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@@JeffGeorgalas Thank you for taking the time to write that, I sincerely appreciate it.

I'm not as familiar with those, but have no concerns. I think that would be an excellent choice. Edge Touring means you'd get an updated suspension, both front and rear. The "Edge" suspension was the best in the industry before the advent of "rider forward" chassis designs. Those are really flat cornering and handle the bumps as good or better than anything before it from any manufacturer. As far as the engine goes, it's still the same Liberty 600. Polaris used essentially the same block for the 600 when they switched to fuel injection, even though they changed the name of the engine when they did that. To me, that's proof of how good the engine was/is - it took a long time to develop something better. Depending on price, of course, you can't go wrong with a sled like that - it will just keep running and running.

@@ponycarfan awesome good to mow it's a good machine only 2200 miles and it's only $1500 will get today

Great question. As a general rule, always match red-to-red and black-to-black. Depending on the age of the machine and if anyone has repaired those wires in the past, it's possible that both wires will be black. In that case, you'll need to trace them back to where they came from. A battery cable that goes back to something that looks "electrical", like a starter solenoid, will be the red positive wire. If it goes back to something bolted to the steel frame, then it will be the black/negative wire. I don't recall where the Sportsman's wires go, but that's a general rule of thumb for virtually any engine that has electric start.

That sucks. Are you wearing a balaclava? I wore the Fly Ignitor Air under the 509 helmet and that seemed to help. Otherwise, if there’s still too much pressure on your ears when wearing the helmet, try removing either the ear cups or the air bladders underneath the ear cups. Those are just held on by Velcro. The air bladders have little air hoses attached, but those are way to unplug. Worth a try, hope you can figure out how to make it fit better.

@@ponycarfan I tried the balaclava with no luck. The helmet itself just crushes my cranium and the rubber rims forcefully grab a hold my ears. I even noticed that my ears were bruised for a few days afterwards. Besides that, my bottom half was actually a perfect fit to this size. Disregard 509’s size chart. I definitely recommend getting a helmet that’s one of even two sizes larger. The website says it’s designed more for oval-shaped heads, but I’ve noticed the helmet has been more forgiving for riders with a more round-shaped head instead, despite it pushing their cheeks together as seen from various RUclipsrs. Truthfully, for any rider, it’s a hit or miss when it comes to the fitting of this helmet. I have an oval-shaped head, and like I stated, the original size I put on had already fitted to my lower half perfectly. I know for certain that if I go one size up, the lower half of the helmet will be too wobbly due to slack.

The season was so short that I never got a chance to try that.

Your video was a game changer for me .. seriously as trivial it sounds, I was about to give up on the helmet for this very same reason .. thanks again

Thank you! It was terrible all over, which is very unusual. I spent a few decades snowmobiling in SE MN and when the snow is good down there, I loved it. The problem has always been that you never know. Northern MN should in theory be better off, but it wasn’t this year. I believe it will bounce back next season.

I can understand why you’d say that, it does look aftermarket. However, Polaris offered a longer skid to accommodate a 133.5” track and the extended tunnel on the Trail Deluxe - it came from the factory that way, believe it or not. On the original Indy chassis, other models were offered as an “SKS”, and it was the same thing. www.vintagesnow.com/Polaris_files/85%20models.pdf

@@ponycarfan Wow, I would have guessed that was an aftermarket Frankenstein job. Good on you for knowing what your were getting in to. I would have bailed on that one.

Good point! Can-Am did a great job on the new Outlander

I hadn't really given that much thought. From last year's photo shoot until today, every Catalyst I've ridden does that. I'm not sure if it's related to the new belt drive (that replaced the chain case), or if it's on the other side of the drivetrain. Congrats on the new sled!

Thank you for that info!

Thanks for the extra details, very helpful!

That's kinda what I was thinking. Pretty inexpensive to give it a try.

Thank you very much! Any requests?

There's something magical about that 998 Turbo, but I think you made a great purchase.

I agree. Let's hope there's more snow next winter.

I've been thrown from a sled but never injured. The last few years, I've wondered if I should be wearing one anyway.

I think I am, too. And for the same reasons. I'm not sure if it offers enough protection but certainly more than having nothing.

@@ponycarfan On the 509 site the reviews are very positive

Thank you!

That's awesome! I have a 1.6 Cobra on my 21 Riot and it's a good track. However, I think the 1.35 is a better fit for majority trail riding (which is what I do). Compared to the ProCross Riot, the Catalyst platform is unbelievably better. The 858 is going to be a great engine, too. Thanks for the advice on the chest protector, that's kind of where I'm leaning.

@@ponycarfan I bought the 2024 ZR600 137" ATAC Catalyst and was able to put on 1050KM this weak winter. Only 2 things I needed to do was upgrade the carbides (6" Woody Slim Duallies) and adjust the limiter strap to the middle hole. Super fun, light and zippy sled. Love the 600 motor for trail riding. Can't wait to ride the 858 Riot with the 1.35" cobra track.

@@ponycarfan current fleet: 2010 Z1T LXR, 2016 RS6000, 2019 Alpha One 800, 2024 ZR600 ATAC Catalyst and 2025 858 Sno Pro Riot Catalyst on order.

137 ZR 600 IFP - it's pretty basic, but I like the Catalyst platform a lot.

509 makes a version of this helmet for street, and it’s called the Mach V. You can get that either with or without the Cardo integration.

@ponycarfan thanks. Do you know if the 509 ignite 12 volt battery will work with helmet?

Great question! I’ll see what I can find out.

I know some were cancelled this year, but this one had enough snow for a trail ride. I hope to never see another winter like this.

We had enough to make riding worthwhile. It was light and fluffy here, and with no base underneath it, it felt like I was riding on a parking lot - nothing for the skis to grab onto. However, it was still fun and I’m glad Mother Nature gave us one last chance. Melting has started and it sounds like this will all be gone in a couple more days.

Ouch! Not good!

Congrats! The Catalyst Riot is a good machine. You'll appreciate the overall ergonomics and the super light weight "feel". Every time I go from my 21 Riot to a Catalyst, it's instant relief, so much easier to stay flat in the corners and feel at home on the sled. I love my older Riot, but the new catalyst truly is a game changer for Arctic Cat. One of my buddies from the Catalyst photo shoot bought the exact sled you have and loves it. He went out to Wyoming this year and said it did a great job off-trail, as well as on. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.... I think the last Arctic Cat sleds to get an actual toolkit were either the 2019 or 2020 model year - nothing since then. The only thing you get is the L-shaped bolt for changing drive belts. I come from the old school of sledding, where anything could - and often would - break on a snowmobile, and a toolkit was a lifesaver. So, I built my own toolkit for each of my sleds. Fortunately, except for a 10mm wrench to tighten the handlebar riser, I haven't needed much for tools on the snow. But, I'll continue to carry a kit, just in case. Unfortunately, the other thing that's missing on the Catalysts is a rear storage bag, so there isn't even a place to put a toolkit (from the factory). I bought a 17L tunnel bag, mainly because it fits up tight against the seat and looks "factory". Let me know if there's anything I can do to help your transition. I think you'll be very happy with the Catalyst.

@@ponycarfan Thanks for the information. We are in a winter storm watch in the Black Hills so maybe there will be enough to ride it around. If not I’ll have to wait until next winter. Fingers crossed with the El Niño going away the weather patterns will be better next winter.

There isn't a bag there under the seat any more, it's just an indentation that looks like a compartment. The seat release is back there and is blocked by the tunnel bag I have. Some of the accessories don't block it, though. However, since it's a quick release latch, it's still pretty easy to access the battery under the seat if needed.

Back in the old days, skis were steel and the ski loop was also steel. You could bend a ski loop, but it wouldn’t break, so that made a good spot to hook onto to tow a dead sled. Now that the skis are plastic, you never want to pull a snowmobile by hooking to the ski loops. You always want to hook to steel or whatever is strongest. Depending on the kind of tow strap or rope you use, you can run through the ski loops as long as you actually hook to steel. That will make the dead snowmobile follow the tow sled. But, if the rope is too short, it will put too much pressure on the ski loops and could break them. So, in that case just hook to the ski spindles. In summary, with plastic ski loops, always hook a tow rope to something steel like ski spindles. They are much stronger than plastic ski loops. Does that make sense? Next season, try it with a buddy to see how it works.

@@ponycarfan Thank you for the explanation, I will try it sometime next winter. One question that I have submitted is how to start a snowmobile when the electric start is not working. I have seen videos for using a rope on the primary clutch. Those are for two stroke sleds. My ski doo is four stroke and I am trying to get an answer for that question. Thanks again