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@@shooterray8160 Hey, Ray! I thought you did a really good job of ROing stage 1. The timer thing is an equipment issue, not anything wrong that you did. I do think that a match with a prize table should be using timers with the review working - we've all had the odd timer pick up a chamber closing or a bump on a gun or prop. Jeremy and Joe are both top shooters, they both deserve their wins. I'm using both of them getting on the clock coaching as examples of how coaching happens regardless, it wasnt punished here, it isn't often (ever, in my experience) punished at other major matches for multiple reasons, and I don't think we should pretend to punish it. We live in a world of Bluetooth phone connected sound amplified hearing protection. I can hear people behind me talk when they think I missed a target, and I usually wear traditional earplugs. Coaching is happening, if the match is not going to enforce the rule then why not approach the question from a new mindset? Maybe a coaching division? Maybe an extra attaboy for the top "non coached" shooter? A raffle ticket to the shooter on every stage that an RO certified was shot without coaching? Just ideas. The sport is in decline, we basically can't lose any more shooters. Which means we got nowhere to go but up! 😃

Unless your game has a very strong tradition, understanding, and fully explained rules around coaching (Ex. Uspsa) I think it's dumb to kinda-but-not-really outlaw it. A division where it is allowed is one solution. Regardless of the rule, a rule should be enforced, though, and this rule was not being fairly enforced. Which is kinda the worst case scenario.

People allowed to shoot for no score after a Match DQ is odd, but it was offered to one sponsored shooter (who had an equipment related ND) and some shooters from A Girl and A Gun. I presume it was offered to all the people who DQ'd.

@@mygoodnamewastaken9837 the one that was allowed to continue from AGAAG was from a stage DQ from shooting a car door. It was just the Stage DQ, so not sure about the others. Ultimately, that is up to the sole discretion of the Match Director...and I've seen that discretion in multiple matches in multiple areas.

@rodd8608 If you're looking for decent matches in north FL I'd suggest SAPSA and SEPSA held af Tangodown or swinging down to Volusia on 95, it actually doesn't take very long. There isn't much multigun in this half of the state, unfortunately.

@GuacIsExtra99 Just a touch north at Saltwater, yes. Depending on the type of match you're looking for maybe a USPSA match like SEPSA or SAPSA at Tangodown, or a steel challenge at Tangodown would be a good choice to start learning competitive shooting. If it's easier to head south for you, Volusa Gun and Hunt Club has nice USPSA and Steel Challange matches as well. If you want to do rifle Gainesville has some great PCSL carbine matches run every few months by Gainesville Practical Shooters. If you're North of Jax check out the matches at 17 South Rod and Gun Club near Savannah. I hear Brunswick GA has USPSA matches as well, but I haven't been. If you're near Orlando there's a good carbine match held at CFRPC.

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I need to state for the future record that I am in good health and I have never worked for Boeing.

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Valid points! My word choice when I mention "newer shooters" is, truthfully, a way for me to say "less skilled shooters" in a diplomatic way. There were very experienced shooters who, for example, shot poorly on stage 10's array of ~30 pistol targets leading to yada yada yada you get the drift. I love 3 gun and I want it to succeed and grow. I agree that 3 gun has a tradition of poorly uniformed rules/stages, and I think that tradition is very high on the list of reasons why 3 gun shrunk/failed/continues to shrink/fail.

I agree about the venue, it has a great mix of long range, bays, and natural terrain options. It also hosts a large amount of clays/skeet/trap activities and I think that equipment could have been integrated into some fun stages. The match command really seemed to be making rookie mistakes. I know it wasn't their first match, but you could have fooled me into thinking it was.

I think the match directors in the area swore it off for logistical reasons. Literally the closest 3 gun match to me is about 4 hours away outside Tampa, and those matches don't seem to be on practiscore so I'm not sure they're still happening. The next closest one would be Atlanta 5 hours away, according to what I can find.

2:04 I use my outrage to power through. ruclips.net/video/bUXexAvg_eE/видео.html I don't mind "qualification drill" style stages, but they certainly aren't dynamic. In the context of a smaller faster mini match, ruclips.net/video/ta_myupIJm0/видео.html AR supremacy? What are you, a rich man or somethin? In this economy if it don't fire Tula 9mm can it really be called America's rifle?

​@@mygoodnamewastaken9837 > In this economy if it don't fire Tula 9mm can it really be called America's rifle? Look at Mr Moneybags over here, too good to bring an atlatl to a match. Thag didn't need any explosive powders or metals to win the IPSC world title in 2000 BC.

Thanks! I love the idea of an evening or night match, I can get down on some goonin' with the goofin'. In fact, I might fire off an email to the match management there and see if that's a possibility - heck, I'd even volunteer to run the thing.

​@@mygoodnamewastaken9837Greg put one together this month at TDSA. I don't know if he did it because he's a shooter and wants to be more comfortable, or if it's because he's a doctor committed to saving lives. Probably both.

From what I can tell, very rarely. The two main people who run the match mentioned something on the cadence of 1-2 times a year. When they do it is communicated via the Practiscore registration, where the title and descrption for the regular monthly match changes to communicate a 3 gun option. The pracriscore club link is: practiscore.com/clubs/north_florida_2_gun

My pronouns are Kramer/wildcard. Ok! So that drum... I don't know how to describe it, but on post game inspection the Magpul drum sometimes puts huge pressure on the first couple of rounds. It's super weird, but sometimes I can push number 50 out with a pinky. Sometimes it's SUPER stiff for several and prevents the bolt from fully seating, in typical 1960s bullshit fashion. I have no idea what causes the difference. Even unloading it manually I get waves of spring pressure that come and go from different rounds throughout. I suspect that, perhaps combo'd with a rachet position, has something to do with it.

Yeah, it is rare and the GTR match does not use them consistently - it's stage by stage. But to make things worse, they don't buy the old USPSA targets that have a marked B zone either. So being scored a B for less penalty on a shot that would otherwise be a C depends on: the person scoring knowing that it exists, the person scoring correctly remembering that it is in effect for that stage, and the person scoring making a judgement call on shot placement in the B zone that isn't marked. I think a B is +1.5 sec penalty at GTR while a C is +3, so it can add up.

I missed you at Vortex, hope the new baby is doing well! Also, I am SEVERELY tempted by that Magpul drum, and you're exactly right that it's been occupying my thoughts for days now. The holidays are coming up though, and I've been told I'm hard to shop for.

​@@mygoodnamewastaken9837 Wish I could've been! Even if it was a little less insane than last year. You have any videos of that coming up on your channel? And get some kind of drum. If not a magpul, how about a good ol beta mag?

@@andys6905 Indeed I do have a vortex video, I posted it about a week ago :-D A beta mag?? ruclips.net/video/RBHZFYpQ6nc/видео.html

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Practiscore says I have 29 seconds of penalties for the match, and this match used scoring that was something like c zone +1, d+3, miss +5. I just put my penalties in seconds in the video. Stages 1, 5, and 6 had limited rounds, binary hit/miss paper, and/or limited time that added plenty of pens. For example, stage 1 pistol was limited rounds, mandatory reload, and a paper target with small scoring area. No one shot a clean match, I think I did ok all things considered. And yes, this is the month of Dicken drills! As trendy as it is, I actually don't mind short stages that focus in on one skill. It's hot out, y'all

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Well, led by their dark Lord Lucas they introduced cinematic trilogy disapointment to the world.

@@mygoodnamewastaken9837 Luckily the 3 Ninjas trilogy was there to remind us of true greatness.

I remain hopeful that the first place finisher will be caught in a doping scandal or an Amber Dempsey style act of God, thus promoting me.

I didn't realize until literally just now that my commentary on the video just disappeared sometime during the edit or upload. And nothing of value was lost.

The divisions for multigun could use a shake up, and with carry optics exploding for USPSA I think slide ride and shotgun dots in Tacops would be fine. They already allow (and thus kind of require) LPVOs, offset irons, 'stendos and drums, a pole vaulting 12 round shotgun, and assorted specialty gear in tacops - so I'm for it. Its possible that the new demand could spur along some cool new products to market too. I have other things I think they should allow as well (mag fed pump shotguns), and entire divisions that should be replaced (heavy) but thats a seperate rant! That mag went RIGHT into the sand, and I don't clean guns! lol

Haha yes, just the one FTF. But thats after I've ditched 3 other mags for the same reason - this made the 4th. Thank you!

It's the superior scoring system! 1-A or 2 anywhere adds options! Freedoms! This is what the founding fathers would want, dammit! Thanks, I had fun at this one.

So! The RMR is currently zeroed at 30 yards with the dot being about 4.25 inches above the bore - I intended for it to be goodish to 50 yards and this zero puts hits ~3" low at 10 and ~3" high at 50. I could zero it closer, but with 4 inches to overcome you're just going to have offset at a lot of the under 50 yards close ranges you want that dot for. You have a good idea, but I'm not sure I want to use the 4x or Bindon aiming for 40 yard shots. The real solution is offset low mounted dot, AKA "throwing (more) money at the problem". Looking your way, Greg!

Credit to Corinne Mosher for showing me that! As a spiritual Slav, I distrust straight insert magazines and I will move to California and die before I down-load a magazine to 28.

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