Silent Hill Downpour - What Happened?
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It's a shame what happened to Downpour. I thought the game actually had some pretty decent ideas, and I actually did kinda like the story. A lot more than Homecoming at least.
Hey Nitro
Opinions, opinions. Personally Downpour was a very unfornate game in all aspects, because it had the potential to be one of the best entries of the series, but Konami doesn't like things well made, they want them made quickly.
I loved the concept of someone accidentally getting onto another mortal's Silent Hill. If you get my drift. Since most of the game undergoes our protagonist being in someone else's version of the town
@@destructive_thoughts_ Wws
Conceptually, I love Murphy and Ann’s story and how their nightmare worlds are so intertwined.
Too bad all that potential crashed like a drunk train guy.
Great, all this talk of Silent Hill, survivor horror games, and Konami goofs just made me remember Metal Gear Survive. I hope you're happy, Matt.
I have no idea what you're talking about. I know for a fact no such thing exists
HEY MATT, I GOT A WHAT HAPPUN IDEA...
@@sugarveins survive story actually is pretty simple. It was a cut mgo3 dlc (mgo3 was supposed to be supported way longer similary to mgo2) that was made stand alone. It was then delayed for almost a year to add a single player story mode and some new things, while still having a small budget because of the project.
In no ways does survive really hint on the future of the serie and can be judged like a main game (would be like comparing metal gear acid to mgs3 back then) , the game actually had a pretty good supports from the dev (even if some things were never implemented in the game brcause they probably knew the game wasn't going to be popular.)
In the end, survive is just a small spin off and that's it. It's not a main game and didn't "killed the serie".
the scariest thing in this game is occasionally when you go through doors, the camera goes thru Murphy's head and you see the inside of his head model for a split second, unintentional jumpscares arent better than regular jumpscares
I actually like silent hill downpour it's pretty interesting. Being the first silent hill game that I've played it has always been a favorite of mine.
I loved this game, played it so many times. It has its own silent hill feel
This was a fun video to watch. This is actually the only Silent Hill game I ever played and I had fun with it. I remember some of the side quest puzzles were difficult but I pulled through in the end.
Not sure how i came across your channel dude but i'm so glad i did, been binging your vids the past few days
At least we have the Silent Hill pachinko machine . . .
This one really hit me deep. Thanks Matt. Also, resubmitting my suggestion for Two Worlds.
Oof, that SH2 quote at the end actually made me cry a bit. As someone that's played all the games released in the west when they were released, it's really heartbreaking that Silent Hill didn't at least die with grace. It died in it's own Silent Hill, never to make it through to it's retribution.
Silent Hill downpour is actually the only game i liked of the non team silent games. It's kinda sad it had so many bugs because i liked the story, the exploration, the characters and many more.
I hate Konami "we want money but we don't want to make a good product" aproach.
You are wonderful hun
God, this video was eye-opening and depressing enough but the clip of Maria's note at the end was heart breaking considering the context that Silent Hill's as good as dead.
The thing about having a blatant criminal as the protagonist is it takes away a big part of Silent Hill games.
In the first 2 games you play as somebody who initially appears "normal", decent people who, over time, you learn are less than innocent.
Silent Hill shapes itself based on the psychological pain the protagonist lives through and on your second play playthrough you notice what aspects of the psyche and trauma each enemy represents.
Having a guy who is clearly and objectively a bad dude right from the start doesn't allow for that growth and discovery.
Aside from it's several flaws I really liked SH Downpour, much more than Homecoming to be true. Downpour had some brilliant ideas like the side quests and the plot. It could been better? No doubt, but it isn't as bad as people paint it.
Also, I liked the "Twin Peaks vibes" it had.
Konami: We want to save money.
Also Konami: WE GOT FUCKING KORN!!!
Yeah, how did that saving money thing work out for you?
"We don't want to play a bad guy"
Have they ever heard of a little series called GTA...?
In my restless dreams, I see that LP. Downcoming.
Downpour is unironically one of my favorite Silent Hill games and idc what everyone thinks.
What is it with videogames from the late 2000s/early 2010s and Korn? Even Haze had this odd fixation, leading to the wonderfully surreal cover art of the song they made for that game.
Haven't heard the Korn song before. I really like it but yeah not really Silent Hill like, then again the whole game is more Condemn than Silent Hill.
I forget if I posted this before, but the Ogre Battle series! It's not the most well known, but it practically created a lot of it's genre's norms, despite being almost unheard of...despite also kinda doing relatively well? Also the director for most of the series, who kinda went through studio ping pong mentioned wanting to do another one, and the last time this happened, they put out some of the best content to value ratio on the PSP. Tactics Ogre on PSP is like 1200+ hours long (though the speedrun record is 3:45ish), before 100%ing it, has more mechanics than people have been able to fully parse in a decade now, solid writing, dozens of endings, and ultimately only has like 3 minor bugs. Even the guy working on the rebalance (www.moddb.com/mods/one-vision1) regularly finds interesting stuff on there, like the rough point where the dev team must have realized that can't make the greatest game ever, and the code just goes from organized to a vomit of random information, to debuffs all having weird side effects that may never have even been mentioned, but make sense (Like a debuff that slows movement reducing dodge...which was usually over-written when a character is trained in dodging better, since they now know how to avoid it).
Anyhow, I could rant about this game forever, but the entire series is like this. I like to joke that it all consisted of Matsuno or whoever was emulating him that day sitting down, snorting down their expresso and coke smoothie, and just throwing out ideas until they passed out. The programmers would have until their coma wore off to make it work. It's the only thing that would explain how these things got made the way they did.
Downpour was an interesting premise that shouldn't have gone wrong...but somehow it did.
Matt.. that beginning was giving me some Edge Lord vibes I’m tellin you!
Cripes, March 2012 was just a disaster of a month.
Here's three ideas I've got for segments of What Happun:
Ratchet & Clank 2016 (The last mainline R&C game so far)
Jak & Daxter: The Lost Frontier (The last game in the Jak & Daxter series)
Sly Cooper: Thieves In Time (The last Sly game which ended on a CLIFFHANGER)
The dude wound up at WayForward? One of the few folks on this show who actually went to work at a much better company.
i´m living to britney playing in the background
There was a kickstarter for a game called Warmachine Tactics. Plagued with delays and the decline of 2 game companies after an amazing rise to the top. It would be great to see your take on what happened to them.
Downpour is still basically unplayable. Good quality control there.
That game just makes me want to play Alan Wake again.
LOTR Oops all Aragorn Edition - I laughed myself to tears
This went up against Street Fighter x Tekken? Can that be another Wha Happun subject along with the still in development hell that is Tekken x Street Fighter?
This game broke my heart and Silent Hills cancelation broke my soul... SH is my favorite franchise, it's so depressing to see your favorite IP dying a thousand deaths.
So, could we get a "what happun" of SH Collections please?
Hideo Kojima Wha Happun sounds nice for a video idea!
Well, I think that going forward with a divisive opinion from focus testing is a decent way of using it. If you try to maximize enjoyment in focus testing that's often how you end up with a pretty generic game with a compromised vision.
Especially for a horror game, some people being uncomfortable with the premise seems fine.
Not if it results in driving people away from your game. Judging by Downpour's sales, thats what happened.
Silent Hill Downpour
Silent Hill HD Collection
Mass Effect 3
Ninja Gaiden 3
Street Fighter X Tekken
Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City
Yikes that is one ROUGH month for gaming. How many of those have their own Wha Happuns at this point??
"Devin Shatsky?! I just took one of those!" - Danny Sexbang
RE4 Serenity at the beginning
That Korn song was dope as hell though
A McMuscles video a day keeps the doctor away
Silent Hill Downpour was actually a really really enjoyable game. Not the best Silent Hill, of course (surprise, the best is SH3 ;)). Still a solid game none the less :D
Oh shit March 2012 was like a downpour of dispointment...
Not wanting to play the bad guy in silent hill despite James from SH2 being a bad guy (he did that naughty thing) shows they don't understand what Silent Hill is conceptually about. Red flag from the get go
There’s a really interesting documentary on RUclips about Tom Hulett’s time at Konami and the backlash he received during that time. Can’t remember who made it at the top of my head but you could find it pretty easily by searching his name on RUclips
I saw that effect u got from Chrono Trigger when they would pass through time.
Hey Matt an idea for a new Wha Happun would be the 2007 Shadowrun game that Microsoft put out. It kinda tried to push the crossplay of windows vista and the 360 before completely dieing. And being the last game Fasa Studios pushed out.
You should do an episode on "Batman: Arkham Origins." That game was just weird compared to the other entries...
Pour one out for my homie Silent Hills...
6:30 You literally play as a criminal in every GTA game ever.
A video about mgs v would be pretty dope.
At least we can all PULL THE LEVERRRRRR
That new Contra game could maybe become a wha happun
I enjoyed downpour. Yeah, it has it's flaws, but it's definitely not forgettable from the series.
You should do a video on Phantasy Star Online 2, and why it took eight years to finally come to the west?
"We don't wana play a criminal!"
You guys do know what James Sunderland did... right?
Yeah, I noticed that too. Apprehended or not, the guy murdered his wife EVEN in the good ending! I'm not aware of a Silent Hill protagonist who's that bad regardless of the player's in-game decisions.
@@LuxAeterna22878 I mean technically he did it to put her out of her suffering, in which considering what she actually got in terms of illness, she's sure to die anyway, albeit slow and painful. But aside from that, yeah, he's still a murderer.
Does it matter what the protagonist did? I mean we are playing a game we're not affected by the characters storyline and life besides the events unfolding through but still a character is a character and not every one of them needs to be a hero to enjoy it's narrative
That's exactly where my mind went. Even in the good ending where he did it because he couldn't stand to watch her suffering, there are bits and pieces of the game that don't exactly make him out to be 100% a nice guy either (a lot of objectification of women going on in his mind there, don'tcha think?).
@@masterdanx1997 Their point was Silent Hill already had a criminal protagonist, and protagonist for maybe the most critically-acclaimed game in the entire franchise to boot.
I think the game concept of "like silent hill, but with guilty convicts" was done much more competently by The Suffering, especially in the area of Monster Design.
That's because they actually got Stan Winston to do the designs for The Suffering.
@@viewtiful1doubleokamihand253 I think The Suffering makes it work, as Torque is said to not remember anything. Instead of just cutting away and you find out later, you know as much as the main character does at the time you start and you build off from there. Is he a heartless killer? Is he innocent? Is it something in the middle? You find out as soon as Torque does, and getting an answer that you deserve for your behavior.
@@viewtiful1doubleokamihand253 Whether or not he killed his family, he was still a gang member who killed other people at least. In the beginning one of the death row inmates states that he shived a bunch of skinheads at his last prison.
Absolutely. One of my favorite of all time
"We don't want to play a bad guy"
Didn't James Sunderland murder his wife? Also I thought the whole point of all the monsters was that it represented all the figurative demons the protagonists had.
From a legal standpoint James murdered Mary but from a technical standpoint it was a mercy killing/euthanasia.
Noah Spears He admitted to her that he was bored of having a wife he couldn’t fuck around. It wasn’t a mercy killing. Play the game.
Actually that was a fool descission from the studio. I mean as you say James, Heather /Alessa, Alex (maybe the death of his brother was an accident, but at the end was the direct responsable). So maybe the studio doesnt know how silent hill works in some ocations.
@@SamsarasArt I know this is an old post, but you misunderstood the ending. He was framed by Sewell for all the deaths, hence the “I’ll see you in hell, cupcake” line. He didn’t actually kill his son, the narrator in that scene is reading a report, one clearly made by Sewell. Sewell was already known for being corrupt. If you want to see how you’re ending tied in, watch one of the videos with all endings, it will make more sense.
@@typhon4829 Game too old to be a spoiler anymore xD
I like Korn. I like Silent Hill.
I like steak. I like chocolate syrup.
Two good things don’t automatically mix well.
"There's a difference between moving things forward, and putting bacon in a milkshake...and then gift wrapping the milkshake"
A chocolate glazed steak could be good if spiced properly
There's actually a lot of good looking chocolate sauce and steak recipes I've found, but still, I get what you mean.
I feel like silent hills quiet, ominous feeling wouldn't mix with korns "AH FUCK EVERYTHING IT'S ALL AWFUL!" vibe
@Dr. Loomis korn is actually a great band. If you dont believe me listen to the cover album that makes all their songs into children's lullabies and tell me that their melodies and chord progressions aren't incredibly strong and memorable even when put through silly, baby themed instrumenstation. Maybe you'll say they're not, but you would be lying
You know what the worst part about Downpour was? Not only was the HD Collection also released in 2012, but so did Book of Memories AND Revelation. Four critically panned installments into the Silent Hill franchise in just a single year.
Silent Hill wasn't just killed, it had its heart ripped out in the middle of the street and had its body set ablaze, and all we could do was watch and shake our heads.
And somewhere in our minds we all imagined ourselves as the pisses off denizens of Silent Hill. Wanting to tear Konami to pieces.
And when Hideo, Del Toro, Junji Ito and the rest of the team came by with their PT ambulance to try save it, Konami shot a rocket launcher at them.
@@yamihikarilightdark9
The way you describe that scene makes me think of Nemesis from RE3.
The Mayans prophesied the fall of Silent Hill franchise
@@SamsarasArt I truly hope you re wrong, Resident Evil 7 and Re 2 Remake give re a lot of good will, so its not impossible, but Konami doesnt care about games anymore, for all its faults EA, Activision and Capcom are gaming companies at their core, the same cannot be said about konami, at least not anymore.
I really hope Matt tears into Dead Rising 4 one day...
oof, yeah...I try to forget that game existed. How about tapping into Dead Rising 3 while he's at it
Peter Mamaev ikr dr3 was great
@Peter Mamaev it's the black sheep because it's not in a mall.
Layne Gat I forgot that game even existed
There was a 4th one?!
Aaah this brings backs good memories... I still go back to watch the LP every so often :)
Thank you for this #FucKonami News update. All the news that's fit to make you say "Fuck Konami".
ditto here
what is an LP?
@@aaronsound Let's Play. I watched RadBrad's let's play
Tomm Hulett's kind of a tragic figure. Matt talked about this somewhat, but basically, he jumped into Silent Hill because he was a massive fan of the first three games, and he stayed because he wanted there to be SOMEBODY on these projects who understood the appeal of the franchise, but it seems his lasting impact was to have the franchise die a slow and lingering death instead of just crashing into the ground like Final Fight or other once-famous IPs that vanished. He was barely able to talk Konami out of having a big DBZ-style energy duel between Alessa Gillespie and Joshua Shepherd in Silent Hill Homecoming, to give an example of how bad it was.
And because he was the self-appointed face of most of the post-Team-Silent games, fans sent all the hatred and harrassment his way, blaming the guy for everything that went wrong in the series. Guy had to quit because it was all too much.
Wha happun to the axe that was thrown off the cliff?
it hit a puppy...which is why its father built a control room to take revenge on all who enter the town's borders.
Ah yes, Silent Hill: DOWNCOMING (That LP was 7 YEARS AGO now... damn)
I can't believe this is final Silent Hill game, that isn't in a Pachinko machine game.
Or A dungeon crawler like Book of Memories
Have you heard of True Fantasy Live Online? Level-5 wanted to make an MMO for the original xbox in the early 2000's. Level-5 and Microsoft were at each-other's throats by the end of it due to differences in business culture between Japan and America and Microsoft being aggressive with their demands. When I saw the trailer, I was set to buy an xbox just for this game and its a shame it got cancelled and severed the relation between the two companies.
Ill look into it! Thanks!
Wow. That profile pic made me get a sense of deja vu. Then I go to the channel and saw that FNAF video. Amazing thing.
“Konami, we’re the Pro Evolution Soccer Company now.”
and yugioh duel links
fearful harmony That too. But if there’s one thing EA and Konami love more than burying franchises, it’s Football/Soccer and Money.
Konami: tries to milk Metal Gear with massive departure nobody asked for.
Also Konami: refuses to port the games people do want to current gen.
Also Konami: ports the worst Castlevania game in an otherwise amazing collection when there are many other excellent games they could've gone with.
Konami logic makes Capcom logic look genius in comparison.
@@zeroattentiongaming820 Also Konami: Short prints cards in Yugioh sets and overprints cards that I'm pretty sure nobody wants. See the Battlewasps in Battles of Legend Heroes Revenge.
@@NisseDood Indeed Capcom has turned things around, but still has some questionable logic. DMC 5 being the most succesful and widely praised in the series after only a few months, but not worth getting DLC for example. Despite completely exceeding Capcoms own unrealistic expectations. The one time Capcom refuses to make DLC is the one time people are demanding it.
Maybe all these collections mean Konami is trying to pull a Capcom and see what properties and gameplay styles are worth bringing back. Or maybe they are just trying to piggyback on the Bloodstained hype with the Castlevania ports.
Thank you for not shitting all over Tomm Hulett. He did the best he could with a bad situation.
Yeah this is the man who had to talk a team off a cliff because they wanted a DBZ-style Super Saiyan fight featuring Pyramid Head. The series fell on its face, but Tom was one of the few trying to catch it.
Holy shit, I never heard about that one. Yeah, Tomm was REALLY trying not to let things go too far, and knew fans would hate a lot of the stupid shit Konami was allowing. Hell, he fought to keep SH2 remaster's original voice work, because, again, he knew fans would hate the redubs. He's basically going, " well, this is going to suck, but let's at least try to make it suck less". Twin Perfect is the main reason the dude gets such a bad rap, but at least Fungo has turned around and apologized to Tomm for all the venom TP spewed at him.
@@Lunchbox224 and then Konami threw him under the buss to face fandom ire
He made the whole game himself, right? No team of writers, producers, artists, etc. It was all Tomm Hulett alone making every little design choice?
@rick minton err he didn ot have near as much power as you seem to think he had to fight tooth and nail to stop things from being worse as it is
I know a guy that got fired for being in the same room as this during testing. Wasn't even on the project, but happened to be in the room when a crash was found late into production and the QA director fired him and the tester that found the crash to appease the developers.
Also one of the developers cussed out a tester because they suggested another crash that was found might be due to a memory leak.
Good times at Konami.
12 of august 2019 marks the 5 year anniversary of the silent hills reveal
Holy shit it’s been 5 YEARS?
It's like the gaming version of remembering 9/11.
Rest in Peace, Silent Hills. You were too good for this world.
The news is old but the hurt is fresh.
@@Nel_Annette Finally
@@Nel_Annette Finally, we can rest.
Its a decent game, I mean its a step in the right direction, it just needed more. The story is not that bad, pretty good. The enemies are not special, only 2 boss battles which are short as hell. It reminds me of the Silent Hill movie, decent but it just needed more.
Plus make it scary.
Its not a bad game. Buts its a really bad game for a silent hill game.
@@xHinaichigox it's a terrible horror
@@xHinaichigox it's not a bad silent hill game neither
More what?
The Mummy movie with Tom Cruise should be the next Wha Happun?, it was the perfect example of how not to launch a Cinematic Movie Universe.
Vote this up the world needs to know.
The fact that they came out, dick swinging, and made a Dark Universe logo for that movie is the funniest shit in the world to me.
I hate they didn't get to the Wolfman that was the one I would have liked to see.
But it is what it is
I thought Dracula Untold was the first movie in the series?
You know... that Dracula movie no one remembers?
Gaming with Phil227
Nah, it was a great movie, just not enough sequel material.
Let's not forget how Tom Cruise tried to take control of the project.
Despite all it's problems, Silent Hill Downpour was still a decent game, if Konami had given the developers a bigger budget and a few more months, it could have been great. The Evil Within 2 feels like what Downpour could have been.
Yeah, this game AT LEAST tried to move forward instead of banking on the movie like Homecoming
Yeah, i enjoyed Downpour a lot more than Homecoming overall. It definitely had some major issues though, like all of the Otherworld chase sequences, should have made more of an effort to personalise it to Murph's situation. Same as the monster designs being lazy. Atleast they didn't just go back to sexy nurses so that's a bonus i think. They missed a trick by not being with sexy demon policewomen instead though haha. Would have been cool though if Downpour's otherworld was more prison like.
I also feel the story had major issues because of the entire branching paths thing, while all Silent Hill games have loads of different endings in general the characters and storyline follow one path and then a few select choices nearer the end decide what ending you get, or depending on what optional side things you did. While in Downpour it felt like they couldn;t tell a proper story or develop a strong lead character because they had to always a account for all of these choices you made.
@@LuisSanchez-yv4ct Yeah, it just makes me angry how lazy some aspects of Homecoming were, "oh look... it's Pyramid head *rolls eyes*".
I will say Homecoming had cool boss/mini-boss visual designs though, it had at least that.
I don't think you're giving evil within 2 enough credit, it's such a tightly woven package. Downpour has a lot of flaws that can't easily be fixed even if it feels close to being a good game. The story is the biggest disappointment for me and I doubt that would've changed. It was a neat idea having the part change depending on your actions but it makes for a story that's so much weaker and less focused, not to mention the morale decisions are really lame.
Downpour needed more attention and polished. There were a lot of decent ideas put into it
It’s no Silent Hill HD Collection...That was just bad
Downpour had so much potential to be great, but just failed to hit the mark. I wish I lived in the alternate timeline where Vatra got a second crack at the series after having learned from their experience with Downpour. I think they could have produced something really good. Shame.
“We don’t want to play as a bad guy”
Ummmmm, James Sunderland wasn’t...???
yep
@Gabriel Knight that actually happens a lot to murders so not really
@Gabriel Knight yes. One of the ones who can be understood on a rational level, but killing your sick wife because you can no longer deal with caring for her is murder. (Edit: typo)
Was a bad guy, but you knew he was a bad guy in the very end of the game.
Strawberry cheesecake Murder, but not what I would call evil in that situation. Still, not liking a game because you are controlling a bad person is just plain stupid...
I've got a few;
Left Alive
Front Mission: Evolved
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire
Resident Evil: Dead Aim
Mass Effect: Andromeda
Pretty sure the main reason resident evil: dead aim isn't liked is because it's a light gun game
Let Andromeda die like it deserves
Dead aim is kinda good.. If you use light gun
Add I Am Alive
to that list, too.
New Gundam Breaker
My pitch for better monster themes:
Bug based, particularly centipedes and ticks (think of the tick-covered snakes in Bloodborne.) Murphy’s son was lost while camping. Bugs are also grabby and invade your personal space, which ties into, yknow (google what exactly happened to Murphy’s son.)
Grabby hands and fingers, self explanatory. Bugs made of hands. Drooling mouths.
Leeches. His son drowned and the man who did it is a parasite.
Water spewing monsters, self explanatory.
Monsters that cry and scream like children. Again, self explanatory.
Basically focus on the horror of losing one’s child in such a horrible way. That’s way scarier than going to prison. Drop the whole prison thing entirely cause it’s stupid. Send Murphy to Silent Hill just over his guilt and depression over not being able to protect his son. He doesn’t deserve it, cause it’s not his fault, but that doesn’t matter to Silent Hill. All that matters is you think you deserve the punishment.
The boogy man, instead of being someone’s Pyro loadout, should be an ever-changing thing that you never get a good look at. Maybe it has a blurry face. It represents how Murphy views the man who killed his son, who in this version, was never caught. Murphy has no closure on this issue.
The prison theme could work if they made Murphy more of a hardened life-long criminal, and a bit of an asshole. And the story could be completely reworked into how he became that way. As it is in the actual game, Murphy basically chose to go to prison, and was more or less a regular guy before that. Which holds no weight.
For it to work, it’d have to have commentary on how and why people become criminals. Murphy could still be sympathetic this way, but having truly terrible things. Themes could include poverty, abuse, desperation, all things that contribute to a person likely growing up to become a criminal.
Resident Evil 0 had a “criminal” protagonist. 🤷🏼♂️
He was framed though, and that's Capcom not Konami lmao. Don't worry, I confused them sometimes too.
16:12 OOHF! That was certainly an interesting week for gaming... freaking yeeesh.
But wha happun with the poor PlayStation All-Stars: Battle Royale?
@@valletas and cloud ended up in smash instead, ironic.
Which isn't fair, because it was a good game, and Superbot did their best at it. SSM and every other company did everything they could to make it fail
@@scarlettbandit2803 It was entertaining, but the mechanics were flawed, it had a ridiculously small roster, plagued with DLC for costumes, uninspired cutscenes, awful balancing issues and no option to make the kills depend on damage. They forced the special moves kills, and many of them were unfair, as they were unavoidable. It could have been great, but the end result was poor.
@@ubermenschmexa But they were when you learned how to play them... Or precisely when you were good enough to lock someone into a kill. It took a lot more patience to master than just hit people enough times so they'll fly off stage, like in Smash. I think it was a great alternative that had loads of potential if SSM and other companies gave it a chance.
Well Konami is probably continue it like their other franchises...
In the form of pachinko machines woooo
or as special Baseball teams in Power Pros PawaFes mode.
@@supersasukemaniac Pyramid Head would be an interesting baseball player.
We need a Wha Happun? on the Axe chronicles
Downpour is best described as wasted potential. They had all the ingredients for an awesome Silent Hill game: a criminal in Silent Hill, possible cool monster designs hinting on the criminals pass and the mystery behind why hes there, and more possible cool and eary designs and locale. But...we got this.
This is a good series, Matt. I'm genuinely excited whenever I see a new one pop up. I don't even give a shit about half the games you talk about--the subject matter and the way you present it is very entertaining. Looking forward to the next one!
Banjo kazooie nuts and bolts, has he done that one yet?
@@8Kazuja8
He covered L.A. Noire, a game that was received well and sold decently, so I doubt that mediocre games are out of the question. Plus, it might be interesting to see what happened that turned BK from a platformer to a, rather disrespectful, open-world racing game.
I liked downpour, bad compared to the classic 1-4 games, but I'll take this over origins or homecoming anyday
Konami: i know! I'll fire all my high price employees and save all the money!!! Wha coul possabluh go wron
Eh this game wasn't that bad, it's the best of the non team silent developed games. I enjoyed the side quests and thought the secret ending was pretty funny
Funny enough, Downpour doesn't seem like a bad game at all. Certainly not great, and some more creative monsters would be nice, but not bad. It's just all the horrible decisions by Konami that pretty much guaranteed that it wouldn't sell.
god danmit. I try so hard to forget about Silent Hills but every time I remember it I get a wave of anger, sadness and "oh ya this is the worst timeline." one of my favorite VG directors heading up my favorite series with designs of one of my favorite manga artists (Junji Ito)
just fuck man.
Actually Junji Ito wasn't attached to the Kojima Silent Hills game. www.gameinformer.com/2019/05/11/horror-manga-creator-junji-ito-speaks-about-his-involvement-with-cancelled-silent-hills
Eastern European developers either make the most amazing and expansive games or complete garbage. Both are incredibly buggy.
Dio Brando
Youre totally right. They either make the coolest shit or garbage, but unless youre called CD PROJEKT RED, theres gonna be bugs out the wazoo either way.
@@childofcascadia witcher 1 was buggy af at launch, same with 2
Downpour > crapcher 3
*Central European
@@childofcascadia CDPR's games have their fair share of bugs, but at least they patch them fast and consistently.
Y'know, still hoping maybe one day silent hill will be brought back by people who care about it
Placing bets it'll be some shitty money grab spin off on mobile.
Considering who Konami is, that's unlikely to ever happen, unless another massive studio offers to take it off their hands for an attractive amount of money.
@@un-capital3666 I think something like that will happen. Probably not anytime soon but Silent Hill is a big name and I can't see it fading away forever.
@@thekingsean92 Probably the best bet will be either Sony or Microsoft buying the ip and making it a exclusive to their consoles.
Out of all(minus Shattered Memories) the post-Silent Hill 4 games in the series, Down Pour is easily the best of them. It’s better than Homecoming, Origins, and Book of Memories. It’s definitely far better than it ever had the right to be, given how dismally Konami pile-drived the series into the ground.
Absolutely crazy to watch you cover this since this was the first LP I ever watched from you many, many years ago. Axe throwing is forever in my memory, and I'm glad you're still making fantastic content Matt!
I really enjoyed downpour, it actually had really good atmosphere, i don't understand why all the hate? I know it's by no means the best entry but it's not a bad game, and silent hill is my favourite franchise.
I have the very controversial opinion that Murphy was not just the best part of Downpour, but was one of the most best protagonists of all of Silent Hill. He felt so much more deep and emotional then most of the protagonists, except maybe for James. Although most of the protagonists were intentionally a bit bland so as to let the player better identify with them, Murphy felt like he wasn’t as bland and he also had much better writing then Alex did (although that wouldn’t be hard).
Matt, can you please do a video about Kojima's silent hill game. I bet that would be one of your most popular what happeneds.
God, all of these Silent Hill games really reek of mismanagement, it’s rarely the developers and it’s always Konami. It’s really shocking how little Konami cares about their brands, they were so happy to throw Silent Hill to 4 tiny cheap studios with very little legacy. It’s like they just didn’t care. I think this game actually had some really good ideas with Murphy being a criminal, I think it would be a great idea to see more people with some really messed up backstories and see how the town of Silent Hill would react.
Silent Hill Downpour and DMC Devil May Cry are both Japanese developed games that hit a series low point when developing exclusively for the West, why do they keep trying this stuff?
And more importantly relying on stereotypes of what they think Western fans are into. Often resulting in a worse project when they focus on that instead of telling a good story and making a fun and enjoyable game.
Back in the early 2000s Japanese game companies thought that they would sell more copies in the west by trying to copy common Western game mechanics, Western stereotypes and Western story cliches. But all it did was make things worse. These brands were already established so fans were then alienated and no one from outside the fanbase really even care about the game. We are left with fans that aren't going to want to play the game because it's different now and trying to go after a market that's not going to play it in the first place.
With that little bit about Kojima at the end, what about that one Metal Gear game.... um... after 5.... that one with the zombies... Ah, Metal Gear Survive. (Had to literally google it)