We are Forced to Believe Lies -Dr Conrad Vine

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024

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  • @carrolsullivan6402
    @carrolsullivan6402 5 месяцев назад +4

    Bible Truth is NOT God the Son and God the Holy Spirit as in the SDA 28 Fundamentals.
    No where in the Bible have I found those quotes. God Bless🙏

    • @spiritedtoday
      @spiritedtoday 5 месяцев назад

      Godhead | θεότης | Theotēs:
      divinity (abstractly), godhead.
      Divine | θεῖος | Theios:
      godlike (neuter as noun, divinity): - divine, godhead.
      The divine nature is how we move and have our being. If anyone does not understand what relation the Father has with the Word and the Spirit, they are not good teachers of sound doctrine, for it is written plainly what that relationship is between the three, and that is that they're all One.
      Scripture teaches the divinity of Christianity is what makes up The Bride of Christ's relationship. We have eternal life by the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.

  • @rebeccasmith8567
    @rebeccasmith8567 5 месяцев назад +6

    One cannot be "forced" to believe a lie.

  • @sharonabraham3676
    @sharonabraham3676 5 месяцев назад +6

    I don't know why lately they are reading other version, i myself KJV

    • @bobreese4807
      @bobreese4807 5 месяцев назад

      And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people. ACTS 12:4 KJV

  • @bobreese4807
    @bobreese4807 5 месяцев назад +4

    “The MINISTERS must be CONVERTED before they can strengthen their brethren. They should not preach themselves, but Christ and His righteousness. A REFORMATION is needed among the people, but it should first begin its purifying work with the MINISTERS.” 1 T 469
    It has often been presented to me that there should be LESS SERMONIZING by MINISTERSs, acting merely as local pastors of churches, and that greater personal efforts should be put forth. Our people should not be made to think that they need to listen to a sermon every Sabbath. Many who listen frequently to sermons, even though the truth be presented in clear lines, LEARN BUT LITTLE. Often it would be more profitable if the Sabbath meetings were of the nature of a Bible-class study. 21 LtMs Lt 192
    “The church, ENFEEBLED and DEFECTIVE, needing to be REPROVED, WARNED, and COUNSELED, is the only object upon earth upon which Christ bestows His supreme regard.” EG White

    • @cathyponi2409
      @cathyponi2409 2 дня назад

      Alot of people dont know about Christ and His Righteousness'. They come into this church's not REALLY knowing there Savior. Alot dont realize its HIS Ga l2: 20 way not ours. EGW states that very few Adventist will make it. I'm sorry I cant Recall that Quote but I'm sure the Brother Vine does know. And it will do those to find it for themselves and not always be feed from others. WE must do our own Research and studing

    • @bobreese4807
      @bobreese4807 2 дня назад

      @@cathyponi2409 Look at 2 PET 3:16 as a clue. GAL 2:20 is an ambiguous and generalization verse by Paul. Most churchgoers in all churches, including SDA have never read the whole bible once or even whole new testament. Most preachers do not encourage bible study by just presenting their pastoral, remedial, topical sermons with a few verses thrown in out of context. Homiletics is PATHETIC all across all denominations. One EGW quote is only 5%. Most preachers are LAW trashing , bible warping and neglecting Pharisees.

  • @joedex5864
    @joedex5864 5 месяцев назад +4

    Yup....! Like the Trinity

    • @bobreese4807
      @bobreese4807 5 месяцев назад +1

      EG White supported trinity.

    • @Cryaloud
      @Cryaloud 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@bobreese4807 false statement. The pioneers were non-trinitarian. Ellen White was not trinitarian she actually warned against trinitarianism when Dr Kellogg set the ground for it in Adventistism. Do more research on this and you will know the truth. Trinity came to the SDA church officially in 1980.

    • @bobreese4807
      @bobreese4807 5 месяцев назад

      @@Cryaloud I don't really care that much. I will reply though. Some Adventists are on the ANTI-Trinity campaign because they claim it is idolatry. Most SDA have never read the whole bible once. Most SDA have never read Steps to Christ, Desire of Ages or Great Controversy either. I have done all 4 and more. EG White and pioneers were originally ANTI, however EG white changed in 1898...>>"Sin could be resisted and overcome only through the mighty agency of the Third Person of the Godhead, who would come with no modified energy, but in the fullness of divine power. It is the Spirit that makes effectual what has been wrought out by the world's Redeemer. It is by the Spirit that the heart is made pure. Through the Spirit the believer becomes a partaker of the divine nature. Christ has given His Spirit as a divine power to overcome all hereditary and cultivated tendencies to evil, and to impress His own character upon His church. DA 671 .....I know there are a few hits on this but...those who are meek, pure in heart, forgiving, HOLY and have the mind of JESUS (love righteousness & hate evil ) are fit for eternal life...not some arrogant SDA sociopath!!

    • @laneweever2620
      @laneweever2620 2 месяца назад

      @@Cryaloud In 1896, she quoted the words of Jesus in John 16:7, 8, and then wrote her earliest clear statement on the Holy Spirit as a Person in the Godhead. “Evil had been accumulat­ing for centuries, and could only be restrained and resisted by the mighty power of the Holy Spirit, the Third Person of the Godhead, who would come with no modified energy, but in the fullness of divine power.” In 1898, Ellen G. White published these words, with slight modification, in The Desire of Ages.19 There is no indication of a particular vision that Ellen G. White received that caused her to write more explicitly on the personality of the Holy Spirit. Nevertheless, as a messenger of the Lord, she became very specific on the issue during the 1890s. Through the remainder of her life, she contin­ued to support the personhood and full deity of the Holy Spirit.20

  • @bobreese4807
    @bobreese4807 5 месяцев назад +3

    SDA leaders & pastors get paid to TALK.. Do they ever reach out to the UNCHURCHED?????

    • @chuckokelley7566
      @chuckokelley7566 4 месяца назад

      Do you know anything about Dr Conrad Vine in the ministry that he has done? I do.

  • @josephwells8699
    @josephwells8699 5 месяцев назад +2

    I am surprised at how much the congregation knows about Star Wars. Have they read Ellen White?

  • @edwhitson9873
    @edwhitson9873 5 месяцев назад +18

    Use KJV. I don't support any other

    • @vickieadams6648
      @vickieadams6648 5 месяцев назад +3

      Agreed 💯💯

    • @AlanWolf-d7l
      @AlanWolf-d7l 5 месяцев назад

      Or French/ Spanish or German translation from 1500 same time as KJV

    • @Desire_of_Ages
      @Desire_of_Ages 5 месяцев назад +2

      It seems so strange that preachers do not use the King James Bible 🤔

    • @bobreese4807
      @bobreese4807 5 месяцев назад

      "And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after EASTER to bring him forth to the people." ACTS 12:4 KJV

  • @Simon-Simon-Simon
    @Simon-Simon-Simon 5 месяцев назад +3

    TRINITY sciences ?

  • @Desire_of_Ages
    @Desire_of_Ages 5 месяцев назад +1

    One can deal with a foreign accent, but it is just WRONG to use a none-KJV Bible 😬

    • @bobreese4807
      @bobreese4807 5 месяцев назад

      "And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after EASTER to bring him forth to the people." ACTS 12:4 KJV,...

  • @stewiefy
    @stewiefy 3 месяца назад

    John 9:1-5 the night cometh, when no man can work(Matt 25:1-13 & Rev 13:16-17)
    Isa 13:9-12 the sun shall be darkened in his going forth
    Matt 24:21 & 29 and the moon shall not give her light(when no man can work)
    Rev 11:7-15 when they shall have finished their(John 5:39 & 15:26) testimony(Tishri 2024 to Nisan 2028)
    Matt 24:13-14 this gospel.. shall be preached in all the world.. and then shall the end come
    Dan 8:19-25 I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be
    Dan 11:30 indignation against the holy covenant
    Heb 13:20 the blood of the everlasting covenant
    Rev 17:8-17 The beast.. shall ascend out of the bottomless pit; and go into perdition: These shall make war with the Lamb
    John 9:5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world
    John 3:16-21 And this is the condemnation
    Amos 8:11-12 I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord
    2 Thes 2:1-12 except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
    Rev 17:8-17 and goeth into perdition.. until the words of God shall be fulfilled
    Rev 14:8-12 Babylon is fallen.. If any man worship the beast.. and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name
    John 5:43 if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive(Tishri 2024 to Nisan 2028)
    Rev 18:2-23 Babylon the great is fallen.. and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee

  • @The144Kth
    @The144Kth 5 месяцев назад +1

    Where in Revelation 14:6-12 is the following concept brought out?:
    The law requires righteousness,-a righteous life, a perfect character; and this man has not to give. He cannot meet the claims of God's holy law. But Christ, coming to the earth as man, lived a holy life, and developed a perfect character. These He offers as a free gift to all who will receive them. His life stands for the life of men. Thus they have remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God. More than this, Christ imbues men with the attributes of God. He builds up the human character after the similitude of the divine character, a goodly fabric of spiritual strength and beauty. Thus the very righteousness of the law is fulfilled in the believer in Christ. God can “be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.” Romans 3:26. . DA 762.2

  • @bobreese4807
    @bobreese4807 5 месяцев назад

    . "The greatest help that can be given our people is to teach them to work for God, and to depend on Him, not on the ministers. Let them learn to work as Christ worked. 7T 19".. TEACH THEM HOW?????????

  • @leemary4833
    @leemary4833 5 месяцев назад +2

    Wonderful, a study of a gospel; so needed. Sharing.

  • @BILLMCGHIE
    @BILLMCGHIE 5 месяцев назад +2

    Greetings. Good message, thanks be to God, and Conrad. I have always learned a lot .Amen. Happy Sabbath.

  • @MA-id1hr
    @MA-id1hr 5 месяцев назад +1

    A big part of the lie is religion also. It's not excluded.

  • @mgrossklaus5186
    @mgrossklaus5186 5 месяцев назад +1

    Where can I find the original video to have more context?

  • @DigitalPraise7
    @DigitalPraise7 5 месяцев назад +3

    Lies like the trinity?

  • @turtlegrams6582
    @turtlegrams6582 5 месяцев назад

    Please on youtube > why so many Bible versions via Walter Veith & Homestretch & Christ Second Coming Separating Facts from fiction via Walter Veith and identity of the little horn power via Amazing Discoveries and who Is the man of sin via EvenAtTheDoors and Thy Word via Truth is Christ

  • @rodwilliam3890
    @rodwilliam3890 3 месяца назад

    Our family are SDA we live in Bowen Qld Australia. Sad not many church members these days

  • @Yonah4Him
    @Yonah4Him 5 месяцев назад

    Please turn off your "moneyize" button, and stop exploiting Dr. Vine. The commercials are absolutely ungodly, and using Dr. Vine for "hits" is lacking ethical behavior.

  • @rodwilliam3890
    @rodwilliam3890 3 месяца назад

    Amen Conrad. This is why we home school our children. Even in Australia same evil

  • @3angels.Rev.14
    @3angels.Rev.14 5 месяцев назад +1

    Glory to God alone

  • @bobreese4807
    @bobreese4807 5 месяцев назад

    SDA pastors do NOT promote LAITY to work.

  • @crismi144
    @crismi144 5 месяцев назад +1

    POPE FRANCIS WILL BE AT THE G7 IN JUNE HAPPY SABBATH

    • @jennifertinker985
      @jennifertinker985 5 месяцев назад

      😮 Pope Francis joined the G7 in 2022.. He is the little horn amongst the 7 horns.

    • @randyfoon3165
      @randyfoon3165 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@jennifertinker985, actually he is the 8th Sovereign, otherwise known as the 8th king of the revived head of church and state of Revelation chapter 17, aka, the king of fierce countenance and understanding dark sentences who by peace destroys many through his policy in the latter end of all earthly kingdoms in Daniel chapter 8. ❤

  • @robertkearbey6155
    @robertkearbey6155 5 месяцев назад

    KJV is primary for me, use NIV on those situation I need more clarity to the verses

    • @bobreese4807
      @bobreese4807 5 месяцев назад

      "And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after EASTER to bring him forth to the people." ACTS 12:4 KJV

  • @trentevenson8988
    @trentevenson8988 5 месяцев назад +1

    The carnal nature needs light and dark

  • @brucemackinnon6707
    @brucemackinnon6707 5 месяцев назад

    Satan's forces book the ad slots in your episodes. The Synagogue (of Satan) particularly.

    • @aussieblue7132
      @aussieblue7132 5 месяцев назад

      The adds shown to you won’t be the same for everyone else, they are based of what you have looked at in the past

  • @The144Kth
    @The144Kth 5 месяцев назад +1

    If you have to be telling "Christians" that they should be doing what should come naturally from the renewed heart, then they are not Christians, and you dear sir should be in stead telling them how to be born again. You know, like you are? Before you were converted did were you motivated to share the Gospel? No? well tell us how to arrive at that state, and stop with the guilt tripping.

    • @kathycurtis6359
      @kathycurtis6359 5 месяцев назад +1

      He's speaking to those who think they are but are not christian. He has explained how to correct their thinking. Sounds like you are offended. Or possibly conflicted?

    • @The144Kth
      @The144Kth 5 месяцев назад

      @@kathycurtis6359 But by telling the unconverted that they should be doing the work of the converted, he is only confirming them in their delusional state. But it’s really not his fault, l think the Lord is causing preachers to speak in parables, as it were: the Gospel is for those who are really seeking God.

    • @kathycurtis6359
      @kathycurtis6359 5 месяцев назад

      @@The144Kth The Gospel is a double edged sword that cuts both ways. Pastors speak as the Spirit leads, unless there is no truth in them.

    • @The144Kth
      @The144Kth 5 месяцев назад

      @@kathycurtis6359 "As the Spirit leads", yes, and He is preventing them from preaching words appropriate for their audiences. The churches are filled with people who have chosen death over submission to their Maker. If these people were forced to face the truth about themselves the world would devolve into chaos way ahead of its' time. Preaching justification by faith in Christ's righteousness would sweep away the excuses they make for not living Christ centered lives, because it's easier to be saved than to be lossed.

    • @kathycurtis6359
      @kathycurtis6359 5 месяцев назад

      @@The144Kth Areyou saying Vine does not preach The 3 Angels Message?

  • @darlakowalski2248
    @darlakowalski2248 5 месяцев назад

    I stopped listening right at the first when you showed that unintelligible version of John 9:5! Completely garbled. Use the received Eastern text the KJV.

    • @bobreese4807
      @bobreese4807 5 месяцев назад

      "And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after EASTER to bring him forth to the people." ACTS 12:4 KJV,...