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Social Media isn't terrible on its own. It has simply exposed how terrible everyone has always been.
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@@Chlebqowyyyyyyyypp. Did u hear it this time?
@@Chlebqowyyyyyyyy They said pp
@@Chlebqowyyyyyyyypp. duh.
Actually social media messes with all human social cues we evolved it’s also very enabling it’s not great but not horrible if you have mental control
In all honesty the r/chonkers is so fair.
Edit to add: Please take good care of your pets. Obeese animals do exist and its extremely dangerous to them. Also adopt, those animals deserve a better life and breeders are very offten terrible people.
It would be better if it was something like r/dechonkers, where they can post "chonky" animals while also recognizing that it's not healthy for them, so it's both cute, AND responsible pet ownership
@@JasonBason Or r/fineboys where we just see pictures of fineboys (aka skinny pets or non-chonks).
Or even r/petdietingadvice where we learn how to diet and exercise our pets, maybe in some cool or fun ways.❤
When I adopted my dog, Sally, she was very obese and couldn't move from one mattress to another. We've had her for five years now, and while she's still fat, she's able to move around properly :)
Most of r/chonkers could be reposted on NoahGetTheBoat
yeah, i think it's one thing if you have a pet that's just on the larger side (i have a big orange cat named chester, and he's on the hefty side bc he's part maine coon but he still has tons of energy to run and play), but it shifted from that to people purposefully feeding their pets to get them to look that way, and it's sad.
i can have sympathy for people who don't realize their love for their pet is ultimately hurting them and then try to change, but when they continue to do it it just makes me so sad.
TW: Brief mention of suicidal thoughts
Ugh, this is probably stupid but I think I'm gonna cry. Every time I see self-diagnosis brought up there's always SO MANY PEOPLE complaining about people who are faking it while ignoring the bigger issue.
It's just... really REALLY nice to see so many people taking the time to explain why some people HAVE to self diagnose.
I'm professionally diagnosed now, but when I was younger I was in a *very* toxic and ableist home situation. My self esteem was in the metaphorical toilet, I was suicidal and being constantly berated for things I couldn't control DID NOT help matters. Extensive research and self-diagnosis were a *lifeline* back then, and I'm sick of that being treated as the same as faking a mental illness cuz it's FLIPPIN' QUIRKY!!!!
The irony that this is the video that made me unsub to Emkay after 3 years, even if it's with good intentions that kinda stuff ruins my day and I don't want to risk it coming up again for my own mental state.
But seriously thank you guys, this is the most people who actually understand self diagnosis I've ever seen at once
i am in support of EDUCATED self diagnosis- when people do research from actual medical resources to say "hey i probably have this thing". not only bc its not always a safe move to get official diagnoses when it comes to certain issues, but also because if you dont research and self diagnose as an adult, how r u gonna figure out u need to talk to a dr about the possibility of being tested? there certainly are a lot of people on tiktok who look at memes made by autistic people, relate to like three and decide they have autism, but that doesnt mean self diagnosis on the whole is evil
Yeah same for sure. It helps you recognize what to even look for. I would always state however that I believe I have it but haven't been professionally diagnosed if I were to self diagnose something.
I don't like the people that think they have ADHD though because they saw a tiktok that says you have a disorder because your room isn't clean because that can spread stigma that everyone can have it and that it's not a problem.
I sort-of self diagnose myself with adhd/autism but more as a Joke. im just saying this to myself. I didn't told anyone that i self diagnosed myself with this because i know It's stupid to asume without any knowledge. The reason why im /j'ing is because for whatever reason, when im alone, i just do the most random moves. I dont know If this is autism, adhd or Tourette, so im more jokingly self diagnose myself with it. I know it isnt the best way to cope with it, but again, im Just saying these things to myself because i know how stupid it is to asume without any knowledge. So, to any experts: May i have Something? Because these random moves arent normal. Im really Sure
Educated Self Diagnosed is still guessing but with slight research, it is not bad to self diagnosed but it is not good specially since Self Diagnosing will actually lead to developing an illness, thats why never self diagnosed even researched or educatedly as your own biased opinion will be completely different from a 3rd party.
I self diagnosed myself with autism only to later learn I had been diagnosed with autism but I just forgot lmao
@@vanirsama2186 kindly stfu. saying "yeah I'm pretty sure I have autism, I just haven't been able to get an official diagnosis" is not going to give you a complex or whatever tf you're trying to say there.
Just unsubbed from Emkay when I realized Robin isn't a bird talking
wait, he's not? 😭
How do you know
@@osheridanI heard him in a video he didn't want to chirp😡😡😡
@@unknown_cat6969 bc if he does he'll reveal he's actually a bird
He is a bird tho
What are you talking about
8:18 the guy who says “remove the gay flag.” Has a profile picture of Killua Zoldyck. He is a confirmed ally to to LGBTQ+ community because he supports his CANONICALLY transgender sister. Also there’s the fact that Killua and his best friend Gon were (I believe) supposed to have some sort of romantic relationship. The whole thing is just so ironic.
I think it's more that Killua has a thing for Gon, but Gon is platonic? Just my take though, don't know if there's any official source stating otherwise. But Killua's feelings towards Gon are pretty hard to deny.
i had no clue alluka was trans, however i think gon and killua’s relationship is platonic tho
also im pretty sure killua is the only one in the zoldycks to call alluka a girl, showing he has more respect for her being trans lol
@@TakoTrucker I totally understand, I like their dynamic no matter what their relationship is, but I was just pointing out something I had heard.
@@ForggyFan tbh it was kinda sus in the show, killua was saying stuff like “gon is light iself…”
As an ASC person and educator, there are many reasons a person might HAVE to be self-dx. First off, discriminatory diagnostic criteria that only identify traits for those of the white amab demographic, leading to AFAB, queer, and Black underdiagnosis. Second, many countries have diagnostic staff and professionals who are ableist, and have internalised ableism around symptoms and people of certain groups. Thirdly, diagnosis isn't always accessible. As the final reason I'm going to list, but far from the last one out there, being diagnosed with autism can influence people's other human rights which can even endanger them. For example I was fully eligible for a diagnostic assessment and would likely have gotten it if I went further (Doctor's words) but elected to remain self-dxed just a few weeks ago because I was concerned about my right to adopt, my right to immigrate, and my right to consent to gender affirming surgery - things currently under attack for diagnosed autistic people in several countries. As a side note, many professionals are supportive and understanding of self-dx. I'm not saying this to fight anyone! (And I won't if ppl reply to argue) just trying to make sure accurate information about self-dx is out there.
It's not people lying and going for attention and not being educated and avoiding professional dx for stupid reasons, and self-dx and faking a condition are not the same thing. I think people just need to come to terms with the fact there are more autistic people than historical statistics have indicated because stats have never accounted for underdiagnosis or asc child mortality rates etc. throughout history.
Literally this. People need to stop gatekeeping.
I am not reading that
@@annfischer8505k, I'll ping you when they make a children's picture book adaptation of the comment, seems like you'll have an easier time with that :]
All the other people in these comments are like “just talk to a doctor if you suspect autism!” but don’t realize that a doctor CANNOT diagnose autism without a full evaluation that costs over 30,000 USD, almost no one has that money just laying around. I don’t think “faking autism” is a thing.
@@m.nic.5080the waiting list in countries where it’s free is also really long and psychiatry is mainly focused on helping someone when the person who needs help is considered an inconvenience.
A note on self diagnosing:
There is also a BIG difference from googling symptoms to see if it’s a good idea to go to a psychologist (without telling anyone you have whatever you’re researching) and skimming the surface of the topic to then to post on TikTok about how ‘this thing is so autistic omg guys’
Edit: wow that’s a lot of people aaaahhhh
Agreed
"Without telling anyone"
Or, you know, a community where people are allowed to figure themselves out is also important. Especially if a professional diagnosis comes with risks, from your experience simply not being believed to a litany of government restrictions and other discrimination throughout your life
@QuikVidGuy Of course. I just mean not telling people you actually have the thing when you are unsure.
This. I've researched autism a lot. I have many obvious symptoms, such as a lot of sensory issues and poor social skills, but I haven't gotten diagnosed because my parents never go to the doctor for anything other than a like once a year checkup. Turns out, a kid in my class got diagnosed because their parents forced a diagnosis on them, even making up symptoms. He got special treatment while I tried to convince teachers that I did in fact have a disorder that I have like 14 symptoms of.
WELCOME TO AMERICA, WHERE NO ONE GOES TO THE DOCTOR AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM SUCKS ABSOLUTE ASS
fr omg, like im diagnosed by a doctor with autism and adhd, i also looked up symptoms for insomnia and asthma as im wondering if i have those or not due to tons of the same symptoms and my mother having them with both being genetic. i still have 0 clue about both, but not to long ago i did get tested gor asthma, havent heard back yet.
To be fair, I've had a lifetime adhd diagnosis, and I had a new doctor( no longer seeing them ). The doctor told me adults can't have adhd. So not all but some percentage of doctors got their job through nepotism and $$$$. Just saying.
I self diagnosed ADHD before I was actually diagnosed because I have been struggling my whole life and was missed by professionals because I’m smart. Took years of self advocacy until I was able to see a pediatrician that almost immediately confirmed my diagnosis. Big surprise, being on meds has vastly improved my school experience
THIS IS SO REAL DIAGNOSED A MONTH AGO🤘🏾 mom didn’t believe me bc “my grades were too high” but she still gave me shot about them(they were like high 80s-low 90s) but like I still felt like I wasn’t getting anywhere. I think that this is due to how my brother was diagnosed and his was more severe, and was getting much lower grades. I was the ‘golden child’ but still felt like I was stupid. Thanks for this post!
even with an autism diagnosis (got it 11 years ago) im still bring told im too smart to be autistic, there is so much abelism in the system thats supposed to help us that i stopped seaking help. im pretty sure i have adhd too, but i wont bother getting diagnosed at this certain moment after all the discrimination i have faced this year alone.
Sammeee omg I still haven't been able to diagnose professionally tho because it is very expensive 🙁
That's so bizarre, given how there's an enduring trope about how smart autistic people often are.
me irl
11:11 as a high schooler i can confirm they’re either one of us or they’re a lifeless, goon-addicted hermit in their late-twenties
4:33 As someone who was professionally diagnosed, I asked my therapists about self-diagnosis a few years ago and they unanimously said they supported it, to a degree. Medical costs are through the roof right now, especially in the therapy field, and the amount of misdiagnoses or people who get diagnosed as "normal" despite being clearly autistic is absolutely insane to me. There are many, many, MANY legitimate reasons not to get diagnosed. Fear, cost, failure on the diagnoser's part, etc.
I had my official diagnosis of Asperger's at 4 years old, but I know now that my diagnosis wasn't testing for also having ADHD, and I'm not spending 800+ dollars on a diagnosis when I can have one of my therapist friends determine that I do have it for free.
I feel like a diagnosis from a doctor is when you go from "different" to "disabled". I spent 20+ years wondering why crying people on TV always smile when they cry. Then I got married, and found out I genuinely can't read facial expressions properly. Pretty sure that's an autism thing, but I function normally and am very happy with my life, so I don't want to go to a doctor about it.
@@donald12998 Honestly, that's completely understandable too. I fully support those who just don't want to get a diagnosis because it would be more trouble than its worth, but I also recommend anyone who thinks they might have autism to take the RAADS-R test. It's free, takes 20-30 minutes, and can give you a good baseline without an official diagnosis.
Yeah, this "diagnosis only" culture really isn't about helping neurodivergent people, it's just about gatekeeping. :/
That's true. I was told I couldn't be autistic and was *kicked out of therapy* for faking because I'm a girl who can read 🙃 eventually got the diagnosis but if other autistic people hadn't been so welcoming in the meantime I don't know where I'd be
Other reasons people won't get diagnosed (specifically autism):
being afab/female
being non-white
not being a child
"Not relevant to programmer humor"
Even someone who isn't a programmer will probably get that Unicode joke, how did the _moderator of a programming sub_ not?
They could have just as easily Googled the term CSS, too. Literally the first things that pop up are about programming languages.
Maybe they were of that snobby opinion "html isn't a programming language" like, yes, you're technically right, but it's still related.
Yep, I’m not a programmer and I got that joke just fine lol
Yea the extent of my programming knowledge is pretty much what I learned in my 7th grade computer class and even I understood the joke. :/
@@myownprivatejoke "ackshually unicode and css aren't programming" i know the type
Considering that Reddit just made moderation a lot harder, I can't help but wonder how many of these subreddits are declining because of that.
12:16 no, no one is moderating anything because reddit changed their api which ended up forcing third party apps to leave the platform, and a lot of those third party apps were used to help moderate various subreddits.
So the answer is no because reddit made moderating more difficult.
4:31 as someone with autism (professional diagnosed) I say there is a difference between "I am in a situation where getting a professional diagnoses is difficult/I am in a group in which autism is often overlooked and I have done a ton of research into this topic to learn a piece of information about myself that will make my life easier" and "teehee, I act so OCD, lol"
Yeah. I have done research on the topic for many years now, heard from other autistic peoples experiences and relaying it back at my own life and experiences growing up and realised, that being autistic would make a toooooon more sense as to how many things in my life happened the way they did and how I react to certain things or behave the way I am and have always done. But I’ve heard soooooooooo many horror stories of those who get professionally diagnosed, like the fact some people feel humiliated, like they’re not taken seriously, due to being a minority they’re put on a higher standard, masking making people think “you can’t be autistic you’re not (insert stereotype/characters about young white boys causing chaos while being autistic)” and being treated differently after being diagnosed. It makes me fear so much to get tested. As well as in England the waiting lists on things like therapy and mental health and diagnosis as well as how underfunded and generally awful or hit and miss it is there can justifiably put people off and it can be a genuine reason to hold off getting a formal diagnosis or sometimes even hold off one all together. It’s wild. It’s like people put genuine self diagnosis through their own research on the same level of those who romanticise and paint a surface level understanding of mental health to make it a quirk instead of something genuine. It’s wild.
So so sorry for the rant.
Well, that's good to know at least. I've been wondering if I might have ADHD and/or autism for a while, and have been doing some research. I found a chart kinda thing that professionals apparently use to diagnose people and I went through and checked all the boxes for one type. (I forgot what it was called tho lol.) I still wanted to make sure, so I kept searching for other resources like that and the same chart kept popping up and kept giving pretty much the exact same context (used by professionals, here are some things that might "cause" it, but we don't really know for sure, etc.)
I also saw that the potential causes also sounded pretty familiar, since I had lived them (forgot most of them, too.... :1)
Besides that, I have also subbed to a few channels that regularly talk about those topics, compare the two, and give really helpful resources. This one lady I subbed to had typed out this really big chart full of typical autistic traits, gave extra info to fill in the gaps, and pointed her viewers towards a helpful quiz that you can take to determine your probability of having autism. She made it clear, however, that the quiz was not meant to be used for a self-diagnosis and was just meant to be used as a starting point for a talk with a professional.
On the chart she has, I identified with most of the traits, and I also have a friend with both ADHD and autism that I can relate to really well.
I had been thinking about seeing a professional for a while, but I completely forgot that things cost (way too much) money, and also my mom doesn't really like being dragged to doctor offices for any reason, and I don't feel like begging her to do something like that when I can go without an official diagnosis. Plus, I do really well in school anyway and I don't need additional resources, so I don't see a point.
I'm not going to outright say that I have either until I have a diagnosis. I don't know how long I'll end up waiting, or if I'll ever know for sure, but I'm not going to say I have a condition when I'm not 100% certain. And.. I mean, I doubt myself at every corner. :/
I managed to force my mom to diagnose my 3 siblings, just because I've done tons of research because something was off with myself. I feel like I'm too old for this and no one will take me seriously if I'll try to get my diagnosis just because I have a semi normal "life". Ohh and also it costs too much xD
Yeah that one made me angry as hell. I talked to my therapist about having suspected adhd in me due to a lot of reasons, and she said "Oh that's because of your depression, you don't actually have adhd" so I'll assume its illegal to have adhd in my country
THANK YOU. I KNOW I’m autistic, I’ve talked to people, I’ve done my research. I’d LOVE a diagnosis but I’d need parental consent, and I’m female, trans, queer, and disabled. No way in hell I’d ever get diagnosed.
jokes aside, message to to EmKay: "r/worldpolitics" is *serious* , yes, it's *seriously* full of memes and R34 images of anime/manga/game characters and sometines irl nudes and sometimes straight up p0яи from people who's grinding Reddit karma, and "r/anime_titties" is the one full of actual world politics. How it all happened still confuses me despite watching multiple videos of it's origins and explanations
Lol
0_o uh...
that's interesting,
but equally as baffling...
Yo, do you have some of those videos. Cause now I'm curious.
@@Bearman851 I don't, but you can just go to r/worldpolitics and look for them yourself, take note though, I noticed that shitposts and memes are increasing more and more and NSFW is decreasing(?)
just unsubbed from r/justunsubbed because a solid 90% of posts are whiny redditors mad that they were banned/removed (reasonably) from a group
lol
@@arstotzka6520Glory to Arstotzka.
That is the problem with r/justunsubbed its a breeding ground for what we call anti-redditors. Basically People who use and say they like using reddit but join the group because they blame reddit and find every possible reason to paint a subreddit in a bad light because they had a bad first impression or had a bad rub off with them when its not a normal occurrence weather that be because its a loyalist or literalist who cant tolerate anything going awry making one mistake a much bigger deal. Or there line riders who are doing things that are clearly to close to the line aggainst the rules and then use the fact that they are technically on the right side of the line despite touching it. When in reality other people can perceive it as wrong to be that close to the line since it may easily cross it in there eyes which then gets them in heat and they paint it as the subreddits fault when its there fault for going to close to the rules line and not expecting some heat for being that close and its not a mine field there is defined rules in most subreddits.
Like that Styrofoam when its mushroom individual outside looking in it looks bad but if you read the rules you would have known to put the context of the post and pin it in the comments and not leave it in the title even if there is nothing wrong with wording it like that. This is because Subreddits have a self imposed list of rules you have to follow to be a part of that community which is why reddit HEAVILY advises you read them first before posting or commenting in a subreddit to prevent exactly that from happening. I got hung up initially on this to but after some time you get used to it.
Which is my biggest complaint I only agree if its on the normal line of experience to make that reasoning valid if yours is a one off then its not a part of what we would call the normal experience and its probably you doing something you did that is to close to be or is against the rules of the subreddit. Or making a mountain out of a anthill, there are valid points but that's what that subreddit feels like from looking at it.
I looked at the sub and 90% were reasonably banned and a large amount of the rest just had me scratching my head saying "what did you expect?"
Such as "I left r/Ihatedogs because of all the dog hate." Like what did you expect the sub would be?
@@Badartist888 There was post about op celebrating his dog's death that he won't need the clean dog's sh"t, what?
The Biden comic is just literally a thing he said to a black guy once.
The self diagnosis post really bothered me. I’m American, and have autism, I’m professionally diagnosed, and I fully support educated self-diagnosis, however a lot of my friends can’t get diagnosed even though they show just as much symptoms as me, or a lot of my ADHD friends can’t either. Why? The fact that a diagnosis in the US is extremely expensive, their parents refuse to get them diagnosed cause they need to be “normal” or that the government is really ableist. Being against self-diagnosis, especially in the USA, is classist and ableist. A lot of people will never get diagnosed because either their healthcare system isn’t good enough or because their too poor.
I usually love Emkay videos, but like, this one just upset me.
Edit: felt like I should add that I’m AFAB, and that it’s harder for AFAB and POC’s to get diagnosed as their often seen as fakers, trying to be quirky, or something else, so it’s also to some degree sexist and racist. While I don’t think the Emkay staff or the poster really meant harm, being anti-self diagnosis is just… anti-minority.
Sorry if this is ranty, I’m just very opinionated about this
I'm confused on how the *post* (not the commentary) could be offensive in your context.
It specifically mentioned people who *fake* mental problems (eg. tics and roses) and didn't mention anything about self-diagnosis. And while i do think what robin said was out of pocket, i do think he meant people who put basic surface level research and just said "ok i guess i have autism now". That's likely why he said "i know it's easier said then done"
@@Lovangeline cause often times it’s just, someone thing people say when someone self diagnoses, that people are just faking. And you can’t really pin down if a person IS faking. As stuff like high-masking autism exist, or quiet BPD, as someone who HAS been fake claimed and is professionally diagnosed in *two* countries, fake claiming doesn’t help anyone. It’s just puts down other people
It's just that I see so many people nowadays say that they have self-diagnosed disorders that I automatically assume they don't because of the extremely high amounts of similar things I see.@@Cora-zona
@@nezzledneurodivergence is more understood than it was in the past, you do not know that person, and you cannot say if they are valid or not, unless you are a medical professional, and even then a lot of people who self diagnose can’t see a medical professional, for various reasons, poverty, lack of transportation, unsafe households, etc. Because things like autism are becoming less taboo more people are going to recognize that they fit the diagnostic criteria for it, that’s how stuff works.
Of course, but that's why I assume it's not the case. I'm not a medical professional, so I just assume otherwise.@@Cora-zona
3:30 While I get that people faking disorders can get annoying, I wouldn't just say "ALL self diagnosing is wrong!!" because there are many reason why a person might self diagnose, such as unsupportive parents, not enough money, no doctors that will do it near them. I myself suspect I have some form of ADHD or autism due to both being friends with diagnosed people, listening to diagnosed people, and researching diagnostic symptoms myself, while I don't say that I have autism, I do find myself feeling more comfortable in autistic spaces. The big reason I don't want to/can't get a diagnosis right now is due to the discrimination against those with autism, because I plan on moving out of the US whenever I can and a diagnosis can literally BAR me from immigrating to other countries.
(Sorry for the long comment just wanted to get my opinion out there, self-diagnosing is valid, if you have enough proof, and talk to diagnosed people if you suspect you might have it :) )
something that might help with the last problem you have is that you can request an unofficial diagnosis. my aunt is unofficially diagnosed with autism, meaning her psychologist told her she meets criteria but theres no papers saying she has it. it was just so she could personally know if she was autistic, and told me i should look into it as well
Yep, good riddance to that OP. If anyone was invading a safe space there, it was them. I'm also a professionally diagnosed autistic person, and I hate people who just shut down self-diagnosis because it makes them slightly uncomfy. Talk about ableism.
People OP was talking about usually don't have those problems. I see it all the time, wearing it like a jean jacket for a week before finding a new one because they think it looks cool. Best of luck to you and yours in the future, though!
honestly i live in the uk/scotland and am currently on the waiting list for a diagnosis and dude the process is so long like first i was referred with CAMHS a couple years ago for an assessment but since i opted out of their mental health stuff they took me off the list for that so my mum signed me up for another one abt a year ago and from what ik i won’t actually be assessed for at least another year and that’s only the assessment they still have to give me the actual diagnosis and meanwhile i’m still autistic whether or not some random doctor says i am like whether or not i’m diagnosed as autistic i still don’t understand alotta social cues, get overwhelmed easily by certain sounds levels or textures (or by me not being able to do specific stuff i planned/do often), get really emotionally drained after social situations (that one might be to do w/ a diagnosed chronic illness i have idk), when i do get overwhelmed i need to be completely alone and usually end up just kinda sitting on the floor aggressively stimming (sometimes in a self-injurious way like hitting myself), getting obsessed with certain topics to the point where i am not exaggerating when i say i can’t think abt anything else and yk i could go on and on but like yk at this point i’m technically self-diagnosed even if like half the ppl in my life have noticed and i’m on the list to be assessed but like i still experience all that and giving it a label, even if a doctor hasn’t yet, has done so much to help with everything and yeah i just don’t rlly see the point in gatekeeping from the undiagnosed (also we should probably talk abt the way white boys r a lot more likely to get diagnosed w/ autism than girls/non-white ppl cause of medical racism/sexism and cause girls r pressured alot harder to mask and when non-white ppl don’t mask they’re alot more likely to just be labelled as a problem child than get referred so yeah forcing the undiagnosed to stay out of autistic spaces is kinda lowkey racist/sexist given allat)
@@saturnisgay69 Yeah, I've been officially diagnosed this year (mostly bc I need it for accommodations during the exam at the end of high school bc it's results are what decides whether I can study what I want in uni) but I did it privately for this exact reason. I know a guy who got diagnosed in public system (that sucks in this sector btw) and it took him 5 years to get diagnosed (and he still admits that he was in the best position to have it done as a cis white young boy who displayed the most stereotypical symptoms when he was getting it done)
Pretty much every autistic who was "missed" as children were "self diagnosed" for some period of time in order to have the motivation to pursue an assessment, women being most prevalent. Self diagnosis is a large part of how people stay motivated & able to sustain self advocacy in order to actually attain a diagnosis. I had been misdiagnosed within an hour of meeting a pcp with borderline pd, which is a common way to dismiss chronic pain disabled (2/3 of autistic women suffer from chronic pain), the highest misdiagnosed condition, & very commonly misdiagnosed before autistic women are correctly diagnosed as autistic. Yes, some autistics have both, but its more likely that borderline pd was an incorrect diagnosis based on stigma. Ironically, the more a woman advocates, the more likely ableist providers will misdiagnose them with borderline pd, but the more likely an annoyed/empathetic provider will refer for an assessement. I got referred because my pcp was convinced it would confirm bpd & shut me up, but no bpd traits were even found & i got my autism diagnosis!
Imo, pcps should not be allowed to diagnose mental health conditions, since they don't have the time/resources/experience to accurately do an assessment. For personality disorders, it takes someone specialized in them & months worth of sessions before they will diagnose someone with a pd. They know how stigmatized pds are & its not something they do casually. Unlike my pcp who heard me ask for an autism assessment, to take up prescribing of my ADHD meds, & crying for pain management for my back pain that had just been diagnosed in the ER (lower lumbar lipomatosis, a fatty mass due to steroids pressing on lower spine), all in an hour, & decided I was faking my ADHD & had borderline pd (cuz of the crying?). Then a bunch of psychologists who also didn't bother to do an assessment, heard me say "I'm autistic & need a referral for the official diagnosis, but also need to redo my ADHD diagnosis so I can get back on meds", talked to me for an hour as I was slightly teary about the gaslighting medical care I had been experiencing, & they ultimately just went with the pcp's opinion, as if they hadn't listened to a thing I said.
It took multiple providers before I could get someone to take me serious, with the autistic community supporting me & keeping me motivated the whole time, & my family dismissing me as attention seeking. After I got my official diagnosis, the autism community were the only ones who congratulated me, meanwhile my family wondered how I conned the psychologist into my diagnosis. It was only when my mom's pcp suspected she had ADHD & put her on meds that they started to believe me.
The fact is, even if someone is wrong about their diagnosis, if they have similar traits that made them think they might be autistic, they can benefit from the support of the community & self help suggestions. Autism isn't just autism, as comorbid conditions are very common, cPTSD/anxiety/pain/GI issues/ARFID/etc. I do think someone should be diagnosed BEFORE giving autism specific advice or claiming they are some kind of expert, but as long as they are honest about self diagnosis & maintain a goal of an official diagnosis (on wait list, trying to find someone to do referral, were misdiagnosed due to stigma/inexperience/over making & trying to find someone who specializes in autism assessments, or saving up funds to pay for assessment), I have no problem with self diagnosed individuals seeking help from the autism community (as long as that space isn't for some reason official diagnosis only, which would be frankly misogynistic & classists, probably filled with a holes who cling to neurotypical passing supremacist Nazi terms). I think a bigger problem for our community is the incel community targeting vulnerable autistic boys/men (often negected/spoiled by entitled parents who infantilize children, thinking they aren't capable of learning right from wrong, weaponizing their internalized ableism from neurodivergent generational trauma), thus cutting off such a huge chunk of our population from our community, from having healthy/fulfilling relationships, reducing options for neurodivergents seeking autistic male partners, ultimately decreasing neurodivergent genetics in future generations (Autism $peaks influence?), & autistic incels often being asp-supremacists who weaponizing their internalized ableism toward "lower functioning" autistics.
Yes, people who fake having disabilities & are misunderstanding aurism does harm how neurotypicals see us, but ableists are gonna make excuses to deny our existence with or without fakers. If the community as a whole pushed for self diagnosed to not platform themselves as experts or giving advice to other autistics (questioning, self diagnosed, or diagnosed), it should be enough to keep well intentioned from causing harm. Those who continue still would invalidate themselves & be less the autistic community's problem & more society's problem as a whole. The attention seeking/insecurity/pathological lying is a social symptom based on the low priority & stigmatization of mental health care. They could have just as likely landed on claiming to be a millionaire who needs a loan or faking cancer.
This 100%
Absolutely agree
This need to be posted and reposted repeatedly on every autistic person’s social media page. I was privileged enough to be diagnosed with high functioning autism at age 3 due to being AMAB so no social stigma and being from a rich enough family to be able to not only afford the diagnosis but to be able to drive out to Atlanta to even get diagnosed since that was where the closest place that could diagnose me is (over 4 hours away). Now that I’m almost 20 I’m trying to get re diagnosed and to possibly find out other possible co morbidities. This exact reason is why I wanted to go into phycology as a backup carrier if programming didn’t work out but now I know that higher ed is just filled with people who p hack their papers to lie with statistics or even get them published in the first place. Because if you don’t publish enough papers you don’t get a job and most people who try to replicate studies or prove anything that goes against the scientific consensus get rejected from being published and phycology is one of the worst fields in this problem. I no longer wish to work in an industry this dirty anymore.
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!
4:28 the reason im for self diagnosis (beyond passive googling, of course, actual research) is that, especially in people who are not white male children, autism gets ignored or misdiagnosed ALL THE TIME. People live YEARS of their lives having fallen through the system for not fitting what autism "looks like" to an outsider. Doctors are incredibly well studied and whatnot, but they are still humans capable of bias. Getting to the doctor is wicked pricey, of course, but there's also the distinct chance they'll either ignore your symptoms or misdiagnose you. On top od of that, there's very real concern regarding how you are treated if autism is on your med history. Autistic people tend to be infantilized, we are expected to be akin to children. Its gross. And autism in your med history can make it hard for you to do things like, says for example, join the military.
even with a diagnoisis as an afab person, with all the trauama and dicrimination i got from the danish psychiatric /free healthcare system i wish i was never diagnosed.
...none of these are good reasons for self diagnosis
3:28 As someone who was recently diagnosed with autism, I would like to point out that many people self-diagnose because the doctor isn't an option. Me, my family, and the vast majority of the medical professionals I have seen, agreed that I almost certainly had autism. Even so, I was only diagnosed recently, because I live in america and testing is only for the wealthy and powerful (because health, closure, knowing your needs, etc. is only for the wealthy and powerful). The UK has a similar issue with ADHD (something I also have), apparently it's almost impossible to get diagnosed with ADHD over there because fuck you. Diagnosis is a privilege that few people get. I spent years getting told horrible things, because I didn't have a piece of paper from the doctor (because I grew up poor, and the only reason I'm not poor now is because my mom is a genius who managed to get a government job). I spent so many years suffering because people want to gate-keep my brain. My anxiety, ADHD, autism, depression, and even the suicidal thoughts, were all things I was accused of faking because I 'didn't seem the type'. I understand that this is an issue, but I think not enough people understand how painful it is to have your everyday experiences, suffering, and struggles invalidated like that.
Edit: Oh, and sorry for the unsolicited essay, I just feel very passionate about this due to my painful past experiences with the topic.
I know this is a 9 month old comment, but seriously thank you for actually writing this. I was diagnosed with ADHD at a young age (I'm now 19), but as I get older I'm almost certain I'm autistic as well. But I can't get tested, despite it making my life much more difficult at the moment. I'm to afraid to ever say it online, either, lest anyone attack me for being a "self diagnosed faker"
A tragic world we live in, huh?
"Just unsubbed to r/JustUnsubbed." Imagine that happening LMAO
Where do you post that? Redditception? Is that a thing?? So many questions
Just unsubbed from r/JustUnsubbedFromJustUnsubbed
Gelatin?
@@Awsmoe-Cat-DrawingGelatin!
That has happened once
While faking is horrible, as many people have said, many people who self-diagnose are not faking. One reason I've not seen anyone really talk about is that in some countries, accessing healthcare such as gender affirming healthcare can be made a lot more difficult if you have a diagnosis for autism or some mental health disorder. You can straight-up just be denied treatment for having these, so for a lot of people it's not worth going for a test even if they can, because it is less important than other healthcare they may need to them.
Thanks for talking about that
Yeah I’ve heard a few horror stories of that happening in Ireland, which is part of the reason I’ve not tried to get officially diagnosed yet
Thag does happen in the US
"You're autistic? You're not trans then, it's just your social confusion."
Or maybe me questioning arbitrary limitations and social habits led me to have a better understanding that I'm not cis?
Not sure trans healhcare bans count against diagnosis per se. You are required to get tests for autism, depression regardless. The goal is to deny care, not safegaurd the mental health of the patient.
More relevant is that a formal autism diagnosis can make it harder to flee countries imposing bans on trans healthcare. Many countries bar immigrants with disabilities: including Canada and Australia.
@@QuikVidGuysaaame (nb)
I have to be self diagnosed. Being AFAB and trans means I will be overlooked.
And ever since I started not forcing myself to act allistic, my life has improved so much.
Masking sucks
Because this is the internet, I’ll share my unsolicited opinion. There’s also one video by a trans man, I don’t remember the name, which goes over the topic well. Something like “I got an autism diagnosis for this video”, “the politics of autism diagnosis” or something, I don’t remember. But it goes over how ‘well what’s the point of a diagnosis, if I’m not going to get treated either way, do I need a label to just be ‘me’, does it need to be medicalised’, so on.
I feel like the diagnosis is just a label, but so are the terms that come with it. Autism is a specific name for a diagnosis, allistic is another specific name. Many people suffer from acting in ways they don’t want to because of society, many people repress their weirdness and feel worse for it. I feel like limiting that weirdness to a specific diagnosis can make it less accurate to your personal experiences. If it is a condition, it also may not be autism, it may be other conditions with similar symptoms that are less well-known, so writing it off as autism might miss other traits rather than just leaving it unlabelled but acknowledged.
The medical labels tend to only be useful once there is a diagnosis. Before that, it’s better to find ways to describe experiences rather than try to group a bunch of experiences under one label like autism. “I have trouble with strong sensory effects”, “I struggle with making eye contact” “I struggle with social interaction because I misinterpret people” are all better at communicating your individual experiences rather than just dismissing it as autism, as even autism manifests differently in people, some people have none of the traits listed above. And even if you don’t have autism, you can still end up in autism communities due to shared traits, with or without the label.
If you do have the resources, get it checked. The AFAB thing does lower likelihood of diagnosis but being trans tends to raise the chance back up. Not having autism doesn’t make your struggles any less real and having an autism diagnosis doesn’t make the struggles any better. I think the Emkay narration was a bit off there, it was fully dismissive of self-diagnosis.
@@midnight4685 a. Its not weirdness. When you are autistic your brain is wired differently and even parts of your body acts differently. We are more likely to have gastrointestinal issues for example.
b. I will not use other labels because _I AM AUTISTIC_ . For years, literal years, I thought I was stupid. I thought I was just unpleasant. Picky, needy. An annoyance.
But I am none of that. I dont get social cues because my brain didnt come prepackaged with that information. I am not overly picky because my sensory issues are an actual real thing and me getting overwhelmed and having meltdowns is my body responding to very real painful stimulus.
@@midnight4685 Also a lot of us prefer autistic and not has autism. Because, we are autistic. We didnt pick it up like a bag on the side of the road and you cannot separate us from it.
The way we act, think, walk, even perceive the world is different from anyone who is allistic. Heck, we even have a higher rate of being trans or having atypical gender expression.
And yea, surprise. We arent a monolith. Its almost like we are a group of people with some shared traits and then differences. And fluctuating traits too, depending on how well we slept or our mental health energy levels.
And frankly, so what if someone ends up in an autistic community if they arent autistic? Like, if they feel safe and respected, seen? If the resources we share helps them?
Who cares?? Lord knows the most common one, ADHD, isnt taken seriously by a lot of other places.
@@midnight4685 "If you do have the resources, get it checked. The AFAB thing does lower likelihood of diagnosis but being trans tends to raise the chance back up"
Im agender. And I dont want to take hormones. Maybe top surgery? But yea, my presentation is very middle line or feminine leaning. My life in every medical area will always be a struggle, unless I can get a female or feminine presenting doctor.
"having an autism diagnosis doesn’t make the struggles any better."
For some no. For others, if they are in a bad environment it can make it worse.
But for me? For many others? It did make it better. It made it easier. Knowing who you are, being able to find communities and others who wont talk down to you and offer actual advice? That helps a lot.
@@midnight4685 Please look up ASAN, Autistic Self Advocacy Network.
By autistic people, for autistic people.
10:48 It could be that the braindead mods thought "Mushroom Kingdom" was a mario joke
11:40 the funniest/worst part is that in English, there's a pronoun for animals and objects, it's called "it"
my god dude exactly
exactly what I'm thinking
it is acceptable, and they isn’t even really that jarring when used for pets. people get so tied into knots about gendering animals correctly and I just don’t get it, the animal literally doesn’t care
Sometimes it just sounds a bit stranger? Like, you hear “it’s a very good boy” less.
@@FoghornProductions-eg8ji.. you said boy. thats cause if its a boy, people would call them a “he”. cause its a boy.
19:39 this moderator recently had their account permanently suspended and honestly the website is better for it, spreading political agendas and banning those who disagree wasn’t the only thing they did.
If an account is permanently suspended, then shouldn't it be banned instead of suspended?
@@nevaehhamilton3493I think it prevents impersonations
@@Lover_of_ebrietas yeah.
Ohh it's awkward the turtle
they will not be missed
Part of why I am perfectly fine with people self diagnosing is that unfortunately if someone is a teen theor parents need to take them to get tested. And i know of an unfortunate amount of people who were diagnosed as adults (after being pretty sure for years) cause the parents didn't listen when the kid/teen said something was wrong or didn't want a "different" child. So along woth cost and accessibility once your an adult i cant help but wonder how many self diagnosed teens do have something going on, but cant legally get it checked out.
3:51 I was diagnosed with OCD when I was 7 and THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS. I get so tired of hearing people say “im so ocd” about random shit that has absolutely nothing to do with the disorder 💀
I’m going to a doctor after 5 years because I was too scared to say “I have OCD” to someone 😭😭 genuinely I know that not all self diagnoses are fake but some people..
3:34 i think it should be important to remember that not everybody who self-diagnoses is faking. tests can be expensive, or they could be a minor and their parents refuse to get them tested, it's not just that anybody who isn't diagnosed must be faking. also, in my opinion, i don't really think it's invading a safe space, you're still allowed to be there and nobody is taking it away. (this is not meant to be rude/malicious btw .^.)
edit: i want to add that there are certain drawbacks to getting an official diagnosis, like the fact that many countries (including "progressive ones" like the netherlands and new zealand) have bans againt allowing high support needs autistic people to enter the country, as disabilities are viewed as a burden on the healthcare system
Yes, it’s so important to think about this. No, I’m not just claiming I have OCD because I like to organize things and like patterns, I claim I have OCD because of my extreme medical anxiety and the compulsive acts I do to cope with said anxiety. The people who really care do their research!
Yess!! Exactly!!I used to be self diagnosed since a while ago because I was a minor afraid of talking to people but I had done 5 years of research
if you look at the statistics for self diagnosed autism specifically , /most/ people who self diagnose are right to do so , and later are able to get an official diagnosis specifically because they did research to make sure beforehand . very often if you are in a marginalized group , doctors simply will not believe you unless you already have a mountain of evidence to your defense , because doctors can be swayed just as much by stereotypes as the rest of us
edit: spelling
Hi bullshit, I'm liar
Especially when it seams like sometimes all it takes for people to say your faking is to share a good moment you were having
that last one basically summed up my experience on Reddit.
i don't know why, but out of every social media website, Reddit is probably the most hostile one i've been on.
i had a Reddit account for a few months, only made like, four posts and a handful of comments, and every post i made had some kind of hate comment.
i post a picture of my kitten in R/Aww, and the first comment i got was someone saying they want to stomp on him, and other people calling me cringey because i called him my baby, saying things like "people who call their pets their children have serious issues, because that's not a child, that's an animal"
i post screenshots of me getting cyberbullied to R/Extremely Infuriating (for context, i called myself a maggot, aka a Slipknot fan, on a RUclips video, and someone commented "replace the m with an f and we have what you are") and the first comment on the Reddit post was "when the title is cringe" (referring to me calling myself a maggot) and the entire comment section was people telling me it's apparently cringey to be part of a fanbase... not calling me a poser or anything like that, but the act of calling myself a member of a fanbase, wanting to belong to a community, wanting to find people like me, apparently that is cringey, and of course there were people calling me a snowflake because i didn't like being called a homophobic slur, even if it was a joke.
i don't know what it is about Reddit and breeding the most hostile people, but after that shit and breaking down about it to my therapist, i decided to delete my account and all my posts, because that wasn't good for my mental health.
and i know, i sound like a crybaby because a few hate comments caused me to have a mental breakdown, but don't judge people, you don't know what the fuck they've been through.
y'know, and the stupid mods making up bullshit rules didn't help me either, like i wanted to post a funny screenshot of my search history of stupid questions i have right before bed on R/MeIRL, and i tried to title it "the search history of an idiot" but for some reason, it had this rule where i could only title it variations of "Me_IRL"... like, what kind of rule even is that!? or i got my account temporarily banned because i apparently made too many comments right after making my account.
Christ man. Sorry you had to go through that.
Womp womp
people on reddit are highly hostile to new users and others who don’t fall in line with the site culture, it’s really gross. you’re expected to know the etiquette before you even show up and slight misunderstandings get you shit all over. I was on the site for many years and found myself frustrated with other redditors basically the whole time. It’s a machine to generate pointless arguments
Because Reddit is a hive mind and they do not like being challenged. Say anything that goes against the majority and prepare to be down voted into oblivion. Not to mention the amount of mods that are on power trips these days.
@@rewritefan123 what the fuck is wrong with you?????
2:24 i mean the subreddit is called ILLEGALYsmolcats
you make a valid point
hello as someone who has diagnosed mental disorders and previously was self diagnosed with said mental disorders, there is a huge difference between actual research and then self diagnosing and seeing a tiktok saying "these things mean you have [disorder]" and running with it. many people cant talk to therapists because of money, family situations, or even fear of being made fun of or isolated from friends/family due to misconceptions and assumptions based on mental illnesses. it's okay to self diagnose as long as you do a *lot* of research, and don't say that you have it 100%. [saying "i self diagnose with bpd" instead of saying "i have bpd"]
I haven't been officially diagnosed, but my mother (who has been a CNA for as long as I've been alive and correctly diagnosed my cousin with autism) says that I have many symptoms of Asperger's Syndrome and I consider myself to have it because I have like 95% of the symptoms. Before I learned what it was, I gaslit myself SO HARD into thinking I was just too 'weird' or something to be understood by other people and now that I've been unofficially diagnosed I feel like a burden has been lifted from my shoulders. I support self-diagnosis as long as there is a clear basis for the claim.
About the self diagnosis thing
If someone genuinely just doesn't understand the condition fully and assumes they have something because of a few small traits, yeah, that's not great
But I feel this kind of overlooks the fact that assigned female at birth people and people of colour frequently are not believed by doctors about problems they have and are often accused of faking it or exagurating because of prejudice
Exactly, self diagnosis is valid when the person has done their proper research and analyze their symptoms in an unbiased medical sense.
@@moon-moth1it's funny that those supposed experts will outright refuse to diagnose adults bc they actually know jackshit about diagnosing autism in high masking adults and afab individuals.
The number of self diagnosed autists in the autism community is ridiculously high for exactly those reasons and more.
I trust other autistic people sharing their experience more than someone who tells people they can't be autistic bc they didn't have a speech delay as a child or aren't constantly avoiding eye contact.
I would also like to point out that in the US. It is bloody expensive to visit a doctor so many are unable to get a proper diagnosis.
Also the diagnosis of ASD has only been expanded recently since the removal of Asperger’s from the DSM-5. Asperger’s was not an actual disorder and was way too narrow of a diagnosis that people on the spectrum were not diagnosed. I was first evaluated in 2011 and despite having many autistic characteristics on my report I was not diagnosed. I’m clearly autistic and I’ve researched a lot into it.
Also an autism diagnosis can have some serious ramifications, like making it impossible to emigrate, and many states allow forced sterilization of disabled people.
11:38 First thing that comes to mind when seeing something like this is a rule I learned from English class, we call animals "it" unless we know their gender then we say either he or she
“Women are not getting out of the house.” DAMN AUTOCORRECT
I think the reason subreddits no longer are being modded correctly, its because the "free volunteers" aka moderator had an api change and either quit or was removed
Yeah. It's just they removed also most modding tools so alot of subs can't be modded properly due to this issue and it sucks
they had a temper tantrum for two days and then gave up
@@TheJinx64 wrong. It was a week then reddit forced them to open or every moderator of privated subs would lose their moderator role.
@@GTHB. i used reddit during that time, it was three days.
@@TheJinx64 it was an agreed 3 days after that reddit issued the mod removal notice. At the end of the week everyone returned
I unsubbed from r/learnjapanese. I got dog piled once because people didn't understand the difference between first person and third person speech. It came up because in Japanese people(mainly women and children) will sometimes speak about themselves in third person rather than first person(Kyoko is going to the store vs I am going to the store). It was at the point I realized there was no benefit to being in that subreddit.
im sorry that happened to you. Learning Japanese is so much fun!! I hope you find the fun in it as well
the funny thing about those kind of resource/help communities is there's always an infestation of people that just sit around and put others down for literally just being a beginner. to make themselves feel better i guess? what a sad existence
@@LilacMonarchthat's all of reddit. It's a smug factory.
Karera wa yasashikunai (a lil' Japanese I learned from Duolingo, translates to "they are not nice/kind")
@@Janky_Gamer google translate says "they sum not kind"
As a currently self diegnosed autistic woman who has been struggling to even find someone who i can get i diegnosis from for about 8 months. Not everyone is faking just because the they arent diegnosed, and most people who do self diegnose do actually do proper research.
I personally spent a good month doing indepth research into the official symptoms and diegnosis criteria and thinking very deeply about whether or not they actually applied to me, and i have not stopped my efforts to learn more
5:03 r/worldpolitics is NOT a political sub. It was for a while, but it had a bit of an anarchist breakdown sometime a few years ago and now it's an nsfw s-posting playgorund famous for having hentai, thots, at least one woman who woohoo'd a cactus, and any number of memes usually involving grimdark themes. Or plant gang. Anything politically-minded usually gets bombed unless its actually remarkable or at least meme-able.
The person who unsubbed from r/animalcrossing is just upset because they don’t have friends
💀
or a balloon.
@@sopcannon I want a balloon tbh
@@sopcannon balloons are nice lol, that too
I haven't played in awhile but you don't even need friends there is (or was) an option to open your island up to have random visitors, or to visit random people.
As a diagnosed autist, I do believe self-diagnosers, especially AFAB self diagnosers. Doctors VERY OFTEN misdiagnose AFAB people, and people know more about themselves than I do.
Right. My kid was diagnosed at 12 because the school suggested it and I went in and specifically told the doctor this is what the school thought. There's no real diagnostic test. It's basically have you done, do you do, these things. If mostly yes than autism. So as far as autism goes, in older people, (not babies) a self diagnosis is just as valid as the doctor.
But if you're going to need services, you have to get a doctor's diagnosis, and the earlier the better. There were some services my kid didn't qualify for because they weren't diagnosed as a toddler, even though they would have benefitted from them.
@@jeffreycauwels1974 What offensive terms?
@@jeffreycauwels1974There’s not any offensive terms in there
@@jeffreycauwels1974 As someone that has autism, I have to ask, how are people with autism referred to as then?
@@jeffreycauwels1974I mean… So has “Autistic”, and using that word is fine.
My mom was told I was most likely on the autism spectrum before I was born, idk how true it was. But personally I have noticed many attributes about my self that may put me on spectrum. The only reason I don’t know if I am or not is because I have ableist parents. They refuse to think anything is “wrong with me” when I’m pretty sure I have something.
7:50 i think that's a 1st(gold), 2nd(silver/iron), 3rd(bronze) place stand.
Tbh it looks really simple and so obvious i think that's the reason it's upvoted since anyone else can do it and no offense to the 2nd guy the city on treads is cool and all, but the 1st picture is hilariously simple and funny.
Yeah, I mean, the RightCantMeme/LeftCantMeme was never about it being funny/unfunny, it was just about memes that make no sense.
Am surprised people dont understand what that post even means tbh considering it's a Joe Biden quote 🤔
@under-dog5390 Is it though? Sounds more like a strawman to me.
@@paigemosher8697 It is. Google "Biden Apologizes for Saying Black Voters ‘Ain’t Black’ if They’re Considering Trump" it will give you a new york times article.
@@paigemosher8697 It's a Joe Biden quote from his own mouth and on video... I dont think you know what strawman means.
6:47 Ok, that mod for r/programmerhumor clearly does not actually understand anything about either programming or humor.
Those mugs are both _awesome_ (and pretty much a textbook example of what the group is _supposed to be for_ ).
4:17 as a diagnosed autistic person who started off self diagnosed- diagnosis is a privilege. Especially in the US not everyone can afford to go to a doctor. As a rich white person it was super easy to get diagnosed but very very few people have that privilege, especially POC and woman who are constantly being misdiagnosed because many doctors actually think that woman and POC can’t be autistic.
Google is your best friend
@@trashman11 what the fuck does this mean 💀
@@Kazpberryyou know what it means
Just a quick comment about the map at 9:05: It says that apostasy and blasphemy are a crime in Germany and some other European countries. In most (all?) of these countries apostasy is NOT illegal and you even have a right to it. Blasphemy is a crime (at least here in Germany), but it is not specific to one belief. If you insult someone's religion (or not-religion), you can face charges, no matter what religion.
Edit: Typo
Just remember when it comes to self-diagnoses, its also a class thing.
I got 1 step away from a diagnosis when the money ran out. So yes I was even sent to a therapist for people with autism by my doctor. So remember. It's a big difference of 'omg I'm so autistic lol'
And 'I literally don't have the money for the diagnosis but my doctor is treating me as if I am diagnosed so yes I tell people I am autistic because it helps people understand'
I personally self-diagnosed with autism before getting hit with an official diagnosis of autism AND adhd 😭 double-whammy man.
3:17 that "HELL YEAH" was powerful
The problem with autism is, an adult diagnosis costs thousands of dollars and I am broke af.. I am self-diagnosed because there's no other explanation for everything..... It's unfortunate that I have to only be self-diagnosed, but trust me if someone gave me thousands of dollars to go to a doctor I would.
This is a very good subreddit because it exposes the worst parts of other subs that we typically don't pay enough attention to
It’s actually not, it’s filled with hate and bigotry
@@Smileyreal Fr and sometimes they have the stupidest reasons to leave a subreddit.
go ask r/countonceaday what they think of it
@@TuxedoDogss Why would you tell anyone to go to countonceaday?
I kinda want to think that this one has a dark side that IT doesn’t expose since it’s the one who exposes.
Edit: it does
0:30 I petsit a really chunky outdoor cat. He wasn’t always that chunky so I asked his owner about it. The owner let out the longest sigh and said “yeah, we think someone else in the neighborhood has been feeding him so he’s getting double the food.”
We don’t know who’s feeding him, but it’s a pain in the ass. The cat can still run around just fine, but the fact that someone in the neighborhood is causing him to be over fed is still annoying.
As a person who's been diagnosed with OCD since I was young, im glad to hear someone FINALLY say something about everyone claiming they have OCD because they don't like a pattern on a wall or the direction the toilet papers facing.
Remember fellas, Self-diagnosis ≠ faking it
Just make Sure to get a proper diagnosis as soon as you can.
As someone who actually has OCD, people who use OCD as a personality quirk “haha I’m so OCD” make me a bit upset lol. You organise your pencils in rainbow order because you like to be organised. I organise my pencils in rainbow order because if I don’t do it within the next 20 minutes I’ll never get a good job. If I ignore the impulse, it feels like the universe just fundamentally changed and now I actually legitimately won’t ever get a good job. It’s not fun. It’s not quirky.
same here dude, stay strong 😭
Same here. And then, when you call them out for it, they start going on about how people with OCD can display those symptoms, and trying to make it look like you’re the bad guy.
Regular perfectionism, which is what they are always talking about, is very, very, VERY different from disordered perfectionism. Disordered perfectionism tends to cause distress, or is an obsession, and is found in people with conditions like Autism, OCPD [A personality disorder based around an obsession with perfection, control, etc], and OCD. One is a developmental disability and the other two are mental disorders. Mental illness and disabilities are not funny. They are not something to make jokes about. They are medical conditions. Making jokes about these conditions harm people with them, whether or not you admit that, because it causes people to not understand them properly and how they make those with them feel. If you keep calling basic perfectionism OCD, then people will think that OCD is just basic perfectionism.
If you make a joke about it and, when called out, start trying to make the person who called you out look bad, you are a disgusting person. You don’t have OCD, you are a regular human being when it comes to perfectionism, but you should still absolutely see a therapist because something is clearly wrong with you.
Stay strong, king.
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Self diagnosis of autism is medically supported. Not everyone has the privlage of talking to a doctor.
The self diagnosis one, we have one who has self diagnosed with ADHD at work, it annoys the supervisor who is diagnosed because she’ll say ‘oh it’s my ADHD.’
I normally wouldn’t disagree with adopt don’t shop, but I think my dad has a special case. He has severe allergies to dander of basically every furry/feathered animal and cannot handle any mixed breed, cat breed, and most dog breeds. The only way he is able to have the dogs he loves is if we buy purebred Standard poodles because they are, thus far, the only breed that doesn’t cause him to stop breathing. I absolutely recommend adopting rather than buying, but if you have a circumstance like my dad, I recommend doing your research on ethical breeders and the health of your future dog. Otherwise, be a rescue parent, the experience is incredibly rewarding and your pet will be forever grateful!
same ! i agree with adopt dont shop to an extent as some people cant always adopt
Or be like my family, where you've been given the red mark by cat society and now strays just show up constantly. We haven't adopted a cat in over a decade, and we have _8_ of the things.
Well, your dad could buy one of those sphinx cats aswell
Ways people can help reduce pet overpopulation that isnty adoption:
- support/go to good locally owned/small business vets so they can thrive (corporate buyout of vets is rising veterinary costs)
- vote for policies and people that reduce human poverty
- use money wisely to go to good business that support their workers and pay a fair wafe
- help with a trap and release programs (tnr, tvhr)
- donate to local groups helping low income folk
- encourage shelters to reduce barriers for adoption to low income folk (and other folk like apartment dwellers that get denied for not having a fenced yard/etc) so they can adopt instead of going to breeders (Google "pet adoption gate keeping" 😵💫. ), E.g. excessive gatekeeping drives people to breeders and community sources.
- support groups that help sterilize pets, but also encourage them to also offer vastecomy/tubal ligation/ovary sparing spays particularly for dogs considering the emerging research around medical and behavior issues due to removing hormones (see parsemus foundation page on hormone sparing sterilization more info, tldr: increased joint/muscle issues, possible overall more cancer, and anxiety (which shouldn't surprise most people considering it's fairly well known issue in humans with low hormones). Behavior and medical issues increases rates of being rehomed :x or put down.
Pet overpopulation, at least dog and cat, is a side effect of a human issue in many respects, it's hugely socioeconomic, particularly for dogs -- in that living in poverty significantly more increases their rates of behavior and medical issues (tho many low income folk are amazing owners) -- more tendency to be living outside, be neglected, higher risk overall. Medical and behavior issues increase risks of rehoming, and harder to place. The breeds also tend to be less desirable so harder to place also. Then add in housing and financial insecurity, and breed and pet restrictions... Also, tend to be intact/not sterilized -- some data around having hormones vs not is actually probably poverty vs not, like some lifespan data (intact dogs dieing sooner from infection.. because their more likely to not have good vet care and more likely living outside).
So tldr: people's individual actions outside of adoption have more effect on overpopulation then most realize, and adoption is a bandaid -- addressing what drives animals ending up in shelters and abandoned is key. So, someone going to a breeder may be net helping to reduce overpopulation then someone adopting depending on other actions outside of how acquired an animal 🤷♂️
Without even getting into how people who need a support animal can't reliably adopt because of very specialized needs, shelters will straight up lie about where they're getting some of those dogs. Quite a few buy the dogs from breeders themselves and not to "rescue" them.
16:18 The joke is that he joined a while back but because he has Alzheimer's, he forgot he subscribed and unsubbed.
It is a joke post.
Personally, I think it should have been posted on r/jokes.
I thought Alzheimer’s was the thing that makes people quake uncontrollably
@@Dirnaldmabin354 Are you thinking of Parkinson's disease?
@@gravyz2cute4u I think I am
i wanted to comment but i forgot the answer
@@gravyz2cute4u Nah he just forgot the definition
8:55 in my country people have been kidnapped/imprisoned/disappeared because of their religion/political opinions and the best case scenario of what happens to those people are *only* getting their genitals ripped off
And yet somehow the US is worst for atheists? Yeah, sure. That redditor clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.
14:12 Man, knowing my f***ing skin's existence drives a wedge between friends and families that don't need to be there does indeed make me smile!
The programmer humour one makes me feel so sad
Same
@@buisbo1240 Basically a character encoding standard that makes almost all characters (like letters, numbers and symbols across multiple languages) accessible across different platforms, programs, and devices. I hope that helps you understand the joke better 🙂
@@gravyz2cute4u The other part about this is that unicode specifically has a lot of problems with compatability towards fonts. Making that many glyphs takes time, and often the only way to get emojis as a font choice is to have a corporation pay specifically to have glyphs designed for it.
What this adds up to is that if you have any custom font by a smaller author then youre going to go up against long strings of boxes(as a placeholder) when looking at arabic or literally any language with more letters than english in the best case, and in the worst case it only supports the ASCII scheme and reading anything more complicated than lorem ipsum might be as difficult as trying to read a freshly painted brick wall .
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14:56 this is probably happening because reddit has announced that the awards are going away, so everyone who has an award is just giving them to ramdom posts and comments
In the case of "chonkers" not every one is a irresponsible pet owner, we had a cat, and we had him on expensive diet food, we tried EVERYTHING trying to get him to lose weight. It turns out he had a severe thyroid issue, my beautiful boy lived to be 20, and was never under 19 lb. I miss him every day.
RIP Peek-a-Boo (aka Moosecat)
Also as someone who has been through the grueling test, to be diagnosed on the autism spectrum. It is extremely frustrating to have people "self-diagnosed" and spread misinformation, it's highly irresponsible and this faking disorders thing is really weird.
7:57 I LOVE it whenever I see Mortal Engines post. I am slightly salty that this person has managed to make a Minecraft traction town better than most of mine, but I'm happy because its given me new building tips and, again, I love seeing posts about Mortal Engines.
It's just a really cool book series with crap tonnes of world building. I cannot stress enough, how much is hinted at in the expanded lore.
13:16 The person who posted the monkey deleted their account lol
Good
i wish them misfortune, damn racists
Guys wake up. New subreddit just dropped.
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6:18 the meteor thing only comes if the dino game is disabled by your admin team at work or school. people in my class would turn off their internet to play the dino game, so they disabled it and that comes up if you try to play
Never actually seen anyone in Australia dress up as another human for Halloween. 17:07
Fair warning, 9:06 that map may have tons of misinformation as New Zealand does not jail people for not being religious. I’m fairly certain we have never jailed people for not being religious… so idk what map you’re looking at but it ain’t right :/
I guess it related to the blasphemy part of the map. Lots of countries still have those as relics from centuries ago and never removed them because they are rarely applied
It also looks like it pointed at Denmark, which I don't think we do.
@@riskyworks Denmark and New Zealand are definitely some of the last places I'd expect to be persecuted for that 😅
Yeah im from denmark and dont belive in god im not in jail i think the messurment comes from how many religous people there are since when you look at the source from that map it just says that it is mostly accepted
@@paigemosher8697 Or maybe I'm just living in a hyper realistic recreation of earth inside of the jail. (I'm obviously joking, I don't think that, besides I'm pretty sure that's way too big to fit inside of a jail)
With self-diagnosis, look at a more physical example: lactose intolerance. 2 people notice their stomach reacts terribly when eating certain dishes like chicken Alfredo or cheesecake. Both decide to keep a food diary for a bit and log what they eat and if they react. They notice the reactions correlate to when they eat dairy; they eat non-dairy alternatives of the same meals and they’re fine; they read up on different ways lactose intolerance affects their body; they talk to a lactose intolerant friend about how they’d get ill eating the similar foods and suggest variations that don’t cause reactions. I think we’d accept they are both lactose intolerant even if only 1 goes to a doctor about it and gets officially diagnosed.
People who recognise symptoms and test themselves on it and talk to others with the suspected trait can still be wrong, mind you, but they self diagnose with proper reason. People who have one bad experience with a milkshake do not and most of the time they know it.
This isn’t even taking in to account reasons people may choose to not professionally diagnose. Cost, lack of faith in professionals (previous experiences, being poc and/or afab, etc.), negative consequences of a disability diagnosis that are found in annoyingly many countries.
That’s an excellent analogy and you have a great point. 10/10 comment. Also, professionals don’t always agree on diagnoses. It’s very possible to go to a professional and be misdiagnosed.
Great analogy!
I am self diagnosed because I compare my behavior to my diagnosed brother, and the things he was explicitly told were symptoms. I share in most of them, if not as extremely as him. I don't get diagnosed because it's expensive, and though I could afford it, what do I get out of an official diagnosis? Nothing. Though it can have certain negative consequences. So why would I?
Getting a formal diagnosis is extremely cost-prohibitive. I self diagnosed autism because I was able to compare and contrast my own experiences growing up, what I go through now, the way I think and process information, and the social-related deficiencies I have. I've done the days of research to make sure I'm not pulling things out of my butt.
ive been on a diagnostic waiting list for autism for over a year now. every diagnosed person I meet just looks at me and go 'probably lol'
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I did talk to a doctor, he said that I was obviously not autistic because I had friends. He's the only doctor in the area, and my family's kind of too poor to go anywhere else. I think I'll just go to the many websites that my mother has given me just see if I might have a lot of symptoms that align with autistic traits.
Here’s another thing: sometimes doctors don’t know shit. They say things like “you can’t be autistic because you (insert thing that autistic people can do).”
Was it a medical doctor or a psychiatrist? Because a psychiatrist has a set list of things that determine what is autism. Have someone go with you who can insist you be given the ADI-R (Autism Diagnosis Interview - Revised). Doctors don't listen to female presenting patients, so if someone else is there to insist on it, they're more likely to listen to the other person.
You might find the RAADS-R test helpful. It's not an official diagnosis, but it's something
@@elaexplorer I'm not sure, but I do know that his job is to give neurodivergent people a diagnosis. The reason we thought that he'd be helpful was because he diagnosed my mom. But yeah, thanks
"you can't be autistic because you speak!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!"
About the /chonkers subreddit-- our family cat Sunbeam, is overweight. (He's a big cat in the first place, but definitely still overweight.) We call him chonky, love him to bits, BUT... we try to solve the problem because it's not good for his health. We give him diet food, separate him from our other cat, Luna, when they eat so he can eat said diet food, and try to get him to exercise. Regulating the weight of ANY living thing is hard, it can fluctuate and need to be changed, but letting your cat get that fat? That's animal abuse/neglect. Treat your animals better. Don't make them a spectacle.
only reason I self diagnose as autistic is because when I saw a doctor for diagnosis he told me he couldnt diagnose me only because there werent enough specifically childhood traits.
I exhibited most of the traits asked about *just after* the cutoff for when the dsm says it "counts"
Women with autism have a pretty much impossible time getting officially diagnosed; diagnosis costs thousands of dollars. People without formal diagnoses are not "faking it". That person 100% deserved to be removed for being an ass.
1:37 how have you not heard the clip of joe Biden saying “if you don’t vote for me, you ain’t black”?? That’s exactly what this is parodying!
Yeah parody of a misstatement years after it was clarified.... so funny..😑
yes Biden undeniably said that and the comic was parodied,but the reason it was posted in r/therightcantmeme because the artist (GPrime85) also makes a lot of uhh… extreme comics. Especially ones about being prosecuted just for voting republican. homophobic and transphobic remarks (most framing LGBT as child predators) and some even some comics that joke about harassing women. They are someone who radiates “liberals are snowflakes 😡” vibes
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Oh yeah that's right he actually used the N word
@@DrinkYourNailPolish That was a quote. 🤦♀️
You're literally assigning to him what he was discrediting as racist.
Don't you realize how stupid that makes you?
@@Alexa-Raine The image is from way back when Sleepy Joe said it.
I remember my wife asked on R/Ask women a question about a reputation surgeon for her upcoming boobjob revision as her original surgeon has since retired.
This has been a question asked in the past by other women on that subreddit.
She was told by the mods they cannot ask personal questions... She showed them the link to a previous post by such and they muted her and banned her from the subreddit.
Send someone to spam insults of the mods
As a shelter work, PLEASE ADOPT!! There are so many amazing babies out there that need a home and could be such amazing pets!!
Self diagnosing is okay on certain conditions
A) You must be clear that it's undiagnosed, B) Doctors aren't saying you don't have it, C) You have a legitimate reason to not get a diagnosis (Can't afford doctor, Family won't let you see a doctor, etc)
only trusting people who have a professional diagnosis is quite classist. some, dare i say most, people are in either a financial situation that doesn't allow for it, in a domestic situation that doesn't believe them and won't let them, in a country which is critically behind in mental health studies, or a combination of the above. there is also discrimination in the psychiatric field in basically all aspects - women are underdiagnosed, people of color, gay people, trans people, etc.
self diagnosers aren't invading anyone's space. the person who made that post is incredibly entitled for labeling their post about people faking mental disorders as a post about people who self diagnose.
trust me. if we could get a professional diagnosis, we would. and to get to hold it over our heads and use it to make us seem like liars or incompetents who know nothing about the severity of mental illnesses or the severity of the symptoms they experience is absurd.
Yup, a diagnosis would be nice but just getting tested is expensive + I worry whatever doctor I go to could be biased against me + there are too many downsides to a diagnosis that I don't feel safe or comfortable getting one even if I had the opportunity.
with my 11 years in the psychiatric system i kinda wish i was never diagnosed as autistic, as there is so much abelism from the "professionals" and they infantilise me as a 23y/o adult. they have used baby languge on me, when i had my care taker with me to appointments... i 100 percent supoort self-diagnosis after seeing how a free healthcare systems handels autistic people, the laws around it is way too loose which can make then discriminate against autistics because there are barely anyone listening to the autistics who has been treated badly by the system. i was kicked out of a home, an assisted living home in denmark, because i set bounderies that they tried to break time and time again. till a point where i was looking for a new place to live, and one day with a 2 week notice i was told you can no longer live here. i was homeless for 2 months because of that fuckery, so even with free healthcare a diagnosis hasnt helped me much...
Yeah, I left a homesteading/rabbitry reddit because I was called "hostile" for repeatedly saying "I don't mind if you want to line breed, I want no part of it."
1:30 robin wheezed so hard that a car lost control of the wheels
3:46 as someone lucky enough to be in a position of privilege to be diagnosed, this is super classist. diagnosis is expensive, not everyone can afford it. the criteria is very much based on white, rich, cishet boys from the ages 4-10. self diagnosis is valid under certain circumstances.
Listen, being an atheist in a hardcore evangelical family when you're underage might be a huge problem, but I'm confident that most of the people complaining about their lives as atheists have never experienced anything beyond someone being mean to them
The worst I’ve experienced as an atheist in the US is uncomfortable conversation with Mormons on university campus lmao and I live in the “Bible Belt”
At the moment, I'm self diagnosed/peer diagnosed with autism and getting an evaluation in November. I'm just trying to exist in a world that's wronged me because "I need to stop being weird to be liked". Bruh that doesn't explain every person being mean to me growing up and particularly quirks I have that align with the disorder.
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Relatable. My work psychologist (who's over 20 years as a master's psychologist) is pretty certain I'm of the Aspergers branch.
Can't get a clinical diagnosis yet, but I'm informed its a valid self-diagnosis.
Similarly I've managed to solve many of my own illnesses and conditions before my doctors have, and they love to say I'm wrong!
Self diagnosis for ADHD and Autism is valid and always will be...
The price for getting an actual diagnosis costs the same as a down payment on a used car and an overpriced shack in someone's backyard. Plus if you're AFAB trying to get a diagnosis, your symptoms will get completely dismissed and labeled as "Anxiety" or "weight problems".
I actually avoid mental health places because, despite being diagnosed with a neurological disorder, it doesn't affect me enough for me to see myself as part of these groups. I will leave it to the ones who actually have problems that need to be addressed.
14:46 Well, Reddit just announced they're basically gonna disband the whole coins system with no refunds, so I'm betting people are just throwing these awards at all kinds of dumb stuff.
2:25 The trouble is its not always as simple. I wrote to the local dog shelter and they said "We don't do that anymore we ship them out to other charities". Trouble is lots of charities has a very strict criteria, I understand the need for it, but they seemed to be only interested in retired people with big gardens, I wrote to several charities and never heard back.
Right. There's one in my town that I swear is just a dog hoarder. She brought several dogs to the Petco for adoption day. I don't remember why I was there but I stopped to pet a dog and during the 20 minute interaction, she spent most of it complaining about volunteers who came out to here place to take care of the animals and then told me about 5 dogs who live with her and slept in her bed that she had deemed unadoptable. And I'm wondering how they could be unadoptable when she had clearly adopted them. She never spoke once about getting animals adopted out.
Self diagnosis doesn't usually come after one google search. I had a friend in psychology tell me I should look into a diagnosis, did the research including reading the DSM-5, took professional online assessments, and realized that getting diagnosed would be incredibly dangerous to my living situation. NTM that my psych isn't doing evaluations rn.
On the "Self-diagnose" thing. I said to my dad once when I was 18 I thought I had depression, and he told me "Oh yeah you've been diagnosed with it since you were a kid" ... later on a friend told me that after being a dad of an autistic kid for 12 years, he thinks I have autism. I mentioned it and was told "You were tested for it" and nothing else ... I'm 30 and just recently was told "Oh yeah you were tested for it but it was determined to not be 'disruptive' to your life so nothing was ever done about it".
Like I definitely don't agree with people diagnosing themselves and running with it ... but if you ARE feeling like you check a lot of the boxes, see a professional. And PARENTS: IF your kid is diagnosed with something, don't just medicate them [if it's an option] and never tell them why. I had to learn at 18 my "Behavior" medication was to treat my depression ... I'd have never weened myself off of that had I known that, I weened myself off to prove to my parents I didn't need meds to behave. Because I was under the belief I was a bad misbehaving kid. And I had to go through nearly 30 years of my life without knowing that "hey autism might genuinely be the reason why you're weird about stuff but feel like you shouldn't be, you have a lot of noise and texture sensitivities and it's probably why you lack social skills other than the isolation from your depression causing you to misbehave" ... Your kids won't "milk" a diagnoses UNLESS YOU LET THEM. So refusing to tell kids about GENUINE PROBLEMS THEY HAVE BEEN PROFESSIONALLY DIAGNOSED WITH to "keep them from milking it" should be considered abuse.