on

Southpoint leader here: When I took over Southpoint in February of this year, the faction was in a deplorable state. I had been a CR for many months prior and witnessed firsthand the rapid decline. It reached a point where we couldn't even gather proper attendance for our story hosts-barely managing to muster 10-15 people. These numbers were dismal, and it's a miracle the faction survived that period. Our MR+ team was bloated with people clinging to their positions, resisting any significant reform, and forcing the faction into stagnation. By the time I officially became leader, I had already been running the faction as the de facto leader from my second-in-command position for many months, pushing for meaningful reforms with little success. During the first few months of my leadership, I focused on removing unnecessary elements from the faction, optimizing it, and trying to attract Flashstormers, but again, with limited success. When the ATF staff team initially approached me about the story they wanted to pursue with Southpoint, I was hesitant and rejected their ideas. However, after Chad personally reached out to me, explaining that I would have full control over Southpoint's decisions regarding the compounds and how they interact with the Marrow (which we’re currently developing to give our LRs more identity), I saw the potential. I’m proud to say that the Biomass event, along with the Marrow and the Compounds, has played a significant role in revitalizing this faction. We went from meager host attendance to massive turnout, with a ton of attention on Southpoint. I was and still am happy. Southpoint's turnaround wasn't solely due to the Compounds. Every decision made for Southpoint since February, including story elements, was entirely my own, and no one on the ATF staff team forced me to take those steps. Removing sects was my decision because I believed they represented a bygone era and contributed to the faction's stagnation and descent into CRP chaos. If you attended any hosts before December 2023, you would have seen how easily every single host could be derailed under the pretext of infighting. I think the video has some valid points that I agree with, but this was my only issue. Overall, it’s a very good video, and I’m looking forward to more.

very nice

This game is dog shit , ive seen furries using a tank and mods let them because they were merchants, FIX YOUR DAMN GAME CHAD

Getting people on roblox to roleplay in a fascist faction is one of the dumbest things a roblox developer can do.

Was this an event?

I play as a mutant most of the time while I play ATF8 I agree that the biomass, this time around, just felt lazy and not completely fleshed out like it felt back in ATF7. The whole race war also just felt rushed, especially with the "unknown imaginary people" thing. I wish some real small faction or group of people could've been involved instead. I don't enjoy having to rp arguments with human characters because of my oc's race. It's repetitive and starts to get boring after a while.

this is fire!!!!!!

I still really hope they give us a Biomass awakens event main menu, that was peak for ATF7

nice Video Man

How do you manage to find retextures for everything like that gasmask and toolbox. and where can you even find these accessories?

+ originally chad strictly said biomass wasn’t going to be apart of 8 anymore, but just like the prop placer update he went insanely back on his word

i wanna make a dog

technically mutants arent a species because, assuming they are fertile, halfbreeds exist. if two of a different species with similar enough bodies (e.g tiger and lion) breed, they can make an infertile offspring. If a human and a mutant bred and produced a halfbreed, that would mean they aren't different species.

Despite its downsides, ATF8 has a pretty good character maker. Like, holy hell people get creative with it.