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They should just switch to Unreal Engine 5 and Meta human for the characters for some of their games like EA FC.

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i still miss the game , for me it was 1 of the best . RIP

hon was much better than early dota 2 and it wasnt even close. if they didnt literally release early access pay to win heroes it might still exist (outside of private servers)

madden and CFB 25 is trash cause frostbite

I started when i was 14 also but now am 29 years old i dont want to lie being one of the esport player is not something for any one it is very difficult to get there road is indeed not clear there is too much barriers 😢

Moba games are going down becose they era is end. Not only HoN but many others like Heroes of The Storm. Only 2 biggest remeins. People go playing battle royales and hero fps games, extracion shooters. It is what it is, trends are changing.

No wonder some fans are salty

Blake Jorgsen was very open about the companies efforts to move ALL development teams to the frostbite engine. The fact the 1 studio refused it's corporate overlords is a testament to the leadership at that studio. My guess is, respawn was a newer acquisition by EA during the frostbite push, as a result the leadership structure at respawn would not yet resemble EA's awful corporate culture. To say the the EA execs didn't force frostbite, is to say that middle managers don't try to suck up to their bosses, or to say EA is a highly functional corporation.

I miss my dw, pandamonium, devourer, and maliken days. Ding ding ding mf

Fifa17 is a good game and it was the first using frostbite engine with the fifa franchise. It is 1000x better than next iterations... so frostbite may not be the main culprit with EA games being so bad now

+1, totally agree (im esports player and coach for about 12 years), im glad i played with and coached players and teammates and today they are in a pro ladder makes me proud of them and myself. <3

While developers do care about the game, their bosses often don't and actually just want consumers' money

Not releasing HoN as F2P was biggest mistake ever made.

This is beyond true. For as much as people praise indie, mostly for good reason don't get me wrong, but most stories involve small studios almost getting bankrupted if they didn't get a hit, Pal World is a good example since the devs of that game needed to switch engines mid development so the fact that game came out as well as it did IN BETA!!! Is insane, not only that but they still may be under fire from Pokémon over brand confusion. And although no man's sky is a different scenario, when that game released to the public eye hello game's reputation was in the gutter and had warped the studio's intentions when they honestly wanted to make a fun game and their efforts paid off since some people are saying that the game is better the starfield in terms of space exploration, environment etc... Of course, this does not fully pardon the business side of AAA and AA games like you said with fallout 76 and cyberpunk sadly, but I don't think people really understand what they are dealing with either.

greed killed HoN

I am literally watching this because I was wondering how hard it would be to fix bugs in The Last of Us on my own. It's my favorite game of all time, but there are many imperfections here and there.

Thanks for all the good advice, i‘ve been thinking about going pro in val for some time and i‘ve decided that i wanna try it. I am currently top 2% global and i am will start my socials as soon as my finals are finished. When i finally make it to the big stage, i will greet you in an interview.

amazing scripting, thanks brother

Make a new version of HoN please!!!!!!

Dota2 killed Hon 😔

How does this prove that new IPs are too risky? They created a new game based on one of their existing IPs. If anything, this proves that slapping on a familiar product to sell one of lower quality does nothing but dwindle the trust your consumers have.

I've played a number of early access games (e.g. Planet Nomads) And when I give feedback/suggestions for features I try to make my ideas as clear as possible and often include illustrations and references to other games for methods used.

madden player here smh game is awful

HoN just fumbled the launch. It went to being a huge Free 2 Play beta, into like a $40 Buy 2 Play title. A lot of people couldn't afford it, and League of Legends dropped, entirely free 2 play and advertised itself, literally on its website, as "Like Heroes of Newerth but free"

HON was 20 dollars on release. I was there.

Theme hospital.... Now that's a game I almost forgot about. 🤣 Was a great game.

Sleep. E..at p..lay ...

The fact that LoL became the dominant game over HoN is a crime against everything I hold dear 😢

I played HoN 14-15 years ago while it was free to play, I think it was in a beta. I was a young kid that just wanted to play something else other than Dota and HoN was a next logical step. I was super sad when they announced that the game needs to be bought now, because I didn't really have money to buy it. Buying anything over internet was a much different experience 14-15 years ago than it is now. A friend of mine recommended me LoL back then. It was a much worser game than HoN at a time, but everyone of us jumped ship to it because it was free to play. 14 years later and I still come back to and play some LoL with a buddy of mine. Really makes you wonder where HoN could've been had they just released a game as a free to play. I can't stress it enough on how much of a better game it was than all of its competitors at time. Also the savage vibe it had was amazing.

The Movies and Black & White are the greatest games ever made! How could they not be successful?!?

I found out that you can play it again its awesome

Project Kongor baby :-)

When Microsoft puts its hands on something, it'll vanish .... where's Rareware For God's sake !? Now Lionhead .... who else !?

No, the Frostbite Engine is not to blame. It was made first and foremost to support FPS games and it excels at that. It's not the engine's fault that EA forces it down the throat of all of its studios regardless of genre.

Word of warcraft mod... For real dude?

Frostbite is 100% dogshit

Why is it a masterpiece? I don't get it. I played it for like 2 hrs , roam around killed a few things , felt pretty boring , didn't feel appealing, dropped and never picked up again. I don't understand why its treated as like the best game ever by some. It has no story if am not wrong. The combat is souls like obviously which not all people like. What exactly is there that makes it good and worthy of all the praises it gets.

Black and white was the best game.. we wait for 3

Good riddance, Hon was never a real platform on the moba scene.

EA's downfall can be chalked up mostly to the fact that they stopped listening to their consumers, got greedy, and tried to shove their greed down their customer's throats... Another huge issue I always hear from every single person I've talked to about EA is that their customer service is basically non existent. Yeah they have some people who you can chat to for support, but almost every time you reach out to customer support for anything that has gone wrong, the problem isn't solved and the customer is left feeling more frustrated by customer service asking them to restart their computer for the 100th time. Lastly, and it seems like most of the big game devs are starting to behave like this now, is how they hype up a game with trailer videos and a bunch of paid influencers, for months or years before release, then they release a game full of bugs or that doesn't live up to the hype, and then they don't bother putting in the time and money to fix it, while putting all of their focus on hyping up the next game. This is what happened when china took over the smart phone games market, they pump the hype, get people to click on the game, make a few purchases, then they dump the game and focus entirely on hyping up the next garbage game.

I love HoN. I hate lol. I play dota2, But it just makes me depressed its not HoN.

Thanks for taking the time. I'm a nobody of a scrubby indie dev. And there is a lot of misinformation floating around online about game dev. As understandably frustrating as bugs can be. This is literally the first & only video i've found actually discusing what bugs are and why they happen. We don't have to excuse the bad behavior and shady practices of game studies. But we also can't keep saying the technical realities of game development don't matter. Because that approach only leaves us angry and without answers. That and most of the discussions we're having are pretty technical in nature. if we want better games? Part of that means we have to inform ourselves. So we can make better and more accurate criticisms of the games we play. Again, thanks for putting this together. Take care & have a good one

Cuz it was too hard and too fast, unlike LoL which is more noob friendly and can be played by everyone

Milo, oh Milo, what a fiasco and scandal it was. A true Kinect system seller. False project that dropped down so hard that it killed even Kinect and the developer.

Valve company of idiots they can do this game the better game but they do not vaste in time for this game it was foolish decision when i see this game first time i can't wait when i play Artifact and now i so sad for cancelled this game

Best Monkey King character on any MOBA game. Sad to see you go.

Can somebody please tell me, how is the combat better and more forgiving than the rest of souls games, how is it more accessible?? Someone has to show me a video or explain how and what changed, because for me it's the same like other dark souls.

3:01 br no chat haha

thank you for the insight, every time i learn more about how much devs are abused i feel even more scared of working in the gaming industry ;; but im also a stubborn advocate and love games too much, so i hope i can stand up for myself and coworkers💕 -ngl finding out gaben is a narc dashed my dream of working at valve and making vr less photo dangerous, so idk what ill do with myself but it sure as hell wont be meta lmao-