About USB 4, yeah, I only have a USB A 2.0 keyboard/mouse hooked up to my PC, so I don't really see the point personally. In fact, when I upgraded to AM4 I was a bit surprised (I had forgotten to check) that the motherboard had no PS/2 port, so I lost N-key rollover on my mechanical keyboard which is a minor frustration, in some niche use cases I notice ghosting/dropped inputs from that. It was funny to see a lot of comments on that USB C only motherboard at computex saying "so where do I plug in my IBM model M" :) For file transfers between computers, I use scp/rsync, not detachable storage. That might just be a Linux user thing, but when you are moving from computer to USB storage, then from USB storage to another computer, you have to replug a bunch of things, and that is also 2 read/write cycles instead of 1 when you are copying straight over LAN, so even if the throughput is slower it will be similar speed and more convenient. Perhaps internet file transfer is not possible for your use cases though (such as moving from camera storage to scratch drive etc)
interesting post - USB I guess is very important for a lot of people, not so much for others. USB3 seems plenty fast for what I do..... not sure USB 4 is much faster or maybe im mixing that up with thunderbolt standards now
@@4thofjuly-fk4oq Don't get me wrong, I think there is plenty of room in the market for those standards. But higher bandwidth standards have much more expensive signal integrity chains and require higher layer PCB count motherboards. And with a lot of complaints (some justified, some not) about motherboard pricing, I think that it is justified to have boards that don't support those things for people who don't need it. The ASRock B650M HDV/M.2 is I think an example of that. Only 2 DIMM slots, because most people won't ever use all 4 and in fact having all slots occupied tends to reduce stability/lower bandwidth speeds, and the IO is not very fancy either, with only 1 USB C port, and it is selling extremely well.
Leo and Gordon are really just seeing everyone go through the same motions they did with CPUs in the 90s, and it's very funny to see how unimpressed they both are with the lace and frills. Performance is what matters, gimmicks aren't something they want to really waste time on.
The memory situation with the new motherboards should be interesting to see - hopefully they get that improved, always been a weakness for AMD compared to Intel
The Series 800 mobos seem to be the most exciting thing, if they have new upgraded parts to allow for faster memory and overclocking - Ryzen Master upgrades look good
Im wondering if we can just stick with our current boards for the new AMD CPU’s - or will it be worth buying new mobos, especially to get the upgraded memory speeds we want
Leo, the man - with two of the big tech youtube USA stars - very few good UK tech analysis now, apart from Kitguru and maybe one other channel which will remain nameless
I wish the manufactures keep making RAM separately from motherboard so as assembling and matching those is a very exciting process😊. It would be coul to see simile Intel's event.
Cant wait for the new AMD desktop processors, Kyle made one good contribution to the chat - laptops are basically just a series of compromises, agree completely
Existing motherboards for AMD wont likely be able to handle the higher level of memory, im pretty sure it will need the new boards to get stable high speeds
Now give me one of those for watching at 4AM on South America.
well done !
man you are keen, either that or you can't sleep !
hardcore man !
@@bobsmithson8592 Waking up at 4:30 AM just in time to catch this early.
4am. I’d be a mess next day
About USB 4, yeah, I only have a USB A 2.0 keyboard/mouse hooked up to my PC, so I don't really see the point personally. In fact, when I upgraded to AM4 I was a bit surprised (I had forgotten to check) that the motherboard had no PS/2 port, so I lost N-key rollover on my mechanical keyboard which is a minor frustration, in some niche use cases I notice ghosting/dropped inputs from that. It was funny to see a lot of comments on that USB C only motherboard at computex saying "so where do I plug in my IBM model M" :)
For file transfers between computers, I use scp/rsync, not detachable storage. That might just be a Linux user thing, but when you are moving from computer to USB storage, then from USB storage to another computer, you have to replug a bunch of things, and that is also 2 read/write cycles instead of 1 when you are copying straight over LAN, so even if the throughput is slower it will be similar speed and more convenient. Perhaps internet file transfer is not possible for your use cases though (such as moving from camera storage to scratch drive etc)
interesting post - USB I guess is very important for a lot of people, not so much for others. USB3 seems plenty fast for what I do..... not sure USB 4 is much faster or maybe im mixing that up with thunderbolt standards now
@@4thofjuly-fk4oq Don't get me wrong, I think there is plenty of room in the market for those standards. But higher bandwidth standards have much more expensive signal integrity chains and require higher layer PCB count motherboards. And with a lot of complaints (some justified, some not) about motherboard pricing, I think that it is justified to have boards that don't support those things for people who don't need it.
The ASRock B650M HDV/M.2 is I think an example of that. Only 2 DIMM slots, because most people won't ever use all 4 and in fact having all slots occupied tends to reduce stability/lower bandwidth speeds, and the IO is not very fancy either, with only 1 USB C port, and it is selling extremely well.
I use a Quest 3 and my problem is that most Mainboards don't support more then 7,5 or 15W.
Yeah that’s a problem.
Thanks for having us on Leo! It was great seeing you at the event 🙏
You too thanks for your time 🍻
Kyle cracks me up, such a funny guy to listen to and watch - nice to see Paul as well!
Paul and Kyle, two cool dudes I watch quite often, thanks Leo for interview, nice to see them in a relaxed state on video
All was very chilled. Nice to watch. No one was doing the big ego thing
I love Leo's hosting. Holy hell he is so f*cking funny
Leo and Gordon are really just seeing everyone go through the same motions they did with CPUs in the 90s, and it's very funny to see how unimpressed they both are with the lace and frills. Performance is what matters, gimmicks aren't something they want to really waste time on.
A lot of respect between the chaps - looking forward to the reviews
10:47 Pauls breakdown of AI was really good, pretty much what we all think
Yeah what do we use it for is my question. To replace people and lower staff costs !
Thanks Leo for bringing more laughter into our lives
Great relaxed chat, thanks guys!
three of my favs in one video - amazing !
Frames Win Games - Nvidia copyright in an AMD video, brilliant stuff Kyle !
Good, laid back chat with three people who clearly get on well
Excellent work and great chat.
Good coverage guys, thanks to Paul and Kyle for taking the time to stand with Leo, our favourite tech guy
Co Pilot + - yawns ! but Paul nailed it, shame about the lack of mom joke - should have done better there !
I like leo's style, he lets people talk and doesnt talk over them
AI - two words a lot of people know, but if you ask anyone are they using it for any good purpose, everyone looks at you like ‘ermmm’
Pauls hardware has been my favourite channel for a long time, loved this chat. nice to see paul doing more with people he respects
Glad you enjoyed it
@@KitGuruTech Welcome!
Kyle just admited to sleeping through the overclocking section, absolutely brilliant - just doesnt give a toss
Thanks Leo, Paul and Kyle - good fun !
Kyle and Paul - great guys, funny Kyle was asleep through parts of the presentation - clearly too many beers were taken the night before !!
Hey Leo, please plan to do more of these with paul, you and he seem great together
Good interview, Leo thanks for being the mediator!
Two nice chaps with Leo, the godfather of Tech
Paul is great, watch his shows all the time, nice relaxed style
Would like to get the chance to watch more interviews with other channels, you are very natural at the conversations
Did Paul really used to sell hardware? Had no idea - makes a lot of sense after watching a few of his videos and his knowledge and reporting
Two very good tech RUclipsrs ! Nicely handled Leo
Loved the chat, thanks guys!
No problems !
Leo's expertise really shined in this talk, great collab on Zen 5! 🚀
Glad you think so!
@@KitGuruTech Hmm!
Kyle gets on with Paul, good to know !
I loved how Kyle just utterly dismissed laptops in a few minutes, hilarious
Kyle - we needed some Lyle in this one to spice it up !
Hope to see you do more with Paul, that was brilliant
Shame we didn’t get Lyle in the video, that would have been hilarious !
Thanks Leo for the coverage so far, really good
No problem 👍
Thanks Leo, hope to see more of this coming soon
More to come!
@@KitGuruTech Will be waiting!
Paul and Kyle always bring the best tech discussions! Zen 5 sounds promising. 👍
Glad you liked it
@@KitGuruTech Welcome!
So much for Qualcomm making a break into the new low power sector - no talk about them at all.
Kyle was clearly still a bit drunk when this was taken, funny
USB 4 - interesting topic to bring up, havent really heard many people talking about it very often lately
The memory situation with the new motherboards should be interesting to see - hopefully they get that improved, always been a weakness for AMD compared to Intel
The Series 800 mobos seem to be the most exciting thing, if they have new upgraded parts to allow for faster memory and overclocking - Ryzen Master upgrades look good
Loved the deep dive into Zen 5, thanks for the insights, guys! 🔥
Our pleasure!
@@KitGuruTech Welcome!
I like all three of these guys. Honest, genuine and a brilliant sense of humor! Cheers guys
Kyle really looked like he needed some sleep !
Its bloody Leo with the guys I have watched for years. FN great. Leo is the shit. lol.
Thanks!
Ryzen master with 800 mobos and high end memory should be great to see
Really good chat chaps thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
I think im excited about it too, but I havent slept through any of this
Series 800 mobos sound good, looking forward to seeing how bandwidth helps AMD, if they get to similar clock levels as Intel on the high end boards
The motherboard situation with memory and overclocking was very on point from Paul
Im wondering if we can just stick with our current boards for the new AMD CPU’s - or will it be worth buying new mobos, especially to get the upgraded memory speeds we want
Kyle really looked spaced out, like he was suffering a massive hangover - AMD paying journos to get drunk? I am in the wrong trade !
Thanks. Good interview. Paul was great
Yes, hard to argue that
A leo interview - without a corrupt Company CEO on the spot - awesome !
Leo, the man - with two of the big tech youtube USA stars - very few good UK tech analysis now, apart from Kitguru and maybe one other channel which will remain nameless
Thanks !
Leo is my favourite KitGuruPerson
he will be pleased to hear that !
Zen5 Ryzen 3D parts, must be September October timeframe
I am quite excited about this launch in 2H, ive had it with Intel, already selling my current system before the arse falls out of it
I really liked this, good interview and funny too
I wish the manufactures keep making RAM separately from motherboard so as assembling and matching those is a very exciting process😊. It would be coul to see simile Intel's event.
Relaxed and funny while informative thanks guys 🎂
Our pleasure!
Cant wait to see these new AMD processors in action on new motherboards - the motherboards on paper are looking very very impressive
Best lads together.
Good chat thanks !
Glad you enjoyed it
Whether you are an AMD or Intel fan, I think everyone has to admit, the AMD launches in 2H look great.
USB 4 - forgot all about that. Paul was great in this video, very talkative. Kyle looked like he just woke up !
Not much on AI in this video - I love it ! thanks guys !
Waiting on this new AMD hardware - excited to see some reviews coming up soon
I love when Leo is with the other creators 🥰
he is a sociable chap
That new 16 core CPU is looking like the high end champ - by a long shot, Intel have nothing to compete
Cant wait for the new AMD desktop processors, Kyle made one good contribution to the chat - laptops are basically just a series of compromises, agree completely
Thanks Leo, Paul was excellent, put a lot of his thoughts onto camera as he always does, great narrative and thinking!
Thanks !
Existing motherboards for AMD wont likely be able to handle the higher level of memory, im pretty sure it will need the new boards to get stable high speeds
Great interview. Some interesting topics on ai discussed. Paul seems a cool guy
Would be nice if a bios update would allow for faster memory speeds. Really hope they do that.
I love how the tech guys on youtube all really are getting fed up with companies using the phrase AI all the time - still no benchmarks!
Maybe someday !
@@KitGuruTech Great!
Did Microsoft seriously recall a recall?!
Total recall
great discussion
At least with programs like Cinebench, they are benchmarks that use real world rendering code, AI? nothing really available yet
yes, true
@@KitGuruTech Hmmm!
This was a good time 🎉
Excellent, good fun and informative, im in agreement with Paul on the AI nonsense lately, if I see AI, I switch off completely now.
Most people are. 👍🏻
@@KitGuruTech 😇😇
Are these new AMD chips coming soon? the boards are september?
How on earth are they getting these transfer numbers in USB its amazing.
Laptops - Kyle nailed it really, useful for a specific job - but useless for everything else really
Paul seemed to be the only sober person there ! Leo trying to get Paul to crack mom jokes and Kyle was clearly in bed for maybe 2 hours. 😂
Enjoyed this talk, thank you
Thanks for watching
8:48 Oh, he had no idea :P
😉
AI should make things better for people, but no one knows what the heck its going to be used for
Great insight guys.
Strangely quiet period in components at the moment.
New hardware is coming soon. Will all change
Nice AMD invited all the best people to this one
Thanks 😎
Welcome!
Good laugh with good info. Great combo 👌🏻
Glad you enjoyed!
Glad I'm not the only one who is getting really tired of the over use of AI.
Good chat, nice way to pass 10 minutes
Glad you enjoyed it
800 series motherboards should hopefully push memory up a bit more, an area AMD lag behind
How about working on getting those graphics performance numbers up there with Nvidia?
Frames win games. Thats damn right!