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No you are not going mad, there was a window that you could see loaves passing, I know this as i went to Tavistock School, that is no longer there. The swap shop was a wonderful place< i remember that my father and I used to go in there to buy parts for my Hornby railway. I have just recently found your videos and they bring back a lot of memories for me, I was born in Croydon in 1954 and lived there till 2005, so thank you for the memories.

Thank you for this very informative and well done video. 👍👍👏👏😃 Can i ask what handheld equipment you use? as it looked like someone else was filming you at one point, when you were standing near the green railings near Waterworks Cottages. I was unaware that the tea rooms existed and was built around the valve station building, so i enjoyed seeing the photos of this as when I had seen the video 'short' of this earlier, I was wondering if it had been in the grounds of Royal Russell School, as the video shot to a view of the school gates, after showing a photo of the teahouse. I don't know if you did that intentionally but it added to my interest to know more. Also the route that you took to get to see the valve station, is that the only way to get there? as you said you wouldn't recommend it and it did look very close to the tram line. And is that as close as we can get to the valve station? as it seemed quite far away, at the other end of the field.

It looks like an incomplete spider web from above and like an ancient monument on the ground and the music makes it seem mysterious too, almost alien like, especially when you were moving the camera round. I've taken all of those exits when I was out walking and exploring years ago. You are probably aware of the pathway that runs adjacent next to the Primary School on Croydon Road, just a little way up on the left hand side. It crosses over the Caterham Bypass, if I remember rightly. Further up the Caterham Bypass, there is a bridge that links the 2nd half of Tillingdown Hill, that I have read has ghostly apparitions and a bloody history to do with war on that land, as people who live or have lived there had said of. So if you haven't done a video of that area, then I was wondering if you might consider it, thanks.

Hi! I didn't know about the tea rooms. 👍 And as I have just come across your🤳❤ channel and subscribed, have you done the full story yet? If so, can you leave the link to that video here please, thank you.

David Bowie’s younger brother was also at Cane Hill then during day release he committed suicide at Smitham bottom train station

Sorry missed your pod cast due to illness (Peter clark)

Happy xmas Phil and family have a great new year

Sorry couldn't make the live broadcast but enjoyed the replay. Have a great Christmas Phil...

Sorry to have missed the live Phil happy Christmas

I only dropped by for a look because I have in my possession a post card from the barracks dated November 1914. It is hand written to my Grandfather.

Thanks Phil another good one I hadn’t seen before, when you came along the perimeter fence at Leaves Green my uncle used to work at Leaves Green farm there were apparently a few crash sites that were marked & one from an airshow in the 1970’s

I lived on the border SE25. We shopped in Croydon town centre every Saturday without fail, went to the little Sainsbury’s in the Whitgift to do our weekly shop, this was way before they built the one at Crystal Palace FC. Perhaps pop to M&S, Beaties model shop, BHS, Allders, Turtles and Littlewoods. I so looked forward to it, we grabbed a coffee in Pontis on the top floor. Got my first job at Leon house and my sister worked at Tabener house, parents friend worked at Segas, amazing how st George walk went straight through the middle like a tunnel.. i liked sitting in the town hall gardens with my lunch. It’s amazing how much mileage you can do walking around just taking in the sights. Love these videos you do! Good work 👍🏻

It used to be great to shop there at xmas, but now it is dead, especially the whitgift centre. I remember as a carpenter apprentice working on the forum pub, long gone

Hi Phil interesting video, did you know that was the original old Tithepit shaw road you were walking on before the new road was constructed in 1961 , my parents knew people who used it all the time to get between Whyteleafe & Hamseygreen, I believe it’s the longest surviving peace of original roadway in Surrey 👍

I used to work in Delta point, and the NLA tower.....oh and dixons in the whitgift. I've seen my home town run into the ground. I'd love to leave.

This brings back some memories. I used to live in Westmore Road during the mid to late 70's.Tatsfield Rovers FC used to play at Furze Corner on the approach road, the Scout hut was over the road from there. My late father used to go to the working men's club by the pond. The Post Office used to be at the end of the row of shops and the village policeman was Dick Dredge, used to live in the Police house by the village hall.

Another great video thank you Phil, I can remember going down Surrey street with my mum an dad in a Saturday morning, you couldn't move it was shoulder to shoulder and all the stall holders calling out prices of their produce, the smell of the fresh fruit and veg, aah happy memories and do you remember there used to be a Turtles ironmongery shop on spurgeons bridge a smaller version of the one in park street.

Looks like the allotments have gone. Steve Stimson used to live on Church Lane, me & Stan Todd lived on Ward Lane, Dennis lived on Crewes Lane. Love the video!

Another great video mate, well put together. So many memories of half my life in Warlingham with visits to Godstone, Woldingham, Caterham, etc, before moving to California. I think Dave Skinner's brother Don, was the landlord of The White Hart for a time in the late 1980's, he bought my old white Ford Consul 2.5 (cheap version of the Granada). Keep up the good work!!!

And I remember Heathrow being just a bunch of nissan huts.

Thanks for the updated video of Croydon.I spent a lot of time in West Croydon in the 1960's. Mum went to Tavistock school. I remember Kennards. Didnt know why Fairfield Halls was called that thanks for the info!

Wow! How it's changed. Lots of comments below I can associate with. Phil, do you remeber the clothes shop on the left as you exited West Croydon bus station, the one that used to sell all the skinhead and punk clothes? What was that called? Remember getting green flight jackets, sta-press trousers etc there. I used to work in Randolph House (now gone), at the top end of the bus station, on the 8th floor and remember watching the explosions in the train station yard one day when a whole load of propane gas canisters caught fire!!! Also worked in Edridge road alongside the flyover, in a building called Impact House (worked for BT). Is that still there? You seemed to turn off just before it.

Thanks for another lovely video, Phil; there were so many places I knew from my childhood and teenage years in this one. I'd completely forgotten about the Swap Shop until you mentioned it, and I also remember there was a Rank bowling alley around that area too, at least in the mid-late 60s. The Tamworth Halls building was a Croydon Tech annex in the early 70s, where I went after I refused to go to Trinity any more (which you mentioned as being moved to Shirley Park). You didn't show a building opposite the Halls that I found on Google Maps as I was following your walk--there's what looks like a residence faced in brown and green tiles, and that was a pub (The Tamworth Arms?). I love the nostalgia fix I get from these... I'm 5,000+ miles from Croydon, and 50 years from my life there, but your videos bring the memories flooding back.

Fascinating how its changed. Used to get my haircut at that barbers in Surrey St and hated swimming at Scarbrook Rd baths with the school! Loved the Swapshop, Kennards Arcade and the Model shop in St Georges walk.

ah great... another video from my favorite channel...

I see that Sanderstead Library has now closed. Such a tragedy. I'd like to tell this story here because I don't suppose that it will ever matter anywhere else. Growing up in Sanderstead (more like South Croydon - Mayfield Road to be exact) in the 60s, 70s, early 80s, the library was central to my life. I went every week, at least, either on the 403 bus or walking up Sanderstead Road, and in the school holidays I spent hours there. To me, at the time, it seemed like a huge building, which held all the books in the world! OK, so I was a swot, or a nerd, or whatever we would say now, but I loved it. Years later, and I became a Professor at Cambridge University and, you know what, I don't suppose I'd ever have gone down the path that got me there without Sanderstead Library. And now it's gone, and no one else will have that particular path.

Another great video. I was interested by the mention of Norfolk House, which is where I had my first job after leaving school in 1983 (I worked for Noble Lowndes, which, as Noble Lowndes Partners, at one stage gave its name - NLP - to the Eggbox Tower by East Croydon station). But I'm not clear if it was on your 1950s map? In my memory, based on its style, it had been built in the 1930s, but I'd be interested to know.

Wonderful video , Phil. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. I left Croydon for Canada in early 1967 at 22 years of age, having been born & raised in East Croydon. Your videos bring back so many memories, & I can’t believe how much the town has changed. Not always for the better I have to say! I do look forward to all your videos. Thank you again 🫶🏻

Thanks for the video and all the memories (now 73) in age roaming around croydon as a kid .i lived in new addington from 1954 to 2007,thanks again Peter clark

Lovley memories, taberner house as was my head office, worked for Croydon council for over 40 years as maintainance carpenter joiner. Lived in croydon from 1952 to 2008(peter Clark)

Wow! That was a walk back in time for me.Lived down in West Croydon and used to walk into town. Used to as a family go to the Working Men's Club in Scarbrook Road ....and Where's the flower stall gone from Surrey St by the steps.? ....So much has changed so Thank You for your video.😊

Very interesting video, thanks. I really don't recognise most of the streets from my youth in late 50s to mid 60s. In fact the only parts I knew were the Fairfield Hall and Surrey Street. I used to travel in by bus from Wallington originally arriving at West Croydon Station and knew Kennards well. Then as a teenager, having moved to Purley, came in via South Croydon. Think I would get completely lost if I visited now!

Very informative video. My, my, Croydon’s changed a lot even since 2017, when I changed jobs and moved away. What time of the day were you filming? I’m assuming it was a week day. Keep up the good work.

Excellent video...👍.

Many thanks Phil. It's interesting to see how much Croydon has changed. It's got nicer modern apartments which have replaced some of the old depressing areas that used to be there. I remember the Winderloaf factory and the smell of fresh bread.

Thank you very much for this walk Phil how croydon has changed 😮.

Watching another great video, i remember the buses going right through Croydon.I got the 409 to Godstone and got off at St Lawrence's hosp where i worked

Always used to be an event coming to Croydon as a child. Surrey street kennards and lunch in BHS. As a teenager I was often to be found browsing in Beanos. Saw many films at the odeon. Happy days.

Thank you for the video. We used to live in Centrillion Point (just near where you started and finished). A refurbished Office block which was reclad again following the fire in Grenfell tower block. Our GP was located along Friends Road, and we used to walk in the nearby park opposite the magistrates court. There were often smartly dressed but strangely nervous people milling around outside.

Loved it Phil brought back memories. I’ve got loads of stories about Croydon from working in there for 30 years with Croydon Council. I must ring you up and send you some photographs of what we’ve done in the highways department in Croydon. I’ll come up and get some pictures out the loft. Jeff. Ps. I’ve got some pictures of when I helped put in the plane down on the pearly Way. At Croydon Airport.

I found that very sad. So many good memories. I was born and raised in Waddon and some things the video reminded me of were swimming in Croydon baths as a kid in the 60's. I always remember the outside baths was always closed. I heard it got hit by a bomb in WWII, don't know how true that is. Surrey Street market, always busy and noisy, Frenchies seafood stall where dad used to buy us eels. The Swap Shop, brilliant place as a kid, so many interesting things. I did my apprenticeship at Croydon College and had my 21st birthday party at Ruskin House. I also remember the Wonderloaf factory. I used to love Croydon and, as a biker, spent many hours in the Cartoon. Unfortunately I also remember the inside of Croydon Police station, don't ask! I watched Croydon deteriorate from a pleasant place to one where it just seems over developed with incredibly ugly buildings which tower over everything, horrible. I got to the stage where I really didn't like it anymore and now live in Cornwall. Like I said, sad.

Its a shame alot of our local pubs are disappearing

Nice to see the picket fence I built is still standing outside those beautiful cottages

Great video phil, (Peter Clark) it's my daughters site i haven't changed my name my phone went up the creek

Memories flooding back of journeys into Croydon on the green London Country 403 bus

I have a vague recollection that the building you point out as South Bank University (at the 9 min 58 secs position) was once a retail shop called (I think) House of Holland ? Or International House of Holland ? Can’t quite recall 100% . Does anyone else remember that or did I dream it 😂!?

I was back in Croydon last week. I walked from East Croydon train station to Mitcham Road Cemetery and back and enjoyed the nostalgia. It seemed like Croydon was on the mend, and I got that impression from this video as well. BTW have you come across the Aerial Photo Explorer on Historic England's website? There are plenty of historic views of this area taken from the air that show how it was, particularly in the 1940's. The oblique photos (rather than the top down) are particularly striking - click on the purple lozenges to access them. I have discovered images of my old primary school and my sister's and even one of the prefab where I was born. One of the best things about them is spotting people going about their everyday affairs - it's a great way of taking a walk through the past and would complement a video such as this very well.