Thanks Keith, not just for this presentation, but also the many others, that give newbies like me, the confidence to get some very decent prints from a cost-accessible printer.
Nice video. The more I tinkle with this printer the more it’s making me smile. I truly can’t believe the detail and vibrancy of the prints it producing especially on the SG-201 Canon paper. Look forward to your review and thank you for making these videos 🤘
Looking forward to the full review. I've never printed my photos before due to cost of printing, but this looks like it may be suitable for my budget. Thanks for to your channel i'm learning at lot Cheers!
Yes - a detailed look does show a bit of banding, so more care is needed in setting up the paper feed and I'd up the print quality setting, but it shows promise
Hi Keith been on the Pinnacle Web site and can not find the pinacle gloss 210 X 594 do you have a link. As you can problem tell from the questions I have posted I have leant loads from your videos and written review and much appreciate you sharing your content.
Great video thanks Keith. Nice photo too. Hope to see if someone can test the profiles on Windows - I'd offer but don't currently own the printer, so I could theoretically see if the profiles open but obviously not the end result.
Hey Keith please answer this question when you can. I ordered 2 packs of canon photo paper Semi glass 8 x 11 paper of 50 sheets in each pack. Each paper has the canon logo on the back. Do you think that’s fine to use for my shop? Or does all canon 8 x 11 paper come with the canon logo in the back of each paper?
I don't know about 8x11 (it's A4 here in UK) but no, only some papers have Canon watermarking. However I'd never personally sell prints with such watermarks. A more serious issue (for some) is that the G550 uses Chromalife100 inks and these are not very archival - once again not something I'd put my name to. However all this depends on your market and business model ;-) With no printer driver and colour management for use on a Mac, this is not a printer I'd consider for the sort of work I do, but YMMV as ever.
@@KeithCooper Also I’m using a Canon pixma pro 200 for the paper I mentioned (Plus Semi Gloss 8 x 10). You said some papers have the water mark, why is that? And even with the watermark do you believe it will effect the quality of the print in anyway? Other than looking a little unprofessional? I’m kind of new to this. Thank you for your time.
Ah - I was referring to the G550, The PRO-200 is a much better printer (chromalife 100+ inks - still dye but improved) The watermark is entirely a marketing thing - I don't want Canon (or Epson) branding on my work if someone is going to see it ;-)
The more I see of this printer the more impressed I am with it. Another review confirmed that the Windows driver for the G500 series has the colour intensity/ manual adjustment tick box so full colour management should be the same as my Canon Pro 100S. Looking forward to seeing more of what this printer is capable of. 😊
Hi Keith, thanks for all your videos, you are helping a lot of people. I guess the obvious question is: is there a substantial difference between G650 and ET-8550 in terms of the quality of printed photographs? Does one print better photos than the other, including B&W?
Two quite different printers at very different price points - different types of ink-set for example. The G550 does not support proper colour management on a Mac (still testing) which is not so good. Software support differs too. I'll be covering the G550 (B&W) in the main (written) review, but that's a few weeks away - BTW the written reviews are always where I include more detail.
Thank you for your in depth reviews. Do you have a preference regarding reliability, and photo quality between an epson Vs. Cannon ink tank printer in the $400 USD price range? I use Mac, and I consider myself a semi pro photographer
Thanks! On the Mac, Epson don't force the use of AirPrint like on the G550, which would (personally) be a showstopper for myself. See my written reviews of the ET-8550 and G550 for more about this aspect. $400? - I'm in the UK, so don't really track prices, especially since I don't sell printers ;-) As to reliability - I don't have printers for long enough for any meaningful info on this. Myself, I'd use neither for prints I'd sell - they are dye inks. However, that depends very much on your market and how you market prints ;-) I look at this side much more in my 'business of photography' videos.
Keith, thanks very much for this series on the Canon G550/650/620 printer. I'm using TurboPrint on a Linux (Ubuntu) platform (G620 in US) and it works very well. However, TurboPrint seems to limit the custom page size to 8.5"x26.61". This is plenty for my needs but perhaps this is useful info for somebody. Thanks also for your many test images, I've used them for many years!
You might want to edit the ppd file for the printer - normally I don't publicise such hacks, but if you're using Linux then you have the necessary patience ;-)
@@KeithCooper I try to stay out from under that hood! I USE Linux, I don't DO Linux! Thanks again for all your unselfish help in providing the printer targets over many years (I think I have some that are almost 20 years old!).
Hi Keith, I was printing an A3+ print using a Canon Pro 300, when , after printing only half the image the printer threw the paper out without finishing the job. This happened a little while ago but I think I read an error message saying the printer had paused. The printer is wirelessly connected, can this cause faults like this? Could there be other reasons? Thanks in advance, Nev.
HI Keith, really appreciate your review, I bought a G650 after watching it. Really enjoying it, however found an issue with the windows driver I think, I cannot select photo paper longer than 66cm. If you select longer it changes to plain paper. I did a 120cm print but it only let me select plain paper and the print quality is terrible. I've printed dozens of 210x594mm fotospeed panoramics with photo paper settings no problem. Have you come across this issue?
I've only Macs here to test kit with, so I've no idea about this one I'm afraid. I'd suggest asking somewhere like the print forum at dpreview.com ? It's the kind of thing that I _might_ try and fix by hacking the .ppd file for the printer - however that's the sort of thing that if you don't know about, it's not something to play around with (I've only done it on Macs to experiment with long prints)
@@KeithCooper Hi Keith, I contacted Canon support and they have said it cannot print photos over 676mm, and it also says this in the manual. I'm intrigued how it worked ok for you? Maximum size: 8.50 x 47.24 in. (216.0 x 1200.0 mm) * * When Height of Page Size is set to a value exceeding 26.61 in. (676 mm), Media Type is set to Plain Paper.
I just checked back and noticed that this was a matte photo paper, printed with one of my 'mac profiles' via airprint, so it looks as if it could have reverted to plain paper and I'd not noticed. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll have to check further and update the review and notes here. This is a potentially annoying feature to say the least!
I've been anxious to try this on my new G620 (US model), but I'm having a hard time getting roll paper in 8" or 8.5" width. Glad it worked out well - now I'm going to try it. Would you guess that Epson Premium Glossy S041742 might work?
Do take care with the feed, and flattening the leading edge of the paper. I'd also use a higher quality setting, to slow it down a bit. The paper I'm using here is from a local supplier, and is for 'dry lab' style printers as used in shops for printing 10x8 or 12x8 snaps. Double A4 also works well.
Thanks so much for taking time to reply to this. I know you've said that you use papers available in the UK, so it's nice that you offered some hints. The Epson dry lab papers are readily available here but i doubted that they would work.
Thanks again - there is (if you've not seen it) more detailed info in the main [written] review at www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-g550-printer-review/
Between the Canon G650 and the G6050 which one prints the photos better. Which one would you advise me to buy of these two multifunction printers. Thank you!
I've only tested the G550, so I don't know what differences there are between those two if any. Unfortunately, colour management is broken on Macs, I use Macs, so I wouldn't personally use any of them for photos. See the main [written] review for details: www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-g550-printer-review/
@@KeithCooper Thanks Keith for your reply! I also use MAC. Is it better then to opt for the Epson EcoTank ET-8550? Faster, sure. But in terms of photographic print quality, will it be better than the Canon G? Have you tried the Epson EcoTank ET-8550? Do EPSONs not stain the paper when printing photographs as seen in some models? Which one do you recommend?
The 1000 needs the latest firmware to print at this length. The pro-100 never supported this if I remember correctly (it's an old printer and it's many years since I reviewed it) The pro-200 does (I have videos and written articles covering it) For the PRO-200 and PRO-1000 the process is pretty much identical to what i've done here with the G550
Maximum sized print I've got out of my Pro 100S is 13" wide by 25.5" long. I think 25.5" is the longest custom length the driver will accept irrespective of the paper width so sadly there's no way to do pano's a metre long ( 3.3ft approx ) like Keith shows here on the Pro 100 🙁
It's the Apple (Mac) system for wirelessly connecting printers without specific drivers. For windows users it's of no relevance, but for Mac users it means that colour management is effectively broken on this sort of printer. I go into this in the actual [written] review
Read the manual - this can refer to a printhead not being fitted correctly "A print head may not be installed properly or may not be compatible with this printer. If you are printing, press the printer's Stop button to cancel printing. Remove the print heads and reinstall them properly following the steps below. This may resolve the error."
On my desk is a Graffilite (an ott-lite based lamp). I have a full viewing stand as well, but I don't use much special for most inspections since they are usually looking more at detail. The G series is dye based and the Canon black inks has an uneven spectral response which explains the illuminant metamerism [see the main _written_ review for a full discussion of this] Sorry - it's a feature of the inks...
@@KeithCooper Thank you! I am printing form photoshop on a mac sith printer managed color profile, and I see some difference in the tonal range. Prints look a tad warmer then what i see on my monitor. I inspect them with a cheap 5000k light, my monitor is calibrated also to 5000k and there are some small but noticeble differences.Maybe it is just the metamerism playing tricks or I am too perfectionist with a printer that is not intended for professional fine art printing. Wish you all the best!
You are using a G series printer on a Mac - consider good colour a bonus. See my main [written] review for a _lot_ more detail. www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-g550-printer-review/ Being a perfectionist (from my POV) is suspect at best, but on one of these printers (on a Mac) it verges on futile ;-) :-)
@@KeithCooper The g640 printer is also conected to my PC. Made some test prints in photoshop (with the Canon IIJ Printer Profile 2015) - Printer manages color and also Photoshop Manages colors with the same printer profile. Identical prints with those from the MAC. I dont use fancy paper. I use Canon SG-201. Could you please give me some tips how to improve color accuracy? Thank you
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Thanks Keith, not just for this presentation, but also the many others, that give newbies like me, the confidence to get some very decent prints from a cost-accessible printer.
Thanks - glad it was of interest!
Nice video.
The more I tinkle with this printer the more it’s making me smile.
I truly can’t believe the detail and vibrancy of the prints it producing especially on the SG-201 Canon paper.
Look forward to your review and thank you for making these videos 🤘
Thanks, I've a few more to do before writing the review.
Looking forward to the full review. I've never printed my photos before due to cost of printing, but this looks like it may be suitable for my budget. Thanks for to your channel i'm learning at lot Cheers!
The full review (video and written one) will be a few weeks yet, but I will be covering specific print setups like this, as I do more testing.
Surprised how good it is
Yes - a detailed look does show a bit of banding, so more care is needed in setting up the paper feed and I'd up the print quality setting, but it shows promise
Hi Keith been on the Pinnacle Web site and can not find the pinacle gloss 210 X 594 do you have a link. As you can problem tell from the questions I have posted I have leant loads from your videos and written review and much appreciate you sharing your content.
I don't have detailed info - I'd suggest giving them a ring, since product lines change and they are very helpful.
Great video thanks Keith. Nice photo too.
Hope to see if someone can test the profiles on Windows - I'd offer but don't currently own the printer, so I could theoretically see if the profiles open but obviously not the end result.
Thanks - the profiles will be usable since it's a standardised file format - the question is whether the data inside is relevant ;-)
Hey Keith please answer this question when you can. I ordered 2 packs of canon photo paper Semi glass 8 x 11 paper of 50 sheets in each pack. Each paper has the canon logo on the back. Do you think that’s fine to use for my shop? Or does all canon 8 x 11 paper come with the canon logo in the back of each paper?
I don't know about 8x11 (it's A4 here in UK) but no, only some papers have Canon watermarking. However I'd never personally sell prints with such watermarks.
A more serious issue (for some) is that the G550 uses Chromalife100 inks and these are not very archival - once again not something I'd put my name to.
However all this depends on your market and business model ;-) With no printer driver and colour management for use on a Mac, this is not a printer I'd consider for the sort of work I do, but YMMV as ever.
@@KeithCooper alright thank you so much!
@@KeithCooper Also I’m using a Canon pixma pro 200 for the paper I mentioned (Plus Semi Gloss 8 x 10). You said some papers have the water mark, why is that? And even with the watermark do you believe it will effect the quality of the print in anyway? Other than looking a little unprofessional? I’m kind of new to this. Thank you for your time.
Ah - I was referring to the G550, The PRO-200 is a much better printer (chromalife 100+ inks - still dye but improved)
The watermark is entirely a marketing thing - I don't want Canon (or Epson) branding on my work if someone is going to see it ;-)
The more I see of this printer the more impressed I am with it. Another review confirmed that the Windows driver for the G500 series has the colour intensity/ manual adjustment tick box so full colour management should be the same as my Canon Pro 100S. Looking forward to seeing more of what this printer is capable of. 😊
Thanks for the info! I've some greeting cards to print during the week, to test paper handling a bit more.
Hi Keith, thanks for all your videos, you are helping a lot of people. I guess the obvious question is: is there a substantial difference between G650 and ET-8550 in terms of the quality of printed photographs? Does one print better photos than the other, including B&W?
Two quite different printers at very different price points - different types of ink-set for example.
The G550 does not support proper colour management on a Mac (still testing) which is not so good. Software support differs too.
I'll be covering the G550 (B&W) in the main (written) review, but that's a few weeks away - BTW the written reviews are always where I include more detail.
Thank you for your in depth reviews. Do you have a preference regarding reliability, and photo quality between an epson Vs. Cannon ink tank printer in the $400 USD price range? I use Mac, and I consider myself a semi pro photographer
Thanks!
On the Mac, Epson don't force the use of AirPrint like on the G550, which would (personally) be a showstopper for myself.
See my written reviews of the ET-8550 and G550 for more about this aspect.
$400? - I'm in the UK, so don't really track prices, especially since I don't sell printers ;-)
As to reliability - I don't have printers for long enough for any meaningful info on this.
Myself, I'd use neither for prints I'd sell - they are dye inks. However, that depends very much on your market and how you market prints ;-) I look at this side much more in my 'business of photography' videos.
Keith, thanks very much for this series on the Canon G550/650/620 printer. I'm using TurboPrint on a Linux (Ubuntu) platform (G620 in US) and it works very well. However, TurboPrint seems to limit the custom page size to 8.5"x26.61". This is plenty for my needs but perhaps this is useful info for somebody. Thanks also for your many test images, I've used them for many years!
You might want to edit the ppd file for the printer - normally I don't publicise such hacks, but if you're using Linux then you have the necessary patience ;-)
@@KeithCooper I try to stay out from under that hood! I USE Linux, I don't DO Linux! Thanks again for all your unselfish help in providing the printer targets over many years (I think I have some that are almost 20 years old!).
Hi Keith, I was printing an A3+ print using a Canon Pro 300, when , after printing only half the image the printer threw the paper out without finishing the job. This happened a little while ago but I think I read an error message saying the printer had paused. The printer is wirelessly connected, can this cause faults like this? Could there be other reasons? Thanks in advance, Nev.
Not something I've seen, but a network glitch is a possibility - I still prefer connecting printers to the house Ethernet if possible
HI Keith, really appreciate your review, I bought a G650 after watching it. Really enjoying it, however found an issue with the windows driver I think, I cannot select photo paper longer than 66cm. If you select longer it changes to plain paper. I did a 120cm print but it only let me select plain paper and the print quality is terrible. I've printed dozens of 210x594mm fotospeed panoramics with photo paper settings no problem. Have you come across this issue?
I've only Macs here to test kit with, so I've no idea about this one I'm afraid.
I'd suggest asking somewhere like the print forum at dpreview.com ?
It's the kind of thing that I _might_ try and fix by hacking the .ppd file for the printer - however that's the sort of thing that if you don't know about, it's not something to play around with (I've only done it on Macs to experiment with long prints)
@@KeithCooper Thanks for the advice, I will have a look over there.
@@KeithCooper Hi Keith, I contacted Canon support and they have said it cannot print photos over 676mm, and it also says this in the manual. I'm intrigued how it worked ok for you?
Maximum size: 8.50 x 47.24 in. (216.0 x 1200.0 mm) *
* When Height of Page Size is set to a value exceeding 26.61 in. (676 mm), Media Type is set to
Plain Paper.
I just checked back and noticed that this was a matte photo paper, printed with one of my 'mac profiles' via airprint, so it looks as if it could have reverted to plain paper and I'd not noticed.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll have to check further and update the review and notes here.
This is a potentially annoying feature to say the least!
I've been anxious to try this on my new G620 (US model), but I'm having a hard time getting roll paper in 8" or 8.5" width. Glad it worked out well - now I'm going to try it. Would you guess that Epson Premium Glossy S041742 might work?
Do take care with the feed, and flattening the leading edge of the paper. I'd also use a higher quality setting, to slow it down a bit.
The paper I'm using here is from a local supplier, and is for 'dry lab' style printers as used in shops for printing 10x8 or 12x8 snaps. Double A4 also works well.
Sorry - no idea what S041742 is? I'm in the UK...
Look for rolls of paper for the Epson D870 or D700 - I found some in the US at 5", 6" and 8" width all on 213 ft. rolls
Thanks so much for taking time to reply to this. I know you've said that you use papers available in the UK, so it's nice that you offered some hints. The Epson dry lab papers are readily available here but i doubted that they would work.
Excellent!
Thanks again - there is (if you've not seen it) more detailed info in the main [written] review at www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-g550-printer-review/
Thank you
Glad it was of interest!
Inspiring!
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I don't remember - see the papers I tested in the actual review
www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-g550-printer-review/
Hello. Is G550/650/620 printing on transparency film paper?
It will if you find the right film - it's the sort of thing that is very media dependent.
Between the Canon G650 and the G6050 which one prints the photos better. Which one would you advise me to buy of these two multifunction printers. Thank you!
I've only tested the G550, so I don't know what differences there are between those two if any.
Unfortunately, colour management is broken on Macs, I use Macs, so I wouldn't personally use any of them for photos.
See the main [written] review for details:
www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-g550-printer-review/
@@KeithCooper Thanks Keith for your reply! I also use MAC. Is it better then to opt for the Epson EcoTank ET-8550? Faster, sure. But in terms of photographic print quality, will it be better than the Canon G? Have you tried the Epson EcoTank ET-8550? Do EPSONs not stain the paper when printing photographs as seen in some models? Which one do you recommend?
8550 every time - I have loads of videos
www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/
Any idea if this auto ejects? I'm wondering if I can set it up with a roll and continuous print?
I'm afraid it works with a custom size and hence looks for the end of sheet.
Roll feed does not work
@@KeithCooper Thank you
Canon Pro 1000/100 here: this opens up new possibilities!! How to set up for our printers??
The 1000 needs the latest firmware to print at this length. The pro-100 never supported this if I remember correctly (it's an old printer and it's many years since I reviewed it) The pro-200 does (I have videos and written articles covering it)
For the PRO-200 and PRO-1000 the process is pretty much identical to what i've done here with the G550
@@KeithCooper So much appreciated your generosity and willingness to share!
Maximum sized print I've got out of my Pro 100S is 13" wide by 25.5" long. I think 25.5" is the longest custom length the driver will accept irrespective of the paper width so sadly there's no way to do pano's a metre long ( 3.3ft approx ) like Keith shows here on the Pro 100 🙁
So, at the end, is it possible to print border less or not ?
Only a limited range of paper sizes - they are listed in the printe specs by Canon
See here
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hi keith what is the meaning of air print
It's the Apple (Mac) system for wirelessly connecting printers without specific drivers.
For windows users it's of no relevance, but for Mac users it means that colour management is effectively broken on this sort of printer. I go into this in the actual [written] review
sir. i have g650 but his head r is not working. error 1472 shows. kindly can u help me. i am from pakistan
Read the manual - this can refer to a printhead not being fitted correctly
"A print head may not be installed properly or may not be compatible with this printer. If you are printing, press the printer's Stop button to cancel printing. Remove the print heads and reinstall them properly following the steps below. This may resolve the error."
what kind of light do you use when inspecting a print? The prints from the G series printer looks very different in various lightning conditions.
On my desk is a Graffilite (an ott-lite based lamp). I have a full viewing stand as well, but I don't use much special for most inspections since they are usually looking more at detail.
The G series is dye based and the Canon black inks has an uneven spectral response which explains the illuminant metamerism [see the main _written_ review for a full discussion of this] Sorry - it's a feature of the inks...
@@KeithCooper Thank you! I am printing form photoshop on a mac sith printer managed color profile, and I see some difference in the tonal range. Prints look a tad warmer then what i see on my monitor. I inspect them with a cheap 5000k light, my monitor is calibrated also to 5000k and there are some small but noticeble differences.Maybe it is just the metamerism playing tricks or I am too perfectionist with a printer that is not intended for professional fine art printing. Wish you all the best!
You are using a G series printer on a Mac - consider good colour a bonus.
See my main [written] review for a _lot_ more detail.
www.northlight-images.co.uk/canon-g550-printer-review/
Being a perfectionist (from my POV) is suspect at best, but on one of these printers (on a Mac) it verges on futile ;-) :-)
@@KeithCooper The g640 printer is also conected to my PC. Made some test prints in photoshop (with the Canon IIJ Printer Profile 2015) - Printer manages color and also Photoshop Manages colors with the same printer profile. Identical prints with those from the MAC. I dont use fancy paper. I use Canon SG-201. Could you please give me some tips how to improve color accuracy? Thank you
See the link above - applies to Mac and PC
How is the scanner on these?
No idea I'm afraid - my review is of the G550 and only looks at the print aspects
Meanwhile my PIXMA 8620 can't print past 66cm
Yes, this is an interesting feature to see in a cheap printer
@@KeithCooper definitely an interesting feature, I make quite often panoramic photos, thanks for the video